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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2013 20:27 GMT
#1061
On January 17 2013 05:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
Bugs, how do you go from:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 01:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, let's go for it. I actually like Hopeless's thoughts in his last post and Lazer looks much better because he pointed out something that I noticed too; in Hopeless's last game he played somewhat similar to this.

slOosh, on the other hand, is still scum.

##unvote
##vote slOosh
to
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 04:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright.

I'm feeling lazy so let's just kill Hopeless. I don't think anything is going to happen in the near future to make either read stronger and so it's just best to consolidate our votes rather than continue to inflate the thread with further pointless back-and-forths.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der
In just a couple of hours? And Hopeless didn't even say a thing during this time. Just you talking with Hapa and him calling the thread bad for not wanting to lynch Hopeless.

@Hapa: did you read hopeless filter from LVIII?


Yes I did. However that's only one game out of the multitude of his recent town games in which he played very aggressively.

In addition, I can't rationalize his stance on iamp from a town perspective:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955&currentpage=52#1022

Votes Ruuch, afks for the entire night cycle, comes back and says he thinks iamperfection is town for no reasoning, then proceeds to make arguments against me based on the "assumption" of iamp being town.

Furthermore, he stated that he didn't understand my reasoning for voting Ruuch, which is incredibly scummy considering that he voted Ruuch himself.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2013 20:29 GMT
#1062
And for the love of god read the above before you consider voting anyone but Hopeless.



Nappy time. BB in a few hours.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 16 2013 20:30 GMT
#1063
On January 17 2013 05:26 jaybrundage wrote:
@LM what's your scum read for today. You haven't posted much on reads latly as you have been defending your self.

Do you still have me as a scum read. Also between Sloosh or WBG who do you think is scum.
Your still slight scummy to me but not lynch worthy I feel. Your posting has improved quite a bit as well so I'm cool with that for now.

I'm trying to determine who I want to vote out of WBG or SlOosh as I'm quite confident one of them is scum. More shall come when the time is right!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 16 2013 20:34 GMT
#1064
On January 17 2013 05:18 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game."

Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant.

So lets lynch SlOosh then he seems more likely to be scum then hopeless. Also it doesn't make sense for him to try to push hopeless if they are indeed scum. He could of easily put a vote on Lazermonkey instead for instance.

Sloosh has been wishy washy and hesitant to push his scum reads. The reasoning being that as scum he doesnt want to straight up push WBG unless he can get some support for it. He completly backs down from it.

Also Grush where the hell have you been. You have been lurky and scummy all game. You never posted reasons for your vote. And you show a disinterest in helping town. I would also be willing to lynch grush today over hopeless. It seemed that he dropped of peoples radar.


By the way, where do you stand on me right now? Still scum? You had your vote on me for the whole D1 but haven't talked much at all about me ever since. Now it looks like you're just going for Sloosh, grush or Hopeless. Not that I disagree with those players being scummy, but what caused this change of heart?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 16 2013 20:38 GMT
#1065
On January 17 2013 05:25 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:18 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game."

Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant.

So lets lynch SlOosh then he seems more likely to be scum then hopeless. Also it doesn't make sense for him to try to push hopeless if they are indeed scum. He could of easily put a vote on Lazermonkey instead for instance.

Sloosh has been wishy washy and hesitant to push his scum reads. The reasoning being that as scum he doesnt want to straight up push WBG unless he can get some support for it. He completly backs down from it.

Also Grush where the hell have you been. You have been lurky and scummy all game. You never posted reasons for your vote. And you show a disinterest in helping town. I would also be willing to lynch grush today over hopeless. It seemed that he dropped of peoples radar.

How is that a scummy thing, if I think hopeless has a better chance of flipping scum than him?

Your case on hopeless was basically. Not hard defending prom and gave to much reasoning on explaining his early vote on grush. Like really? But the thing about your WBG case is that you based some of it on his reaction to voting Hopeless. You didnt think he would vote hopeless because they were scum buddies. But he had absolutly no problem voting hopeless. Given his reaction do you still think WBG is scum.

Also what's your opinion on grush. Hes way scummier then hopeless and lurkes more too.

