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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 13 2013 18:00 GMT
#761
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad

but I had no idea

great job dandel =(
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 13 2013 18:01 GMT
#762
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


Even when siding with mesic?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 13 2013 18:01 GMT
#763
On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad

but I had no idea

great job dandel =(

If you read the OP, you could also have
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 18:02:48
January 13 2013 18:02 GMT
#764
On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent.

You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...).

I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win.
I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles.


The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out.

On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad

but I had no idea

great job dandel =(

If you read the OP, you could also have


Play nice!
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 13 2013 18:03 GMT
#765
I'm always nice
A backwards poet writes inverse.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 18:05:45
January 13 2013 18:03 GMT
#766
On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad

but I had no idea

great job dandel =(

If you read the OP, you could also have


no man I wasn't expecting anyone to believe my claim. You'd just troll back. And Toad already knew I was medic so he'd shoot me anyway since I can't protect myself

I DID read the OP again and again but I reread on every role and asked Palmar tons of questions about the roles and rules BUT I totally missed out the yak

FML
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 13 2013 18:04 GMT
#767
On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent.

You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...).

I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win.
I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles.


The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out.

Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad

but I had no idea

great job dandel =(

If you read the OP, you could also have


Play nice!


same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town.
I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms...

Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 13 2013 18:05 GMT
#768
Oh and sorry for asking for a draw Plamar, that's when I thought gonzaw was the scum and he just didn't do anything to troll us.

Which might actually be a decent strategy too, wait for shrink/medic to suicide on the PGO, lol.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 18:07:33
January 13 2013 18:06 GMT
#769
I don't know about you all but I really prefer this game, rather than having to post long ass cases and getting pressured publicly.

This is so much more trolly and fun and relaxing
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 13 2013 18:07 GMT
#770
On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent.

You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...).

I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win.
I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles.


The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out.

On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad

but I had no idea

great job dandel =(

If you read the OP, you could also have


Play nice!


same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town.
I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms...

Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much.


No, there is no risk to lynch. We literally cannot lynch scum with 6 people. Maybe everyone figures everything out, including you, but you are the only one who knows what your night actions are. With infinite amount of time you will eventually make the right choice.

Yeah it's a bit theoretical but at the very least there can be no lynch on day 1 if everyone plays proper.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 13 2013 18:08 GMT
#771
I actually pm'ed palmar and told him to force the NL in time because there's no way for anyone to be lynched with 5 people alive and
2 of them voting the mafia
1 of them voting the jester
1 of them voting the lynchers target
1 of them voting NL

...
almost got as cocky as to tell him to endgame the game if I managed to not shoot the lynchers target :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 13 2013 18:08 GMT
#772
Oh btw jiex when you asked about a scum qt I had to guess if palmar made one or not, lol. I guessed right.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 13 2013 18:09 GMT
#773
On January 14 2013 03:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent.

You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...).

I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win.
I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles.


The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out.

On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad

but I had no idea

great job dandel =(

If you read the OP, you could also have


Play nice!


same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town.
I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms...

Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much.


No, there is no risk to lynch. We literally cannot lynch scum with 6 people. Maybe everyone figures everything out, including you, but you are the only one who knows what your night actions are. With infinite amount of time you will eventually make the right choice.

Yeah it's a bit theoretical but at the very least there can be no lynch on day 1 if everyone plays proper.

You literally could not have lynched Jester or mafia this cycle either, yet it happened.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 13 2013 18:10 GMT
#774
On January 14 2013 03:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent.

You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...).

I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win.
I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles.


The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out.

On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad

but I had no idea

great job dandel =(

If you read the OP, you could also have


Play nice!


same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town.
I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms...

Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much.


No, there is no risk to lynch. We literally cannot lynch scum with 6 people. Maybe everyone figures everything out, including you, but you are the only one who knows what your night actions are. With infinite amount of time you will eventually make the right choice.

Yeah it's a bit theoretical but at the very least there can be no lynch on day 1 if everyone plays proper.

You literally could not have lynched Jester or mafia this cycle either, yet it happened.


