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On November 26 2012 23:34 syllogism wrote:
I've very strong reasons for considering Prom mafia, so how about directing your damage that way. Also you are just plain wrong in saying that whether his role seems ridiculous or not is irrelevant, just like you were yesterday when you were telling everyone how wrong they were about sandroba.
If you are town, how about not arguing against me every single day
syllo, perhaps you do, but you're not communicating them very effectively to the rest of us, which is kinda important.
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yeah, okay, I'm tired and being more of an asshole than I need to be. I'll leave this in the capable hands of literally everyone who isn't Syllo and I'll see ya'll in a few hours.
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On November 26 2012 23:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 23:34 syllogism wrote:
I've very strong reasons for considering Prom mafia, so how about directing your damage that way. Also you are just plain wrong in saying that whether his role seems ridiculous or not is irrelevant, just like you were yesterday when you were telling everyone how wrong they were about sandroba.
If you are town, how about not arguing against me every single day syllo, perhaps you do, but you're not communicating them very effectively to the rest of us, which is kinda important.
As a basically confirmed town with some deserved credibility and as someone who does not make strong statements lightly how about taking my word for it
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On November 26 2012 23:37 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 23:36 marvellosity wrote:On November 26 2012 23:34 syllogism wrote:
I've very strong reasons for considering Prom mafia, so how about directing your damage that way. Also you are just plain wrong in saying that whether his role seems ridiculous or not is irrelevant, just like you were yesterday when you were telling everyone how wrong they were about sandroba.
If you are town, how about not arguing against me every single day syllo, perhaps you do, but you're not communicating them very effectively to the rest of us, which is kinda important. As a basically confirmed town with some deserved credibility and as someone who does not make strong statements lightly how about taking my word for it
No. You should know by now I do like sheeping you, having done so for practically the entirity of Bureaucracy, voted you first here for party leader, and finally voted sandroba on the basis I trusted you.
But if something doesn't make sense to me I'm not gonna blindly follow. You should understand this.
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On November 26 2012 23:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 23:28 Djodref wrote:Ok guys, just a quick comment regarding the last developments of the thread, I find that Prome is getting way too much heat for the all the role-related stuff. Arguments like "your role is imb4 for town, you must be scum" are wrong, just plain wrong. Never trust Grey, right ? Moreover, the events corroborate the story. So I don't see why we should doubt this at this point. Regarding Acro, I personally think that he is taking too much heat, even if not wanting to be in the party seems suspicious at first sight. I would say it's role or ability related (his own ability or targeted by another player). And like, there are players whose behavior is not acceptable at all. For example, let's say that Toad, VE, Adam and S&B are the mafia players left. They would have nothing do to and could just watch the town atmosphere rotten. There are too many damn lurkers and I hate this because we have nothing for or against them ! Anyway, I have decided to step up and I'm going to officially announce that I'm going to inflict some damage tonight, and it's going to be one player among iamp, S&B, VE and Adam. I have not been using this since the beginning of this game so it's gonna hurt. Be warned. I would like anyone who is pissed off by their attitude (seriously Adam, you and your "I'm lurking and I assume" attitude, I hope that you are going to die tonight), to join me and to inflict some damage on these players. I'm on this for real and I would guess that some other players would have no problem to join me as well  Any ability you have to pressure the fucking lurkers (ie not using against the mafia), just use it against them, for the future sake of the town and also to teach them how to play.Who is in ? please don't hit s&b, I've metad him town for the moment.
That's confusing. I'd like to think I know S&B about as well as the next guy, but he's still completely null to me. On the other hand, I have a slight meta town read on Adam.
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On November 26 2012 23:40 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 23:30 marvellosity wrote:On November 26 2012 23:28 Djodref wrote:Ok guys, just a quick comment regarding the last developments of the thread, I find that Prome is getting way too much heat for the all the role-related stuff. Arguments like "your role is imb4 for town, you must be scum" are wrong, just plain wrong. Never trust Grey, right ? Moreover, the events corroborate the story. So I don't see why we should doubt this at this point. Regarding Acro, I personally think that he is taking too much heat, even if not wanting to be in the party seems suspicious at first sight. I would say it's role or ability related (his own ability or targeted by another player). And like, there are players whose behavior is not acceptable at all. For example, let's say that Toad, VE, Adam and S&B are the mafia players left. They would have nothing do to and could just watch the town atmosphere rotten. There are too many damn lurkers and I hate this because we have nothing for or against them ! Anyway, I have decided to step up and I'm going to officially announce that I'm going to inflict some damage tonight, and it's going to be one player among iamp, S&B, VE and Adam. I have not been using this since the beginning of this game so it's gonna hurt. Be warned. I would like anyone who is pissed off by their attitude (seriously Adam, you and your "I'm lurking and I assume" attitude, I hope that you are going to die tonight), to join me and to inflict some damage on these players. I'm on this for real and I would guess that some other players would have no problem to join me as well Any ability you have to pressure the fucking lurkers (ie not using against the mafia), just use it against them, for the future sake of the town and also to teach them how to play.Who is in ? please don't hit s&b, I've metad him town for the moment. That's confusing. I'd like to think I know S&B about as well as the next guy, but he's still completely null to me. On the other hand, I have a slight meta town read on Adam.
it's not strong, but I'm definitely leaning town.