Also thrawn you seem to not be pushing your own scum reads. Going from LM who you seemed pretty convinced was scum last night (sheeping SS) To going from your initial vote on LM today to Sloosh. (sheeping WBG) Do you not feel confident in making your own reads?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 16 2013 20:42 GMT
#1066
On January 17 2013 05:34 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:18 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game."

Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant.

So lets lynch SlOosh then he seems more likely to be scum then hopeless. Also it doesn't make sense for him to try to push hopeless if they are indeed scum. He could of easily put a vote on Lazermonkey instead for instance.

Sloosh has been wishy washy and hesitant to push his scum reads. The reasoning being that as scum he doesnt want to straight up push WBG unless he can get some support for it. He completly backs down from it.

Also Grush where the hell have you been. You have been lurky and scummy all game. You never posted reasons for your vote. And you show a disinterest in helping town. I would also be willing to lynch grush today over hopeless. It seemed that he dropped of peoples radar.


By the way, where do you stand on me right now? Still scum? You had your vote on me for the whole D1 but haven't talked much at all about me ever since. Now it looks like you're just going for Sloosh, grush or Hopeless. Not that I disagree with those players being scummy, but what caused this change of heart?

I'm going for players I think are scum that can get lynched today. My read on you is null/slightly scummy. But there are people I think have a better chance to flip scum then you so i am pursuing my reads on them. Also I don't think we should lynch hopeless if sloosh is scum. I dont see hopeless flipping scum too.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 16 2013 20:45 GMT
#1067
@Hapa Do you think we have a scum between Sloosh and WBG. If so who and also why would they both be voting Hopeless?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 16 2013 20:47 GMT
#1068
On January 17 2013 05:42 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:34 Xatalos wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:18 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game."

Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant.

So lets lynch SlOosh then he seems more likely to be scum then hopeless. Also it doesn't make sense for him to try to push hopeless if they are indeed scum. He could of easily put a vote on Lazermonkey instead for instance.

Sloosh has been wishy washy and hesitant to push his scum reads. The reasoning being that as scum he doesnt want to straight up push WBG unless he can get some support for it. He completly backs down from it.

Also Grush where the hell have you been. You have been lurky and scummy all game. You never posted reasons for your vote. And you show a disinterest in helping town. I would also be willing to lynch grush today over hopeless. It seemed that he dropped of peoples radar.


By the way, where do you stand on me right now? Still scum? You had your vote on me for the whole D1 but haven't talked much at all about me ever since. Now it looks like you're just going for Sloosh, grush or Hopeless. Not that I disagree with those players being scummy, but what caused this change of heart?

I'm going for players I think are scum that can get lynched today. My read on you is null/slightly scummy. But there are people I think have a better chance to flip scum then you so i am pursuing my reads on them. Also I don't think we should lynch hopeless if sloosh is scum. I dont see hopeless flipping scum too.


Hmmm. Your recent posts have been townish so maybe you actually are town... What's your stance on WBG?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 16 2013 20:53 GMT
#1069
On January 17 2013 05:47 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:42 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:34 Xatalos wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:18 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game."

Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant.

So lets lynch SlOosh then he seems more likely to be scum then hopeless. Also it doesn't make sense for him to try to push hopeless if they are indeed scum. He could of easily put a vote on Lazermonkey instead for instance.

Sloosh has been wishy washy and hesitant to push his scum reads. The reasoning being that as scum he doesnt want to straight up push WBG unless he can get some support for it. He completly backs down from it.

Also Grush where the hell have you been. You have been lurky and scummy all game. You never posted reasons for your vote. And you show a disinterest in helping town. I would also be willing to lynch grush today over hopeless. It seemed that he dropped of peoples radar.


By the way, where do you stand on me right now? Still scum? You had your vote on me for the whole D1 but haven't talked much at all about me ever since. Now it looks like you're just going for Sloosh, grush or Hopeless. Not that I disagree with those players being scummy, but what caused this change of heart?

I'm going for players I think are scum that can get lynched today. My read on you is null/slightly scummy. But there are people I think have a better chance to flip scum then you so i am pursuing my reads on them. Also I don't think we should lynch hopeless if sloosh is scum. I dont see hopeless flipping scum too.


