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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 07 2013 22:55 GMT
#701
Two Rules for Tomorrow:
1) Do not rush the lynch! Day should be 48 hours minimum.
2) Talk! Ask questions for god sakes!


Take time to consider the lynch tomorrow. Patience is very key in these situations - quick, emotional swings (like Day 1) are likely to be disasters for town.

Also, I am basically 33% of this game in terms of content. If I get shot and townies decide not to step up to the plate to lead discussion, it's game over.

Lastly, if no NK happens tomorrow, you can probably assume that there is a doctor and he/she made a hero save. In that case, the named townie should most definitely claim (if there is one).



People that are likely TOWN

Mr.CC - He's town. I did find that one post of his questionable, but outside of that, he's behaving really really townie. He doesn't care about suspicion on him, and that's not a scum reaction. Hell that's not a reaction that scum can easily fake. Context for gods sakes. As a side note, the CC suspicion is coming together far too easily for my tastes. It feels like mafia are either pushing it or just letting it happen.

MrZ - Much the same as CC. Doesn't give a shit about suspicion on him. He's town.



People that need looking into

DP - I'm disappointed at the lurkiness, but I keep going back to his "Fuck you" vote on Jay, which I see as townie. That's not a natural scum reaction to being under pressure. DP is a capable scum-player though, and he is good at faking emotion. The lurkiness scares me, but I doubt he's scum.

Z-Boson - He's slightly town on behavior, since he did more scum-hunting in his first hour in the thread than most people have done all game. He is a rather capable scum-player though, so I think there's a chance here.

Yamato - Very uncharacteristically inactive, and there's some sketchy logic in his filter. There are things that make me lean town on him (his OMGUS vote on me when I was tunneling him is extremely brave for a potential scum). However, there are things that make me lean scum on him (his hammer on Xatalos and his seeming trust of MrZ). Very null here due to his inactivity. Be worried if he doesn't post more in the following cycle.

Jay - I don't like his tunnel on CC, nor do I like some of the actions in his filter. Examples include:
1) His interactions with DP early in the thread. He was attacking DP in a very scummy manner when I was tunneling DP.
2) Very wide array of suspicions post-Xalatos lynch. He seems to be flinging a lot of shit in the way of Yamato and MrZ (even Shaio pre-lynch) despite being "convinced" that Mr.CC is scum.
3) His general attitude on DP is very strange. When I called DP town, Jay initially refused to back down on his scum read on DP. I don't think he's mentioned a read on DP since.
My general hesitancy on him is that he's lynch-bait.

ShaioPi - I've seen Shaio inactive in the early game as town on occasions. Often he feels "overwhelmed" by large #'s of players and prefers a smaller setting (as was the case in Mafia LVII early game). However, when he's town amongst a smaller group of players, he is a very capable scum-hunter and isn't afraid to take control.

The endgame of Mafia LVII is a great example of him taking control, as well as his stellar performance throughout GSL II Mini.

In this game, he's done the following:
1) Light pressure on RiseAgain
2) Questioning DP's scumread on myself
3) OMGUS vote on Xatalos

That's far less than I would expect from a townie Shaio.



As far as scum #2 goes, I'm far far less sure. Put a gun to my head and I'd say Jay. But he's lynch-bait so eh.

However, I highly highly doubt that a town ShaioPi would be this useless in a 9-player game. Give him 48 hours tomorrow to post. If he does not shit scumhunting rainbows into the thread, or if he doesn't give you a really really good reason to make you think he's town, he's scum and needs to be lynched. Period.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 07 2013 22:56 GMT
#702
Bye Hapa.

RIP and all that.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 07 2013 22:57 GMT
#703
Though I guess it's possible you're not going to die.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 07 2013 22:57 GMT
#704
For emphasis: you're all retards if you decide to lynch CC tomorrow.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
January 07 2013 23:00 GMT
#705

[image loading]


Day 2





The British Empire is silent as the halls of the capitol ring with the stately tolling of the bell. It is daybreak, and all is well. Disaster is silent and the insurrection, for now, is not a problem. King William IV sleeps soundly.




Welcome to Day 2. This Day ends instantly when a majority is reached to lynch.

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 07 2013 23:00 GMT
#706
Woohoo!
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2013 23:01 GMT
#707
Dat doctor brah
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 07 2013 23:02 GMT
#708
@ ShaioPi

You have 48 hours to show me that you're town.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 07 2013 23:02 GMT
#709
It would be safe to assume we have one of these setups.

A) 1 Ungrateful Rebel Cell, 1 Foreign Saboteur Network, 1 Royal Navy, 1 Oxford University, 5 Loyal Colonial Governors

C) 2 Ungrateful Rebel Cells, 1 House of Parliament, 1 Oxford University, 5 Loyal Colonial Governors
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 07 2013 23:05 GMT
#710
And once somebody claims to have been roleblocked,
Or after a little while of nobody claiming to have been roleblocked,
We'll which one it is.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 07 2013 23:05 GMT
#711
know^
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2013 23:06 GMT
#712
Scum could easily fake claim being roleblocked btw. So its not fool proof.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 07 2013 23:06 GMT
#713
So ideally, today I want to be able to sit back and observe. That would involve one or more townies taking control of the discussion, asking questions, and pursuing scum-reads.

I don't want to be the guy forcing things. I'm obv-town at this point, and there's no point in establishing my townie-ness any further.

If you're town, today is the day for you to show it.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 07 2013 23:09 GMT
#714
Well we know for a fact that scum know the setup and blues. Given this, the named VT out there needs to claim (if there is one). Parity cop obviously shouldn't claim.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 07 2013 23:10 GMT
#715
We know the setup depending on Roleblock claims. Soooooo. If you were roleblocked claim.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 07 2013 23:11 GMT
#716
On January 08 2013 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
Well we know for a fact that scum know the setup and blues. Given this, the named VT out there needs to claim (if there is one). Parity cop obviously shouldn't claim.


Why should anyone claim when we can know the setup from roleblocks?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2013 23:11 GMT
#717
Hapa I'm interested in hearing more about your accusations against Shiao because I definitely do not share your opinion of him.

A lot of people have been inactive this game, what about his inactivity is special?

His OMGUS deal with Xatalos didn't seem that scummy to me. I defended him after all.

Substantiate the case, if you will.
Writer@WriterYamato
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
January 07 2013 23:11 GMT
#718
Sorry guys, took longer than I expected, traffic was a slut. I'm glad no one died.
Hapa are you here?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 07 2013 23:13 GMT
#719
On January 08 2013 08:11 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa I'm interested in hearing more about your accusations against Shiao because I definitely do not share your opinion of him.

A lot of people have been inactive this game, what about his inactivity is special?

His OMGUS deal with Xatalos didn't seem that scummy to me. I defended him after all.

Substantiate the case, if you will.


Substantiate your town read on him. Also tell me who you'd lynch over him and why? I'll answer when you finish things.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 07 2013 23:14 GMT
#720
On January 08 2013 08:11 Z-BosoN wrote:
Sorry guys, took longer than I expected, traffic was a slut. I'm glad no one died.
Hapa are you here?


Yep. Need your thoughts and stuffs. I'm rather disappointed that you didn't post anything last night, especially since you were a plausible NK target (with everyone thinking you are town and whatnot).
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