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On January 04 2013 10:17 RiseAgain wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391112#2 Its in the OP. Reading is an useful skill. Well we can rule out Palmar as the smurf. In regards to your idea about the set up. It seems that if we have a parity cop. And then lynch the person the parity cop targeted night one. We would have confirmed towns and confirmed scum easily. As we have no millers or GF's. The only trick would be for the parity cop to push his lynch well with out getting outed. Unless you have some idea for claiming. | ||
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On January 04 2013 11:01 Hapahauli wrote: @ Jay Any other thoughts on what Rise and I have discussed over the first pages of the thread? Day length, hammer votes, or anything really. We should lynch someone when we feel confident they are mafia. We should always be aware of the hammer vote. People should be responsible for there hammer vote. We shouldn't rush a lynch cause we lost discussions to read people with. Policy Lynches rarely work so we should refrain from doing them. Pretty straight forward imo. | ||
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On January 04 2013 11:59 MrZentor wrote: ShiaoPi, if you say that you agree with me about not creating arbitrary limits about the length of the day, I will think of you as confirmed town. Should be obvious why limit our selves? Only lynch when we are confident in the lynch. And have had good discussion over it. | ||
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On January 04 2013 11:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: So the hammer vote takes full responsibility for the lynch? Everyone who votes is responsible, not just the hammering guy. Dont like this post from CC its twisting my words for no reason. It feels like a post just to post and look like hes contributing with out saying anything. Ofc the Hammer vote isn't going to take responsibility for the whole lynch but he does seal the deal. Also Hapa on your case on DP I think you bring up some good points. Specifically him calling you out with any case. And saying lurking is terrible but not pressuring any lurkers. | ||
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On January 05 2013 09:43 Hapahauli wrote: So who do you think is town at the moment (and why)? Also there is no reason to out your town reads imo.... | ||
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He came out of no where said something about cc's case being bad soft defended Xaltos and then decided to vote cc . It could be a ploy for discussion it could be a pressure vote. But there is one thing that it did do and that is draw alot of attention to himself. I dont see mafia making a play like and draw scrutiny on themselves. For no foreseeable reason. | ||
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On January 05 2013 13:45 Hapahauli wrote: I disagree. For one, I've never seen yamato play a scum-game, so I'm not sure what he's capable of. Secondly, his post is attention grabbing because it was bad, and NOT because he was attention-seeking. If he was attention-seeking, I'd agree with your town read. This is simply not the case with Yamato's post here. This is especially true since Yamato NORMALLY is very boisterous, active, and confrontational with his scumreads as town. He's been the exact opposite so far. Also Jay, you've been very forthcoming with town-reads, but haven't had any scum-reads to offer. Who is your top scumread right now and why? What this is the first time i said someone might b town. I said as a general rule we shouldn't share town reads. I dont have any real solid reads on any scum yet. But, I dont like how Shaiopi hasnt dont much yet this game. He has put a pressure vote on Risen for no reason. Risen will post as soon as he posts. The vote serves no purpose. He has giving wishy washy stances on everything. Hes calling everyone townie/null read. And then procceds back to "pressuring" Risen just to get more content from him. When asked for scum he responds with me and yamato. Me for doing nothing however he then proceeds to say that thisn't an alignment indicator, and then for yamato for having meltdown in logic. While I dont think it was necessary for yamato to post what he did about hapa. I think he did it cause he was showing his thought process. On January 05 2013 12:14 ShiaoPi wrote: Hmm looks like RiseAgain has still not responded.... Anyway moving onto the matters more at hand for now. I don't think that DP or Hapa are scum, it feels much more like townies at each others throats for minor things. While I can see where both are coming from during the exchange I does kind of worry me that DP does not follow up with a vote as Hapa does. Does not seem to fit when he calls him scum more than once earlier. @Mr.CC Xatalos is kind of a lynchbait in itself. He is not that easy to read (at least for me), but what I have seen so far from him does not really convince me on his scumminess. From time to time he does these 180-turns but usually it is because he lays his entire thoughtprocess out and therefore every nook and turn of his mind is in the thread. He is nullish right now. I want to see more from RiseAgain, so ##Vote: RiseAgain get in here and do something please!  Then he procceds to poke at yamato with out giving any stance on his posting. On January 05 2013 12:50 ShiaoPi wrote: yamato77 this is kind of really silly..... He has been trying to lay low this entire game. I think its scummy. And i could see him as scum for sure. Might as well follow it up ##Vote ShiaoPi Thoughts? | ||
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On January 05 2013 14:07 ShiaoPi wrote: @Jay: I am doing a pressure vote on Rise since his last post seemed to me as if he would just be gone for a couple of hours before popping back into the thread, as he has not done so, I believe myself justified well enough, since I have questions for him that I want answered. I think you got ninja'ed by me during writing your post. I did give out a stancee on his posting. I also fail to see how I have tried to lie low in this game.... Your case seems really weak to me. /shrug You have attempted to not trod on anyones toes this game. You think hapa and dp are town you think Xalatos is town/null You give some weak reads on yamato and me. And then you say you would consider voting DP but would be hesitant. Question what made you switch? You said you thought he was town, But now you can see your self voting for him. What made you go from probably town to possible lynch target as scum. Also with all that has happened in the thread any new scum reads? | ||
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On January 05 2013 14:39 DarthPunk wrote: how about everyone who is down for voting for me votes for me? Don't hammer but then I know where I stand at least. So far phantom votes on you Me Hapa ShiaoPi And possible Xantols | ||
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On January 05 2013 14:53 DarthPunk wrote: Oh and for the record. I think cheesecake is probably Town for not jumping on either hapa or myself. I am sure scum would love to get me or hapa if he is town for free. now your assuming hapa is town again.... | ||
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On January 05 2013 14:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Jesus Jay, he said "if he is town". Trying to get a cheat shot in much? EBWODP What's it to you? | ||
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On January 05 2013 15:10 Hapahauli wrote: No, DP is actually town. You may be convinced, I will hold my reservations | ||
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On January 05 2013 15:37 Hapahauli wrote: So regarding Jay's stuff on DP... it doesn't look very good. It looks a lot like he's trying to shovel shit on DP. After Hero Mini, my view on Jay is that he's lynch-bait, so I'm rather hesitant about lynching him. Right now, I'm unsure how likely his behavior is coming from a "town-Jay." His play on it's face is scummy, but I really need to hear more from him. @ Jay What do you make of my newly disclosed town-read on DP? Agree or disagree? Secondly, your quote accusing DP of assuming I was town was very clearly mis-interpreting his actions (in which he very clearly qualified as only IF I was town). It doesn't look very good. Explain yourself. First off you said you have done this before how many times have you done this tunneling on DP and out of the times you have done it how many times have you been wrong. If you play with DP alot and you can read him consistently then I will reconsider my position. The reason I find him scummy as been said before. Is his flip flopping on Hapa from hes obv completly with out a doubt scum to i have no fucking idea. It seemed to me like scum backing off of a mislynch they were pushing gone wrong. I personally put alot less faith in reading people's reactions to when they are about to be or going to be lynched. The quote was me being frustrated with DP's flip flopping he has gone from scum to town to scum now giving someone townie cred for the possibility of one of his scum reads being town. So yes he did change his opinion on hapa again. I didnt say anything wrong. Also I dont like CC hes doing absolutely nothing this game. He has made some worthless comments about concentrating on finding scum. He was mentioning the DP-Hapa conversations early one with out giving his opinion on him hasn't commentated much on it when DP was doing some scummy stuff. On January 05 2013 11:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: So Xatalos is scummy yo So now DarthPunk is possibly scum and he provides a quote with a bunch of dem bolded statements to back it up. But didn't Xatalos just say that DP was looking town? That he agreed with a lot of what he had to say? This is a huuuuuge 180 right here. He just felt very comfortable with DP being town. Now he feels uneasy. Dat 180 on DP. Explain. He makes a case on Xalatos for making a 180 on DP and calls him scummy for it. However when DP does so many 180s on Hapa hes trying to pull off a 900. CC doesn't give it a second thought although DP is doing the samething as Xalatos CC ignores it. CC has played like he has more knowledge on other townies. He would of known if DP and Hapa were town or not so he played accordingly. Also his lack of anything in his filter is really disconcerting. He has said useless 1 liners. And made a case of 180s that were exactly what DP was doing. ##Unvote ##Vote Mr.CheeseCake | ||
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On January 06 2013 03:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I've done absolutely nothing? Watch your tongue, scumster, you've done nothing as well. Your vote is pretty lulzy considering I called you out on your attempted cheap shot at DP. Also, anything DP-Hapa related is completely independent of Xalatos. DP's 180s aren't the same as his by any means. Thats not the reason I wrote a case on you. I didnt even commentate it in my case as its irrelevant as why you are scummy. You have wrote a crap load of one liners and things that should be obvious. You seem to me lacking presence in this thread. You are calling me scummy. But you fail to follow thru with your read. Just as you have done with ShaioPi and Mr.Zentor. You make glib comments with no substance so you seem to be contributing. | ||