Hmmm. Your recent posts have been townish so maybe you actually are town... What's your stance on WBG?

WBG i think is town. Both Sloosh being scum and WBG being scum makes no damn sense.

Also as i said earlier scum WBG would have no need to defend me. He would just use me as early mislynch foder. Day 1 is always tricky for me. But i find i can pick up more steam as the game goes along.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 16 2013 20:58 GMT
#1070
On January 17 2013 05:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
Bugs, how do you go from:
On January 17 2013 01:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, let's go for it. I actually like Hopeless's thoughts in his last post and Lazer looks much better because he pointed out something that I noticed too; in Hopeless's last game he played somewhat similar to this.

slOosh, on the other hand, is still scum.

##unvote
##vote slOosh
to
On January 17 2013 04:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright.

I'm feeling lazy so let's just kill Hopeless. I don't think anything is going to happen in the near future to make either read stronger and so it's just best to consolidate our votes rather than continue to inflate the thread with further pointless back-and-forths.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der
In just a couple of hours? And Hopeless didn't even say a thing during this time. Just you talking with Hapa and him calling the thread bad for not wanting to lynch Hopeless.

@Hapa: did you read hopeless filter from LVIII?


Yes I did. However that's only one game out of the multitude of his recent town games in which he played very aggressively.

In addition, I can't rationalize his stance on iamp from a town perspective:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955&currentpage=52#1022

Votes Ruuch, afks for the entire night cycle, comes back and says he thinks iamperfection is town for no reasoning, then proceeds to make arguments against me based on the "assumption" of iamp being town.

Furthermore, he stated that he didn't understand my reasoning for voting Ruuch, which is incredibly scummy considering that he voted Ruuch himself.
Meeeh, I really think Hopeless should be defending himself, but since he seem to suck at that... I feel like alot of your points, maybe even all of them, could be explained by the fact that Hopeless is bad. And do you see any scum motivation in scum motivation in saying that a player is suspicious for voting the same person that you are voting yourself? This just seems retarded as both alignments. Also, Hopeless feels like he bases alot of his reads on OMGUS(whoever votes him, he votes etc)

Also, I don't exactly see that he went from vote ruush to Iamp is town without explaination as scummy. ruush was a policy lynch and nothing else, and Iamp is clearly looking better than ruush to say the least.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 16 2013 21:09 GMT
#1071
On January 17 2013 05:45 jaybrundage wrote:
@Hapa Do you think we have a scum between Sloosh and WBG. If so who and also why would they both be voting Hopeless?
Read his filter and you shall find the answer!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 16 2013 21:14 GMT
#1072
On January 17 2013 05:53 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:47 Xatalos wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:42 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:34 Xatalos wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:18 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game."

Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant.

So lets lynch SlOosh then he seems more likely to be scum then hopeless. Also it doesn't make sense for him to try to push hopeless if they are indeed scum. He could of easily put a vote on Lazermonkey instead for instance.

Sloosh has been wishy washy and hesitant to push his scum reads. The reasoning being that as scum he doesnt want to straight up push WBG unless he can get some support for it. He completly backs down from it.

Also Grush where the hell have you been. You have been lurky and scummy all game. You never posted reasons for your vote. And you show a disinterest in helping town. I would also be willing to lynch grush today over hopeless. It seemed that he dropped of peoples radar.


By the way, where do you stand on me right now? Still scum? You had your vote on me for the whole D1 but haven't talked much at all about me ever since. Now it looks like you're just going for Sloosh, grush or Hopeless. Not that I disagree with those players being scummy, but what caused this change of heart?

I'm going for players I think are scum that can get lynched today. My read on you is null/slightly scummy. But there are people I think have a better chance to flip scum then you so i am pursuing my reads on them. Also I don't think we should lynch hopeless if sloosh is scum. I dont see hopeless flipping scum too.


Hmmm. Your recent posts have been townish so maybe you actually are town... What's your stance on WBG?

WBG i think is town. Both Sloosh being scum and WBG being scum makes no damn sense.

Also as i said earlier scum WBG would have no need to defend me. He would just use me as early mislynch foder. Day 1 is always tricky for me. But i find i can pick up more steam as the game goes along.


