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On November 26 2012 22:10 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 22:07 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 26 2012 22:00 Promethelax wrote: and Acro, scum will have to claim RB because I am not the only player with a RB ability so if they don't laim it and someone else rb'd them that person will know that they are claiming scum. When you were "bluffing" that marv and whoever else (I forget) got roleblocked because they targetted syllo, weren't you working under the assumption that you were the only roleblock ability? I was. But I didn't use that ability d2 and Risk claimed RB. Ergo I am not the only RBer. I mentioned this already. You say all your other abilities are weaker than the protection. I bloody well hope so. But why would you not use it D2?
I can see some scum motivation for claiming not to use it D2, but it means the whole claim is fake and that brings me back to how you knew Marv was targeting Syllo... and I am also confused what point it serves to plant a claim like that in D2. Some town cred?
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On November 26 2012 22:20 marvellosity wrote: also, could everyone agree with me about kita, please.
Trying to put the pieces together, could you expand on your thoughts?
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On November 26 2012 22:18 Promethelax wrote: there is some limit to when I can use that ability and I have at least one other, lesser, ability which I can use on those cycles when I can't use my primary ability. I have a kickass role that, if I was a better player, could be exploited in more ways than I have figured out. Oh, ok. Sniped.
So it does have downsides: you cannot use it every cycle.
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On November 26 2012 22:22 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 22:18 Promethelax wrote: there is some limit to when I can use that ability and I have at least one other, lesser, ability which I can use on those cycles when I can't use my primary ability. I have a kickass role that, if I was a better player, could be exploited in more ways than I have figured out. Oh, ok. Sniped. So it does have downsides: you cannot use it every cycle.
sometimes I can and sometimes I can't. Ummm...hard to explain without revealing the intricacies of the role to mafia. I couldn't last cycle. I will this cycle.
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On November 26 2012 22:24 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 22:22 Acrofales wrote:On November 26 2012 22:18 Promethelax wrote: there is some limit to when I can use that ability and I have at least one other, lesser, ability which I can use on those cycles when I can't use my primary ability. I have a kickass role that, if I was a better player, could be exploited in more ways than I have figured out. Oh, ok. Sniped. So it does have downsides: you cannot use it every cycle. sometimes I can and sometimes I can't. Ummm...hard to explain without revealing the intricacies of the role to mafia. I couldn't last cycle. I will this cycle. Shouldn't have explained further. At least you'll draw a roleblock so our vigis can shoot Toad, Hopeless or lurkers.
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On November 26 2012 22:21 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 22:20 marvellosity wrote: also, could everyone agree with me about kita, please. Trying to put the pieces together, could you expand on your thoughts?
He fits the typical 3rd party profile. Kinda has town interests at heart, but only ish - for example his stuff on sandroba. But is posting less and is less incisive than I expect to see from town kita.
With regards to part of his wincon being in a party, successful or no, he ran for party leader day 1, and his only meaningful post this cycle was insisting he had demonstrated his townieness and should be included in the party, even though absolutely no-one else thinks that.
As regards to the games, they seem out of place as a method for anyone to deal damage. Then there is the fact that mysteriously he's had both games now and no-one else has. It makes much more sense that it's part of his role that he has to play these games than they were inflicted upon him.
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@Marv: I have no clue. I agree that his guessing games seems to be role-related, rather than someone's action, but fucked if I know that that's alignment indicative. 3P does make some sense, given that he is not very interested in scumhunting. I don't know why he wants to be on a party, though (unless it's in his wincon as you say, but the games and the wincon don't seem to go together).
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also this is awesome and makes sense.
Anyway, I don't want to dwell on it too much. I just wanted it out there that it's what I thought (and was worried it was getting buried by you guys arguing )
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Oh, and completely unrelated to this game at all: I am even more impressed by good Cachaça now. No hangover!
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On November 26 2012 22:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 22:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 26 2012 22:20 marvellosity wrote: also, could everyone agree with me about kita, please. Trying to put the pieces together, could you expand on your thoughts? He fits the typical 3rd party profile. Kinda has town interests at heart, but only ish - for example his stuff on sandroba. But is posting less and is less incisive than I expect to see from town kita. With regards to part of his wincon being in a party, successful or no, he ran for party leader day 1, and his only meaningful post this cycle was insisting he had demonstrated his townieness and should be included in the party, even though absolutely no-one else thinks that. As regards to the games, they seem out of place as a method for anyone to deal damage. Then there is the fact that mysteriously he's had both games now and no-one else has. It makes much more sense that it's part of his role that he has to play these games than they were inflicted upon him.
Yeah, I can see that that is more likely 3rd party than town, but the thing that I'm certain of is that he's not scum at this point.... Meaning we can leave him alone, right?
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err...not a brother. A relation.
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On November 26 2012 22:31 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 22:26 marvellosity wrote:On November 26 2012 22:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 26 2012 22:20 marvellosity wrote: also, could everyone agree with me about kita, please. Trying to put the pieces together, could you expand on your thoughts? He fits the typical 3rd party profile. Kinda has town interests at heart, but only ish - for example his stuff on sandroba. But is posting less and is less incisive than I expect to see from town kita. With regards to part of his wincon being in a party, successful or no, he ran for party leader day 1, and his only meaningful post this cycle was insisting he had demonstrated his townieness and should be included in the party, even though absolutely no-one else thinks that. As regards to the games, they seem out of place as a method for anyone to deal damage. Then there is the fact that mysteriously he's had both games now and no-one else has. It makes much more sense that it's part of his role that he has to play these games than they were inflicted upon him. Yeah, I can see that that is more likely 3rd party than town, but the thing that I'm certain of is that he's not scum at this point.... Meaning we can leave him alone, right?
I'm not certain he's not scum, but I like my explanation. Yes, we don't have to worry about him too much right now I think. Possibly. Just don't trust him.
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Marv: why would scum put up their (presumably) three best players as candidates day 1? That is Sand, Toad and Kita.
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On November 26 2012 22:51 Promethelax wrote: Marv: why would scum put up their (presumably) three best players as candidates day 1? That is Sand, Toad and Kita.
oh yeah. that does sound kinda unlikely.
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Hey marv, you slept for like 6 hours? :D I agree that kita doesnt seem like scum, he has not been pushing anything other than his own election into a party.
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On November 26 2012 22:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 22:51 Promethelax wrote: Marv: why would scum put up their (presumably) three best players as candidates day 1? That is Sand, Toad and Kita. oh yeah. that does sound kinda unlikely. On the other hand: why not?
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On November 26 2012 22:57 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 22:54 marvellosity wrote:On November 26 2012 22:51 Promethelax wrote: Marv: why would scum put up their (presumably) three best players as candidates day 1? That is Sand, Toad and Kita. oh yeah. that does sound kinda unlikely. On the other hand: why not?
I understand running 2, because you can try to consolidate behind the 1 who looks more likely. 3 seems like spreading yourself too thin.
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if 3 of them are scum, who credible is gonna push their cases for them? No one wins if no one votes for them beside themselves. Im just sad that my initial read on Toad was wrong
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