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On January 14 2013 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Again, I stopped the conversion and didn't kill myself uselessly on the PGO night 1 (which I was really afraid of), so I'm okay with my own play.
The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO.
I called gonzaw's "masterplan" townie to get you to disagree with me, then I mentioned it again and expected you to push back harder and maybe get you to think gonzaw is scum but then YOU AGREED WITH ME.
Why do people only agree with me when I don't want them to.
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On January 14 2013 02:40 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Again, I stopped the conversion and didn't kill myself uselessly on the PGO night 1 (which I was really afraid of), so I'm okay with my own play.
The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO. I called gonzaw's "masterplan" townie to get you to disagree with me, then I mentioned it again and expected you to push back harder and maybe get you to think gonzaw is scum but then YOU AGREED WITH ME. Why do people only agree with me when I don't want them to. I had my reasons  gonzaw was totes town.
btw, I don't think I'll play such a format again, I'd just be tempted to troll people all day, like I did with Jie.
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oh I used ghost as a blog dumpster this game (rarely), to make sure I'm not talking out of my ass post-game:
most importan one:
Just to make this clear for postgame (yes I'm using you as a blog-dumpster ):
I did not intend to be an ass towards anyone, especially not towards JieXiann but I have to to somehow be able to win this
I really did not know that I can only convert one person per game and have to make JieXiann think that he'll be shrinked tomorrow to make sure he protects me although I can't help him to win anymore
Oh and I've got to shoot some asses and not hit the PGO...
that was after I realized I didn't read the OP either. So sorry for that one but had to play to my wincon
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On January 14 2013 02:39 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:36 Clarity_nl wrote:Nah toad you also coulda won (in this setup) with Mafia + lyncher + pgo (since pgo is lyncher target) Did you get my pm right before the game ended? Okay, I need you to read this and not react yet in the thread since I haven't thought it through. I am the lyncher, my target is gonzaw. You can't get lynched this cycle and you can kill dandel, then no lynch again and you can kill iamp (jester) then we lynch gonzaw and we win together.
yeah I could have. But there's no way to figure out the lynchers target by hard facts. So that would have been an incredible betting game. Joining forces with the Jester was possible no matter what and as already said, a mathematically won game... No I didn't get that pm in time. Wouldn't have mattered though, because it was on gonzaw and Dandel to unvote the jester and not on you. Also I don't think I would have trusted you. Again no way to confirm your target and if I bring you into lylo you could just as well be lying and it's PGO + VT vs mafia whereas lylo with jester is a win for me and jester, so no reason for him to stab me in the back either.
That's a fair point, but again my only chance at winning since the gonzaw lynch wasnt happening. Were you actually convinced that I wasn't the lyncher when I claimed in thread?
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On January 14 2013 02:37 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:36 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 02:34 gonzaw wrote:Can we all just blame the loss on jiexian?  I don't think he played bad actually. The only thing he did wrong was not realize that I can only yak once. And even without that it would have turned out the same way. I had gonzaw down as PGO like 95% and only shot him on n3 to make it a 100% call. So even had he not protected me I'd still have shot him because medic can't protect himself... Does not compute. The second sentence invalidates the first.
Yes I played bad. Not satisfied. At all.
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Toad when you pmed me did you know you could convert once at that point?
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On January 14 2013 02:42 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:39 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 02:36 Clarity_nl wrote:Nah toad you also coulda won (in this setup) with Mafia + lyncher + pgo (since pgo is lyncher target) Did you get my pm right before the game ended? Okay, I need you to read this and not react yet in the thread since I haven't thought it through. I am the lyncher, my target is gonzaw. You can't get lynched this cycle and you can kill dandel, then no lynch again and you can kill iamp (jester) then we lynch gonzaw and we win together.
yeah I could have. But there's no way to figure out the lynchers target by hard facts. So that would have been an incredible betting game. Joining forces with the Jester was possible no matter what and as already said, a mathematically won game... No I didn't get that pm in time. Wouldn't have mattered though, because it was on gonzaw and Dandel to unvote the jester and not on you. Also I don't think I would have trusted you. Again no way to confirm your target and if I bring you into lylo you could just as well be lying and it's PGO + VT vs mafia whereas lylo with jester is a win for me and jester, so no reason for him to stab me in the back either. That's a fair point, but again my only chance at winning since the gonzaw lynch wasnt happening. Were you actually convinced that I wasn't the lyncher when I claimed in thread?
I actually thought you're the Shrink who shrinked himself because I'm pretty sure I've got a pm telling me that's possible, unlike the medic. I just can't it.
