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On November 25 2012 20:01 syllogism wrote:
Prom: So you are saying you have a roleblock+track ability and an ability that roleblocks everyone who visits the person you target, is this correct?
nope, the track thing was something I never claimed. I said I 'knew which way Sand was pointing when he was Rb'd' which is true because by targeting you I RB'd those who targeted you. I used that part of my ability as a 'watcher' like ability but it wasn't fool proof, I was bluffing Sand when I said that I 'knew' he targeted you. I guessed it based on my role and my reads.
I have an ability which is planted on a single player which, if activated RBs everyone who visits that players. If it is not activated it will after [redacted number of cycle(s)] become a shield to block [ redacted number] of HP damage to the targeted player.
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On November 25 2012 20:19 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 20:13 Promethelax wrote:On November 25 2012 20:01 syllogism wrote:
Prom: So you are saying you have a roleblock+track ability and an ability that roleblocks everyone who visits the person you target, is this correct? nope, the track thing was something I never claimed. I said I 'knew which way Sand was pointing when he was Rb'd' which is true because by targeting you I RB'd those who targeted you. I used that part of my ability as a 'watcher' like ability but it wasn't fool proof, I was bluffing Sand when I said that I 'knew' he targeted you. I guessed it based on my role and my reads. I have an ability which is planted on a single player which, if activated RBs everyone who visits that players. If it is not activated it will after [redacted number of cycle(s)] become a shield to block [ redacted number] of HP damage to the targeted player. @PromSo how do you explain that syllo took some damage during the first cycle ?
I literally answered this two posts up...
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On November 25 2012 20:20 syllogism wrote:
Yeah sure.
I'm fairly certain that Prom is mafia and that his first claimed ability is real. The one he is claiming now is completely ridiculous as a town ability. It is so strong that even if it was a real ability, I don't see a town aligned player claiming it like that. Sandroba was headed for a lynch and we didn't need additional information to secure the lynch. Both of his abilities could be real, but the mass roleblock ability is extremely unlikely to be an ability of a town aligned role.
I think bussing is the strongest ability Sandro had and it is very likely that it is the one he used (although frame bus is a bit ambigious). Prom targeted marv n1 with his rb+track or whatever ability. Right now I don't quite understand why he decided to change his claim, but I guess one possibility is to make marv look slightly suspicious/force him to claim and perhaps he thinks he gets more town cred like this.
I haven't changed my claim. Go read my filter. Hell I'll do it for you.
On November 24 2012 17:31 Promethelax wrote:
snippy-
I know who he was pointing at when he got blocked, okay?
On November 25 2012 09:32 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 01:21 kitaman27 wrote:On November 24 2012 17:22 Promethelax wrote:
Sandroba: please claim why you targeted Syllo with your ability last nigth This is a really important post. In any game I would host or any game that I can recall playing, a player who is roleblocked does not return any results to tracking abilities. As sandroba insists he targeted syllo, but was roleblocked, either one of these two players is lying or prom really needs to clarify his role. Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 03:54 marvellosity wrote:
Although, kita, I will agree with you on this - Prome's absence is completely disgraceful given his earlier revelation and the fact that sandroba is the main wagon. That's pretty much completely unacceptable, whatever real life excuses he'll give us. okay, it seems that my role is pretty contentious for Kita and Kier (and probably everyone else who has a name that stars with K) the ability I used last night Roleblocks all players who target a single player with their actions. I took a gamble and assumed that I was the only one with a roleblocking ability because only two people claimed RB'd and I assumed that they both targeted Syllo. I did not want to reveal why I knew that those players targeted Syllo or the correlation with the roleblocks (this is why I haven't yet confronted marv about his targeting Syllo but now that the cat is out of the bag: Marv, what were you trying to do to the Great Leader?). I decided to gamble that i was right and that Sand had targeted Syllo (50% chance at least just from there being only two RB claims) and force him to claim what he had done. My bread crumb should be obvious to anyone looking but here it is: Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 05:40 Promethelax wrote:
Hapa, you will not get my vote today. You come to late to change this election and I don't like that you push us away from Sand/Syllo but don't mention Kita except as a 'joke'
I agree with you that we should not be voting Sand based on his unopposed candidacy and I didn't want to vote Syllo since he seemed intent on bringing Sand with him on the mission. I still prefer Syllo over Sand and will vote him if things get tight, as it is though I am more comfortable with Kita than either of them, his town reads are still strong to me even though he is not as townine in my mind as any of the three he chose to take with him.
