EPTRad just made what has to be the scummiest play thus far this game. I showed earlier that his reaction to my joke post about voting Oats for a previous game could be a scum move (would like to note that I find it interesting that it was in regards to Oats, because as things currently are Oats and Rad are extremely scummy and it seems Oats started a shit wagon on me (as I pointed out earlier based on blatant lies)) and now Rad just hoped on in the most obviously scummy way.
Earlier we had an exchange of posts,
On December 04 2012 11:11 Rad wrote:
You're down for lynching strictly based on his play from last game (where he was town) rather than scum hunting and lynching your biggest scum read? What exactly do you expect to get from this?
You're down for lynching strictly based on his play from last game (where he was town) rather than scum hunting and lynching your biggest scum read? What exactly do you expect to get from this?
That is him trying to form an easy wagon, though he quickly has to drop it because I am too hasty to point out that I clearly stated it was a joke.
On December 04 2012 11:16 Rad wrote:
@kick sorry missed the jkjk =/ I'm quick to jump on shit ideas ^^
@kick sorry missed the jkjk =/ I'm quick to jump on shit ideas ^^
Yes scum are often quick to jump on shit ideas. It is interesting that you say that you are quick to jump on shit ideas, then later in the game you immediately jump on my wagon for what can only be described as shit reasoning:
On December 05 2012 14:03 Rad wrote:
I'm curious, kick. Do you want to vote for people you think are scum, or people you think are dumb? (oh wait, we just found out the answer to that)
##Vote: Kickstart
I'm curious, kick. Do you want to vote for people you think are scum, or people you think are dumb? (oh wait, we just found out the answer to that)
##Vote: Kickstart
Now here I have Oats and Rad's best attempt at making a case on me. Now I encourage you to look at what they claim I have done, and then read my actual posts in the thread - doing this will show you that their cases on me are based on blatant misrepresentation. Note that I have pointed this out already to them, but they (mainly Oats as he is the most active, Rad is in and out of the thread and never really engages in much conversation thus far) are desperately trying to keep this wagon going.
Their cases on me spoilered:
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On December 05 2012 01:41 Rad wrote:
I'm all caught up now.
@kick
Not sure what else to say to you about your concerns with me but TBH that's just my play style. I'm a bit embarrassed that I totally missed the jkjk but what happens is I read something really stupid and then feel the need to jump on it immediately. Feel free to glance over my previous games (XXIX and XXX) if you'd like to see this in action.
@CC
1. "I have no idea who to lynch, but I can justify it because of this post!" - this hasn't happened, why even speculate that it will happen? What's the point of casting suspicion on me for something I haven't even done?
2. If kick's idea was sincere, I'd have major problems with it (as I've already said). My concern there was your quoting "shit idea" as if it wasn't one. I thought perhaps you read his idea differently than how I did, thus my question.
3. Kick literally FoS's yamato then immediately turns around and says "weeelll maybe I'm being too harsh, what's everyone else's thoughts?" Looks like useless trying to be useful. I wanted to get him to talk more about it instead of letting him push it back out onto everyone else.
Thoughts so far:
- leaning scum on kick - just my gut initial feeling, I'm going to focus more on looking into it when I have time after work tonight
- leaning town on yamato - he's acting just like last game IMO, I feel like he'd have to change things up if he were scum
- mind blown trying to understand axle, but I'm happy that he's trying now (his change feels super newbie town, so leaning town) and want to see where he goes with his oats discussion
- leaning town on CC, I feel like he was much less confrontational in his scum game and he's asking good questions
Other reads are pretty null
Going to be fairly lurky today, until tonight when I'm off work and can focus on everything, but wanted to get this post out there in the meantime. I will try to get chances throughout the day to respond when possible.
I'm all caught up now.
@kick
Not sure what else to say to you about your concerns with me but TBH that's just my play style. I'm a bit embarrassed that I totally missed the jkjk but what happens is I read something really stupid and then feel the need to jump on it immediately. Feel free to glance over my previous games (XXIX and XXX) if you'd like to see this in action.
@CC
1. "I have no idea who to lynch, but I can justify it because of this post!" - this hasn't happened, why even speculate that it will happen? What's the point of casting suspicion on me for something I haven't even done?
2. If kick's idea was sincere, I'd have major problems with it (as I've already said). My concern there was your quoting "shit idea" as if it wasn't one. I thought perhaps you read his idea differently than how I did, thus my question.
3. Kick literally FoS's yamato then immediately turns around and says "weeelll maybe I'm being too harsh, what's everyone else's thoughts?" Looks like useless trying to be useful. I wanted to get him to talk more about it instead of letting him push it back out onto everyone else.
Thoughts so far:
- leaning scum on kick - just my gut initial feeling, I'm going to focus more on looking into it when I have time after work tonight
- leaning town on yamato - he's acting just like last game IMO, I feel like he'd have to change things up if he were scum
- mind blown trying to understand axle, but I'm happy that he's trying now (his change feels super newbie town, so leaning town) and want to see where he goes with his oats discussion
- leaning town on CC, I feel like he was much less confrontational in his scum game and he's asking good questions
Other reads are pretty null
Going to be fairly lurky today, until tonight when I'm off work and can focus on everything, but wanted to get this post out there in the meantime. I will try to get chances throughout the day to respond when possible.
On December 05 2012 01:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kickstart is scummy.
Last game, we lynched lurkers and it didnt go too well, vets posted and said that its unlikely that a scum is a lurker and STILL
Kickstart posts this. It reads as very wishy, washy allowing him to keep all his options open.
Lynching a lurker is good for scum because it doesnt really show strong opinions either way because its a lurker, coinflippy.
This vote is so bad, no explaination why this is scum..
Kickstart is looking for town support here, he doesnt want to vote yamato if no one else votes for him...
His whole case on yamato is just him jumping on a small thing that he doesnt even explain how it is scum aligned or even aligned at all.
##Vote: Kickstart
Kickstart is scummy.
Last game, we lynched lurkers and it didnt go too well, vets posted and said that its unlikely that a scum is a lurker and STILL
Kickstart posts this. It reads as very wishy, washy allowing him to keep all his options open.
Lynching a lurker is good for scum because it doesnt really show strong opinions either way because its a lurker, coinflippy.
This vote is so bad, no explaination why this is scum..
Kickstart is looking for town support here, he doesnt want to vote yamato if no one else votes for him...
His whole case on yamato is just him jumping on a small thing that he doesnt even explain how it is scum aligned or even aligned at all.
##Vote: Kickstart
Now again it is important that you read what they claim I said, and then read what was actually said.
A portion of my case against them is asking you to go back and read the discussion between us to see that the scum motivation that I have pointed out (their starting of a bad wagon and determination to keep it going) is really there and for that I apologize because I wish I could just post it all here but then I would be posting our entire filters. This isn't perhaps as comprehensive as I would have liked for reasons I already apologized for but if you have any questions or wish me to expand on anything please ask.
. I would have to submit that him just throwing down a vote without even a word is not really what he should be doing, not sure if you can say it is scummy though because we have no idea what his motivation or intentions are.
