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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 14:15 GMT
#3647
mostly curious as to what his response will be, he can refuse. I have the right to do whatever I damn well please, thanks.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 14:19 GMT
#3651
I still don't see anything we as town gain from a full roleclaim from me so nope. I mostly want Kita to tell me I figured out his role even though I had never even heard of Chrono Trigger until this thread.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 14:21 GMT
#3652
On November 26 2012 23:18 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 23:13 Promethelax wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:03 Promethelax wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
I can see it happening, but on the balance of probability I would presume not. And that's what I usually work with.


so kita=/=scum, Kita=3p in your mind?


yeah, 3rd party is my best guess. And unlike some other people I don't throw it around lightly (too many 3rd party reads in this game). My last two 3rd party reads (rock band, liquid city) have been bang on.



you were scum in LC but you were magical town jailer of doom in Rockband so I'll accept that.

Kita: name claim please?

What do you feel Kita's claim will do for town at the moment?

PS. What changed all of a sudden that you are here to micromanage the game (your normal playstyle)?

I'm pulling an all nighter to write a 15 page term paper and I like mafia more than term paper.

see above for what I want from Kita's name claim. It isn't about benefit to town. I just wanna be right.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 14:32 GMT
#3657
On November 26 2012 23:28 Djodref wrote:
Ok guys, just a quick comment regarding the last developments of the thread, I find that Prome is getting way too much heat for the all the role-related stuff. Arguments like "your role is imb4 for town, you must be scum" are wrong, just plain wrong.
Never trust Grey, right ?
Moreover, the events corroborate the story. So I don't see why we should doubt this at this point.

Regarding Acro, I personally think that he is taking too much heat, even if not wanting to be in the party seems suspicious at first sight. I would say it's role or ability related (his own ability or targeted by another player). And like, there are players whose behavior is not acceptable at all.

For example, let's say that Toad, VE, Adam and S&B are the mafia players left. They would have nothing do to and could just watch the town atmosphere rotten. There are too many damn lurkers and I hate this because we have nothing for or against them !

Anyway, I have decided to step up and I'm going to officially announce that I'm going to inflict some damage tonight, and it's going to be one player among iamp, S&B, VE and Adam. I have not been using this since the beginning of this game so it's gonna hurt. Be warned.

I would like anyone who is pissed off by their attitude (seriously Adam, you and your "I'm lurking and I assume" attitude, I hope that you are going to die tonight), to join me and to inflict some damage on these players. I'm on this for real and I would guess that some other players would have no problem to join me as well
Any ability you have to pressure the fucking lurkers (ie not using against the mafia), just use it against them, for the future sake of the town and also to teach them how to play.

Who is in ?


yeah I hate lurkers and killing them over confirmed mafia is good play.../sarcasm
Djo: you aren't an idiot, don't play like one. A vig shot on a confirmed scum player is great that means to lynch the scummy lurkers we'll need a discussion and cases an no god damn sheep votes.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 14:34 GMT
#3659
On November 26 2012 23:30 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 26 2012 23:27 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
if 3 of them are scum, who credible is gonna push their cases for them? No one wins if no one votes for them beside themselves. Im just sad that my initial read on Toad was wrong

Theoretically, the more of them that run the higher chances townies will pick one of them up to be elected.

And Syllo. I can also write 4 names and point fingers while conveniently claiming that I can change any name anytime I want because I haven't read the thread. If you're going to show up then do it right or don't bother.


I actually agree with this. At the moment I trust my judgement over everyone else's including syllo, as he's gone all conspiracy on us.


to confirm: you still think Syllo is town, right? Just crazy?
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 14:35 GMT
#3660
On November 26 2012 23:34 syllogism wrote:
I've very strong reasons for considering Prom mafia, so how about directing your damage that way. Also you are just plain wrong in saying that whether his role seems ridiculous or not is irrelevant, just like you were yesterday when you were telling everyone how wrong they were about sandroba.

