EPTHopeless1der (3): Hapahauli, slOosh, wherebugsgo
slOosh (6): jaybrundage, thrawn, MrZentor, grush57, iamperfection, Hopeless1der
wherebugsgo (1): Xatalos
Not voting (1): Lazermonkey
Currently, slOosh is set to be lynched!
~22.5 hours until deadline.
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Hopeless1der (3): Hapahauli, slOosh, wherebugsgo slOosh (6): jaybrundage, thrawn, MrZentor, grush57, iamperfection, Hopeless1der wherebugsgo (1): Xatalos Not voting (1): Lazermonkey Currently, slOosh is set to be lynched! ~22.5 hours until deadline. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9646 Posts
On January 17 2013 10:24 slOosh wrote: So I'll put you down as you think both of us are scum and don't have a preference. Everyone should state clearly what they think when they make the vote. Either X is scum and Y is scum too, Or X is town and Y is scum. With a polarized lynch such as this, even though it may in a mislynch it can garner valuable information for town and puts immense pressure on scum. you take my answer as acceptable? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 17 2013 10:29 slOosh wrote: You guys just gonna let hopeless skate by making a case on lazer and dropping it whenever he feels like it? He is gonna make it to lategame like that. Hopeless, in your own words, what about me is scummy? Or are you purely looking out for yourself and you don't care about my alignment? You're pressure on me when I was commenting on Zentor, and subsequently using it to paint me as scum is my primary motivator in calling you scum. I do not believe there was any sufficient action I could have taken to adequately steered Prom's lynch onto anyone else and you insisting I should have tried harder, when there are multiple players who fit that bill irks me. There's also the night interactions with wbg. I'm not dissecting that discussion. I think you look scummier than bugs and I think there is at least 1 scum between the two of you. That is enough for me at the moment. Ruuch afk's most of the day, shows up, drops a vote on Prom. Gives a meaningless post that is almost guaranteed to get him into trouble. We almost last-minute voteswitch him. He subsequently replaces out. I have a hard time believing that as scum, he would have both read the thread, allowing him to generate this post:+ Show Spoiler + On January 15 2013 08:52 Ruuch wrote: Alright, since I've been lurking for most of day 1 I thought I'd quickly chime in before the vote to shed some light on where I currently stand. (I'm on my phone/tablet/thingy so I'll have to keep this relatively concise, sorry) First things first; I do not currently have a strong opinion on who might be scum. In fact, from where I'm standing, it looks like most of you are so busy bickering amongst eachother in what I can only describe as a childish manner that I feel pretty much any one of you lot could be scum (hopefully that didn't come across as too judgmental or preachy, that was not my intent, honest!). Granted you could easily just chalk that down to my inexperience in the game. Now I know no one likes to listen to advice from a newbie but, in order to make my post remotely useful/constructive, hear me out. Scum like chaos and disorganization right? It's easy for them to hide in it and to further their own agenda. So try to keep your posts clear and to-the-point. Say what you have to say and don't engage in useless arguments. I guess that about covers it. Again, sorry if that came across as preachy or "holier-than-thou". ##Vote Promethelax and at the same time NOT have his team yelling at him OMG Y U SO LURKY? in the qt. I also WIFOM'd this post from you into you actually being town because I really wanted to know Ruuch's alignment when Prom flipped, with the potential that scum were just lolling all over the place: On January 16 2013 06:10 iamperfection wrote: Do you still mantain he is scum? If he was scum he would have had access to other players in order to coach him. If you look at his posts he is clearly lost and has no clue what he is doing. Ill have to go back to the vote swaping when I get home because I now know that people were jumping from town to town. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Well no, because I think this wagon on me is awful but seeing as no one is willing to actually discuss it more than a "this is my conclusion, I don't want to talk about my thought process", this is the best I can do. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On January 17 2013 10:38 Hopeless1der wrote: You're pressure on me when I was commenting on Zentor, and subsequently using it to paint me as scum is my primary motivator in calling you scum. I do not believe there was any sufficient action I could have taken to adequately steered Prom's lynch onto anyone else and you insisting I should have tried harder, when there are multiple players who fit that bill irks me. There's also the night interactions with wbg. I'm not dissecting that discussion. I think you look scummier than bugs and I think there is at least 1 scum between the two of you. That is enough for me at the moment. LOL, like you are busy doing anything else right now. Put your money where your mouth is. Name the actual players culpable, and why you complain that I call you out but have no problem not calling the other players out yourself. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 17 2013 11:09 slOosh wrote: LOL, like you are busy doing anything else right now. Put your money where your mouth is. Name the actual players culpable, and why you complain that I call you out but have no problem not calling the other players out yourself. I'm not trying to get them lynched. The specific players are irrelevant, their existence is what matters here. