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On November 27 2012 00:41 Adam4167 wrote:
You imply have not contributed, yet I clearly outlined people I had town reads on both day 1 and 3 and gave reasons why and also my prime scum suspect on day 2 detailing why when the lynch was available.
Would you rather I engage in idle setup speculation that is unverifiable?
Why are you still posting ? Shouldn't you be back in your cave ? You realized that your bluff would not stop me ?
I want you to be active and try to scum hunt. Go ahead...
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On November 27 2012 00:46 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:43 Djodref wrote:On November 27 2012 00:39 marvellosity wrote:On November 27 2012 00:35 Djodref wrote:On November 27 2012 00:30 Acrofales wrote:On November 27 2012 00:14 iamperfection wrote:
I agree with you on VE he never is quiet from what i remember. It's an enigma. He obviously can't throw the whole hissyfit dealio with Toad again, because nobody would believe him, but he has disappeared off the face of the earth after being really enthusiastic in the signup thread and sounding pretty bumbed about not getting in. All VE has done this game is to vote Sandroba, with a fairly bland justification (basically saying sheeping Syllo is good) and give a blurb about how Hapa is scum. I especially like this post here: On November 26 2012 00:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm back!
It's obviously too late to run for leader, unfortunately...but I'm reading what I missed now and I'll be back with thoughts soon. We're now 24 hours later, that makes him king of the lurkers. From all I know, I was lurking as shit when we played scum together in the Looney Game when he replaced Hiro. I could hit VE, but I could aslo hit Adam or iamp or S&B. One of them is going to regret for not having contributed. we want to hit scum, not non-contributing townies. I don't want to target Toad tonight for the reason that the mafia knows he is going to be targeted. Who should I hit according to you ? By the way, how do you know they are town ? And if you have a better idea to force them to contribute, I'm open to discuss about that problem, because it's going to be a problem on the long term. If you fail to do this, I'm shooting one of them. I think he's trying to say that you should shoot a lurker who you think is probably scum, and not a lurker who you are just angry with for not participating in the game.
Right, this. Given we have to fight Lavos eventually and we have no idea what we will need, who we will need etc, someone blithely shooting into lurkers because he's pissed off at them is the epitome of retarded.
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On November 27 2012 00:46 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:43 Djodref wrote:On November 27 2012 00:39 marvellosity wrote:On November 27 2012 00:35 Djodref wrote:On November 27 2012 00:30 Acrofales wrote:On November 27 2012 00:14 iamperfection wrote:
I agree with you on VE he never is quiet from what i remember. It's an enigma. He obviously can't throw the whole hissyfit dealio with Toad again, because nobody would believe him, but he has disappeared off the face of the earth after being really enthusiastic in the signup thread and sounding pretty bumbed about not getting in. All VE has done this game is to vote Sandroba, with a fairly bland justification (basically saying sheeping Syllo is good) and give a blurb about how Hapa is scum. I especially like this post here: On November 26 2012 00:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm back!
It's obviously too late to run for leader, unfortunately...but I'm reading what I missed now and I'll be back with thoughts soon. We're now 24 hours later, that makes him king of the lurkers. From all I know, I was lurking as shit when we played scum together in the Looney Game when he replaced Hiro. I could hit VE, but I could aslo hit Adam or iamp or S&B. One of them is going to regret for not having contributed. we want to hit scum, not non-contributing townies. Sorry marv, my wording was wrong. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here. But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ? I don't want to target Toad tonight for the reason that the mafia knows he is going to be targeted. Who should I hit according to you ? By the way, how do you know they are town ? And if you have a better idea to force them to contribute, I'm open to discuss about that problem, because it's going to be a problem on the long term. If you fail to do this, I'm shooting one of them. Again, you shoot for scum, and if I find out you have not done so I will shout at you both in game and post-game and try to totally marginalise you as a player to be listened to. And I have the influence to do that. See, I can make threats too.
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Why i am posting should be self evident: to stop you from taking unnecessary damage. Was it not your objective to get me posting? Why are you antagonizing me about posting now that I am posting?
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On November 27 2012 00:41 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:01 Acrofales wrote:
Imho Iamperfection is still by far the scummiest lurkers out of the lurking lot. Maybe Drazerk, but I'm biased because since HRM it is my mission in any mafia game to kill Drazerk. I can tell... Notice how even SnB hasn't acted against me? I thought I'd bring it up to you since you know our relationship a little too well
Of course I know our relationship well. If you recall Bastard 2 I very very very nearly shot you in the face with my vig shot, but I didn't think you were scum and decided to play to my wincon rather than personal satisfaction. In Caller's game you might recall that SnB were scum and I'm not sure the scum QT was ever posted, but we were both pretty damned happy to get to shoot you in the face. It definitely didn't help my feeling of vengeance that you had a double vig shot that night that you used to take us out, basically based on shit-and-giggles: you never had a scumread, you just knew we weren't in your particular team of slavs.
