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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
November 23 2012 02:21 GMT
#1781
On November 23 2012 11:17 Dienosore wrote:
Ah, well then I don't know what we should do... any ideas on how to make this work?


make what work dear? some town circle is impossible as all communication is in-thread only. Was there something else in particular you are trying to make work?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 23 2012 02:23 GMT
#1782
On November 23 2012 11:17 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 11:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 11:07 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 11:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 11:01 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 10:53 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 10:44 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 10:35 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 10:19 Toadesstern wrote:
[quote]

The BillMurray who's playing like and idiot from time to times (I'm trying to be nice), keeps on blackmailing people as a mad hatter so that noone lynches him and actually succeeds in doing so because people think there's no way he'd be that stupid as mafia so they think he's just really a stupid Drazerk-like townie.

I have never ever figured out BillMurray in my life in a game of mafia with confidence and I played some games with him. Does that answer your question? Yes I'd agree the comparison you did isn't complete bullshit, hence my astonishment because I'd neither label any of those 2 transparent. Never ever.

BM takes some figuring out, but I am fairly certain I can read him accurately now. This is like a completely transparent version of the same. I mean.. the notepad? That was just so... I dunno. I just cannot see a scum doing that ever in a million years.

Add to that the clueless campaign and the nameclaim and I was pretty certain he was town.

As my BM example was supposed to show, or any town-Drazerk game where he clames bulletproof, not roleblockable medic that is going to protect town-Vet-A so no other town medic has to protect him as a townie himself and thinks it's a good idea... there's plently of people I could see doing that, no matter of alignment. BM being the example for mafias doing that and Drazerk being the example for townies doing that kind of stuff with the 2 games I'm pointing at right now.


The fact that you cannot tell the difference between these examples and Denisore's play is telling enough in your ability to read alignments.

thx, said the guy who wasn't able to make an educated guess about wether Keirathi outright claimed mafia in the thread or wether he was really concerned about leading the mission to failure with his (supposed to be) low hidden value.

Did YOU give an opinion on if I was claiming scum in the thread or not? I don't remember you doing so.

well I would have if I had considered it to be a mafiaclaim. I don't talk about townreads...

So, you had a scum read on me, then i claimed something weird in the thread and that moved me to a town read?


No, you said something I considered to be a weak mafiatreat early in the game. I mentioned it telling people you're scum trying to get people talking about stuff like that rather than having people talk about the set-up or townreads. Like I explained (go check my filter, I don't feel like searching that post because it's REALLY long time ago).
You then proceeded to keep on playing agressive unlike the vast majority of people which made me go back to null-read (again, the first one was an ever so slight read I exaggerated on purpose, nothing I'd consider a read at all in general), maybe slightly leaning town.
You then proceeded to either straight up claim third-party, mafia or incredibly concerned townie.


which?

On November 23 2012 10:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 10:44 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 10:35 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 10:19 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 10:13 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 09:13 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 23 2012 09:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Good job. I'm wondering a bit why Deinosaur but it worked out fine.

Lynching Sandroba should be the way to go for today. Maybe Marv.


Lol, nice soft defense.

How is that a soft defense?
I basicly said that I would not have picked Deinosaur, as in I didn't consider him to be a clear townie at all.
I said I want Sandroba and Marv lynch.

What part of that post is defending someone?

How could you NOT have a town read on this guy? I'm boggled. He's like a transparent BillMurray.


The BillMurray who's playing like and idiot from time to times (I'm trying to be nice), keeps on blackmailing people as a mad hatter so that noone lynches him and actually succeeds in doing so because people think there's no way he'd be that stupid as mafia so they think he's just really a stupid Drazerk-like townie.

I have never ever figured out BillMurray in my life in a game of mafia with confidence and I played some games with him. Does that answer your question? Yes I'd agree the comparison you did isn't complete bullshit, hence my astonishment because I'd neither label any of those 2 transparent. Never ever.