In my catching up I saw Kita post something asking why I was voting him if I didn't think he was the best leader. I thought I had made this clear, he was the best leader with a chance of success. If that wasn't clear my apologies, my intention was to communicate that Kita was the least of the evils which were available to me.
I am sending in my night action(s) now. I will be in the thread for another hour.
Syllo: I believe that it is now time for you to announce the members of your team and the reasons for their inclusion. You probably will win this election and I would like to hear your reasons for their inclusion in your team, you may not be able to give us those reads next day since you may be killed by scum/3party. I don't want to block up the thread with a lot of fluf but I think that your reasons would be a worthwhile inclusion that might protect townies from other townies at a later date. this is why I said that I was sending in my night actions there, to be clear that this is where I specified them. I'm saying that I am using my power to protect Syllo and that it will [role]block people who target him. It isn't a brilliant crumb but I think the awkward wording speaks for itself, this is a crumb. I have other powers but this is the one you need to know about. If I place this on a plyer and they are not targeted for a certain number of cycles than it will provide a certain amount of protection against damage from any in game source. That being said I would like to return to game things: Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 02:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can someone other than marv confirm that Drazerk would be a coinflip at the point? I have not played with him but the games I have read of his would suggest that this is totally true. Marv is right here. Hapa: you ignored everything I said in response. I think you know better that my actions follow the way I think about the game which, as should be obvious, is not always the dominant way of thinking. Since you haven't responded to me I don't have more to add except that you are a top scum read for me now. I've never seen you, as town, push that someone is scum but also refuse to engage with them. You are more hands on. I expect this disengaged sort of attack from Zbo but not from you. hah, gotcha Sand. In post game I'm going to revel in getting that one right. Just in case anyone wasn't sure.
On November 25 2012 09:48 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 09:46 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 25 2012 09:42 Promethelax wrote:On November 25 2012 09:37 marvellosity wrote:
incidentally this is why I was fairly believing of kita earlier, because he claimed his shot on Drazerk only did half damage.
Obviously these actions were nothing to do with me, but the 50% resonated with my role. interesting. So I am the only RBing role in the game. Or the only one activated n1. I assume some people have multiple abilities and not all would necessarily use the rb, where is the glory in that? Marv, if you are a 600 character why didn't you try harder to get in the team d1? Didn't you feel that since your ability got a bonus your hidden modifier would too? On November 25 2012 09:40 kitaman27 wrote:^_^ I took 50 damage last night. I picked sandroba from my guessing game and avoided the damage. I'm also part of a fun new game, which I won't reveal yet -_- Considering Sandroba never returned, I think we should be looking for players that show signs of frustration towards his absence. On November 25 2012 09:36 marvellosity wrote:On November 25 2012 09:34 Promethelax wrote:hey Marv, baby, why did you target Syllo n1? + Show Spoiler +sorry about my play sensei, I will do better I'm basically a medic type role. I reduce incoming HP by half on the target player (or in 600 AD, 2 players). So Cave trolls it up to attract kp, syllo is bussed with cave, and syllo takes my hit, while cave gets protected. the roleblocks buddy, the roleblocks. Neither of those things went through. Draz: why are you thanking me for my ability? What did it do benefit you? If anyone was only targeting me surely they would of been roleblocked? or am I misunderstanding the role if anyone targets the player I used it on they are roleblocked. I didn't use it on you though. why do you think that I did?
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what do you think I claimed Syllo? Tracker? No. I used my rb ability to emulate a watcher ability.
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On November 25 2012 20:28 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 20:20 syllogism wrote:
Yeah sure.