Nevertheless, this game I have no clue what you are. I don't honestly think you'd be the best vig shot tonight, but I really wouldn't object to you dying.
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@Acro and marv
Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.
My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ?
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On November 27 2012 00:54 Djodref wrote:
@Acro and marv
Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.
My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ?
I know precisely who I would shoot but I'm not sure how much you want me to give you one name.
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On November 27 2012 00:53 Adam4167 wrote:
Why i am posting should be self evident: to stop you from taking unnecessary damage. Was it not your objective to get me posting? Why are you antagonizing me about posting now that I am posting?
No, that was the main goal. I was pissed off, like seriously. So, please excuse me for my temper and participate freely. I'm not going to antagonize you anymore. I would like to know who you would like to lynch tomorrow if Toad dies tonight and we have effectively a lynch to use tomorrow. Don't be afraid to fully share your thoughts.
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On November 27 2012 00:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:54 Djodref wrote:
@Acro and marv
Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.
My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ? I know precisely who I would shoot but I'm not sure how much you want me to give you one name.
Ok, so let's discuss then. Let's make some charades 
If I was crazy and raging and about to use my full force against VE. What could you say to me to prevent me from committing this crime, assuming you are having a soft spot (ie town read or at least non-scum read) for him ?
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On November 27 2012 01:01 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:56 marvellosity wrote:On November 27 2012 00:54 Djodref wrote:
@Acro and marv
Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.
My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ? I know precisely who I would shoot but I'm not sure how much you want me to give you one name. Ok, so let's discuss then. Let's make some charades If I was crazy and raging and about to use my full force against VE. What could you say to me to prevent me from committing this crime, assuming you are having a soft spot (ie town read or at least non-scum read) for him ?
/looks at acting.
Hot air balloon!
Am I right?
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On November 27 2012 01:01 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:56 marvellosity wrote:On November 27 2012 00:54 Djodref wrote:
@Acro and marv
Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.
My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ? I know precisely who I would shoot but I'm not sure how much you want me to give you one name. Ok, so let's discuss then. Let's make some charades If I was crazy and raging and about to use my full force against VE. What could you say to me to prevent me from committing this crime, assuming you are having a soft spot (ie town read or at least non-scum read) for him ?
I don't have a soft spot for him 
Well, not in this game. Generally speaking I have a soft spot for VE ^^
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On November 27 2012 00:46 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:44 marvellosity wrote:On November 27 2012 00:42 iamperfection wrote:
keep it up djo and you wont be hitting anyone until later.
I do not take kindly to threats against my hp iamp, stop being petulant and if you're town do something useful with your ability. Well me stopping him from hurting me would be good for town wouldn't it.
Could you realize that I'm just waiting for you to contribute constructively as any townie should do ? That's all I'm waiting from you. Do that and block whoever you think it is in the best interest of town to block.
I offer you a chance to prove me that you are town
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On November 27 2012 01:02 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 01:01 Djodref wrote:On November 27 2012 00:56 marvellosity wrote:On November 27 2012 00:54 Djodref wrote:
@Acro and marv
Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.
My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ? I know precisely who I would shoot but I'm not sure how much you want me to give you one name. Ok, so let's discuss then. Let's make some charades If I was crazy and raging and about to use my full force against VE. What could you say to me to prevent me from committing this crime, assuming you are having a soft spot (ie town read or at least non-scum read) for him ? /looks at acting. Hot air balloon! Am I right?
What do you mean ? I have some difficulties to understand idioms sometimes ^^
More seriously, do you have anything to say in VE's defense ?
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On November 27 2012 01:04 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:46 iamperfection wrote:On November 27 2012 00:44 marvellosity wrote:On November 27 2012 00:42 iamperfection wrote:
keep it up djo and you wont be hitting anyone until later.
I do not take kindly to threats against my hp iamp, stop being petulant and if you're town do something useful with your ability. Well me stopping him from hurting me would be good for town wouldn't it. Could you realize that I'm just waiting for you to contribute constructively as any townie should do ? That's all I'm waiting from you. Do that and block whoever you think it is in the best interest of town to block. I offer you a chance to prove me that you are town
lets just say djo i have seen things that make it difficult for me to contribute in my normal way. Also your pretty smart djo look through my filter you can figure it out.
Also Clarity and marv would be on my do not lynch ever list for this game.
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On November 27 2012 00:54 Djodref wrote:
@Acro and marv
Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.