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On January 06 2013 07:49 Hapahauli wrote: @ Jay What are your feelings on ShaioPi now? I can't figure out at all why you unvoted him, especially since Shaio hasn't even replied to you. Secondly, you've been gunning after DP for a while now, and have basically been calling out his "scumslips." Yet it's really strange that you've never had your vote on him. Reread the thread he responded to me I then asked him another set of questions, Which he also responded too as well. The tunnel is strong in this one T_T And no I haven't been gunning after DP that was you btw. I thought the case on him you made wasn't decent. I also asked you question regarding you and DP and your past games. Plz answer it. Comon Hapa Read the thread Brah. | ||
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On January 06 2013 08:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: You have no idea how fast I was about to red text that lololol Jesus CC That's a cheat shot bra | ||
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On January 06 2013 08:42 Hapahauli wrote: Oh yes you did ask him some questions, however I'm still not sure what your current suspicions on Shaio are. You voted him early, and after asking him a couple of questions, I haven't heard you talk about Shaio since. DP and I have played in a couple of games. From my memory... TL Mafia LVII (DP = scum, Hapa = town) Rockband Mini Mafia (Both town) Mario Mini Mafia (DP = town, Hapa = scum) Witchcraft Mini Mafia (DP = town, Hapa = town) This is what I asked you First off you said you have done this before how many times have you done this tunneling on DP and out of the times you have done it how many times have you been wrong. If you play with DP alot and you can read him consistently then I will reconsider my position. | ||
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I think that ShaoiPi could still be scum. But atm I believe i have a better read on CC. His lack of substance in his posts. And his continual lack of conviction, makes it seem to me that he is a scum trying to look like he is contributing with out really doing so. | ||
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Plz reread my case on him. It seems you missed some stuff before | ||
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On January 06 2013 09:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Pressure voting is fun. Nobody is getting lynched right now anyway. Just a pressure vote so he does stuff. You dont follow a pressure vote with stating that it's a pressure vote, because then there is no fucking pressure. Look at the results On January 06 2013 09:44 MrZentor wrote: I feel pressured. CC would rather do nothing with his vote and never write a case, because as scum he would rather not really stand out. The only case he actually did write on Xaltos he backs down from. Then instead of writing a new case on someone he insteads decides to throw his vote on Zentor for pressure instead of making a case on the two people he calls scum me and Xaltos. On January 06 2013 09:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Tbh I think everyone was overstating my read on Xatalos. My original "case" was just a read post with vote pressure and it kind of got blown out of proportion both by myself and others. Allow me to rationalize why his indecision struck me so: Oats as scum in XXXII. I caught him flip flopping his read on Yamato so hard and lynch him for it. Xatalos did the same thing by contradicting himself within the frame of ~20mins with only 1 post from you inbetween. I'm starting to realize the two situations are different (as scum are more refined in these non-newbie games). But my concern stands that he's only really done that the entire game so far; saying he could be scum because this, but it could also be town. My experience with such play has been that it is scum. Tell me: Is it different? This entire game he has been poking at people with accusations that there scum with no backing Here are some instances from his filter. On January 05 2013 14:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Anyone read Mr.Z's comment about "I'm easy to read because I do stuff scum never would do!" To be scummy as fk? On January 06 2013 08:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: snip* Xatalos scum. Jay scummy as fk. On January 05 2013 15:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: What's it to me? That's a scummy as shit move you pulled right thar sonny boy. On January 06 2013 03:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I've done absolutely nothing? Watch your tongue, scumster, you've done nothing as well. Even his latest post i just saw before I was gonna post this reeks of a fucking politican. Oh thats a scum slip. Oh wait nvm hah hah ha im joking. Lemme ask someone something so i look like im contributing with out giving any reads. On January 06 2013 10:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hapa, you know how much I want to call that a scumslip right? Hehehe. Oh lordy you get me riled up. But seriously Mr.Z -- your opinions please. CC has refused to make any waves. He isn't writing cases. He's not putting out any good thoughts all he is doing is setting in the back row making pot shots when he can. Has a single thing of what CC wrote even impacted the thread at all? I think that as him being mafia he has chosen not to do much because of a less chance of him being caught. Hes to scared to lead a mislynch so instead he carefully goes on his way with out tredding on anyones toes. He does do his best to appear to be contributing. But everything he does or says is unsubstantial. Thoughts? | ||
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On January 06 2013 10:12 Hapahauli wrote: Well do you agree with me or disagree? And take your vote off him if you're unwilling to lynch him. Your pressure is better directed at your actual scumreads right now (Jay/Xatalos) than someone who clearly doesn't give a shit about your vote. Do you see his lack of conviction yet? | ||
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On January 06 2013 10:15 yamato77 wrote: I'm tired of this Hapa tunnel shit. Either vote me or not. I've been up front about my play this game and yet you continue to act suspicious of me. You have yet to vote me. It seems to me you're sitting on the idea of voting me just to look like you have scum reads. Fuck that. ##Vote: Hapahauli You stated you were fairly certain Hapa was town i understand your frustrated with him calling you scum and not making a substantial case but then ask for a fucking case. I want to know your scum reads what are they. Also Mr.Z who do you wanna lynch today And Rise help town plz stop lurking | ||
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On January 06 2013 10:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Jay tunneling me, haha. Hey look a post with out substance lollll How about you write a case on someone you wanna lynch plz I find it ironic that you think im tunneling you, as I have called DP scummy and said I would vote him at the time. And I have made a case on ShaioPi. | ||
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And hapa why are you convinced CC is townie he hasn't wrote a single case on his reads. It would also suck if Rise got replaced. I just want him to come back tho. ShaioPi lets see ya | ||
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On January 06 2013 11:04 Hapahauli wrote: To map out my thoughts a bit: People that are useless: Yamato, RiseAgain, ShaioPi People I wouldn't lynch above the useless d00ds: Xatalos People that are likely town, but I'm just infinitely paranoid about: DarthPunk People that are likely town: MrZ, MrCC, Jay I feel like two scum have to come from the useless category (possibly including Xatalos). Pretty much everyone else has given me some reason to think they're town except for three players. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLll Feel like a just ran a marathon. Hapa this is like the first time someone has called me prolly town. In any game I have ever played. And not like a wtf hes so terrible at this game and scummy he has to be town. Ah sweet sweet success Improvement OP | ||
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My idea is that we enact a new policy lynch called. Lynch Useless Mutha Fuckas called LUMF :D Ahem also wouldn't mind LUMFing CC That or we can just lynch a lurker zzz How would you guys feel about lynching a lurker then? | ||
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On January 06 2013 11:52 MrZentor wrote: We have four confirmed townies so far. MrZentor, Hapa, DP, and Jay So I'd be fine with killing any of the others really. I just want to get to the second day already. Your wrong no one is a confirmed town. Don't start throwing the term around either. Thats honeslty pretty damn scummy. Plz who do you wanna lynch today not careing who gets lynch is also scummy | ||
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On January 06 2013 15:56 Z-BosoN wrote: Finally, a living soul around these part! Hi there ^^ I agree that Mr.Z has very few good looking posts, I've read somewhere that his meta isn't one to be taken too seriously. He has also been open with his thoughts, if you look at my spreadsheet. He's not a particular strong town read, but I don't want to lynch into him today. What I don't understand is that you are finding him to be scum for the very same actions that you yourself took! You took a vote at CC. You took a vote at hapa. I find it hypocritical for you to use that sole fact for judging someone scum. Why is Mr.Z scum for placing his vote non-seriously if thats the same thing you are doing? Hey Z-Boson Wanna kill CC with me :3 | ||
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On January 06 2013 17:11 yamato77 wrote: Every time I'm on I don't really get to interact with anyone but you so hopefully at some point this changes. From here on out I'll be able to devote more time to this game so it will get better. So whos your biggest scum read atm? Do you plan to write a case today? | ||
