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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 25 2012 18:21 GMT
#3189
I think those may potentially affect mission success, but in the end best and most likely design is based primarily on mafia being included in the team. I do not think a mission can fail if there is no mafia included; that kind of hidden mechanics are simply not fun. The only possible, and still unfun, exception I can see would be some kind of one-shot mafia ability, but I think they would have used that on n1.

In fact, I think the speculation revolving around whether we should include claimed characters or players with matching time period flavor is also misguided (dienosore and oats should be included because they were on a successful day 1 mission, although the roles do not hurt).

So, in short, ignore hp/roles, unless the claims themselves make someone more likely to be town.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 25 2012 18:29 GMT
#3195
On November 26 2012 03:25 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 03:21 syllogism wrote:
I think those may potentially affect mission success, but in the end best and most likely design is based primarily on mafia being included in the team. I do not think a mission can fail if there is no mafia included; that kind of hidden mechanics are simply not fun. The only possible, and still unfun, exception I can see would be some kind of one-shot mafia ability, but I think they would have used that on n1.

In fact, I think the speculation revolving around whether we should include claimed characters or players with matching time period flavor is also misguided (dienosore and oats should be included because they were on a successful day 1 mission, although the roles do not hurt).

So, in short, ignore hp/roles, unless the claims themselves make someone more likely to be town.


Out of interest, any reason you advocate those 2 rather than yourself?

No, including me is fine.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 25 2012 18:35 GMT
#3199
Again, the most likely function of hidden modifier mechanic is to prevent too many players to be confirmed as town and to leave room for some confusion. It is extremely unlikely that we are supposed to plan around these unknown factors as that is just bad design. Greymist hardly expected players to just claim their roles based on the current time line and then those people would get included. Perhaps having a lot of strong town roles on a mission could outweight a mafia being included on a mission, but that doesn't seem fun for mafia. Roles aren't supposed to be claimed, so who is on the mission should usually be completely random.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 25 2012 18:47 GMT
#3205
How did you get your popcorn
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 25 2012 18:51 GMT
#3207
That's such a dumb ability name that I'm struggling to see how it could be a fake claim unless someone on the team is clever. How do you get gold then?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 25 2012 18:57 GMT
#3210
I guess the ability is called popcorn, because that is what greymist will be eating when the person with the role claims his popcorn check
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 06:19 GMT
#3509
Prom: just for entertainment, what is the name of your role
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 06:30 GMT
#3511
Oh ok, so outing marv's action and the fact he has a role helps town, but you revealing your role name does not. You seem more worried about claiming your role name than your powers
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 06:40 GMT
#3514
That crumb you just did is so obvious mafia already knows which time period you are from. In addition, I doubt they would even care if you were town. So kindly claim your role name
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 06:42 GMT
#3517
Just in case mafia has safe claims, I would like one to be used now
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 07:45 GMT
#3529
Prom: for future reference, it's not a good strategy to berate me in every post, especially given what happened on day 1 and 2. That and telling fewer unnecessary lies should help in your future endeavours.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 10:24 GMT
#3554
I like the relationship map. It's like a more-effort version of something I occasionally do, although it can be tricky to determine meaningful negative associations, so have to be careful with those erratic lines. They in particular can provide useful information later on if the screen isn't too lax.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 11:56 GMT
#3563
If I had to name a five person mafia team on the spot without reading any of the filters. I would probably go with

sandro toad acro prom and maaaybe risk

The above risk-prom conversation feels off, as does the fact that risk decided to run today for election. He also supported sandro early and the post in which he declared his vote is suspicious in more ways than one. Anyway, this isn't relevant right now.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 11:59 GMT
#3567
You can't throw anything "in my face" even if somehow I am wrong about you. Everyone is wrong about a lot of things every single game. Town is in a very good position, so me considering you almost certain mafia shouldn't bother you this much. The hostility and that comment is very typical of a mafia in your position, not so much of a town aligned person.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 12:07 GMT
#3573
I forgot to mention one reason for including acro (besides his strong and occasionally irrational support of sandro and his 1-shot dt claim today):

What's the common theme among the first three players: Iam, Djo, Clarity, Acro

First three are players who aren't high priority mafia targets, but yet were pretty active and to some degree towny on day 1. If mafia has an ability that does damage slowly over time, it makes sense to target this kind of players. Acro is the one who doesn't fit. Of course I'm operating based on the assumption that mafia would fake damage, but I think this makes sense.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 12:11 GMT
#3580
I said I didn't even read your filter, don't worry about it, I'm not going to push you to get lynched and if you are town you are definitely an asset and will prove yourself as such in the following days. There is definitely some confirmation bias going on if I'm wrong, it just seems tidy.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#3587
I don't know him very well, but I went through his filter at some point and concluded at the time that I couldn't figure out how his play would make sense from mafia perspective. I also thought he genuinely cared about finding mafia. So leaning town I guess.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 13:11 GMT
#3611
Oh so you RBed me today
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 14:34 GMT
#3658
I've very strong reasons for considering Prom mafia, so how about directing your damage that way. Also you are just plain wrong in saying that whether his role seems ridiculous or not is irrelevant, just like you were yesterday when you were telling everyone how wrong they were about sandroba.

If you are town, how about not arguing against me every single day
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 14:37 GMT
#3663
On November 26 2012 23:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 23:34 syllogism wrote:
I've very strong reasons for considering Prom mafia, so how about directing your damage that way. Also you are just plain wrong in saying that whether his role seems ridiculous or not is irrelevant, just like you were yesterday when you were telling everyone how wrong they were about sandroba.

If you are town, how about not arguing against me every single day


syllo, perhaps you do, but you're not communicating them very effectively to the rest of us, which is kinda important.

As a basically confirmed town with some deserved credibility and as someone who does not make strong statements lightly how about taking my word for it
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