I'm fairly certain that Prom is mafia and that his first claimed ability is real. The one he is claiming now is completely ridiculous as a town ability. It is so strong that even if it was a real ability, I don't see a town aligned player claiming it like that. Sandroba was headed for a lynch and we didn't need additional information to secure the lynch. Both of his abilities could be real, but the mass roleblock ability is extremely unlikely to be an ability of a town aligned role.
I think bussing is the strongest ability Sandro had and it is very likely that it is the one he used (although frame bus is a bit ambigious). Prom targeted marv n1 with his rb+track or whatever ability. Right now I don't quite understand why he decided to change his claim, but I guess one possibility is to make marv look slightly suspicious/force him to claim and perhaps he thinks he gets more town cred like this. Isn't the ability he describes basically a jailkeeper ability?
I've thought about it that way but that isn't entirely true. Instead if rb'ing the guy I target I rb the people who target him.
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no I didn't. Look at my Bread Crumb. I talk about blocking, protecting townies and targeting you. I knew before either one claimed in thread that Marv and Sand targeted you. The only way I could be scum is with both of them since they confirmed separately that I knew where both were pointing n1 and both were RB'd by me.
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On November 25 2012 20:31 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 20:29 Promethelax wrote:On November 25 2012 20:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 25 2012 20:20 syllogism wrote:
Yeah sure.
I'm fairly certain that Prom is mafia and that his first claimed ability is real. The one he is claiming now is completely ridiculous as a town ability. It is so strong that even if it was a real ability, I don't see a town aligned player claiming it like that. Sandroba was headed for a lynch and we didn't need additional information to secure the lynch. Both of his abilities could be real, but the mass roleblock ability is extremely unlikely to be an ability of a town aligned role.
I think bussing is the strongest ability Sandro had and it is very likely that it is the one he used (although frame bus is a bit ambigious). Prom targeted marv n1 with his rb+track or whatever ability. Right now I don't quite understand why he decided to change his claim, but I guess one possibility is to make marv look slightly suspicious/force him to claim and perhaps he thinks he gets more town cred like this. Isn't the ability he describes basically a jailkeeper ability? I've thought about it that way but that isn't entirely true. Instead if rb'ing the guy I target I rb the people who target him. Right, so the only difference is that if somehow people are trying to use multiple abilities, and one of them is used on your target then it won't happen.
No,no no the difference is that my target can still use his ability. Assuming I have good reads it is a very protown ability.
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On November 25 2012 20:33 syllogism wrote:
No, you likely knew because you are mafia with sandroba and because you, in fact, have an ability that roleblocks and tracks at the same time.
That is fucking dumb. But okay. Think what you want to think. I expected better from you Syllo. I'll be using the abilities of mine which I chose to use on the people I choose to use them on. But believe me, one of you/Oats/Dieno will be getting my protection tonight.
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okay guys, those of you who have played CT. Any idea what a countdown has to do with anything?
how delayed?
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I assume it is a countdown to Lavos but I want to know what tim it was supposed to be posted in case it is related to something we say. Lie if every time we say "stupid fucking butt monkey" or something it gets lower and at the end...?something bad I assume.
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On November 25 2012 20:50 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 09:32 Promethelax wrote:
okay, it seems that my role is pretty contentious for Kita and Kier (and probably everyone else who has a name that stars with K) the ability I used last night Roleblocks all players who target a single player with their actions. I took a gamble and assumed that I was the only one with a roleblocking ability because only two people claimed RB'd and I assumed that they both targeted Syllo. I did not want to reveal why I knew that those players targeted Syllo or the correlation with the roleblocks (this is why I haven't yet confronted marv about his targeting Syllo but now that the cat is out of the bag: Marv, what were you trying to do to the Great Leader?). I decided to gamble that i was right and that Sand had targeted Syllo (50% chance at least just from there being only two RB claims) and force him to claim what he had done.
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Why, though?
because I thought it was likely that in a 25 player game at least one player would target the leader of the successful d1 quest, I assumed that at least one mafia would target him with a detrimental ability. If no one targeted him he would eventually gain some protection. win-win.