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On January 06 2013 17:15 ShiaoPi wrote: Okay finally got some time to give out some thoughts. First off welcome Z-Boson, good to have a active replacement! Moving on to some housekeeping: DP's reactions since I was gone seem to me pretty townie, by extension Hapa seems town as well with the entire thoughtprocess behind tunneling being revealed. So I am retracting my scum-leaning read that I had on DP earlier. I am interested currently in these people: yamato Xatalos MrZ yamato: There are many things which would probably be me reiterating stuff that was mentioned (discrepancy in behaviour as hapa said). Not being really present, throwing votes around with little reasoning. But that can be explained by his lack of time due to RL business. could really use more analysis and reasoning from him. Xatalos: I said earlier that Xatalos is a lynchbait. That is because he is hesitating a lot, laying out a lot of his thoughts in the thread and therefore opening himself up for harsh critique if he changes his mind and posts it. His lack of any stance is alarming though. While it is somewhat just his playstyle (IIRC) I still dislike it a lot, I mean day 1 has been going for quite a long time now already, while we did not get more information through lynching there is still a lot of content to search through and find something. MrZ: He is useless, which is stupidly just his meta with the lightheartedness he has shown. I don't like useless people but cannot condemn him based on this. Actually I started this post with wanting to lynch into Xata/yamato preferrably yamato but now that I am writing those reads feel just unsatisfying...There is nothing really much that distinguishes one option from the other. I am reluctant to lynch yamato since he seems legitimately busy, also relcutant to lynch Xata for just playing as he does (same goes for MrZ). Somehow this day 1 has not been really productive >_> So start scum hunting :O Whats your opinion of The Replacement. Also plz read my Cases on CC and comment on them. | ||
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Also Yamato i also think Zentor could be scummy. Alot of people have a town read on him it could jsut be his meta but hes done some pretty scummy things  | ||
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I for one would not be interested in lynching yamato he seems like a lynch bait i am after all an expert on these matters. Zentor has given me second thoughts by posting a post that wasnt completely shitty :D Good job Zentor. Both of them are easy lynch candidates for mafia as they do scummy things by them selves and you don't have to actually put your self in a comprising situation. ATM I am unsure of Xatalos I'll have to give his Filter another gander. @ZBoson I have written two cases on CC so far The main points are lack of cases but also lack of conviction and his ability to not really have a stance on anyone. Hes called me scummy like 3 times but as of yet he hasn't given me a reason of why i am or am not scummy. Its obvious in his reads that atm he has no plans to lynch me why cause then he would have to put something on the line. Which as scum he is hesitant to do. | ||
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ZBoson and Hapa seeing CC's recent posts and his continual job of not posting anything concrete can we lynch him. yet. I think that he has posted enough to give us more information as opposed to yamato for instance. Lets do this we should have enough for the lynch with me zboson hapa xatalos and zentor | ||
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On January 07 2013 06:00 MrZentor wrote: I'm not voting for CC. He isn't scum. UGUGGGHGH Your terrible at your job hammer man | ||
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On January 07 2013 06:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hapa, you said somewhere that you had a town read on Jay. Could you extrapolate on that a bit? Hey CC you said you have a scum read on me. Would you lynch me today? Do you plan to do any follow up on the case? | ||
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Hapa questions do you think that both of the scum could of been on that wagon. Do you think it was scummy as fuck for what Zentor and Yamato did. Hammaring with out talking to the town first is terrible we should all b agreeing on shit. Not do rash dumb actons | ||
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On January 07 2013 08:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I'm just concerned why Yamato shows up randomly and hammers... and then Jay's like can we lynch cc now lol Because im pretty confident your scum. | ||
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On January 07 2013 08:24 Hapahauli wrote: Well I'm going to take some time off tonight. I'm interested in seeing people scumhunt. There's been quite a shortage of that this game despite bursts of activity by players as a whole. Expect my scumreads tonight or tomorrow morning. answer me first plz | ||
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On January 07 2013 09:54 DarthPunk wrote: Hardly panicking lol. It does suck to mislynch but as you imply it is quite expected day one. Im most annoyed that Zentor didn't really care about who he was mislynching. Frustrating imo. We had unlimited amounts of time to get scum. But instead cause hes impatient he wants to push things along and lynch a townie. I almost wanna policy lynch him cause i hate his meta so much | ||
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Also i think ZBoson might be scummy this is a read straight from the gut tho. IF i have time ill try to write a case incase i get killed. | ||
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On January 08 2013 02:07 Hapahauli wrote: @ Jay You don't mention Xatalos much at all in your filter. Though before the lynch, you make two notable comments on Xatalos: In the first comment, you acknowledge ShaioPi's suspicion on Xatalos. In the second comment (two hours before the lynch), you promise to look into him. However, two hours of suspicion against Xatalos pass (including cases dropped by both CC and Z-Boson). You don't post in favor of Xatalos until post-lynch: You have many harsh words to say about the lynch (and apparently you were seeing townie things in his filter), and not once did you even attempt to step in and stop things. Not only this, but I can't make coherent sense of your suspicions. You were expressing a lot of desire to lynch Mr.CC post-flip, and in this post, you think MrZ and Yamato are the ones that are "scummy as fuck." Why did you not step in to stop the Xatalos lynch? Apparently you were reading his filter at the time suspicion against him was taking off, were seeing townie things in said filter, and simply did not post about it. Explain your suspicions right now. They aren't coherent. First off I didn't think some people would just hammer out of the blue. I expected town to reach a conclusion together and as a whole. Im also not used to Instant lynch. I thought I would have more time. I did try to stop the lynch before it happened. When i checked on the thread. Xatalos was at 4. So I posted that we shouldnt move on the lynch. But it was to late at that point and i got ninja'd by Yamatos hammer. I had a null read on Xatalos Slighty leaning townie. I put my vote where my suspicions lie and it is and still has been CC. Why do you have this terrible town read on him. Would you be down for a lynch on him tmw? Also Z-Boson is kinda erking me. I have played with him only once before that i can remember and he did a good job as scum. So im kind of suspicious of him to say the least... I fully support DPs case. And that we should move on the lynch | ||
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On January 08 2013 07:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: And what happens when i flip town, darth? Expected response: you won't Then we get rid of a scummy as hell townie | ||
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Also DP why would you think im scum. If CC comes up as scum. Pushing your partner hard when there is only 2 scum is pretty stupid | ||
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So that's two people I want to lynch. Yamato why didnt you want to lynch CC earlier? | ||
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On January 08 2013 13:07 DarthPunk wrote: So yeah. At this point I probably want to lynch jay. His behaviour towards me is directly correlated to the consensus of the thread. He starts off heaping shit on me when the whole town is sheeping hapa day one and I am universally unpopular. Then when everyone calls me town he still maintains suspicion of me publicly. HOWEVER he did nothing to back up that suspicion, barely interacted with me and has seemingly forgotten his suspicions of me without a reasonable explanation why. Townies do not let scum reads just drop off the face of the earth without reason. ##Vote Jay Yes I Sheeped Hapa in that moment, as did most of the thread on his case on you. Then Hapa turned around and gave you a town read. He explained his thought process a bit but i wasnt quite convinced. Why is it wrong to not go with everyones reads. I see nothing wrong with being suspicious of you. Would you pref i just sheep whatever the fuck hapa is saying. I then asked him again how many games he played with you has he been able to read you well before and he gave me two instances when he correctly read you as town. So with the new information i decided that I could change my read on you as scum to leaning townie. I didn't just drop my scummy read. I looked at new information presented and changed it accordingly. I believe you do the same. | ||
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On January 08 2013 13:22 Hapahauli wrote: Yeah, I understand that scum can play actively. However, I have yet to run into a scum that draws attention to themselves in such a manner so deliberately, and at the same time remain that calm about it. There are a very short list of players I believe are capable of that. CC is most definitely not one of those players. Why do you think CC is a terrible scum. Your argument is based solo on CC being a shitty scum player | ||
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On January 08 2013 13:46 DarthPunk wrote: But you have no evidence to suggest that he can't. What you are saying is that the entire basis of your defense of CC and trashing everyones case on him is a Hunch that he couldn't play that way? DP how do you feel about a Shaiopi lynch i think his stark inactivity could hurt us whether hes scum or town? | ||
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On January 08 2013 13:49 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah but you never informed anyone of your change of read. It was DP still scummy yo. To DP is townie now. So what you are saying is that you sheeped hapa when you thought I was scummy and sheeped hapa now you think I am townie. I wish people would stop sheeping hapa. Why the hell would. I personally feel that its not neccessary to share town reads as it gives mafia easier targets to shoot. Go reread my filter. It wasn't as night is to day. It was me seeing hapa's experience with you as town asking him more questions if he actually could do a decent job determining your alignment. | ||
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On January 08 2013 13:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Jay, You seem not to care whether you lynch town or scum. What gives? You made that comment about lynching a detrimental townie to me, now you think shaiopi would be a good lynch whether hes scum or town. Also, you've been very inactive / not involved in the thread as well. Why are you in favor of a SP lynch? I never said he would be a good lynch if hes town. I said his inactivity hurts us whether hes scum or town. In the end I can never know for sure if you, ShaioPi, ZBoson, Zentor or anyone else for that matter is town or scum. However if ShaioPi looks scummy then we should by all means lynch him. So far he hasn't given us much content to go off and determine his alignment. I dont want him at LYLO because if he stays at this post rate we still wont have much to go on. I have been a bit inactive I find it hard to continually post content. Also it find it difficult to continue to contributing when my best scum read is still alive. I had this same problem before with kata in one of my past games I got to tunneled on her and didn't branch out on other people. CC whos your biggest scum read atm? | ||