BM takes some figuring out, but I am fairly certain I can read him accurately now. This is like a completely transparent version of the same. I mean.. the notepad? That was just so... I dunno. I just cannot see a scum doing that ever in a million years.

Add to that the clueless campaign and the nameclaim and I was pretty certain he was town.

As my BM example was supposed to show, or any town-Drazerk game where he clames bulletproof, not roleblockable medic that is going to protect town-Vet-A so no other town medic has to protect him as a townie himself and thinks it's a good idea... there's plently of people I could see doing that, no matter of alignment. BM being the example for mafias doing that and Drazerk being the example for townies doing that kind of stuff with the 2 games I'm pointing at right now.


The fact that you cannot tell the difference between these examples and Denisore's play is telling enough in your ability to read alignments.

thx, said the guy who wasn't able to make an educated guess about wether Keirathi outright claimed mafia in the thread or wether he was really concerned about leading the mission to failure with his (supposed to be) low hidden value.

go ahead and guess what I considered to be a likely explanation and what I considered to be an unlikely explanation out of those 3.
Again, the question is: Did he willingly claim mafia or is he just really concerned?
Why in the world should someone post something like that as a mafia or third party... unless maybe he's the GF or has GF-like abilities as either mafia or third party and wants to draw DT's but come on... that's just way to complicated. The best explanation simply was him being concerned and not claiming mafia on purpose.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 23 2012 02:26 GMT
#1783
On November 23 2012 11:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 11:17 Dienosore wrote:
Ah, well then I don't know what we should do... any ideas on how to make this work?


make what work dear? some town circle is impossible as all communication is in-thread only. Was there something else in particular you are trying to make work?


Forming a town circle of some sort was my plan. I guess I'm just going to have to shoulder the load by myself until someone else reliably claims.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 23 2012 02:32 GMT
#1784
You know, I'm really surprised that no one ever asked me WHY I claimed that I had a low success modifier :o

Yes, it was an inadvertent slip, talking about something a "VT" wouldn't have knowledge of. Just weird that no one even really questioned me about it.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 23 2012 02:35 GMT
#1785
On November 23 2012 11:32 Keirathi wrote:
You know, I'm really surprised that no one ever asked me WHY I claimed that I had a low success modifier :o

Yes, it was an inadvertent slip, talking about something a "VT" wouldn't have knowledge of. Just weird that no one even really questioned me about it.

Pretty sure people asked you o.O
Pretty sure either you or someone else said it's probably because of the name of your role as you kept saying you don't know the exact number.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 23 2012 02:35 GMT
#1786
Why did you claim you have a low success modifier?

And why did you use the word 'had'? Does your success modifier change?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 23 2012 02:40 GMT
#1787
I took a 20HP damage tonight
Could anyone not voting for syllo yesterday and not in the party could tell us if he took similar amount of damage ?


I'm guessing that mafia had activated a power to target all syllo voters. I might be wrong...

What about applying the Lynch a Lurker policy for today ?

On a side note, I don't think that he is scum so far and I don't want a wagon to form until he comes back to the thread and provides some explanations and reads and all... He did disappear like this during our Looney game and he was town.

##Vote: BioSC
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 23 2012 02:42 GMT
#1788
On November 23 2012 11:40 Djodref wrote:
I took a 20HP damage tonight
Could anyone not voting for syllo yesterday and not in the party could tell us if he took similar amount of damage ?


I'm guessing that mafia had activated a power to target all syllo voters. I might be wrong...

What about applying the Lynch a Lurker policy for today ?

On a side note, I don't think that he is scum so far and I don't want a wagon to form until he comes back to the thread and provides some explanations and reads and all... He did disappear like this during our Looney game and he was town.

##Vote: BioSC


Interesting, this could indeed be the case.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 23 2012 02:43 GMT
#1789
Djo what do you think about sandro being scum?.
The reason why I do not want to lynch all lurkers for today at least is because there are better targets that is more than a coinflip.
If this is a pressure vote, by all means though :/
No gg, No skill.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 23 2012 02:43 GMT
#1790
On November 23 2012 11:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 11:32 Keirathi wrote:
You know, I'm really surprised that no one ever asked me WHY I claimed that I had a low success modifier :o

Yes, it was an inadvertent slip, talking about something a "VT" wouldn't have knowledge of. Just weird that no one even really questioned me about it.

