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On November 23 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right? Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.
It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD) @ClarityI don't think that we can say that syllo is a confirmed town yet. Let's imagine that scum syllo knows that he has a low negative modifier factor for the events. What is preventing him from looking town enough to get elected and then pick up 3 towns in his party. It should be easy enough for scum syllo not to bring any 3P along  In this way, he can get a lot of town credit ^^
of that'd be the case mafia Syllo would not have picked Keirathi who claimed to have a low hidden value.
If that'd be the case mafia Syllo would have tried to pick either average looking guys or people he considers to have a high value (for whatever reason), but sure as hell he would have dodged Keirathi do stay concealer.
He didn't.
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EBWOP within quote... it's late I'm going to bed now
On November 23 2012 12:11 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right? On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.
It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD) @ClarityI don't think that we can say that syllo is a confirmed town yet. Let's imagine that scum syllo knows that he has a low negative modifier factor for the events. What is preventing him from looking town enough to get elected and then pick up 3 towns in his party. It should be easy enough for scum syllo not to bring any 3P along In this way, he can get a lot of town credit ^^ if that'd be the case mafia Syllo would not have picked Keirathi who claimed to have a low hidden value. If that'd be the case mafia Syllo would have tried to pick either average looking guys or people he considers to have a high value (for whatever reason), but sure as hell he would have dodged Keirathi do stay concealed. He didn't.
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On November 23 2012 11:55 Djodref wrote:
Taking a look at Dieno latest posts and at his filter, I think that we can be confident that he is indeed Frog.
Is there anyone still doubting his claim ? I would go as far as to say that he is town, and not 3P.
You could just ask him. He has claimed, helped town and taken a shitton of damage. 3rd party in that situation seems like a good idea to claim. I know I would if I was a survivor type deal.
Dieno: is your wincon to win with town? Anything else special about it? Not sure who speculated about you needing to maybe kill someone?
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On November 23 2012 12:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Could someone explain what dieno being frog has to do with his alignment?
Is that a likely townrole because of the name or why is everyone mentioning that oO
http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Frog
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On November 23 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right? Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.
It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD) @ClarityI don't think that we can say that syllo is a confirmed town yet. Let's imagine that scum syllo knows that he has a low negative modifier factor for the events. What is preventing him from looking town enough to get elected and then pick up 3 towns in his party. It should be easy enough for scum syllo not to bring any 3P along In this way, he can get a lot of town credit ^^
One way or another, syllogism just picked a winning team. I don't see a conspiracy here, as long as he keeps doing what hes doing, he'll keep getting my vote to keep picking his team.
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On November 23 2012 12:20 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right? On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.
It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD) @ClarityI don't think that we can say that syllo is a confirmed town yet. Let's imagine that scum syllo knows that he has a low negative modifier factor for the events. What is preventing him from looking town enough to get elected and then pick up 3 towns in his party. It should be easy enough for scum syllo not to bring any 3P along In this way, he can get a lot of town credit ^^ One way or another, syllogism just picked a winning team. I don't see a conspiracy here, as long as he keeps doing what hes doing, he'll keep getting my vote to keep picking his team.
This. I see no reason to suspect Syllo. If things suddenly start going wrong, well.. then we can think about it, but Syllo and his gang are in my town list. Although Marv was in my head when he was surprised that Syllo picked Keirathi. I was only marginally reading town on him. I have some other reads that I was quite a bit more convinced about.
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On November 23 2012 12:11 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right? On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.
It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD) @ClarityI don't think that we can say that syllo is a confirmed town yet. Let's imagine that scum syllo knows that he has a low negative modifier factor for the events. What is preventing him from looking town enough to get elected and then pick up 3 towns in his party. It should be easy enough for scum syllo not to bring any 3P along In this way, he can get a lot of town credit ^^ of that'd be the case mafia Syllo would not have picked Keirathi who claimed to have a low hidden value. If that'd be the case mafia Syllo would have tried to pick either average looking guys or people he considers to have a high value (for whatever reason), but sure as hell he would have dodged Keirathi do stay concealer. He didn't.
@Toad
That's a good point. But would you say that syllo is now confirmed town ?
My point was made to show Clarity that we shouldn't consider syllo as totally confirmed yet. Of course, he is more likely to be town than anything else but not 100% confirmed imho.
I didn't totally think at all the implications of my point.
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On November 23 2012 12:26 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 12:11 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right? On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.
It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD) @ClarityI don't think that we can say that syllo is a confirmed town yet. Let's imagine that scum syllo knows that he has a low negative modifier factor for the events. What is preventing him from looking town enough to get elected and then pick up 3 towns in his party. It should be easy enough for scum syllo not to bring any 3P along In this way, he can get a lot of town credit ^^ of that'd be the case mafia Syllo would not have picked Keirathi who claimed to have a low hidden value. If that'd be the case mafia Syllo would have tried to pick either average looking guys or people he considers to have a high value (for whatever reason), but sure as hell he would have dodged Keirathi do stay concealer. He didn't. @ToadThat's a good point. But would you say that syllo is now confirmed town ? My point was made to show Clarity that we shouldn't consider syllo as totally confirmed yet. Of course, he is more likely to be town than anything else but not 100% confirmed imho. I didn't totally think at all the implications of my point.
No, he's not "confirmed" town. I don't expect we'll have anyone confirmed town in this whole game. But there's a damn good probability that syllo is town at this point, imo.
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
When you guys say @Toad, I keep on thinking you are talking to me lol
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Drazerk, did you throw around a load of 20 damage nukes?