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Adam must have one helluva meta.... Guess I'll go check, any game suggestions?
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What I've revealed in-thread makes perfect sense and I've reasons beyond what I've revealed. I will reveal those reasons when doing so is more beneficial than keeping the reasons secret.
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go look at Syllo's filter he said d1 that people on a successful quest should not be considered confirmed town.
going to sleep for real now.
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On November 26 2012 23:42 syllogism wrote:
What I've revealed in-thread makes perfect sense and I've reasons beyond what I've revealed. I will reveal those reasons when doing so is more beneficial than keeping the reasons secret.
As you wish, but in the meantime I'm not going along with what you say because I don't understand it. So we'll wait until you decide to tell us more / get it all together, I guess.
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On November 26 2012 23:32 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 23:28 Djodref wrote:Ok guys, just a quick comment regarding the last developments of the thread, I find that Prome is getting way too much heat for the all the role-related stuff. Arguments like "your role is imb4 for town, you must be scum" are wrong, just plain wrong. Never trust Grey, right ? Moreover, the events corroborate the story. So I don't see why we should doubt this at this point. Regarding Acro, I personally think that he is taking too much heat, even if not wanting to be in the party seems suspicious at first sight. I would say it's role or ability related (his own ability or targeted by another player). And like, there are players whose behavior is not acceptable at all. For example, let's say that Toad, VE, Adam and S&B are the mafia players left. They would have nothing do to and could just watch the town atmosphere rotten. There are too many damn lurkers and I hate this because we have nothing for or against them ! Anyway, I have decided to step up and I'm going to officially announce that I'm going to inflict some damage tonight, and it's going to be one player among iamp, S&B, VE and Adam. I have not been using this since the beginning of this game so it's gonna hurt. Be warned. I would like anyone who is pissed off by their attitude (seriously Adam, you and your "I'm lurking and I assume" attitude, I hope that you are going to die tonight), to join me and to inflict some damage on these players. I'm on this for real and I would guess that some other players would have no problem to join me as well Any ability you have to pressure the fucking lurkers (ie not using against the mafia), just use it against them, for the future sake of the town and also to teach them how to play.Who is in ? yeah I hate lurkers and killing them over confirmed mafia is good play.../sarcasm Djo: you aren't an idiot, don't play like one. A vig shot on a confirmed scum player is great that means to lynch the scummy lurkers we'll need a discussion and cases an no god damn sheep votes.
Unfortunately, I think that hitting Toad would be a waste of my ability at best (heal or protection) a used against the town with a buss at worst. I've realized with the latest comments of Adam that we had no tool to pressure the lurker. We cannot use the "Lynch a Lurker" policy because we don't have so many chances to lynch, so we absolutely have to hit the mafia.
Actually, I have really given some thoughts about it. We have decided our party quite fast, and we should be glad about it. But the rest of the discussions during this cycle have been pointless in my opinion and I've noticed that the atmosphere is not good enough to allow us to figure out how we should play and win this game. We lack the usual information from the flips, we lack the participation for a bunch of players and the most vocal players are just creating a fucking amount of noise. I want to put the cat among the pigeons ! I'm gonna shot among the lurkers !
I really hope that some players join me and threaten them into participating. So, if you have already sent your PM to the hosts and that the target is Toad, beware. Be careful, because the mafia team knows who you are targeting. It is going to backfire at town imo... So you should better join me in my quest and just make them shit in their pants. There is a good probability for one of them to be a mafia player anyway
Unfair and stupid ? Well, participating is the essence if this game and they have failed at it. They deserve it.
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Adam meta:
Scum in LVI, town in Whose line is it.
As scum he is far less cocky.
As I said at the start of the game, though, my experience playing with Adam as either alignment is that he lurks the crap out of the thread and gets modkilled for inactivity.
