Newbie Mini Mafia XXXII - Page 29

On December 05 2012 14:20 jidolboy wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster

IMO Too lazy to make a case kickstart? I thought you were better than that.

On December 05 2012 04:37 Kickstart wrote:
Are you kids for real. I have a HUGE post on why exactly I was suspicious and why yamato got the FoS, but every one of you saying that my play is odd decided to completely ignore it. Yes when I posted the FoS and all that I didn't expand on why immediately but I gathered my thoughts and provided the most comprehensive post on my thoughts I could.

FoS = finger of suspicion, meaning I was throwing out there that I found what yamato was doing to be suspicious, which I think I explained adequately.

Oats has completely twisted my view on lurker lynch and what I said, I said that I will lynch scum reads over lurkers unless I have no solid reads. Don't know how he is able to twist what I say to suit his meaning as I thought I was very clear in what I thought about policy talk.

If you are going to make a case against me for FoSing yamato, then you better start addressing the actual points I made (check the huge post I made about yamato and rad), otherwise I am going to ignore you.

On December 05 2012 04:44 Kickstart wrote:
Yeah reading Oats "case" on me is just infuriating, none of it is true at all. First he says I said I was fine with lynching lurkers, which I spent the whole beginning of the game arguing with every fucking person about saying I will lynch scum reads over lurkers, yet he claims I am being wishy-washy about it - right. They he says my "vote" is bad when all I did is throw out a FoS, and adequately explain it, and then I get shit for asking peoples opinions on what I have said? Yeah ok, because you haven't asked a million stupid questions about things but when I ask if anyone else felt the same about my read then I am suspicious.

On December 05 2012 04:53 Kickstart wrote:
Yeah I just have to stop reading what Oats said, it is too much bullshit. Before that stupid case he said I spent the entire early game talking about policy voting - this kid clearly did not read the thread and see what I had to say about it because at the time everyone was fucking crying their heads off that I said I am lynching scum reads over lurkers.

Oats can you try and be less stupid and more productive than you were last game? So far you are doing a shit job if that is your goal.

On December 05 2012 11:57 Kickstart wrote:
Since you asked kindly I will entertain you.

Your first claim against me is that I am stalling. This is just untrue. I started out the game telling everyone to shut the hell up about policy talk and move on (but Oats said earlier in the thread that I was saying to just lynch whoever is lurking and it seems everyone just reads what he said about what I said (WHICH IS IN NO WAY ACCURATE AT ALL) and not even bother to look at my posts and see that that is the complete opposite of what I actually did.)
Then, I tried to spur discussion by looking for things that I found suspicious and pointing them out to the thread (yamato and rad), and I made a larger post shortly after explaining my suspicions on both of them IN DETAIL. Now I made reads on people who
a) no one was really suspicious of before (or at least no one had posted about)
and
b) are not one of the "easy targets" (there are several first timers here, some of whom are lurking, and I did not go after any of them)
So how you can say I am stalling when I am bringing up new points against players who had no pressure at all on them is strange to me.

You then call me wishy washy about my suspicion of Yamato. Maybe you should look up what wishy washy, because I have been nothing but firm with my stance that I found his interactions with Axl and his general posting up until that point to be suspicious. You then accuse me of trying to start a case on someone without providing anything to back it up (which is strange since right after you post my large post). I have given a more comprehensive post on why I have my suspicions than anyone thus far - so your accusation is just false.

And finally you attack me for quoting myself and twist and contort the meaning of my post. Read my post, I was supportive but I also told him that he needs to be posting. Nowhere in that post was I being a kiss ass and trying to buy towny points from anyone.

On December 04 2012 16:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Did you read XXX?
If you didnt go read it, Djo kinda acts like Rad where he jumps on a joke but Djo is town
i think that its a null read.
Also I thought you were serious until you posted jk jk.
Scumbag.

On December 05 2012 12:06 Rad wrote:


@CC

I thought your case was half good. I'm kinda curious about the flip on yamato (not sure if I believe his explanation or not), and the idea of thinking of everyone as town and searching for scum is sooo... I dunno, "dreamy"? Like, really? He does that? I agree with you in that I'm paranoid as fuck as town and everyone is scum to me (though I feel I'm getting a bit better at my reads TBH).

Claiming he's town - eh, everyone does that. Null.

On his Kickstart case - ehh, I took it as a pressure move, and I wanted to see more out of kickstart anyway so I thought it was a good move. I've seen debears throw out terrible cases (for example, against me in my first newbie) that got me to talk a lot.

I'll be honest, oats feels unreadable from a meta standpoint. I watched him last game, thought he was scum until people told me otherwise. Feels very similar this game. I have to decide what I think about that "slip" you caught cause it's the major non-meta point that just doesn't make sense to me.

Regarding everything else that's going on, need to read through arn's case, and can't wait for axle to make sense because I honestly believe he's newbie town that will probably have some mind blowing read if he can tell us in english.