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On January 08 2013 14:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: You said you would be down for his lynch. How does he look scummy with the exception of lurking? What makes him have a good chance of flipping scum? Well lets see here he was on a Mislynch could be null tell could be scummy. I posted a case on him earlier that i thought he was scummy. He has done nothing to change my read of him. Do you think that he has done anything townie? I Think your im scummy tunnel me shit is stupid as fuck. I would say that I think that Yamato just sounds like a frustrated townie still. He's trying to give his read, and hapa is busy defending you who the fuck knows why I think he should let you defend yourself, If you do it properly at least. Instead of this im scummy tunnel me bullshit thats not helping anyone. I dont like that Hapa is so confident your town. Now your scum reads plz | ||
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I was not happy at what Zentor and Yamato. And i was posting when i was kinda pissed. Scummy wasnt the right word to use tho. I think Dumb as fuck or really stupid, or anti town would all of sufficed better. I still am Null on those players. Leaning town a bit based on what people have said about Zentor's meta and how you guys have a good read on him. Similar to how i deferred to your experience with DP for a read. I have been trying to expand my scum reads more tho cause this CC lynch doesnt look like its gonna happen unless you change your mind about him. What if you were in my position. If you had someone that you thought was scum. But the town refused to lynch him. Even had players HARD defending him. Its kind of frustrating. Z-Boson was more of a gut thing I had the same premonition last game with him and I was right he was scum. So I thought i would throw it out there as opposed to sitting on the information. Also at the top of your post you say its a push.... Its not a push its giving my consent to a lynch that your pushing. I havent made a real case yet since my last one on cc. But its wierd as well. Before most towns were very case orientated. This town not so much. Anyway If ShaioPi starts shitting town vibes and rainbows whats your next scum read? | ||
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On January 08 2013 14:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Will post more tomorrow. It's like 1am. Have work etc so ill check game during my lunch break and continue posting afterwards. We have plenty of time, dont lynch anybody. You dodged my question about yoru sucm reads T_T | ||
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On January 08 2013 15:13 DarthPunk wrote: Jay from these latest post you have made it perfectly clear that you don't care if we lynch town. You are scum. Let's do this thing. I have made it clear huh. Well that sucks i just thought i was getting good at mafia. But looks like im still bad at showing to town that im town Why do you say that? | ||
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On January 08 2013 16:05 DarthPunk wrote: Did I move off cc? I said his recent posts were townie, and now I am focusing on jay. I am not too stubborn to ignore your opinions altogether. Do I think there is a good chance cc is scum? yes. Is jay scummier right now? yes. I swear to god if I was still tunnelling cc you would be like: Hey DP Y U still tunnel townie cheesecake? Some reasons of my scummyness would be great thx | ||
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On January 08 2013 16:13 DarthPunk wrote: You don't care if the person you lynch is town or scum. How about that? Yea thats why i been pushing my scum read CC all game. Also the reason I didn't want people to lynch Xatalos right as i said wait stop you know. As in dont lynch this guy cause he's prolly not scum. If thats all you got im not impressed | ||
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Time to go shift thru some filters. Can mafia hold KP or decide not to shoot? | ||
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On January 09 2013 06:12 MrZentor wrote: Confirmed town Hapahauli MrZentor Mr. CheeseCake Most Probably Town jaybrundage DarthPunk I Hate to Think He's Town, but He Probably Is Z-Boson Scum yamato77 ShiaoPi It's pretty simple. Hrrm I'm undecided on CC still. Given the fact that mafia can hold KP they could set this up to exonerate CC and give him "confirmed" townie status. They run into the risk of getting counter claimed by the real doctor. But it is a fifty percent shot that we don't have a doctor. Are those odds the mafia are willing to take I don't know. But its good to keep in mind. | ||
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On January 09 2013 06:24 Hapahauli wrote: Why is jay most likely town at this point? Always lynch bait never not lynch bait duh | ||
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On January 09 2013 06:34 Hapahauli wrote: It's certainly possible, but very very unlikely. First of all, CC didn't have a high chance of getting lynched given my support of him. Why would he claim (with a 50% of getting insta-lynched from a counter-claim) as scum? It makes no sense. But given that if Scum have a RB CC is now useless. Like if Scum couldn't hold on to KP i would of liked the claim more if we could count for sure that he is town. But i guess I see where your coming from It doesn't make much sense for scum. Ill withdraw my scum read on CC. HI town CC nice to meet ya :D | ||
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On January 09 2013 07:12 MrZentor wrote: I don't know why you'd keep two obviously townie players in there. ^ | ||
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Shiaopi and Yamato Shaiopi has been lurking alot still. Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum. I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red. Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on? | ||
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Also if you had to lynch out of these two who would you lynch? Lastly your top 4 town reads. | ||
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On January 09 2013 08:18 yamato77 wrote: Nah, I'm done giving my suspicions out to the thread just for you to sit there and criticize me for it. ##Vote Mr Zentor Do something. Prove I'm scum if you think so because you sitting on your ass this whole game and acting like you're confirmed town is fucking pathetic. If you're confirmed town that's the BEST time to be super active and pushy with your reads. You haven't done shit and I'm not taking any off you until you do. It sucks to get tunneled but would you kindly offer up your second scum read | ||
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On January 09 2013 08:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Pretty much Yamato's scumreads this game are people that have "done nothing" I still haven't seen him ever mention Jay at all... I honestly expect him to pull me up as his scumread. We have a pretty good town circle @CC so who are your two top scum reads. Who out of Shiapi and Yamato would you want to lynch? | ||
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On January 09 2013 09:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I''ll be honest it's hard to read Yamato becacuse of our history. The fact that he's only ever wanted to lynch Mr. Z is not good, as he is probably the easiest person to call scum. His pressure on me feels... I can't really describe it. But it' somehow different than our other games. I really can't put my finger on it SP is just a lurker. In my experience, hardcore lurkers like him end up flipping town. I already gave my stance on his paranoid defending himself, but he's still not a good lynch for today. Jay, why did you let DP make a case on me,, when you said you would? Why would you let someone who could have been scum make that case instead of yourself? Laziness | ||
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On January 09 2013 12:00 MrZentor wrote: I'm starting to feel like Hapa is the only one who can read me. :/ Its ok Zentor i wont lynch you D: | ||
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About ShaioPi he was pretty damn lurky, But i hear his scum meta is to lurk what gives do you still see him as a possible lynch. Replacement players throw a wrench in things cause its like the player is given a new slate and I find that its hard to use posts from before cause the new player has no idea why the previous player put them down. TBH havent played with much replacements and thats what I seem to b feeling. CC you have been kinda lurky as late. Do you still want to lynch Yamato. Whats your thoughts on Shaio/Ion and Zentor atm? | ||
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On January 09 2013 12:03 Hapahauli wrote: I think Dandel has the highest chance of flipping scum. The problem is, lynching replacements early is generally a terrible play. Why is that? Im assuming becasue they offer a different view of the players objective or motives are? | ||
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On January 09 2013 14:27 yamato77 wrote: Jay, who do you want to lynch? At the moment I would vote for you or Ion. I actually agree with Zentor on his townie list. Its a process of elimination but tbh it think it should work fine. We have two confirmed blues with no scum counter claim, hapa who if scum then we all fucked. That leaves Zentor, Yamato, Ion, Z-Boson. I agree with Zentors reads sporatic as they may b. So that leaves You, Ion and Z-Boson. I am not sure about Z-Boson but a couple of townies have a town read on him. So No go for that lynch today. And that leaves you and Ion TBH i thought this would have been over with yet cause the lynch goes thru if its HAPA approved. @Yamato What was your motive for lynching Xatalos btw with out waiting for the town to come to an agreement? Do you feel comfortable voting for Ion, Why or why not? | ||