No, there is a distinct difference. Especially since I claimed to have turned into a vt.
Town needs a majority or they cannot lynch scum, if they cannot lynch scum they should no lynch and BECAUSE TOWN HAS HALF THE VOTES, THERE CANNOT BE A LYNCH.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 13 2013 18:11 GMT
#775
There is nothing anyone can say or do to make a lynch happen day 1 unless people are mentally ill.
My claim this cycle however was believable which made the townies think they could lynch scum, unfortunately they went for iamp but wcyd
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 13 2013 18:14 GMT
#776
On January 14 2013 03:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:09 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent.

You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...).

I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win.
I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles.


The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out.

On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad

but I had no idea

great job dandel =(

If you read the OP, you could also have


Play nice!


same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town.
I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms...

Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much.


No, there is no risk to lynch. We literally cannot lynch scum with 6 people. Maybe everyone figures everything out, including you, but you are the only one who knows what your night actions are. With infinite amount of time you will eventually make the right choice.

Yeah it's a bit theoretical but at the very least there can be no lynch on day 1 if everyone plays proper.

You literally could not have lynched Jester or mafia this cycle either, yet it happened.


No, there is a distinct difference. Especially since I claimed to have turned into a vt.
Town needs a majority or they cannot lynch scum, if they cannot lynch scum they should no lynch and BECAUSE TOWN HAS HALF THE VOTES, THERE CANNOT BE A LYNCH.

the difference is that town thought you're a townie and thought it's possible to lynch mafia this cycle, which was not true?
Same could happen with the lyncher thinking someone is town REALLY strongly d1 and therefore giving into lynching the mafia.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 13 2013 18:16 GMT
#777
it's instant majority, anything can happen with different timezones
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 18:16:47
January 13 2013 18:16 GMT
#778
On January 14 2013 03:14 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:09 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent.

You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...).

I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win.
I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles.


The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out.

On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game?

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.


If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad

but I had no idea

great job dandel =(

If you read the OP, you could also have


Play nice!


same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town.
I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms...

Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much.


No, there is no risk to lynch. We literally cannot lynch scum with 6 people. Maybe everyone figures everything out, including you, but you are the only one who knows what your night actions are. With infinite amount of time you will eventually make the right choice.

Yeah it's a bit theoretical but at the very least there can be no lynch on day 1 if everyone plays proper.

You literally could not have lynched Jester or mafia this cycle either, yet it happened.


No, there is a distinct difference. Especially since I claimed to have turned into a vt.
Town needs a majority or they cannot lynch scum, if they cannot lynch scum they should no lynch and BECAUSE TOWN HAS HALF THE VOTES, THERE CANNOT BE A LYNCH.

the difference is that town thought you're a townie and thought it's possible to lynch mafia this cycle, which was not true?
Same could happen with the lyncher thinking someone is town REALLY strongly d1 and therefore giving into lynching the mafia.


Why would a lyncher lynch town that is not his target? It just makes it harder for the lyncher to lynch his target down the road.
Even if the lyncher wanted this somehow, why would any townie vote for anyone KNOWING that they cant lynch scum.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 18:21:35
January 13 2013 18:17 GMT
#779
On January 14 2013 03:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
There is nothing anyone can say or do to make a lynch happen day 1 unless people are mentally ill.
My claim this cycle however was believable which made the townies think they could lynch scum, unfortunately they went for iamp but wcyd


If they had went for toad you'd have lost too right?

Neither Dandel, nor you nor gonzaw would have been lynched.

You'll lose either way. I don't get you. Why did you claim
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#780
On January 14 2013 03:17 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
There is nothing anyone can say or do to make a lynch happen day 1 unless people are mentally ill.
My claim this cycle however was believable which made the townies think they could lynch scum, unfortunately they went for iamp but wcyd


If they had went for toad you'd have lost right?

Then why did you claim


Because if we had a no-lynch then I die either straight away, or a cycle later.
This was the ONLY point where town had a majority (if I were telling the truth), unless toad somehow kills iamp, in which case I still would have lost had they lynched toad.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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