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On January 17 2013 04:27 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 03:49 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 03:31 Xatalos wrote:On January 17 2013 03:26 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 03:17 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 17 2013 03:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Apparently no one does any thinking either, if we're going to lynch someone over Hopeless today. I'd agree with that too, given that both thrawn and zentor simply swapped their votes over to slOosh as soon as I did. I think both slOosh and Hopeless are good lynches for today. If they are both scum, and it's certainly possible, who does that leave us with for a third scum? Grush? If one of them is not? My first concern is seeing Hopeless hang, and then we'll find the rest. SloOsh could be scum based on how he handled himself last night (flinging shit at you, willingness to compromise on Hopeless), but I'm not convinced. As for a 3rd, I have no idea. I was originally thinking Lazer, but given how hard Hopeless decided to push him, I don't think that's realistic. Aren't you in the slightest suspicious of either WBG or Jay? Seriously, why? See the above post + my night-post for more info. What do you think about my case on Hopeless? So WBG gets a pass for being active? Did you even read my case? Where do you see him being "concerned" really? He was pretty unbelievably indifferent about the D1 lynch, and now he's open to several different lynches depending on how the thread goes... I think the case on Hopeless is decent, but most of those points - indifference about the lynch, weak attitude to pushing scumreads, flinging suspicion at people without pushing them - apply to WBG as well (especially during D1). Actually even MrZentor has done similar stuff - and he's most likely town. I do think that Hopeless has done scummy things but he's not our best lynch.
Congratulations, you just proved that indifference and uncertainty is not always scum indicative.
Now please pay attention to the thread and take off your fucking confirmation bias goggles.
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Three scum? Where does it say that?
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On January 17 2013 04:33 slOosh wrote:
Three scum? Where does it say that?
It's a C9++ setup. There are almost always 3 scum in C9++
Have you ever seen a 13 player game with a number other than 3 scum?
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On January 17 2013 04:33 slOosh wrote:
Three scum? Where does it say that?
nice attempt at acting dumb.
Man, your effort as scum really needs to be better.
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On January 17 2013 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:It's a C9++ setup. There are almost always 3 scum in C9++ Have you ever seen a 13 player game with a number other than 3 scum?
Yea my first game ever, hosted by Qatol and dreamflower.
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On January 17 2013 04:40 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 04:33 slOosh wrote:
Three scum? Where does it say that? It's a C9++ setup. There are almost always 3 scum in C9++ Have you ever seen a 13 player game with a number other than 3 scum? Yea my first game ever, hosted by Qatol and dreamflower.
Seriously? Geez that's imbalanced as fuck.
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On January 17 2013 04:44 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 04:40 slOosh wrote:On January 17 2013 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 04:33 slOosh wrote:
Three scum? Where does it say that? It's a C9++ setup. There are almost always 3 scum in C9++ Have you ever seen a 13 player game with a number other than 3 scum? Yea my first game ever, hosted by Qatol and dreamflower. Seriously? Geez that's imbalanced as fuck.
Less town roles
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My point is that trying to figure out the whole scum team when we don't even have concrete OP information on the number of scum is a futile exercise, of which more harm will come than good.
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On January 17 2013 04:45 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 04:44 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 04:40 slOosh wrote:On January 17 2013 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 04:33 slOosh wrote:
Three scum? Where does it say that? It's a C9++ setup. There are almost always 3 scum in C9++ Have you ever seen a 13 player game with a number other than 3 scum? Yea my first game ever, hosted by Qatol and dreamflower. Seriously? Geez that's imbalanced as fuck. Less town roles
It was 9v4, more town roles.
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On January 17 2013 04:47 slOosh wrote:
My point is that trying to figure out the whole scum team when we don't even have concrete OP information on the number of scum is a futile exercise, of which more harm will come than good.
Oh I thought you were subtly implying people who are assuming 3 scum are scum.
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On January 17 2013 04:51 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 04:47 slOosh wrote:
My point is that trying to figure out the whole scum team when we don't even have concrete OP information on the number of scum is a futile exercise, of which more harm will come than good. Oh I thought you were subtly implying people who are assuming 3 scum are scum.
It's a reasonable enough assumption that town could make, but not definite enough to be making team guesses, either through interactions that haven't flipped or process of elimination of town reads (if there are 4 scum and you assume 3, then one gets excused as "most town of them"), and it justs spread more suspicions / distractions, even though today's lynch hasn't been properly consolidated.