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On January 10 2013 02:33 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm pretty sure the 2 scum are between Zentor, Zbo, and jay. Now to try and figure out which..... What made you change your read on ShiaoPi? Besides the obv ofc. Also you proclaimed Yamato was scum earlier what changed. @Yamato My read changed after the process of elimination. I have done a bit of sheeping I admit, however I do kinda agree with Zentors reads of the town regardless if he can be occasionally trolly. On my post after the lynch I already explained it. I said scummy wasn't the right word. I think really stupid or dumb would of sufficed better, and yes i was not happy after that lynch. You guys made a vote on someone that I had no real scum read on. Hammering when we hadn't reach an agreement as town wasn't smart. I also think that scum were on the wagon for Xatalos. On January 07 2013 08:14 Blazinghand wrote: Final Vote Count Xatalos (5): Mr. Cheesecake (2): yamato77 (0): Hapahauli (0): Z-Boson (0): jaybrundage (0): DarthPunk (0): MrZentor (0): ShiaoPi (0): - Not Voting (2): Hapahauli, DarthPunk 5 votes are required to lynch. No posting until night post. Assuming Hapa is townie or da best scummy eva and assuming that the blue claims are real as they haven't been counter claimed then we have 3 townies. 4 including me as i know for my self that i am town. That leaves 2 scum on the Xatalos wagon. Out of these 4 ShiaoPi, Z-Boson, Mr.Zentor, and Yamato. I believe that Mr.Zentor is town atm. So that leaves ShiaoPi, Z-Boson, and Yamato as possible scum. So that is a big reason I can see you being scum Yamato. Process of Elimination. I'm going to do more looking and see if I can't narrow my reads town. Yamato I would very much like your reads on Z-Boson and ShiaoPi/Dandel plz Also Z-boson and Dandel plz give reads on the other two people in this group. Thx | ||
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Also there is only two scum as well so it becomes alot easier to accomplish this. Also I also have a PM and mine is actually green  We both know that regardless of your alignment you would have to claim town ofc. Also Z-Boson you have kind of declined in activity. Thoughts on ShiaoPi and Dandel plz | ||
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On January 10 2013 03:37 Z-BosoN wrote: Why are you ignoring any discussion on him, and just state that you are beginning to "appreciate" him? What is there to appreciate? I think i get his play style more. And I would go so far as to say that i think he is a townie. Part of it is his town read on me. And part of it is his reads in general. Also this devil may care attitude while risky seems to me like a townie that was florishing under Hapa's town read. I don't think that someone scummy who gets a town read would be quite so bold. | ||
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On January 10 2013 04:44 Hapahauli wrote: Sorry, but I need to see you do analysis. It also would take all of 10 minutes. Hapa do you want to consolidate on Dandel? I would prefer you spear headed this lynch instead of letting scum do it. | ||
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On January 10 2013 05:27 Dandel Ion wrote: Too bad jay doesn't have the balls to call me scum to my face. He has to wait for mommy Hapa to do it for him. Come on jayjay. I'm sure you have VEEEEEEERY good resons for lynching me. Bring em on. Lol petty insulting really. I think your scum. Is that enough for ya? I have given my reasons on my feelings for the lynch and they are very much using elimination to narrow down candidates. Im not sure how town view this way of scum hunting. But I think its perfectly applicable. So you think that zbo could be scum and that yamato is town interesting... | ||
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On January 10 2013 05:50 Dandel Ion wrote: So why do you go for me, Hapas lynch of choice, with the reasoning that I just sheep Hapas opinion? Have you heard of the principle of "hypocrisy"? And how do you plan on explaining that it's such a sure scumtell on me, but doesn't apply to you? What? Your not even speaking coherently anymore.... No Im not planning to vote you cause your sheeping Hapa's opinion. I have never mentioned that before.... Have you heard the principle of "reading the thread" Go read my posts if you want to know why i would be down for lynching you. Until you start reading my posts it's useless to try to defend your self. Until you know where im coming from. I'll give you a hint its the process of elimination. | ||
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On January 10 2013 05:53 Dandel Ion wrote: No that is not enough by far. You said the words, but it's probably the weakest reasoning I've seen. Even weaker than Zbobo's lolread. If you wanna bus me, do it properly. What??? rofl are you insinuating that your scum and that im your partner.... I dont even... Is this your ploy to make me look scummy after we lynch you. It doesnt even make sense tho. Cause you would be playing against your wincon... As town why would you say this... I dont see any reasons. | ||
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On January 10 2013 06:05 Dandel Ion wrote: @jay: But since it's only process of elimination for you, jay. Why don't you have more? Why don't you make up something better? If you want me lynched, you gotta do shit for it. Make the case of ages. Since I'm apparantly such an obvious scummer, shouldn't be too hard for you to find something on me. Or are you scared of how you will look after my flip? That shouldn't be necessary, you're so very sure I'm scum after all. Take responsibility for your own action. If you don't give me a good reason why I'm scum, then you're scum too. Well were both scum according to you. I never said your an obvious scummer don't put words in my mouth. I used who i thought was town to narrow down who is most likly scum. Similar to what Zentor did. You say that im very sure your scum again. I dont have an amazing read on you. Havent i made that clear? Its that I put out who i think is town. And i have three people left and your the scummiest atm. I have nothing to fear about your flip. OMGUSing much. People as scum usually go on me for an easy mislynch. Often times I would exclude them as scum for who knows what reason but im trying to learn to use it to my advantage. As scum you find me an easy mislynch. Also i think that lynching you will give alot of information to the thread after you flip red. Then we can easily turn to Yamato or Z-Boson afterward and see whos next for scum. It will be interesting finding out if you tried to lynch your scum partner to make people think hes town or go the other way of WIFOM and say hes town so people think your trying ot make people look scummy. | ||
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On January 10 2013 06:18 MrZentor wrote: So do you guys want to kill Yamato or Dandel? I was planning on killing Yamato first, but recently Dandel has been spamming the thread with FIVE posts in a row. And it's getting kind of annoying. Hey Zentor Thoughts on the posts between dandel and me and Zbo and dandel? | ||
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On January 10 2013 06:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:  your thoughts i vants them | ||
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On January 10 2013 07:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty confident this Z is town. A lot of effort going over his past game. He seems to care a ton and isn't facerolling over this Dandel lynch -- wants to pursue other reads such as his evil twin brother Mr. Z. But yeah. I'm not convinced of Jays towniness, and still Mr. Z irks me. Scumteam still most likely two of the three Yamato / Jay / Dandel. I'll provide the hammer on any if y'all want. Becareful Z-Boson is actually especially good at making long thought out cases on people when he'sscum. So i would be hesitant to call it a townie trait. | ||
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On January 10 2013 07:32 MrZentor wrote: You seem to have misunderstood my post. Jay is just as strong a town read as everybody else is TO ME. But a lot of people think he's a shady character. Which is why I said that he isn't obviously townie. Which is also why I said that I might have to stop you guys from lynching him. ![[image loading]](http://www.awfuldeals.com/images/man.jpg) Did someone call? | ||
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On January 10 2013 07:50 Z-BosoN wrote: You mean this passage? Take a stance. Why are you not so sure about me, despite being fairly sure that dandel/yam are the scumteam? Yamata I don't know about. He did some decent posting recently. Dandel cause ShaioPi was being pretty darn scummy. And i don't get any townie vibe from his posting. I think that you could be scum. I already stated multiple times that I think the scum team is in between You(Z-Boson), Yamata and Dandel. I don't know if you scum or not. This lynch will give us some good info. And ill see who imma go for tmw you or Yamata. | ||
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On January 10 2013 09:38 Hapahauli wrote: Tell me why exactly a confirmed town should be rushed into voting? I dont know why maybe its just a weird feeling. But it wont it be weird for two lynches to go by and you don't vote. Put your vote where you suspicions lie. And can you stop calling your self confirmed town. It bugs me T_T Its not that we need ot rush this lynch. Its that its weird for you not to vote. As a someone that has done a good job of pushing him self forth as town. I remember a game once that this one particular scum did a great job of making himself look townie and people called him confirmed town all game. Then at LYLO they followed this guy's lynch and ended up killing a townie. Thinking that they had easily won the game till the night posts comes out and bam he was scum the entire time. I'm not saying your scum cause i have a town read on you. But plz dont over use this confirmed townie shit. Cause your not "Confirmed" your just doing a great job so everyone has a town read on you including me. And for Mr.Z On January 10 2013 09:53 MrZentor wrote: He just likes me because I know he's town. | ||
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On January 10 2013 09:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Wtf hapa is confirmed town. I friggen saved him from the NK Oh yea I forgot about that XD. | ||
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On January 10 2013 09:57 Hapahauli wrote: So you think MrZ is town because he things you're town? Thats part of it. But i also explained it a bit somewhere in my filter | ||
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On January 10 2013 03:41 jaybrundage wrote: I think i get his play style more. And I would go so far as to say that i think he is a townie. Part of it is his town read on me. And part of it is his reads in general. Also this devil may care attitude while risky seems to me like a townie that was florishing under Hapa's town read. I don't think that someone scummy who gets a town read would be quite so bold. | ||
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On January 10 2013 10:07 MrZentor wrote: Why is Hapa ignoring me? Maybe hes done with your trollish ways and hes breaking up with you | ||
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On January 10 2013 10:23 MrZentor wrote: Jay, what's up? I thought we were cool? Cause i wanted to fuck with cc so he cant hammer | ||
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On January 10 2013 10:23 Dandel Ion wrote: guys, jay just wants to keep me around for an easy mislynch tomorrow. Now he has the problem that he has to lynch somebody else first. I look forward to an explanation. No dont worry your not james bond you wont die another day... Your dying today XD | ||
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On January 10 2013 10:24 Dandel Ion wrote: Nah why would I know. I mean I'm town, but Y'all not seeing it so I rly don't know why. ANSWER THE SECOND QUESTION!!!! | ||