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On November 25 2012 20:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I had the best white meat turkey EVER.
It was so fucking good :D.
So full.....
Also yeah, Prome sounds extremely powerful, I/E not town but that is one of the worst reasoning for lynching someone.
Its like a single nail when you need the coffin
this may be the dumbest sentence I've ever read in mafia. Powerful =/= alignment indicative. Also the rest of my abilities make me way over powered. You know one of the things I can do.
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On November 25 2012 20:55 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 20:53 Promethelax wrote:On November 25 2012 20:50 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 25 2012 09:32 Promethelax wrote:
okay, it seems that my role is pretty contentious for Kita and Kier (and probably everyone else who has a name that stars with K) the ability I used last night Roleblocks all players who target a single player with their actions. I took a gamble and assumed that I was the only one with a roleblocking ability because only two people claimed RB'd and I assumed that they both targeted Syllo. I did not want to reveal why I knew that those players targeted Syllo or the correlation with the roleblocks (this is why I haven't yet confronted marv about his targeting Syllo but now that the cat is out of the bag: Marv, what were you trying to do to the Great Leader?). I decided to gamble that i was right and that Sand had targeted Syllo (50% chance at least just from there being only two RB claims) and force him to claim what he had done.
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Why, though? because I thought it was likely that in a 25 player game at least one player would target the leader of the successful d1 quest, I assumed that at least one mafia would target him with a detrimental ability. If no one targeted him he would eventually gain some protection. win-win. But you worked from the assumption that in a 25 player game you're the only one with a roleblocking ability? Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 20:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually I think that its too fast to be for lavos, the first '10' was posted less than 12 hours ago, I think that it is related to an ability.
I also think that the ability is targeted towards a scum player because a town player wouldve told us the reason. WIFOM ftw :D I don't think that's WIFOM. It would be wifom to call someone who tells us about the countdown town, however.
well since both Marv and Sand targeted Syllo it seemed possible but I was wrong. Risk claimed RB today and I didn't do it.
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On November 25 2012 20:55 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 20:45 Promethelax wrote:
okay guys, those of you who have played CT. Any idea what a countdown has to do with anything?
how delayed? Just under an hour now. Was supposed to be at 20:00 KST
exactly 20:00?
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On November 25 2012 10:05 GreYMisT wrote:10
almost exactly on the hour 12 hours ago...
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On November 25 2012 20:59 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 20:57 Promethelax wrote:On November 25 2012 20:55 Hassybaby wrote:On November 25 2012 20:45 Promethelax wrote:
okay guys, those of you who have played CT. Any idea what a countdown has to do with anything?
how delayed? Just under an hour now. Was supposed to be at 20:00 KST exactly 20:00? Yes
clarity. I think you are wrong.
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On November 25 2012 20:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hmm.
Anyone see any significance in the KST? as opposed to CST which is Grey's timezone I think.
Prome, I said it didnt mean much.. Defensive much?
kst is TL timezone. I assume that is the significance.
Not really, I'm not threatened by you being dumb.
I am being defensive but not because you think I'm powerful, I'm defensive because a bunch of generally good players have scum reads on me when I think I've played a pretty townie game for someone who has had as little time as I've had.
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On November 25 2012 20:59 Promethelax wrote:almost exactly on the hour 12 hours ago...
err...10 hours ago. hurble gurble. Me stupid after work.
Acro, glad to have you back. Can you explain to me the contradiction in your play where you distrust Kier's low success modifier but also suggest that you have a similar low modifier.
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On November 25 2012 21:10 Acrofales wrote:
Prom, are there any downsides to your abilty? Or some othe aspect of your role?
essentially the downsides are only if my reads are bad. There are some restrictions on when I can use my claimed ability. There are other aspects of my role which are, in my opinion, less powerful than the claimed aspect. but can be used when the claimed aspect cannot be used.
you can check my games oats, I am trying to tone down my use of IRL excuses but I really do have a ton of stuff to do in my life outside of the game. I think I'm taking a break from mafia after this game. I am not content with my play here and don't want to play when I don't have the time to commit.
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Acro: see my question above.
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