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On November 23 2012 12:18 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 11:55 Djodref wrote:
Taking a look at Dieno latest posts and at his filter, I think that we can be confident that he is indeed Frog.
Is there anyone still doubting his claim ? I would go as far as to say that he is town, and not 3P. You could just ask him. He has claimed, helped town and taken a shitton of damage. 3rd party in that situation seems like a good idea to claim. I know I would if I was a survivor type deal. Dieno: is your wincon to win with town? Anything else special about it? Not sure who speculated about you needing to maybe kill someone?
@ Acro
According to sandro, syllo and him have speculated before the game about the win-con for Frog.
@Dieno: Could you answer these questions please ?
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On November 23 2012 12:26 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 12:11 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right? On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.
It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD) @ClarityI don't think that we can say that syllo is a confirmed town yet. Let's imagine that scum syllo knows that he has a low negative modifier factor for the events. What is preventing him from looking town enough to get elected and then pick up 3 towns in his party. It should be easy enough for scum syllo not to bring any 3P along In this way, he can get a lot of town credit ^^ of that'd be the case mafia Syllo would not have picked Keirathi who claimed to have a low hidden value. If that'd be the case mafia Syllo would have tried to pick either average looking guys or people he considers to have a high value (for whatever reason), but sure as hell he would have dodged Keirathi do stay concealer. He didn't. @ToadThat's a good point. But would you say that syllo is now confirmed town ? My point was made to show Clarity that we shouldn't consider syllo as totally confirmed yet. Of course, he is more likely to be town than anything else but not 100% confirmed imho. I didn't totally think at all the implications of my point.
No one is confirmed town until they're dead. There is just balance of probability. Right now I choose to believe that syllo and his team are probably town.
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
I am not town, since I am a frog, however I do win with the town, so have no fear.
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
Alright guys, it looks like you all have the scumhunt well underway, so keep it up. In the meantime, I'm going to put some ideas out there that concerns plot and set-up.
The story so far (condensed version):
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Teleporter malfunctions, group wakes up and sees castle. Gets pounced on by fiends, some people die, and the group heads to the church. We enter church, fight some demons, and save the King and Queen. Team returns to present and now we get to lynch a 'shapeshifter' (aka mafia).
So far this is very consistent with the actual Chrono Trigger game, so I am going to assume that we can draw clues about what is going to happen next based on that. In the video game, Chronos and his party are arrested for kidnapping the princess and are sentenced to death (idk, might just be represented with our lynching phase). The group escapes through another portal, which flings them far into the future 2300ad. Here, they learn about Lavos and vow to stop it. Along they way, they repair and meet Robo (probably going to be the next crucial party member). After some running around, they eventually bump into Gaspar, the old sage at the end of time (might be a 3rd party role this game?). He gives them magic powers and the ability to time travel. The party then jumps back into prehistoric time, where Ayla (probably another role) and Frog join the group. The team helps Frog repair his sword, then fights and kills Magus (might be a scum role), the evil guy who turned me into a frog.
Well, it seems I have this broken sword in my inventory. As explained in my initial role PM: "Now, you wield the broken Masamune to defend your queen. Until it is fixed you cannot use its full power." I'd like to live long enough to see us fix it, but I'm afraid I won't make it at this current rate. I think it could be a great help to the team if we get this bad boy online.
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Ok for my next trick, I have compiled a list of everyone who has admitted to taking damage. We can use this to gauge a rough estimate of mafia killing power. I am aware that it would be oh-so-easy for mafia to lie about this, so take it with a grain of salt. There has to be a bit of truth behind it though, so here it is:
Dienosore - 445 dmg
Marvellosity - 200 dmg
CaveJohnson - 25 dmg
Clarity - 20 dmg
Iamperfection - 20 dmg
Acrofalls - 20 dmg
Djodref - 20 dmg
Keirathi - 0 dmg
TheChronicler - 0 dmg
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Frog too good.
There is also the 200 conditional dmg on me if you want to count that.
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
Damn wish I could edit you in.
Another thing I forgot to add. Since this game seems like it's going to be pretty dynamic, I'm also considering the possibility that the queen we just saved can be utilized in some way. Maybe someone's PM said something like "if the group saves you, you get so-and-so power" or maybe she's just an NPC that will make our next mission easier, IDK -_-
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On November 23 2012 13:04 Dienosore wrote:
Damn wish I could edit you in.
Another thing I forgot to add. Since this game seems like it's going to be pretty dynamic, I'm also considering the possibility that the queen we just saved can be utilized in some way. Maybe someone's PM said something like "if the group saves you, you get so-and-so power" or maybe she's just an NPC that will make our next mission easier, IDK -_-
Probably some bonus when we have to fight Lavos, imo.
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Lol. Random speculation: Marle would die if we didn't complete the mission. Sucks to be you, goodbye /flush. Not a very nice, or fair, mechanic (as at least mislynches can be blamed on the person being lynched failing to look townie), but lorewise totally correct and would create amazing WTFness.
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On November 23 2012 09:04 kitaman27 wrote:Well done I've been targeted with the guessing game. If I don't properly predict the lynch result within the next 24 hours I am hit with 200 hp of damage. I guess this is one of the ways mafia can damage people? :p
@kita
If I understand this correctly, it should be in your benefit to have someone with a strong lead in the vote count before the lynch. I'm expecting you to push people to consolidate quite early 
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Oh noice things worked out well - GJ syllo, glad you're on our side of things.
Also, I did not get hit last night so yay!
I'll have to think over the lynch some over the night. CaveJohnson is my top scumread atm, but that could change after a thorough read-through of the filters.
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