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On January 10 2013 10:28 Dandel Ion wrote: You can do it in 10 minutes too. Why in such a hurry. Do my words not please you? Do they not fit your agenda? Lol yea you say there are three scum OMG how you know?????? | ||
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On January 10 2013 10:30 Hapahauli wrote: And jay, if you think he's scum, vote him. I'm not going to have any of these shenanigans. I wanted to hammer tho D: ##Vote Dandel Ion | ||
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On January 10 2013 10:43 Dandel Ion wrote: You deserve to die for being so useless. You think your play is anywhere near acceptable? Man.... The real question is if your town is why are you doing so poorly as to get lynched : / | ||
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On January 10 2013 11:40 Z-BosoN wrote: prob jay, someone you've been passing off as a top scumread for questionable reasons and didn't discuss, same person who pointed fingers at hapa, a confirmed town, for not having a vote in any lynch. Do you think scum would forget hapa got shot and was saved by doctor? | ||
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On January 10 2013 11:52 Z-BosoN wrote: The fact that you are mentioning this is indicative that you were thinking about using this as an argument when you went after CC. What? You're not making sense.. | ||
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On January 10 2013 13:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: No need Yamato we've got the scumteam wrapped up in fine linen for us. Yea this is terrible thinking. Hapa is right. We need to have lots of conversation and try to catch scum. Plz explain your read on me. Im not scum and i would like to be given an opportunity to prove it. | ||
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On January 10 2013 15:38 yamato77 wrote: Moving forward, I think the best plan of action is to sit on the assumption that we can lynch Zentor at any point, and hunt for either his scum mate, or in the small likelihood that he's actually town, find the real scum. We can lynch anyone at anypoint. If it's very unlikely that hes town then why wouldn't you just lynch him? You should always lynch your best scum read. Never ever save a lynch for later on someone you think is scum. | ||
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On January 10 2013 16:46 yamato77 wrote: There's always the possibility that Zentor is town, isn't there? I mean we just saw a townie self-destruct yesterday. I agree he is probably scum, but even if he is I think the better move is to sit on the idea for at least a few hours. If you disagree, I want to know how you're so certain he'll flip. Im not really certain about anything at this point. We still have a similar pool to lynch in but I have added Zentor to that lynch. I'm not as sure as i was about him as before. His im not going to post crap was dumb to say the least. | ||
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On January 10 2013 17:19 yamato77 wrote: Let me ask you this, what before that point in time made you think he was town? It's really easy to point to that post and go "scum". Your read beforehand must have been pretty weak. After Dandel flipped I was kinda shocked and knew that I had to reevaluate my reads. I been thinking about the recent events and decided that Zentor could very possibly be scum given how hes been playing. It wasn't a great read on him. One that I think was wrong. Partly it was deference on Hapa's meta assertion. Part that he had a town read on me. And partly that our reads were similar. Also not gonna lie tho he's trolly sometimes I think hes a funny guy and I think that is possible a sub-conscience reason why i viewed him as town and why i was joking around with him a bit. Zentor I think that Zentor should be our next lynch. I have been going over his filter again and would like to show some posts that I think indicate that hes scum. First off hes been pushing for quick days this entire time as scum. On January 06 2013 08:42 MrZentor wrote: Can we kill somebody tomorrow? I want more information. Not even caring who we kill. On January 07 2013 04:49 MrZentor wrote: But we can kill somebody today, right? On January 07 2013 05:09 MrZentor wrote: Hapa, can we kill somebody today? Yamato is as good a lynch as any. On January 07 2013 05:13 MrZentor wrote: Then can we kill Xatalos today? This little gem On January 07 2013 08:08 MrZentor wrote: ##Unvote: ##Vote: Xatalos HAMMER HIM HAMMER HIM HAMMER HIM On January 09 2013 07:05 MrZentor wrote: Also, Hapa, there's really no point in drawing this day out. It's getting kind of obvious who the scum are. Pushing fast lynches again. Wants to lynch Yamato really badly or ShaioPi. I think Given this if Zentor flips scum then Yamato is in the clear. On January 09 2013 10:22 MrZentor wrote: Hapa, you're being FAR too cautious. Yamato is clearly scum, so is ShaioPi. Nobody was killed last night. We can take one risk. (If you consider lynching scum while his scum buddy is gone a risk) PLEEAAAAAASSSEEEEEE Here he gives reasoning why his action isnt scummy. To take suspicion off him self before hand. On January 05 2013 07:21 MrZentor wrote: I will use my hammer vote as soon as I possibly can. It's unlikely that scum will want to have the final vote on somebody, because it will put them under a lot of scrutiny. Again giving reasons him wanting to be the Hammer vote isn't scummy. Why would he be so self conscience of it unless he was scum. On January 05 2013 08:21 MrZentor wrote: I didn't say I would join a bandwagon with any good reason. I said I would be the final vote in the lynching of somebody. And scum wouldn't make a post like that. The easiest thing for them to do is recycle reasons while adding a few pointless one of their owns for joining a bandwagon. Also, mafia wouldn't want to have the hammer vote. Again he mentions do things scum would never do. Hes setting him self up to get away with scummy actions. Also he promises more content as time goes on but never really delivers. On January 05 2013 08:25 MrZentor wrote: 1. I make myself so easy to read by doing a lot of things mafia would be hesitant to do, things that are so obviously scummy that mafia have a lot of difficulty actually doing them. Look at the first day in Witchcraft Mafia for an example. 2. I get more active and generally create more content as time goes on and town gets more information. Again, I'd like to cite Witchcraft Mafia as an example. He makes this post 4 people confirmed town Keep in mind this was early in day 1. Why would he go and call people confirmed town. What would make him so confident in his reads to go so far as call someone confirmed town. Also note that he included him self in the list even tho he hasn't done any real scum hunting or much of anything townie for that matter. Also note his pushing to end the day faster. On January 06 2013 11:52 MrZentor wrote: We have four confirmed townies so far. MrZentor, Hapa, DP, and Jay So I'd be fine with killing any of the others really. I just want to get to the second day already. When someone questions him on his town reads. And why hes so confident in them. he comes back with that he is right. They were all confirmed town. How could he be so confident unless he knows more then the regular townie would. He would know if he was scum. On January 06 2013 12:40 MrZentor wrote: I am actually right. They are all confirmed town. And your definition of what's "scummy" is really messed up. He puts up a list of people of suspects. 3 of whom are confirmed town. Given this lynch I think that it will help yamato alot if Zentor flips red. As i dont think that Zentor was pushing his scumbuddy. Also note that in his lynch chart both Xatalos and Shiaopi ended up being town. On January 07 2013 02:34 MrZentor wrote: The four main suspects are Mr. CC, Shiaopi, Yamato, and Xatalos. Mr. CC + Show Spoiler + He's probably town, and there are two main reasons for me to think that. 1. He's carefree and open, especially during the opening of the game. On January 04 2013 12:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Mr.Z we're masoned you dummy. ShiaoPi obv scum right? On January 05 2013 10:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hey yeah yeah yeah Hey yeah, I said HEY! What's going on?! Home from my shift and such. Reading the shitfest that is DP-Hapa (kind of sounds like a porno) interaction atm and catching up. Questions, people, questions. Anyone? On January 05 2013 12:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Oh hey Hapa whats up. I need someone to talk to. Wanna cuddle? What you think of Yamato going full retard right now? 2. Two of the other suspects targeted him early in the game. Although it is possible one of them was faking this aggression, it is unlikely, because of all the risks that come with it. If the scum faking aggression toward Mr.CC gets lynched and doesn't do a good job of faking it, then it will be obvious that Mr. CC is scum with him. On January 05 2013 12:37 yamato77 wrote: Do people really think it was that difficult to understand what I said? Anyway CC your case is bad and I think you're faking this read. I don't think Xatalos is that scummy, but he is an easy target. CC is scummy. ##Vote: Mr Cheesecake Mr. Cheesecake Who was he again? I only remembered him after rereading the thread a couple of times. He hasn't actually taken stances on anything that matters (not counting obvious stuff like "we should lynch the scummiest player"). What I'm most worried about is his complete lack of presence - he's basically casually lurking without being too obvious. I'm unwilling to judge him yet, but he isn't looking good so far. From Xatalos. It is possible that he is scum with ShiaoPi, but I find this unlikely considering his early game behavior. Yamato + Show Spoiler + His early game play seems a lot like an earnest, noobie townie. On January 04 2013 16:41 yamato77 wrote: I'm not sure how the logic is strange. You told me it was difficult to think in IRC because there was no time. You advocate making longer, more thought out decisions in this game because of the instant lynch mechanic. I don't know why you guys think this is a big deal. On January 04 2013 17:32 yamato77 wrote: What is disproportionate responsibility? I think there's plenty of reason to give the hammer more look than other votes. It is the act of making the decision to lynch someone, it makes the player into the executioner. The use of the hammer vote is perhaps the most important thing in this game. You said so yourself and now you seem to disagree with me? Why? On January 06 2013 00:06 yamato77 wrote: I will admit I'm not paying as much attention to this game as I should. Honestly my vote on CC was to get a better read on him. Up to that point I thought he was a bit scummy so I figured his reaction to me voting for him out of nowhere might reveal to me his alignment. It turns out it didn't, but some of the things he has said since then have swayed my opinion. I'm fairly confident in Hapa being town, so as far as active scum I don't think there are any. Jay is the only one I