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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 12:24 GMT
#5613
Djodref was. For mafia, being "confirmed" as a townie in this format is worth sacrificing some KP for.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 12:25 GMT
#5617
The shield is supposed to protect from 200 damage, so that would mean you got hit for 325 and djodref for only 100. Does this sound reasonable and logical to you?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 12:35 GMT
#5624
On December 02 2012 21:30 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 21:24 syllogism wrote:
Djodref was. For mafia, being "confirmed" as a townie in this format is worth sacrificing some KP for.


Someone (presumably the scum), hammered Dieno for 445 damage on N4.

You think they both protected him and dumped what i presume is a majority of their nightly KP into him?


I don't know if that's all from mafia, but yes that kind of play makes sense in this format if Djodref is mafia. I have to read the post where Djodref claims the save as claiming makes no sense if you can just stay hidden and protect the player for all eternity. I think at the time of the claim we already had enough "confirmed" townies to form a team.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 12:39 GMT
#5626
Anyway, this speculation all hinges on the mission failing. If it doesn't fail I'll obviously drop my suspicions.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 12:43 GMT
#5628
On December 02 2012 21:41 Acrofales wrote:
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On December 02 2012 21:35 syllogism wrote:
On December 02 2012 21:30 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 02 2012 21:24 syllogism wrote:
Djodref was. For mafia, being "confirmed" as a townie in this format is worth sacrificing some KP for.


Someone (presumably the scum), hammered Dieno for 445 damage on N4.

You think they both protected him and dumped what i presume is a majority of their nightly KP into him?


I don't know if that's all from mafia, but yes that kind of play makes sense in this format if Djodref is mafia. I have to read the post where Djodref claims the save as claiming makes no sense if you can just stay hidden and protect the player for all eternity. I think at the time of the claim we already had enough "confirmed" townies to form a team.

What? You think it makes sense for scum to
1. Blow all their KP on someone they know is unkillable
2. Blow an incredibly strong protection power on town

Just to get Djodref into a party?

I don't really understand how mafia is supposed to win this game. They don't seem to have enough KP to kill townies faster than we even confirm them. It seems to me they have to do everything they can to be included in the party. Again, I'm trying to make the game make sense in case the mission today fails.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 12:52 GMT
#5631
Stalling? Toad flipped a role that allows summoning lavos early.

I think the options we are picking only affect the amount of damage the town aligned members on the party take.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 12:59 GMT
#5639
That isn't a very rational explanation, as mafia is only interested in shooting at people who are confirmed town or been on the party. Why claim your ability at all? As long as mafia isn't interested in you, Dieno can not die.

Why do you think the amount of damage you took is important? Early on you were suspecting someone of lying about it, although in retrospect mafia isn't particularly afraid of taking some damage so they could have even targeted one of their own on purpose.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 13:05 GMT
#5643
Also Djodref, were you not afraid of roleblocks at all? Were you that convinced that mafia has no roleblocker left?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 13:16 GMT
#5646
I don't understand why you keep saying they targeted you, Prom. Are you saying your damage sharing only works one way and it is not, in fact, a protective ability?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 13:26 GMT
#5654
It seems strange to me to use that powerful ability on Dienosore, even with the frog claim. It also seems dubious that your role isn't affected by roleblocks. I do not believe that you have actually asked the host whether it is. I guess we will know more after today.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 13:43 GMT
#5657
Djodref: What is your time period?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 13:51 GMT
#5661
So it doesn't say that you are Alfador?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 14:24 GMT
#5670
Djodref you said that you "also suspect that I could get an ability if [you] get the chance to have a seat on the party". Why did you suspect that?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 14:29 GMT
#5671
On November 30 2012 00:15 Djodref wrote:
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On November 30 2012 00:10 iamperfection wrote:
hey if anyone thinks im not town say it now.

If not i say its time i get in the party.


I think that we should prioritize people who need to be in the party for ability related stuff or because they have bad ass role like robo or frog with a possible high hidden value.
I believe that you are town but I would prefer you to remain non "confirmed" town if you don't mind. I think that the protection type roles like you and me shouldn't try to get under the spotlight too much. I would vote a party with you as a member though...

Why did neither of these two things apply to you Dienosore? You are just a cat with presumably a low hidden modifier and you are also an extremely powerful protective role.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 14:30 GMT
#5672
EBWOP: Djodref, not Dienosore
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 14:48 GMT
#5675
Answer the other question, the one you chose to ignore
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 14:50 GMT
#5676
Your PM allegedly doesn't even say what your era is and presumably also nothing about you getting more abilities in that era. Your answers are highly unsatisfactory, but I guess we will see. Pretty convenient that Dieno ended up dying and mafia didn't even feel like shooting at anyone on the party.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 15:22 GMT
#5685
I agree, it's a stretch. I didn't like how he started speculating about the mission potentially failing and it feels to me mafia is helpless with all these powerful roles present in the game. I think it's more likely than not that djodref is town right now, but if the mission fails I'm not inclined to believe that it was because Dienosore died.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 15:34 GMT
#5686
On December 03 2012 00:16 iamperfection wrote:
Also I have been trying to get on team does that make me scum sylo?

You haven't made nonsensical excuses as to why you should be included and haven't played down other potential candidates for reasons that also apply to yourself.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 02 2012 15:43 GMT
#5688
On December 03 2012 00:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On December 03 2012 00:34 syllogism wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:16 iamperfection wrote:
Also I have been trying to get on team does that make me scum sylo?

You haven't made nonsensical excuses as to why you should be included and haven't played down other potential candidates for reasons that also apply to yourself.


Djo's reasoning makes sense to me. He felt he was a target and being on the party made it more likely he would be protected, you disagree?

But he is the one who made himself a target by claiming when there was no reason to claim, admittedly he isn't the only one guilty of this. It also doesn't seem likely to me that a cat has a lot of HP, but perhaps he just didn't think his claim through at all. The thing is, imagine some lower profile player having his role and never claiming. He would make one player invulnerable for the duration of the whole game and mafia wouldn't be able to do anything about it, unless they have some sort of day actions, but that likely outs their player and they can't even know if the protected person is vulnerable to day actions.
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