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On January 17 2013 04:30 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 04:27 Xatalos wrote:On January 17 2013 03:49 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 03:31 Xatalos wrote:On January 17 2013 03:26 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 03:17 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 17 2013 03:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Apparently no one does any thinking either, if we're going to lynch someone over Hopeless today. I'd agree with that too, given that both thrawn and zentor simply swapped their votes over to slOosh as soon as I did. I think both slOosh and Hopeless are good lynches for today. If they are both scum, and it's certainly possible, who does that leave us with for a third scum? Grush? If one of them is not? My first concern is seeing Hopeless hang, and then we'll find the rest. SloOsh could be scum based on how he handled himself last night (flinging shit at you, willingness to compromise on Hopeless), but I'm not convinced. As for a 3rd, I have no idea. I was originally thinking Lazer, but given how hard Hopeless decided to push him, I don't think that's realistic. Aren't you in the slightest suspicious of either WBG or Jay? Seriously, why? See the above post + my night-post for more info. What do you think about my case on Hopeless? So WBG gets a pass for being active? Did you even read my case? Where do you see him being "concerned" really? He was pretty unbelievably indifferent about the D1 lynch, and now he's open to several different lynches depending on how the thread goes... I think the case on Hopeless is decent, but most of those points - indifference about the lynch, weak attitude to pushing scumreads, flinging suspicion at people without pushing them - apply to WBG as well (especially during D1). Actually even MrZentor has done similar stuff - and he's most likely town. I do think that Hopeless has done scummy things but he's not our best lynch. Congratulations, you just proved that indifference and uncertainty is not always scum indicative. Now please pay attention to the thread and take off your fucking confirmation bias goggles.
Not always, but more often than not. Why would town be indifferent towards their win condition (lynching scum)? Scum, on the other hand, would be playing towards their win condition by leaving their options open. MrZentor is a special case and doesn't count. You have no such excuse.
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On January 17 2013 04:47 slOosh wrote:
My point is that trying to figure out the whole scum team when we don't even have concrete OP information on the number of scum is a futile exercise, of which more harm will come than good.
Agreed.
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if there are 4 scum then how is that a bad assumption?
You kill 3 and then the game's not over, clearly there's someone left to kill. What a stupid argument, slOosh is just saying this to throw dirt on legitimate and well-reasoned assumptions on the setup. Indeed, he has nothing else to say, because he's scum.
On January 17 2013 05:03 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 04:30 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 17 2013 04:27 Xatalos wrote:On January 17 2013 03:49 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 03:31 Xatalos wrote:On January 17 2013 03:26 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 03:17 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 17 2013 03:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Apparently no one does any thinking either, if we're going to lynch someone over Hopeless today. I'd agree with that too, given that both thrawn and zentor simply swapped their votes over to slOosh as soon as I did. I think both slOosh and Hopeless are good lynches for today. If they are both scum, and it's certainly possible, who does that leave us with for a third scum? Grush? If one of them is not? My first concern is seeing Hopeless hang, and then we'll find the rest. SloOsh could be scum based on how he handled himself last night (flinging shit at you, willingness to compromise on Hopeless), but I'm not convinced. As for a 3rd, I have no idea. I was originally thinking Lazer, but given how hard Hopeless decided to push him, I don't think that's realistic. Aren't you in the slightest suspicious of either WBG or Jay? Seriously, why? See the above post + my night-post for more info. What do you think about my case on Hopeless? So WBG gets a pass for being active? Did you even read my case? Where do you see him being "concerned" really? He was pretty unbelievably indifferent about the D1 lynch, and now he's open to several different lynches depending on how the thread goes... I think the case on Hopeless is decent, but most of those points - indifference about the lynch, weak attitude to pushing scumreads, flinging suspicion at people without pushing them - apply to WBG as well (especially during D1). Actually even MrZentor has done similar stuff - and he's most likely town. I do think that Hopeless has done scummy things but he's not our best lynch. Congratulations, you just proved that indifference and uncertainty is not always scum indicative. Now please pay attention to the thread and take off your fucking confirmation bias goggles. Not always, but more often than not. Why would town be indifferent towards their win condition (lynching scum)? Scum, on the other hand, would be playing towards their win condition by leaving their options open. MrZentor is a special case and doesn't count. You have no such excuse.
lol wut
I'm not indifferent to lynching scum, I'm indifferent to having to talk repeatedly to people like you.
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slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game."
Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant.
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Bugs, how do you go from:On January 17 2013 01:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, let's go for it. I actually like Hopeless's thoughts in his last post and Lazer looks much better because he pointed out something that I noticed too; in Hopeless's last game he played somewhat similar to this.
slOosh, on the other hand, is still scum.