would question because his posts have a quality that makes them seem quiet, almost like his opinion isn't something to be valued. Is he scum trying to stay under the radar or just a weak townie? No I'm much more inclined to think a scum lies between Mr Zentor and Rise. Zentor hasn't contributed much besides a lot of setup talk and town reads. His filter is low content, low profile, very much like I think the scum are this game. Rise simply hasn't posted much since the beginning if the game and it is starting to make me question his motivations. Also, the way he pushes me makes me think he's a noob townie. I would expect newer players to think I'm scum, because of a lot of the things I do are obviously scummy. On January 06 2013 17:58 yamato77 wrote: Mr Zentor He's only given a lot of town reads and acted impatient about lynching people. His filter is full of one liners that provide little reasoning for what he wants to do this game aside from Lynch people. He seems more preoccupied with there being a lynch than who is going to be lynched. He hasn't helped town find who they should lynch, either. Hapa says he's a bored townie but he looks like a scum just waiting for an excuse to hammer a townie lynch. Xatalos + Show Spoiler + He is pretty uptight, but he makes some good points in his massive cases; he and ShiaoPi are equally likely to be scum. Well, for starters, I think you're most likely town. I can't believe a Mafia would outpost everyone in the thread and engage in every possible topic. Does that make DarthPunk Mafia in my eyes? Not really. I agree with many things he says, and his filter just reads fairly townish to me - this post for example: In any case, I'm pretty satisfied with your responses. Your counter-arguments to my (pretty weak) arguments for your scumminess are what I'd expect from a townie: calm, collected, reasonable. Combined with Hapahauli's recommendation to wait on you, I don't see you as a good lynch at the moment. Welcome, Z-Boson! I'm glad you're being very townish and contributive so far, which means we have one less player out of the lynching table (I didn't like lynching RiseAgain either, but this is a much easier judgement than that). ShiaoPi + Show Spoiler + Either he or Xatalos is scum, I'm not sure which. It's pretty unlikely that they're both scum, considering how they both made cases on why the other is scum. He parks his vote on a lurker. On January 05 2013 12:14 ShiaoPi wrote: Hmm looks like RiseAgain has still not responded.... Anyway moving onto the matters more at hand for now. I don't think that DP or Hapa are scum, it feels much more like townies at each others throats for minor things. While I can see where both are coming from during the exchange I does kind of worry me that DP does not follow up with a vote as Hapa does. Does not seem to fit when he calls him scum more than once earlier. @Mr.CC Xatalos is kind of a lynchbait in itself. He is not that easy to read (at least for me), but what I have seen so far from him does not really convince me on his scumminess. From time to time he does these 180-turns but usually it is because he lays his entire thoughtprocess out and therefore every nook and turn of his mind is in the thread. He is nullish right now. I want to see more from RiseAgain, so ##Vote: RiseAgain get in here and do something please! But he also waffles over Xatalos, which makes me think he could be town. On January 06 2013 17:15 ShiaoPi wrote: Okay finally got some time to give out some thoughts. First off welcome Z-Boson, good to have a active replacement! Moving on to some housekeeping: DP's reactions since I was gone seem to me pretty townie, by extension Hapa seems town as well with the entire thoughtprocess behind tunneling being revealed. So I am retracting my scum-leaning read that I had on DP earlier. I am interested currently in these people: yamato Xatalos MrZ yamato: There are many things which would probably be me reiterating stuff that was mentioned (discrepancy in behaviour as hapa said). Not being really present, throwing votes around with little reasoning. But that can be explained by his lack of time due to RL business. could really use more analysis and reasoning from him. Xatalos: I said earlier that Xatalos is a lynchbait. That is because he is hesitating a lot, laying out a lot of his thoughts in the thread and therefore opening himself up for harsh critique if he changes his mind and posts it. His lack of any stance is alarming though. While it is somewhat just his playstyle (IIRC) I still dislike it a lot, I mean day 1 has been going for quite a long time now already, while we did not get more information through lynching there is still a lot of content to search through and find something. MrZ: He is useless, which is stupidly just his meta with the lightheartedness he has shown. I don't like useless people but cannot condemn him based on this. Actually I started this post with wanting to lynch into Xata/yamato preferrably yamato but now that I am writing those reads feel just unsatisfying...There is nothing really much that distinguishes one option from the other. I am reluctant to lynch yamato since he seems legitimately busy, also relcutant to lynch Xata for just playing as he does (same goes for MrZ). Somehow this day 1 has not been really productive >_> Who we should lynch. + Show Spoiler + I don't know which one we should lynch, but I know what we should do if each one is lynched. .....................................Xatalos.................................................................................................Shiaopi............ ................................../.....................\........................................................................................./..........\............ ........................flips scum..........flips town..................................................................flips scum.....flips town........................... ...........................|............................|............................................................................./...............................\.................................. ......find scum partner..............lynch Shia.....................................................lynch MrCC..............lynch Xatalos-.flips.scum ..... ................................................../............\....................................................../..................\..............................|........................| .....................................flips town......flips scum.............................flips scum............flips town...........flips town.......find scum ....................................|.................................|.....................................|............................|........................../.......................partner ...start suspecting people......................lynch MrCC....................win..............start suspecting people.................... ...like Hapa and Boson............................/...............\.........................................like Hapa and Boson ..........................................................flips scum.......flips town........................................................................................... ........................................................./............................|................................................................... ....................................................win...................start suspecting people..................................... ............................................................................like Hapa and Boson..................................... Not caring if we mislynched day 1 On January 07 2013 09:23 MrZentor wrote: Everybody's panicking because we didn't lynch scum first day. lolololololol He shows that he doesnt want to scum hunt at night. There is no town motive for this only a scum one. On January 08 2013 07:53 MrZentor wrote: The night is when you party. Day is for scumhunting. Here he gives off his town read on me with no reasoning. He knows I'm Town cause hes scum. On January 09 2013 06:03 MrZentor wrote: Also, guys, Jay is town. He again he puts him self as confirmed town when he hasn't done anything to prove it,.. On January 09 2013 06:12 MrZentor wrote: Confirmed town Hapahauli MrZentor Mr. CheeseCake Most Probably Town jaybrundage DarthPunk I Hate to Think He's Town, but He Probably Is Z-Boson Scum yamato77 ShiaoPi It's pretty simple. Im going to have a part two as for the things that tipped me off recently that make me think that hes scum. | ||
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Zentorpt2 This was the beginning of my scum read on Zentor. How would he know im town.. We already have two claimed blues. No parity cop. How is he so confident in his read. He would only "know" that I'm town if he was scum. On January 10 2013 09:53 MrZentor wrote: He just likes me because I know he's town. Also looking at this im surprised that no one else find this to be scummy. When asked by Dandel Ion how many mislynchs Zentor thinks he can get away with. Zentor responds with two or three. HE KNEW IT WAS A MISLYNCH. HE DIDN'T EVEN ACT LIKE HE THOUGHT DANDEL WAS SCUM. Also he states THAT WHEN HAPA CATCHES ON THAT HES PLAYING DIFFERENTLY THIS GAME THEN LAST GAME. HE WILL GET CAUGHT..... HE IS PRACTICALLY CLAIMING SCUM HERE. On January 10 2013 10:30 MrZentor wrote: Ermm...two? Maybe? Or three? I don't know; there are too many variables. Like when Hapa catches on to the fact that I'm playing differently than last game. :/ Here again he hard defends me with out knowing my role.. On January 10 2013 11:13 MrZentor wrote: Mr. CC, Jay isn't scum. Then he makes this little post which makes no damn sense. If someone is pushing a mafia objective then they are likly mafia how can he even get away with saying this. Then he makes this claim about not posting and "trusting the town" but drops it when Hapa says he will policy lynch him if he does that. There would be no town motive for proposing what he did. I think that he got the vibe of the thread of not lynching people for doing stuff that scum would never do. He has been running with this idea all game. So he decided to make a risky play that would lead to a second mislynch. But he drops when Hapa shoots it down. This is the part that gets me "something a scum would never do" He has been trying to pull of the too scummy to be scum crap all game and hes been getting away with it too. On January 10 2013 11:33 MrZentor wrote: Killing people for pushing mafia objective might be the worst way to scum hunt. On January 10 2013 11:56 MrZentor wrote: Just because it is WIFOM doesn't mean it isn't useful for proving I'm not scum. I would explain why, but you can just read through my Witchcraft Mafia filter for an explanation. c: And, if I were scum, that's exactly what I would do. I would pretend to scumhunt. But I'm going to do something much, much more difficult. I'm going to not post, at all. I'm going to resist that temptation. Because a scum would, before getting lynched, spam the thread with their "scumhunting" in a desperate attempt at not getting lynched. I'm going to prove I'm town by trusting your choice of a lynch, something a scum would never be able to do. I think you (deep down) know I'm town, so I would suggest you lynch Yamato. I hope you make the right decision, Hapa. Thats my case on Zentor he just made a big post but im wiped out atm. I stand by the assertation that hes scum. And I wouldn't want to lynch anyone else tmw. I think that i have done a good job of proving it and I believe that Z-Boson is his partner but we will cross that bridge when we get to it. For Tmw we have to lynch Zentor. Thoughts? | ||