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 17 2013 10:26 slOosh wrote: jay, you haven't objectively commented on hopeless. Right now you have him as town because you think I'm scum. That won't do. What about his posts show that he is town? Independent of you being scum voting for hopeless. I have a null tell/leaning townieon Hopeless. He has done some scummy things earlier on. However I think more recent his posting has improved like his reasoning for voting for Ruuch when he thought he might be town does make sense. It shows reasoning and his thought process. SlOosh In the small possibility that you are town. If you could give your reads on everyone and your other scum reads as well, I know that you think Hopeless and WBG are scum is there a third party that appeals to you? We have a whole day left. The more people post and be transparent the better of a chance town has towards winning. On January 17 2013 10:26 Hopeless1der wrote: I asked the questions in that manner because my reasons were completely different than Hapa's. I was doing what little I could to save Prom, short of blowing up at the thread and calling everyone stupid, which seems to be the go-to response these days. Hapa on the other hand has been touting his scum-Prom read and all of the sudden feels its a good idea to go after Ruuch as a policy lynch. I won't deny it was a stupid wagon, but I felt it was a better to lose him than Prom. I didn't read Ruuch as scum, I read him as expendable, in comparison to Prom. Hapa trying to equate our votes as being equally scummy: + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2013 05:27 Hapahauli wrote: Yes I did. However that's only one game out of the multitude of his recent town games in which he played very aggressively. In addition, I can't rationalize his stance on iamp from a town perspective: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=52#1022 Votes Ruuch, afks for the entire night cycle, comes back and says he thinks iamperfection is town for no reasoning, then proceeds to make arguments against me based on the "assumption" of iamp being town. Furthermore, he stated that he didn't understand my reasoning for voting Ruuch, which is incredibly scummy considering that he voted Ruuch himself. is a massive load of bull. I appreciate your efforts to put words in my mouth, like my "implied" super strong town read of Prom, while simultaneously disregarding Question the First. Furthermore, the "assume you're town" was specifically TO iamperfection because he asked me to explain myself. Are you going to jump down his throat for this post?: Or does he get a free pass because he was speaking about himself? Anyways, it seems I need to look towards self-preservation ##Unvote: Lazermonkey ##Vote: SlOosh Primarily based on Ruuch's limited interactions with the thread. @Hapa given what Hopeless said. Why did you vote for Ruunch? If you thought Prom was scum? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9646 Posts
sloosh is calling out bullshit from hopeless hopeless is doing nothing but throwing vague suspicion with no purpose ## unvote ##vote hopeless | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 17 2013 11:19 iamperfection wrote: i like hopeless less now and sloosh more sloosh is calling out bullshit from hopeless hopeless is doing nothing but throwing vague suspicion with no purpose ## unvote ##vote hopeless What was vague and why does it serve no purpose? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9646 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 17 2013 11:25 iamperfection wrote: why would you ever not want to be clear with who you think is scum? i could see town reads but scum? Sloosh, LM, Hapa | ||
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iamperfection
United States9646 Posts
why is hapa scum? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9646 Posts
On January 17 2013 11:29 Hopeless1der wrote: Pushing me despite acknowledging more recent examples of my current play being indicative of me being town, claming our votes on Ruuch being equally scummy, when they are quite clearly not and again, on the assumption that you are town, his voteswitch looks terrible. Why jumping from town to town is scummy? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9646 Posts
On January 17 2013 11:55 Hopeless1der wrote: Because he had a scumread on prom and dropped it for no good reason. its kind of hard to say hapa is scum one of the few guys that put all his thoughts out there and pushes his lynches. He is also the only guy that reported a roleblock. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9646 Posts
On January 15 2013 09:07 Hapahauli wrote: Welp. Sorry prome =/ Ruuch, you need to tell us why that was not a scumclaim. When i was reading the thread i thought it was pretty clear that Ruuch was a super noob town and now hapa is going herp derp scum claim. Usally when hapa is town despite the tunnely aspect of his play he is open to other possibilities and very self aware of confirmation bias he may have. i'll have to sleep on this but for now ## unvote | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
It doesn't matter what their appearance was before that, because a lurker who has never played before can either be town OR scum. They are only more likely to be town by virtue of chance. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9646 Posts
On January 17 2013 12:41 wherebugsgo wrote: man when someone votes 2 minutes before the deadline the proper thing to do is POLICY LYNCH THEM. It doesn't matter what their appearance was before that, because a lurker who has never played before can either be town OR scum. They are only more likely to be town by virtue of chance. yeah no if your read his posts he was completely lost. he would have had access to help if he was scum | ||
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