So I really didn't think the shrink would target anyone besides himself.
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On January 14 2013 02:44 gonzaw wrote: Toad when you pmed me did you know you could convert once at that point? yes
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Oh yeah @clarity I never actually shrink'd Jie, I was a pussy and didn't want to die to PGO.
Toad told me he (in my theory iamp) conv'd you n2 and I shrunk it, so I just kept shrinking you because if it ain't broken, no need to fix it. Could also have done nothing instead. No matter.
On January 14 2013 02:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:42 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 02:39 Toadesstern wrote:On January 14 2013 02:36 Clarity_nl wrote:Nah toad you also coulda won (in this setup) with Mafia + lyncher + pgo (since pgo is lyncher target) Did you get my pm right before the game ended? Okay, I need you to read this and not react yet in the thread since I haven't thought it through. I am the lyncher, my target is gonzaw. You can't get lynched this cycle and you can kill dandel, then no lynch again and you can kill iamp (jester) then we lynch gonzaw and we win together.
yeah I could have. But there's no way to figure out the lynchers target by hard facts. So that would have been an incredible betting game. Joining forces with the Jester was possible no matter what and as already said, a mathematically won game... No I didn't get that pm in time. Wouldn't have mattered though, because it was on gonzaw and Dandel to unvote the jester and not on you. Also I don't think I would have trusted you. Again no way to confirm your target and if I bring you into lylo you could just as well be lying and it's PGO + VT vs mafia whereas lylo with jester is a win for me and jester, so no reason for him to stab me in the back either. That's a fair point, but again my only chance at winning since the gonzaw lynch wasnt happening. Were you actually convinced that I wasn't the lyncher when I claimed in thread? I actually thought you're the Shrink who shrinked himself because I'm pretty sure I've got a pm telling me that's possible, unlike the medic. I just can't it. So I really didn't think the shrink would target anyone besides himself. I shrunk Clarity every night
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So you thought dandel was the lyncher, with his target being iamp?
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On January 14 2013 02:41 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:40 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Again, I stopped the conversion and didn't kill myself uselessly on the PGO night 1 (which I was really afraid of), so I'm okay with my own play.
The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO. I called gonzaw's "masterplan" townie to get you to disagree with me, then I mentioned it again and expected you to push back harder and maybe get you to think gonzaw is scum but then YOU AGREED WITH ME. Why do people only agree with me when I don't want them to. I had my reasons  gonzaw was totes town. btw, I don't think I'll play such a format again, I'd just be tempted to troll people all day, like I did with Jie.
Ya.. after the first few trolls I had you as 3rd Party I ended up trolling too and it gets really boring after sometime because we knew nobody believed each other >_>
I had no idea who was the shrink
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Shit dude dandel I felt like I got so close to getting you to vote gonzaw, and then hoping toad would hammer it I dunno what I could have done differently/better this game
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On January 14 2013 02:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:44 gonzaw wrote: Toad when you pmed me did you know you could convert once at that point? yes Again, the only thing I was trying to do this game was giving you guys information on what's happening because I knew I had this one as long as everyone does the right call.
And yeah I'm not blaiming anything on Clarity, it was the only way for him to win. Surely a 1% winchance is better than a 0% winchance. It's just horrible that I lost because of this REALLY bad set-up that despite my best efforts town wasn't able to figure out peoples roles AND you pulling that stunt out of nowhere to get a chance at winning.
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I tried going on with it tohe you to claim who the "medic" was or maybe contradict yourelf and be outted as jester
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On January 14 2013 02:47 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:41 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:40 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Again, I stopped the conversion and didn't kill myself uselessly on the PGO night 1 (which I was really afraid of), so I'm okay with my own play.
The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO. I called gonzaw's "masterplan" townie to get you to disagree with me, then I mentioned it again and expected you to push back harder and maybe get you to think gonzaw is scum but then YOU AGREED WITH ME. Why do people only agree with me when I don't want them to. I had my reasons  gonzaw was totes town. btw, I don't think I'll play such a format again, I'd just be tempted to troll people all day, like I did with Jie. Ya.. after the first few trolls I had you as 3rd Party I ended up trolling too and it gets really boring after sometime because we knew nobody believed each other >_> I had no idea who was the shrink Well the plan WAS not letting anybody know I was the shrink (except i told clarity when i thought he was medic), so I guess that worked out, haha
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On January 14 2013 02:47 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:41 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:40 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Again, I stopped the conversion and didn't kill myself uselessly on the PGO night 1 (which I was really afraid of), so I'm okay with my own play.