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On January 11 2013 08:37 Hapahauli wrote: From 'da phone =O I didn't read any of Jay's case, but something's really strange about his ability to bomb such a giant case with such conviction given how unsure he was yesterday. FU Hapa read my gawd damn case | ||
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On January 11 2013 08:38 MrZentor wrote: And you read mine, Jay. It might explain to you why I know you're town. You say that the way most people scum hunt is bad. But your scumhunting has given us two mislynchs and would have been three if We dont stop you :o. You dont know for sure that im town you could have a town read on me but you dont say that. I could just be a great scum player like WBG. I think your scum Zentor. So gonna have to lynch ya :o | ||
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On January 11 2013 08:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I say we lynch Jay off the island because I don't much care for him. Mr. Z pisses me off, but he's got style. CC you havent been giving much on the post side of things : ( can you read my case and give some thoughts about it plz | ||
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On January 11 2013 08:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: @Jay Who is Mr. Z's scumbuddy? Go. Z-Boson i said this in my case | ||
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On January 11 2013 08:47 MrZentor wrote: Hapa is dying tonight. He should tell us to kill Yamato before he dies. How do you know hapa is dying? Ohhh yea cause you sent in the PM got ya. | ||
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Yamato doesnt make any sense as Zentor as been pushing him sense day one. So that leaves Z-Boson. Also CC you not giving your thoughts on my case only limits discussion. The more we talk the better read you can have on me. Dont have a confirmation bias on me. As its only gonna make you mislynch me. | ||
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On January 11 2013 08:53 MrZentor wrote: I'm sorry if I have common sense. There's no reason to not kill him; he's by far the most active and helpful of the confirmed towns. Y u so paranoid, bro?? Its not that i dont like you Zentor. But you scum bro : ( | ||
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On January 11 2013 08:57 Z-BosoN wrote: Dude, what is wrong about wanting feedback from a confirmed townie? I have my own opinions and wanting to discuss them and hear your thoughts is not "seeking approval". Read my scum filter in Hero, where I "seeked approval" from marv and see the difference of what I understand to be your point. Im going to read over these last few pages later when I get back, but as it seems, it looks a hell of a lot like Jay decided to bus. mr.Z was townie to him all game along, and suddenly it's his strongest scumread. I don't see yamato being scum really, so that's what's left. I will reevaluate tomorrow though, when I'm better informed. Heading off for reals now Thats utter bullshit. He has not been a town read to me for most of the game. Its just been this last part of the game. That i have begin to had a town read on him. DON'T TRY TO TWIST MY POSTS TO SET UP UP FOR A MISLYNCH. Here i call Zentor scummy for calling people confirmed town. And again for not caring who he wanted to lynch. On January 06 2013 12:09 jaybrundage wrote: Your wrong no one is a confirmed town. Don't start throwing the term around either. Thats honeslty pretty damn scummy. Plz who do you wanna lynch today not careing who gets lynch is also scummy Again me wanting to lynch Zenter cause he mislynched and didnt really care again no town read. On January 07 2013 10:48 jaybrundage wrote: Im most annoyed that Zentor didn't really care about who he was mislynching. Frustrating imo. We had unlimited amounts of time to get scum. But instead cause hes impatient he wants to push things along and lynch a townie. I almost wanna policy lynch him cause i hate his meta so much It was only around day 2 that I began to see Zentor as a town read. So dont spout crap. | ||
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On January 11 2013 09:18 MrZentor wrote: Also, jay, you know you're town. Boson, Yamato, Mr. CC, and DP think you're scum. If I voted for you, like you're voting for me, you would die, and I would live. As scum, why wouldn't I be pushing for your lynch, especially when making sure you don't get lynched increases my own chance of getting lynched? It doesn't make any sense. Please reconsider your read on me. <3 hmmmm. So you propose a Z-Boson, Yamato scum team eh... I dont know... You have done some realllllly scummy things. Yamato hasn't posted who he would vote for yet. And i dont think DP has either. Isn't it 4 to lynch tho tmw? | ||
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On January 11 2013 10:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I'm going to sheep Hap and say lynch Yamato tomorrow. GET ON THE HAPA TRAIN ALLLLLLL ABBOAAAAARRRRRRDDDDDDDD But i agree that Mr.Z has done a great job FINALLY coming thru. Another thing we should look up, Is why the lynch on Yamato got diverted in the first place. | ||
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On January 11 2013 10:50 DarthPunk wrote: HIya. So I just read the last 5 pages. Things I learnt. Mr Z is town. Yamato is town. Therefore I am calling a Jay Z-Boson scum team. Zb is a difficult person to push. There is nothing blatantly scummy in his filter, and he has done well to promote an appearance of usefulness. Really well. But my town reads on MR Z and yamato are more solid than my read on ZB and by process of elimination he must be scum. Im not scum. Lets agree to lynch Z-Boson tho. | ||
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On January 11 2013 10:53 DarthPunk wrote: As for J. He has always been scummy in my eyes. But I was trying my best to wait and see with him as he was called lynchbait by hapa. He has done less than MR Z and Yamato to convince me he is green. Also his backflip on MR Z was fucking amazing and to me read as disingenuous. DP if you think im scum why have i viewed Z-Boson as scummy for most of this game? I didn't hard push him cause as you say there isn't really anything profoundly scummy in his filter. But if you look thru my filter i have been soft pushing him as scum this whole game. | ||
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This post made me rethink my read On January 11 2013 09:18 MrZentor wrote: Also, jay, you know you're town. Boson, Yamato, Mr. CC, and DP think you're scum. If I voted for you, like you're voting for me, you would die, and I would live. As scum, why wouldn't I be pushing for your lynch, especially when making sure you don't get lynched increases my own chance of getting lynched? It doesn't make any sense. Please reconsider your read on me. <3 | ||
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On January 11 2013 10:56 MrZentor wrote: I love how fickle Jay is. But I hope you guys don't try to lynch him for it. -.- Sometimes you have to not hold your reads to tight. And let new information shape them. Going after CC helped me realize that. Also Hapa's post about you not being mafia also helped. I'm also sure that Z-Boson is on the scum team. Because as i said before i cant see a Mr.Zentor/Yamata scum team. | ||
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On January 11 2013 10:59 Hapahauli wrote: Well, final answer. Z-Bo, Yamato GG GL HF Is that your FINAL ANSWER? | ||
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On January 11 2013 11:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: So mad right now, can't see sarcasm Cheesecake so whos your two scum atm | ||
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##Vote Z-Boson Up to DP for the hammer now. | ||
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On January 11 2013 12:15 yamato77 wrote: Everything else in the game is WIFOM but the N1 NK aimed at the towniest player in the game is meaningful. Okay CC. Question Why are you hard defending Zbo? | ||
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On January 11 2013 12:23 MrZentor wrote: DP, are you around? BTW Zentor Great thought out post to make me think your town again :D You scummy bastard you. :D | ||
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On January 11 2013 12:30 DoYouHas wrote: +1 cohost flattery point to Mr. Cheesecake Damn I wanted thatAhem* DoYouHas I think your an attractive individual and an all around cool guy... :D | ||
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On January 11 2013 13:32 DarthPunk wrote: eh. This could be terrible. But ##Vote: Z-boson Here's hoping I don't fuck it up into my first loss as town. How many times have you played mafia in general also how many times were you scum/town | ||
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On January 11 2013 14:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Although I will admit I thought Z-Bo was the towniest of the 4 remaining players :p Yea hes good at scum. Thats why i was supscious of him. He played similar to last game. He didnt do anything overly scummy. But he didnt actually do much for town either | ||
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On January 12 2013 04:17 yamato77 wrote: If I had been there during Dandel's lynch I might have defended him just to increase Zentor's paranoia about the both of us. Hapa I'm sorry I did what I did this game. I have great respect for you as a player but I had to be so stupid you would never believe I was scum. It almost worked. Yea I didnt think you were scum. I always had a feel with Z-Boson as being scum. Its is just really hard to implement a good case as he does a good job of not doing anything scummy. Thats why i went with the Zentor/Z-Boson scum team. Till Zentor showed some good logic as to why it didnt make any sense. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 12 2013 04:25 Z-BosoN wrote: You and your gut reads I wonder what it'll be like when I'm town haha Nawww ill prolly just assume your scum and policy lynch ya | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 12 2013 04:28 Hapahauli wrote: No worries! And I'm sorry for basically cursing you out at several points in the game >> I really didn't think your confrontational attitude would translate over to your scum-game, but now I know =O See hapa dont lynch best mislynch na and win game. Althought i think Zentor was trying really hard to win my title : ( | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 12 2013 09:52 DarthPunk wrote: Also. That was my 10th win in a row. WOOT! thanks hapa for the last 2. DP got carried | ||
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