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On November 26 2012 23:46 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 23:32 Promethelax wrote:On November 26 2012 23:28 Djodref wrote:Ok guys, just a quick comment regarding the last developments of the thread, I find that Prome is getting way too much heat for the all the role-related stuff. Arguments like "your role is imb4 for town, you must be scum" are wrong, just plain wrong. Never trust Grey, right ? Moreover, the events corroborate the story. So I don't see why we should doubt this at this point. Regarding Acro, I personally think that he is taking too much heat, even if not wanting to be in the party seems suspicious at first sight. I would say it's role or ability related (his own ability or targeted by another player). And like, there are players whose behavior is not acceptable at all. For example, let's say that Toad, VE, Adam and S&B are the mafia players left. They would have nothing do to and could just watch the town atmosphere rotten. There are too many damn lurkers and I hate this because we have nothing for or against them ! Anyway, I have decided to step up and I'm going to officially announce that I'm going to inflict some damage tonight, and it's going to be one player among iamp, S&B, VE and Adam. I have not been using this since the beginning of this game so it's gonna hurt. Be warned. I would like anyone who is pissed off by their attitude (seriously Adam, you and your "I'm lurking and I assume" attitude, I hope that you are going to die tonight), to join me and to inflict some damage on these players. I'm on this for real and I would guess that some other players would have no problem to join me as well Any ability you have to pressure the fucking lurkers (ie not using against the mafia), just use it against them, for the future sake of the town and also to teach them how to play.Who is in ? yeah I hate lurkers and killing them over confirmed mafia is good play.../sarcasm Djo: you aren't an idiot, don't play like one. A vig shot on a confirmed scum player is great that means to lynch the scummy lurkers we'll need a discussion and cases an no god damn sheep votes. Unfortunately, I think that hitting Toad would be a waste of my ability at best (heal or protection) a used against the town with a buss at worst. I've realized with the latest comments of Adam that we had no tool to pressure the lurker. We cannot use the "Lynch a Lurker" policy because we don't have so many chances to lynch, so we absolutely have to hit the mafia. Actually, I have really given some thoughts about it. We have decided our party quite fast, and we should be glad about it. But the rest of the discussions during this cycle have been pointless in my opinion and I've noticed that the atmosphere is not good enough to allow us to figure out how we should play and win this game. We lack the usual information from the flips, we lack the participation for a bunch of players and the most vocal players are just creating a fucking amount of noise. I want to put the cat among the pigeons ! I'm gonna shot among the lurkers !I really hope that some players join me and threaten them into participating. So, if you have already sent your PM to the hosts and that the target is Toad, beware. Be careful, because the mafia team knows who you are targeting. It is going to backfire at town imo... So you should better join me in my quest and just make them shit in their pants. There is a good probability for one of them to be a mafia player anyway Unfair and stupid ? Well, participating is the essence if this game and they have failed at it. They deserve it.
So you're claiming a vigi role? All right...
I would say that Toad is a low priority target, as in, please don't shoot him. From the two flips we've seen, and based off the abilities that have claimed that can do damage, there is no reason to think we could one-shot Toad. So targeting people we won't be able to get to lynch anytime soon is definitely a better option.
Now to be a bit of a pessimist: There's a reason that people lurk. Maybe they're busy, or maybe they just don't give a shit about this game. Whatever the reason, I wouldn't expect vigis this game to motivate them to change their gameplay. Especially with an uncoordinated assault against multiple lurkers that will take multiple turns to have any chance at killing someone...
I have one question for you:
If you could narrow the lurker field down to 2-3 targets, who would you propose that town target and why?
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Djo I think that this is actually a good idea, since we have no other obvious scum other that Toad.
Cycle will end in about 9 hours, There is still time for scumhunting BOYS. Dont get lazy and just wait until Toad flips before scumhunting. Please also think about ability use, like heals and attacks and roleblocks and stuff.
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if we are talking about substantial damage djo you better give a better reason than just a lurker.
Why not to shoot me:
1.i have been getting hit
2.i was healed
3.im awesome.
Also if you don't take me out of that list of people you might shoot i will stop you.
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Imho Iamperfection is still by far the scummiest lurkers out of the lurking lot. Maybe Drazerk, but I'm biased because since HRM it is my mission in any mafia game to kill Drazerk.
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On November 27 2012 00:01 Acrofales wrote:
Imho Iamperfection is still by far the scummiest lurkers out of the lurking lot. Maybe Drazerk, but I'm biased because since HRM it is my mission in any mafia game to kill Drazerk.
yeah i don't agree
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On November 27 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:01 Acrofales wrote:
Imho Iamperfection is still by far the scummiest lurkers out of the lurking lot. Maybe Drazerk, but I'm biased because since HRM it is my mission in any mafia game to kill Drazerk. yeah i don't agree
someones paying attention
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Djodref, as I think you possibly town, I'm going to say: attack me at your peril, It may not end well for you.
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Oh wait, I forgot VE. A silent VE is something I don't know. It is very wrong. Combine that with BioSC's total lack of commitment to the game and I would absolutely agree with VE getting shot in the face. He's hard to read even when he's participating in the game. This is just terrible.
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