Pretty sure people asked you o.O
Pretty sure either you or someone else said it's probably because of the name of your role as you kept saying you don't know the exact number.

People asked me how I knew what my modifier was, and if I knew it specifically. I guess this is pretty off-topic and pointless though, but it kind of bugs me that no one was interested in really engaging me in conversation, trying to figure out if I was concerned town or dumb mafia, and asking me why I claimed low success modifier to begin with.

On November 23 2012 11:35 Dienosore wrote:
Why did you claim you have a low success modifier?

And why did you use the word 'had'? Does your success modifier change?


No, my modifier didn't change. Probably just wrong verb tense? I was talking in the past "No one [then] asked me why I had a low success modifier". Had seems like the correct conjugation, but maybe 'have' is?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 23 2012 02:44 GMT
#1791
On November 23 2012 11:40 Djodref wrote:
I took a 20HP damage tonight
Could anyone not voting for syllo yesterday and not in the party could tell us if he took similar amount of damage ?


I'm guessing that mafia had activated a power to target all syllo voters. I might be wrong...

What about applying the Lynch a Lurker policy for today ?

On a side note, I don't think that he is scum so far and I don't want a wagon to form until he comes back to the thread and provides some explanations and reads and all... He did disappear like this during our Looney game and he was town.

##Vote: BioSC

All syllo voters EXCEPT those in the party? That doesn't make a ton of sense.

I voted syllo and was in the party. I took 0 damage.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 23 2012 02:48 GMT
#1792
I voted syl and didn't take damage.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 23 2012 02:51 GMT
#1793
On November 23 2012 11:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Djo what do you think about sandro being scum?.
The reason why I do not want to lynch all lurkers for today at least is because there are better targets that is more than a coinflip.
If this is a pressure vote, by all means though :/


@Oats

I think you should read our Looney game first.
Day 1 was quite long but you can just look sandroba's filter. He almost got mislynched D1 because he was inactive and not giving explanations enough for his reads. In fact, everyone should read his filter in Looney before voting him. Please tell me what you think after this.
I don't think he is scum but I need more from him. I would not lynch him because I don't see what could be mafia motivated in his behavior, except for his inactivity.

And the main goal for my vote on BioSC is to put some pressure on him but also on all the lurkers
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 23 2012 02:52 GMT
#1794
On November 23 2012 11:48 TheChronicler wrote:
I voted syl and didn't take damage.


Ok thanks, my hypothesis was wrong then.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 23 2012 02:55 GMT
#1795
Taking a look at Dieno latest posts and at his filter, I think that we can be confident that he is indeed Frog.
Is there anyone still doubting his claim ? I would go as far as to say that he is town, and not 3P.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 23 2012 03:04 GMT
#1796
@Djo
My vote is also a pressure vote on Sandro to defend himself from syllo's allegations.
I think that this game is different from the looney game.
Do you read his filter from both games and think that he sounds the same? I dont.
No gg, No skill.
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 23 2012 03:09 GMT
#1797
Phone dying. Not able to post/track thread until I can get home
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 23 2012 03:09 GMT
#1798
On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right?


On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.

It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD)


@Clarity

I don't think that we can say that syllo is a confirmed town yet.
Let's imagine that scum syllo knows that he has a low negative modifier factor for the events. What is preventing him from looking town enough to get elected and then pick up 3 towns in his party. It should be easy enough for scum syllo not to bring any 3P along
In this way, he can get a lot of town credit ^^
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 23 2012 03:09 GMT
#1799
Could someone explain what dieno being frog has to do with his alignment?
Is that a likely townrole because of the name or why is everyone mentioning that oO
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 23 2012 03:11 GMT
#1800
I think we should wait for Syllo to post before jumping to conclusions
No gg, No skill.
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