My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ?
Hi Risen
Anywho, I'm awake and alive, just waiting until we're closer to deadline to post my case. Not a lynch day and there's no need to give scum a reason to change what they're doing, which is why I also dislike this talk of which lurker to shoot.
Djo why are you trying to get people's town reads amongst the lurkers?
1) you honestly want input, which would be fine if it wasn't also telling scum who amongst the lurkers who to shoot (don't direct blues)
2) you're scum and want to know who amongst the lurkers to shoot
See how both points are bad for town? Do your own scum hunting, post your reasoning for your shot right before deadline, and if you've been honest in your hunting I don't think anyone would actually be mad at you. You shouldn't let the thread sway you in your shot so much.
Then again maybe you have a kill shot and want to treat this like a lynch, in which case I think you should just kill Toad. A downside to toad being checked is that on days with near confirmed lynches discussion tends to drop off.
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On November 27 2012 01:06 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 01:02 Acrofales wrote:On November 27 2012 01:01 Djodref wrote:On November 27 2012 00:56 marvellosity wrote:On November 27 2012 00:54 Djodref wrote:
@Acro and marv
Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.
My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ? I know precisely who I would shoot but I'm not sure how much you want me to give you one name. Ok, so let's discuss then. Let's make some charades If I was crazy and raging and about to use my full force against VE. What could you say to me to prevent me from committing this crime, assuming you are having a soft spot (ie town read or at least non-scum read) for him ? /looks at acting. Hot air balloon! Am I right? What do you mean ? I have some difficulties to understand idioms sometimes ^^ More seriously, do you have anything to say in VE's defense ?
It was a joke. You wanted to play charades
Anyway, I obviously have absolutely nothing to say in VE's defense. See a few posts up in my filter what I think of VE.
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If there is a townie with a kill-shot they should shoot toad, but otherwise don't bother, because if he doesn't die tonight odds are he'll be lynched tomorrow, making the use of your ability wasteful.
I definitely understand where you're coming from Djo, you want this to be something like a lurker lynch policy, but I have to go with marv, shoot for scum... not lurkers. If you can find a lurker that's scummy feel free to shoot them though.
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On November 27 2012 01:17 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:54 Djodref wrote:
@Acro and marv
Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.
My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ? Hi Risen Anywho, I'm awake and alive, just waiting until we're closer to deadline to post my case. Not a lynch day and there's no need to give scum a reason to change what they're doing, which is why I also dislike this talk of which lurker to shoot. Djo why are you trying to get people's town reads amongst the lurkers? 1) you honestly want input, which would be fine if it wasn't also telling scum who amongst the lurkers who to shoot (don't direct blues) 2) you're scum and want to know who amongst the lurkers to shoot See how both points are bad for town? Do your own scum hunting, post your reasoning for your shot right before deadline, and if you've been honest in your hunting I don't think anyone would actually be mad at you. You shouldn't let the thread sway you in your shot so much. Then again maybe you have a kill shot and want to treat this like a lynch, in which case I think you should just kill Toad. A downside to toad being checked is that on days with near confirmed lynches discussion tends to drop off.
I don't personally think that targeting Toad is a good idea for tonight for reasons I've stated before.
1) I want the lurkers input most of all. I also want people attention to get directed towards the lurkers. I guess that everyone is blue in this game, so your point about the blues is irrelevant here.
2) I'm not scum and I want more contents from some players to be able to derived an alignment from their filters in another way than flipping a coin. Can you seriously make a case against Adam ? Or VE ? I've tried but I'm basically down to "lurky and scummy, or just ultra lurky" so I just want more from them.
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On November 27 2012 01:14 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 01:04 Djodref wrote:On November 27 2012 00:46 iamperfection wrote:On November 27 2012 00:44 marvellosity wrote:On November 27 2012 00:42 iamperfection wrote:
keep it up djo and you wont be hitting anyone until later.
I do not take kindly to threats against my hp iamp, stop being petulant and if you're town do something useful with your ability. Well me stopping him from hurting me would be good for town wouldn't it. Could you realize that I'm just waiting for you to contribute constructively as any townie should do ? That's all I'm waiting from you. Do that and block whoever you think it is in the best interest of town to block. I offer you a chance to prove me that you are town lets just say djo i have seen things that make it difficult for me to contribute in my normal way. Also your pretty smart djo look through my filter you can figure it out. Also Clarity and marv would be on my do not lynch ever list for this game.
Who would you like to lynch tomorrow if Toad dies tonight ?
What do you think about Prom ?
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I decided I hate Prom and Iamperfection for hiding obvious crumbs to things that I don't understand.
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