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On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily.
If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad
but I had no idea
great job dandel =(
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On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily.
Even when siding with mesic?
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On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily. If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad but I had no idea great job dandel =(
If you read the OP, you could also have 
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On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent. You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...). I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win. I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles.
The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out.
On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily. If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad but I had no idea great job dandel =( If you read the OP, you could also have
Play nice!
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On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily. If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad but I had no idea great job dandel =( If you read the OP, you could also have
no man I wasn't expecting anyone to believe my claim. You'd just troll back. And Toad already knew I was medic so he'd shoot me anyway since I can't protect myself
I DID read the OP again and again but I reread on every role and asked Palmar tons of questions about the roles and rules BUT I totally missed out the yak
FML
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On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent. You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...). I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win. I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles. The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out. Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily. If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad but I had no idea great job dandel =( If you read the OP, you could also have Play nice!
same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town.
I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms...
Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much.
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Oh and sorry for asking for a draw Plamar, that's when I thought gonzaw was the scum and he just didn't do anything to troll us.
Which might actually be a decent strategy too, wait for shrink/medic to suicide on the PGO, lol.
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I don't know about you all but I really prefer this game, rather than having to post long ass cases and getting pressured publicly.
This is so much more trolly and fun and relaxing
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On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent. You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...). I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win. I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles. The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out. On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily. If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad but I had no idea great job dandel =( If you read the OP, you could also have Play nice! same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town. I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms... Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much.
No, there is no risk to lynch. We literally cannot lynch scum with 6 people. Maybe everyone figures everything out, including you, but you are the only one who knows what your night actions are. With infinite amount of time you will eventually make the right choice.
Yeah it's a bit theoretical but at the very least there can be no lynch on day 1 if everyone plays proper.
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I actually pm'ed palmar and told him to force the NL in time because there's no way for anyone to be lynched with 5 people alive and
2 of them voting the mafia
1 of them voting the jester
1 of them voting the lynchers target
1 of them voting NL
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almost got as cocky as to tell him to endgame the game if I managed to not shoot the lynchers target :p
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Oh btw jiex when you asked about a scum qt I had to guess if palmar made one or not, lol. I guessed right.
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On January 14 2013 03:07 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent. You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...). I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win. I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles. The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out. On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily. If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad but I had no idea great job dandel =( If you read the OP, you could also have Play nice! same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town. I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms... Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much. No, there is no risk to lynch. We literally cannot lynch scum with 6 people. Maybe everyone figures everything out, including you, but you are the only one who knows what your night actions are. With infinite amount of time you will eventually make the right choice. Yeah it's a bit theoretical but at the very least there can be no lynch on day 1 if everyone plays proper.
You literally could not have lynched Jester or mafia this cycle either, yet it happened.
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On January 14 2013 03:09 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:07 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent. You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...). I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win. I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles. The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out. On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily. If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad but I had no idea great job dandel =( If you read the OP, you could also have Play nice! same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town. I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms... Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much. No, there is no risk to lynch. We literally cannot lynch scum with 6 people. Maybe everyone figures everything out, including you, but you are the only one who knows what your night actions are. With infinite amount of time you will eventually make the right choice. Yeah it's a bit theoretical but at the very least there can be no lynch on day 1 if everyone plays proper. You literally could not have lynched Jester or mafia this cycle either, yet it happened.
No, there is a distinct difference. Especially since I claimed to have turned into a vt.
Town needs a majority or they cannot lynch scum, if they cannot lynch scum they should no lynch and BECAUSE TOWN HAS HALF THE VOTES, THERE CANNOT BE A LYNCH.
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There is nothing anyone can say or do to make a lynch happen day 1 unless people are mentally ill.
My claim this cycle however was believable which made the townies think they could lynch scum, unfortunately they went for iamp but wcyd
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On January 14 2013 03:10 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:09 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 03:07 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent. You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...). I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win. I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles. The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out. On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily. If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad but I had no idea great job dandel =( If you read the OP, you could also have Play nice! same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town. I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms... Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much. No, there is no risk to lynch. We literally cannot lynch scum with 6 people. Maybe everyone figures everything out, including you, but you are the only one who knows what your night actions are. With infinite amount of time you will eventually make the right choice. Yeah it's a bit theoretical but at the very least there can be no lynch on day 1 if everyone plays proper. You literally could not have lynched Jester or mafia this cycle either, yet it happened. No, there is a distinct difference. Especially since I claimed to have turned into a vt. Town needs a majority or they cannot lynch scum, if they cannot lynch scum they should no lynch and BECAUSE TOWN HAS HALF THE VOTES, THERE CANNOT BE A LYNCH.
the difference is that town thought you're a townie and thought it's possible to lynch mafia this cycle, which was not true?
Same could happen with the lyncher thinking someone is town REALLY strongly d1 and therefore giving into lynching the mafia.
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it's instant majority, anything can happen with different timezones
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On January 14 2013 03:14 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:10 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 03:09 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 03:07 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent. You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...). I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win. I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles. The thing is you're not forced to nk, are you? So you can take infinite time to figure it all out. On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote:
So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily. If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad but I had no idea great job dandel =( If you read the OP, you could also have Play nice! same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town. I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms... Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much. No, there is no risk to lynch. We literally cannot lynch scum with 6 people. Maybe everyone figures everything out, including you, but you are the only one who knows what your night actions are. With infinite amount of time you will eventually make the right choice. Yeah it's a bit theoretical but at the very least there can be no lynch on day 1 if everyone plays proper. You literally could not have lynched Jester or mafia this cycle either, yet it happened. No, there is a distinct difference. Especially since I claimed to have turned into a vt. Town needs a majority or they cannot lynch scum, if they cannot lynch scum they should no lynch and BECAUSE TOWN HAS HALF THE VOTES, THERE CANNOT BE A LYNCH. the difference is that town thought you're a townie and thought it's possible to lynch mafia this cycle, which was not true? Same could happen with the lyncher thinking someone is town REALLY strongly d1 and therefore giving into lynching the mafia.
Why would a lyncher lynch town that is not his target? It just makes it harder for the lyncher to lynch his target down the road.
Even if the lyncher wanted this somehow, why would any townie vote for anyone KNOWING that they cant lynch scum.
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On January 14 2013 03:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
There is nothing anyone can say or do to make a lynch happen day 1 unless people are mentally ill.
My claim this cycle however was believable which made the townies think they could lynch scum, unfortunately they went for iamp but wcyd
If they had went for toad you'd have lost too right?
Neither Dandel, nor you nor gonzaw would have been lynched.
You'll lose either way. I don't get you. Why did you claim
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On January 14 2013 03:17 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
There is nothing anyone can say or do to make a lynch happen day 1 unless people are mentally ill.
My claim this cycle however was believable which made the townies think they could lynch scum, unfortunately they went for iamp but wcyd If they had went for toad you'd have lost right? Then why did you claim
Because if we had a no-lynch then I die either straight away, or a cycle later.
This was the ONLY point where town had a majority (if I were telling the truth), unless toad somehow kills iamp, in which case I still would have lost had they lynched toad.
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