The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO. I called gonzaw's "masterplan" townie to get you to disagree with me, then I mentioned it again and expected you to push back harder and maybe get you to think gonzaw is scum but then YOU AGREED WITH ME. Why do people only agree with me when I don't want them to. I had my reasons  gonzaw was totes town. btw, I don't think I'll play such a format again, I'd just be tempted to troll people all day, like I did with Jie. Ya.. after the first few trolls I had you as 3rd Party I ended up trolling too and it gets really boring after sometime because we knew nobody believed each other >_> I had no idea who was the shrink
Yeah I actually made a mistake at some point telling you that dandel is the shrink, I immediately told dandel I screwed up and that when you ask he should tell you he fooled me into thinking he's the shrink. That was like the only way to get you both on me n1 <3
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On January 14 2013 02:48 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:47 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:41 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:40 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Again, I stopped the conversion and didn't kill myself uselessly on the PGO night 1 (which I was really afraid of), so I'm okay with my own play.
The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO. I called gonzaw's "masterplan" townie to get you to disagree with me, then I mentioned it again and expected you to push back harder and maybe get you to think gonzaw is scum but then YOU AGREED WITH ME. Why do people only agree with me when I don't want them to. I had my reasons  gonzaw was totes town. btw, I don't think I'll play such a format again, I'd just be tempted to troll people all day, like I did with Jie. Ya.. after the first few trolls I had you as 3rd Party I ended up trolling too and it gets really boring after sometime because we knew nobody believed each other >_> I had no idea who was the shrink Yeah I actually made a mistake at some point telling you that dandel is the shrink, I immediately told dandel I screwed up and that when you ask he should tell you he fooled me into thinking he's the shrink. That was like the only way to get you both on me n1 <3 why was this even your goal?
You'd have had a better chance to win if you got converted.
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On January 14 2013 02:46 Clarity_nl wrote: So you thought dandel was the lyncher, with his target being iamp? I thought dandel was the lyncher with his target being gonzaw.
I was like "SHITSHITSHIT I REALLY HIT THE FUCKING LYNCHERS TARGET" once shit was going to happen and realized I was wrong on my shrink-read on you.
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On January 14 2013 02:48 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:47 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:41 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:40 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Again, I stopped the conversion and didn't kill myself uselessly on the PGO night 1 (which I was really afraid of), so I'm okay with my own play.
The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO. I called gonzaw's "masterplan" townie to get you to disagree with me, then I mentioned it again and expected you to push back harder and maybe get you to think gonzaw is scum but then YOU AGREED WITH ME. Why do people only agree with me when I don't want them to. I had my reasons  gonzaw was totes town. btw, I don't think I'll play such a format again, I'd just be tempted to troll people all day, like I did with Jie. Ya.. after the first few trolls I had you as 3rd Party I ended up trolling too and it gets really boring after sometime because we knew nobody believed each other >_> I had no idea who was the shrink Well the plan WAS not letting anybody know I was the shrink (except i told clarity when i thought he was medic), so I guess that worked out, haha
It worked and it left me no choice but to partner with the yak
which should have gone well =(
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On January 14 2013 02:50 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 02:48 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 02:47 JieXian wrote:On January 14 2013 02:41 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 14 2013 02:40 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 14 2013 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Again, I stopped the conversion and didn't kill myself uselessly on the PGO night 1 (which I was really afraid of), so I'm okay with my own play.
The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO. I called gonzaw's "masterplan" townie to get you to disagree with me, then I mentioned it again and expected you to push back harder and maybe get you to think gonzaw is scum but then YOU AGREED WITH ME. Why do people only agree with me when I don't want them to. I had my reasons  gonzaw was totes town. btw, I don't think I'll play such a format again, I'd just be tempted to troll people all day, like I did with Jie. Ya.. after the first few trolls I had you as 3rd Party I ended up trolling too and it gets really boring after sometime because we knew nobody believed each other >_> I had no idea who was the shrink Yeah I actually made a mistake at some point telling you that dandel is the shrink, I immediately told dandel I screwed up and that when you ask he should tell you he fooled me into thinking he's the shrink. That was like the only way to get you both on me n1 <3 why was this even your goal? You'd have had a better chance to win if you got converted.
I don't think there was a way for me to get converted without toad dying. Him getting protected by jiex and converting me was something I did not anticipate, nor could I have.
The next best thing is to make sure I look like town and don't die to nightkills, and I accomplished both
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