Are you basing your townread of WBG on Sloosh flipping scum? What if Sloosh is town? Is WBG still town then? And it's not that unlikely for scum WBG to say something in your defense... Almost everyone seemed to think of you as just a lynchbait at the time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 16 2013 21:16 GMT
#1073
On January 17 2013 05:58 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:27 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
Bugs, how do you go from:
On January 17 2013 01:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, let's go for it. I actually like Hopeless's thoughts in his last post and Lazer looks much better because he pointed out something that I noticed too; in Hopeless's last game he played somewhat similar to this.

slOosh, on the other hand, is still scum.

##unvote
##vote slOosh
to
On January 17 2013 04:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright.

I'm feeling lazy so let's just kill Hopeless. I don't think anything is going to happen in the near future to make either read stronger and so it's just best to consolidate our votes rather than continue to inflate the thread with further pointless back-and-forths.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der
In just a couple of hours? And Hopeless didn't even say a thing during this time. Just you talking with Hapa and him calling the thread bad for not wanting to lynch Hopeless.

@Hapa: did you read hopeless filter from LVIII?


Yes I did. However that's only one game out of the multitude of his recent town games in which he played very aggressively.

In addition, I can't rationalize his stance on iamp from a town perspective:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955&currentpage=52#1022

Votes Ruuch, afks for the entire night cycle, comes back and says he thinks iamperfection is town for no reasoning, then proceeds to make arguments against me based on the "assumption" of iamp being town.

Furthermore, he stated that he didn't understand my reasoning for voting Ruuch, which is incredibly scummy considering that he voted Ruuch himself.
Meeeh, I really think Hopeless should be defending himself, but since he seem to suck at that... I feel like alot of your points, maybe even all of them, could be explained by the fact that Hopeless is bad. And do you see any scum motivation in scum motivation in saying that a player is suspicious for voting the same person that you are voting yourself? This just seems retarded as both alignments. Also, Hopeless feels like he bases alot of his reads on OMGUS(whoever votes him, he votes etc)

Also, I don't exactly see that he went from vote ruush to Iamp is town without explaination as scummy. ruush was a policy lynch and nothing else, and Iamp is clearly looking better than ruush to say the least.


You have some good points. Although this doesn't really explain his apathy and sheeping...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 16 2013 21:48 GMT
#1074
Sorry guys I know I've been afk but I can't help that.
If there's any consolation, i am town because of starsenses.

##Vote: Hopeless1dr
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 16 2013 21:48 GMT
#1075
And if you call me sheeping scum I made an attack on him early d1, but thats WIFOM and bad town play so :'(
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 21:51:57
January 16 2013 21:51 GMT
#1076
Votecount:

Hopeless1der (4): Hapahauli, slOosh, wherebugsgo, grush57
slOosh (3): jaybrundage, thrawn, MrZentor
Lazermonkey (1): Hopeless1der
wherebugsgo (1): Xatalos

Not voting (2): iamperfection, Lazermonkey

Currently, Hopeless is set to be lynched!
~26 hours until deadline.

A backwards poet writes inverse.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 16 2013 21:54 GMT
#1077
Nvm Ill go slooshie
##Unvote
##Vote: slOosh
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 16 2013 22:04 GMT
#1078
On January 17 2013 06:54 grush57 wrote:
Nvm Ill go slooshie
##Unvote
##Vote: slOosh
Lol grush...
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 16 2013 22:07 GMT
#1079
On January 17 2013 06:54 grush57 wrote:
Nvm Ill go slooshie
##Unvote
##Vote: slOosh

Are you really gonna vote no reasoning. No nothing. I think Sloosh is scum. Is this your bus attempt?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 16 2013 22:10 GMT
#1080
On January 17 2013 06:09 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:45 jaybrundage wrote:
@Hapa Do you think we have a scum between Sloosh and WBG. If so who and also why would they both be voting Hopeless?
Read his filter and you shall find the answer!

Yea musta missed that. But it still doesn't explain why scum sloosh would be voting scum hopeless. I only can see it as scum sloosh voting town hopeless
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