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If I read you right, Mocsta, you are 100% sure that Spag's mafia, but still want to take out jampi instead because he might be the other scum and that would make it easier to sort out the last scum lynch?
I think you are looking too closely for associations before we have the lynch. I am much more certain about Spag than I am about jampi, probably because I just spent three hours in his filter. I've read Syl's and OE's cases on jampi, read his filter, and am going to go look for your case on him, Mocsta, but I still don't feel as confident. If we're wrong about Spag we need to know now (although I don't think we're wrong), or else all of town's assumptions for the rest of the game could be disastrous.
If that means Spag today and then a jampi/zare showdown tomorrow, that's fine, but I think you're excluding too many possibilities. I am going with my number one read, and I think you should as well.
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What do you mean about how switching to Spag would be a lot of WIFOM? Do you mean that my case had Wine In Front of Me logic, or that switching would involve it, or that Spag's behavior has had it?
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EBWOP: That Q was for OE.
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Good point. I hope Syl throws down with us soon so we can get to 4 first, at least.
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We need a cop claim pronto or else we need to switch onto jampi last minute. On a tablet out and about, but will monkitor thread. Also, can't mafia counter claim now to ensure a detective lynch on spag?
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Here's a thought... why is it so easy to lynch jampi?
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Honestly that's the only explanation for his day 1 vote that makes any sense. I sure hope temil is not the cop
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If it is jampi and temil, how behinf are we for lynching spag? It becomes yloyl or whatever tomorrow.
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there,s only two scenarios that even have a cop.
Only 1 where there is also role block, right? Playing the numbers with no real defense.
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If oe was jkd and there's no mafia roleblocker he'd know there's no cop.
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And how is he so sure about temil scum but not oe? I say go with lynch. At worst we have a confirmed townie going into lylo
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Better to be wrong about spag than jampi. If were wrong about spag we have confirmed town, if wrong about jampi we still don't know what to do about cop claim. I say if jampi flips town, jk should not block spag to see if scum go after him. Also how is he sure that he is to be mnemosyne with a roleblocker in the game. Lynch spag for answers to this crazy game
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Crap. Thought that was such a great case, too. Gg, sorry for killing you
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Biggest issue now is a replaced temil
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Why are we suddenly reading up on Sylencia and OE when the Last Will And Testament of Mr. Spag was that Jampi and TeMiL were scum?
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If a JK and an RB role block each other, do they both receive notifications?
In the above scenario, if the RB is also the mafia's kill targeter and he happens to target the JK, does the kill happen successfully?
The OP confuses me in this scenario between "Roleblockers roleblocking each other will roleblock both of them." and "All successful roleblocks will result in the target being notified."
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Thanks to Dandel Ion, I feel very confident in confirming Mocsta as town. It's possible that he was the RBer but WASN'T the one to kill Omni, but that would be impossible because TeMiL was replaced and then NOT replaced.
So either Jampi or Syl.
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Um, who do you think is mafia and why? I don't know, I haven't seen a real compelling case for Syl as mafia.
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jampi, I'm less interested in the fact you supposedly think Syl is scum simply because you are NOT, and more interested in how you would persuade me and Mocsta that Syl is scum.
I find it more likely that you helped push a StriX lynch along when Mocsta asked you to look at him, and TeMiL voted for you when it was clear you wouldn't be lynched and you could create distance between yourselves. It is the only conceivable reason I can think of for TeMiL randomly voting for you in that way (although I could think of no conceivable reason that he needed us to tell him what countries we were from, either.)
As has been said, you've never even mentioned TeMiL, most of your posts are summaries or weak defenses for your non participation, and reading Syl's filter, I just don't see the case for him being mafia.
If you can go through his filter and give me a compelling read as to how he is scum, I will switch my vote. But until then, I am voting for you.
##Vote: jampidampi
Note that because you've reached 2 votes before Syl will, even if Mocsta thinks that Syl is mafia, you will still be lynched. You have to persuade me that Syl is mafia, not that you are not mafia, or else you will be lynched.
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EBWOP: Didn't see your analysis until after I posted that. I'll look over it, but I think it would benefit you to come up with more rigorous and specific argumentation.
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