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On January 22 2013 16:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I could have claimed right away but I had to go over why zarapath lied and consider everything. Also I didn't want to get Nk'ed tonight so that is why I waited until I was voted for and likely to die anyway.
It took you an entire day to consider this? Right...
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Anyway, like I said before. If I was SK, I'd try to kill scum during the night. During the supposed RB or zare, I would have killed JSL already instead of Acid.
So that part of your story makes no sense too.
It will be interesting to see though if it turns out if there was a fourth scum or if you were just stalling.
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4 scum is about as bad as 3 scum + 1 SK. plus you might just be delaying.
I'm sure you didnt sleep 24 hours. You had plenty time to claim. If you were RB you would have thought about when to claim before as well, so it shouldnt take you so long.
How would you have gotten killed during the night if you were RB? If your story is true you'd have me and zare as scum/SK. After lynching one of us, there would only be 1 left for you to RB so you wouldnt die during night. I'm sorry your argument makes no sense.
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On January 22 2013 18:28 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Why are you so scared of the safe option? I can't have a game plan past this day.
Are you asking me? You said you RB'ed me, but I didnt get any notification. So that confirms you as scum.
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On January 22 2013 18:27 JacobStrangelove wrote:4 scum can concentrate votes 3 scum and 1 sk can't. Show nested quote +
How would you have gotten killed during the night if you were RB? If your story is true you'd have me and zare as scum/SK. After lynching one of us, there would only be 1 left for you to RB so you wouldnt die during night. I'm sorry your argument makes no sense.
Oh that does make sense. Didn't think of that.... In that case we should 100% lynch zara because then I can just roleblock the other scum. If that doesn't happen you can just lynch me. If I was buying for time does it matter? It's still safer for town to lynch zara first and you know it.
Stop wasting our time!
It doesn't make sense cause you are lying scum.
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On January 22 2013 18:51 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I'm asking you showing that you are scum.
huh?
What does that mean?
It just seems to me that you forgot that because of your story I already know you are scum.
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On January 22 2013 18:59 shz wrote:
One question for zebe, zare, and Trotske: If Jacob is lying and not RB, why would Mocsta lie about being RB'd on N1? Mocsta could not have known that there isn't a RB. If there isn't a roleblocker, Mocsta is fine, but if there is a RB and that RB did not roleblock Mocsta, he would have been called out for it. And town should not lie about being RB'd.
This is the one thing that I'm very concerned about.
Easy peasy
Mocsta knows there is no scum RB, or if there is one, he could tell em not to use their power.
So if someone else claims a RB, then it seems that there is a town and a scum RB.
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I agree its far more likely that there is no scum RB. doesn't make much sense in such a small game.
What do you mean with your question? They were both lying.
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On January 22 2013 19:25 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:00 zebezt wrote:On January 22 2013 18:51 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I'm asking you showing that you are scum. huh? What does that mean? It just seems to me that you forgot that because of your story I already know you are scum. Yeah I know you are scum and you know I am scum... we went over the fact that our stories cancel each other out in this regard. Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:13 shz wrote:On January 22 2013 19:04 zebezt wrote:On January 22 2013 18:59 shz wrote:
One question for zebe, zare, and Trotske: If Jacob is lying and not RB, why would Mocsta lie about being RB'd on N1? Mocsta could not have known that there isn't a RB. If there isn't a roleblocker, Mocsta is fine, but if there is a RB and that RB did not roleblock Mocsta, he would have been called out for it. And town should not lie about being RB'd.
This is the one thing that I'm very concerned about. Easy peasy Mocsta knows there is no scum RB, or if there is one, he could tell em not to use their power. So if someone else claims a RB, then it seems that there is a town and a scum RB. The only thing that makes sense if there isn't a scum RB. What it really looks like. For a scum RB not to use their power is just dumb just to do that little claim. So, in your opinion, it is more likely that Jacob is lying, than that Mocsta was not? Exactly I pointed out there was no rb claims in the entire thread apart from mocca. if there was scum rb'er he would have used it on someone..... But mocca could gain cred if he knew there was no scum rb'er and obviously a town one. We can't both be lying that wouldn't make sense.
Mocsta lies to gain some towncred.
You lie to save your ass from lynching.
Makes sense to me.
I mentioned the possibility of a scum RB to make a complete argument, not because it was likely. But like I said, if Mocsta knows there is no scum RB he can safely claim being RB'ed. Because another RB claim could then be attributed to scum RB'er.
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*sigh
Are you dense or acting dense?
I never claimed you were a scum RB. Just scum.
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Technically it's still a chance. 
Anyway, I explained before, if there is 4 scum it is not safe.
I'm beginning to appreciate this pressuring people. If some people are pressured they seem to make less and less sense. Happened with Mocsta first. Seems to work well on you too.
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You could just be playing for more time.
And yes, you not being RB'er is obvious to me since you didnt RB me or Zare.
If there is 4 scum and we don't kill you, it's already lost. Doesn't matter if the rest discovers your lies then.
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Hey shz,
I would love to know what you think about this situation?
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On January 22 2013 20:56 JacobStrangelove wrote:
If there were 4 mafia (unlikely) then it would be 2-3 and we lose this lynch with nk which I the rb'er can't stop...
Nonsense
If there is 4 mafia you are one of them. Because your story relies on me being an SK and therefore eluding the rolecheck by Trotske. Unless you think there is 4 mafia+SK.
Stop trying to wriggle out of this.
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On January 22 2013 20:56 zarepath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 20:53 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I am not trying to confuse you... I don't see what part of the logic doesn't make sense. I want to see what trotske thinks about it. Zebezt is saying there is more likely hood that there is 4 scum as a mafia team.
I played a 4 scum 13 person Mafia once, but we had no Godfather or any other special powers on the Mafia team.
If zarepath was mafia, wouldn't he have just left out the no Godfather thing to strengthen his case?
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Myeh.. I think we are a bit past wifom now.
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Shz is looking more scummy with every second imo
JSL is actually right about something in this respect. For shz it makes sense to vote zare or me. If he is town he will know that the 4 scum scenario is impossible. Therefore voting JSL is more safe for him.
He has had a lot of time to figure this out, but is instead sticking with JSL and even posted to this effect.
Imo this proves he is not thinking like a townie. Instead he is waiting to see what Trotske is going to do and jump ship to zare when he gets the chance.
Trotske does not have the added benefit of knowing wether or not shz is town, so he has to make the real decision.
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*shrugs
I think I was clear.
I think if I were in your situation I would not vote him if I was town unless I really wanted to make sure that this game ends soon.
I think he looks guilty as hell, but maybe that's because I have the added information of knowing 100% sure that I am town and he lied about RB'ing me.
If I were you I would probably not be 100% convinced and vote zare to be sure.
My point was that since you didn't figure this out yourself it points to you being scum along with JSL.
This post is not telling you how to vote. It is more a warning to Trotske to not trust your intentions in this.
I'm not saying we should lynch you right now.
JSL could just be stalling for time and I'm being paranoid. 
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I guess I am. >
Knowing a 100% scum I just don't want to see this game slipping away from us.
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