##unvote
##vote slOosh toOn January 17 2013 04:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright.
I'm feeling lazy so let's just kill Hopeless. I don't think anything is going to happen in the near future to make either read stronger and so it's just best to consolidate our votes rather than continue to inflate the thread with further pointless back-and-forths.
##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der In just a couple of hours? And Hopeless didn't even say a thing during this time. Just you talking with Hapa and him calling the thread bad for not wanting to lynch Hopeless.
@Hapa: did you read hopeless filter from LVIII?
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On January 17 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game."
Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant.
So lets lynch SlOosh then he seems more likely to be scum then hopeless. Also it doesn't make sense for him to try to push hopeless if they are indeed scum. He could of easily put a vote on Lazermonkey instead for instance.
Sloosh has been wishy washy and hesitant to push his scum reads. The reasoning being that as scum he doesnt want to straight up push WBG unless he can get some support for it. He completly backs down from it.
Also Grush where the hell have you been. You have been lurky and scummy all game. You never posted reasons for your vote. And you show a disinterest in helping town. I would also be willing to lynch grush today over hopeless. It seemed that he dropped of peoples radar.
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On January 17 2013 05:06 wherebugsgo wrote:if there are 4 scum then how is that a bad assumption? You kill 3 and then the game's not over, clearly there's someone left to kill. What a stupid argument, slOosh is just saying this to throw dirt on legitimate and well-reasoned assumptions on the setup. Indeed, he has nothing else to say, because he's scum. Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 05:03 Xatalos wrote:On January 17 2013 04:30 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 17 2013 04:27 Xatalos wrote:On January 17 2013 03:49 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 03:31 Xatalos wrote:On January 17 2013 03:26 Hapahauli wrote:On January 17 2013 03:17 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 17 2013 03:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Apparently no one does any thinking either, if we're going to lynch someone over Hopeless today. I'd agree with that too, given that both thrawn and zentor simply swapped their votes over to slOosh as soon as I did. I think both slOosh and Hopeless are good lynches for today. If they are both scum, and it's certainly possible, who does that leave us with for a third scum? Grush? If one of them is not? My first concern is seeing Hopeless hang, and then we'll find the rest. SloOsh could be scum based on how he handled himself last night (flinging shit at you, willingness to compromise on Hopeless), but I'm not convinced. As for a 3rd, I have no idea. I was originally thinking Lazer, but given how hard Hopeless decided to push him, I don't think that's realistic. Aren't you in the slightest suspicious of either WBG or Jay? Seriously, why? See the above post + my night-post for more info. What do you think about my case on Hopeless? So WBG gets a pass for being active? Did you even read my case? Where do you see him being "concerned" really? He was pretty unbelievably indifferent about the D1 lynch, and now he's open to several different lynches depending on how the thread goes... I think the case on Hopeless is decent, but most of those points - indifference about the lynch, weak attitude to pushing scumreads, flinging suspicion at people without pushing them - apply to WBG as well (especially during D1). Actually even MrZentor has done similar stuff - and he's most likely town. I do think that Hopeless has done scummy things but he's not our best lynch. Congratulations, you just proved that indifference and uncertainty is not always scum indicative. Now please pay attention to the thread and take off your fucking confirmation bias goggles. Not always, but more often than not. Why would town be indifferent towards their win condition (lynching scum)? Scum, on the other hand, would be playing towards their win condition by leaving their options open. MrZentor is a special case and doesn't count. You have no such excuse. lol wut I'm not indifferent to lynching scum, I'm indifferent to having to talk repeatedly to people like you.
If you're not indifferent, how do you explain your constant sheeping of the thread and switching your votes for the pettiest of reasons?
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On January 17 2013 05:18 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game."
Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant. So lets lynch SlOosh then he seems more likely to be scum then hopeless. Also it doesn't make sense for him to try to push hopeless if they are indeed scum. He could of easily put a vote on Lazermonkey instead for instance. Sloosh has been wishy washy and hesitant to push his scum reads. The reasoning being that as scum he doesnt want to straight up push WBG unless he can get some support for it. He completly backs down from it. Also Grush where the hell have you been. You have been lurky and scummy all game. You never posted reasons for your vote. And you show a disinterest in helping town. I would also be willing to lynch grush today over hopeless. It seemed that he dropped of peoples radar.
How is that a scummy thing, if I think hopeless has a better chance of flipping scum than him?
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@LM what's your scum read for today. You haven't posted much on reads latly as you have been defending your self.
Do you still have me as a scum read. Also between Sloosh or WBG who do you think is scum.
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