If you are town, how about not arguing against me every single day


If you are town, how about not being a fucking idiot. You don't have strong reasons or you would make a case instead of having feelings.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 14:37 GMT
#3662
yeah, okay, I'm tired and being more of an asshole than I need to be. I'll leave this in the capable hands of literally everyone who isn't Syllo and I'll see ya'll in a few hours.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 14:42 GMT
#3669
go look at Syllo's filter he said d1 that people on a successful quest should not be considered confirmed town.
going to sleep for real now.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:10 GMT
#3803
I'm writing this post in the hour of deadtime, I'll post it as soon as the cycle begins.

I used my aforementioned ability on a player I have a town read on. I would like all roleblocks to be claimed before I announce who my target was so that the scum do not know who I used my ability on and are forced to claim their roleblocks in case someone else blocked them.
never mind, i was RB'd I also took 25 damage.

Toad, based on his voting and vanishing, is claiming scum. There should be no debate about what might happen when he flips town as there is no chance a town Toad would play like this. I imagine that after the redcheck on toad scum bussed the shit out of him knowing it was true. Now, since TC claims that hopeless and Acro are of different alignments I've gone back and forth; Acro has played the much townier game while Hope has played the much scummier one. My problem is that I would expect that result from Town Acro/scum Hope or from Scum Acro/Town Hope. Acro has hinted at a crazy connection theory about Toad's role. No matter what Toad ends up flipping I want to hear this theory as it should give some insight into how Acro is thinking.

Djo, I hope you get roleblocked by scum tonight. I also think you are playing in an unnecessarily crazy way. Make your cases, use your abilities and tone it down. I ask you not to lie about your role. You don't need to tell us about it either but don't fake claim.

Kita: ha! I figured out the games. Do you think this was a game mechanic which was always going to target your character or do you think that this character has targeted you two nights in a row?

VE: I hope you are here after deadline and can play the game like a real person. I really like reading your games usually and I was pretty pleased to see you hop into this one. I'm not as pleased anymore. Can you provide any form of anything for town? Reads/thoughts/actions/those pictures we were promised in LC

Syllo: you keep popping into the thread to say that you have really good reasons for thinking I'm scum, not commenting on anything else, contradicting yourself and vanishing. Stop doing that. I don't have the town cred to fight you but based on your suspicions I'll probably be flipped before you so you better have some damn good reasons for being an idiot or everyone will know that you are scum. I've been thinking about your claimed damage n1, everyone else will have to decide after I flip if mafia kp actually could get through my ability. I now think that you probably fake claimed the damage.

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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:18 GMT
#3808
On November 27 2012 09:13 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 09:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:09 phagga wrote:
oh, one last thing, clarity or dieno as party leader?

We can vote syllo if I'm not mistaken. Also, I took 75 damage (not self-inflicted)

Yeah, you're right. The Daypost specifies that we cannot take the last party leader with us, which was Oats.

I'm off to bed.


the day post specifies that we cannot vote the same guy in as leader two days in a row. Buddy can still come along for the ride.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:22 GMT
#3811
On November 27 2012 09:19 TheChronicler wrote:
Ok who gets the reward, party leader or the entire team. I thought it was the whole team?

If it's just party lead we select a party lead from the winning team and we should have 4/4 team that has already won us an event, right? It's just 1/2 of the previous team, and we can take people from the original team as well. How can we lose?


the party leader gets the reward (from what Syllo said). Do you think that taking Kier makes sense? We've, presumably, had bonuses every day because of Frog/Robo but would not have those in the end of time.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:23 GMT
#3813
oh, and ## Vote: Dieno
Gk, be a smart sheep.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:27 GMT
#3820
Hope: my role pm says that if someone targets the player whom I targeted that first player will be roleblocked. I'm not sure about 'everyone takes ten damage' I just asked and it does not block mafia kp.

GK, fair but why Syllo twice?
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:34 GMT
#3831
On November 27 2012 09:33 Keirathi wrote:
It doesn't really matter to me, either. But, since we can have a full team of people that are confirmed successful parties, I'll say that unless I get invited to parties, I am nothing more than a VT. I get 0 abilities to use without being included.


are your abilities worth your low modifier? Objectively and not "oh man look at this cool thing I can do"
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:40 GMT
#3835
On November 27 2012 09:37 Keirathi wrote:
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On November 27 2012 09:34 Promethelax wrote:
On November 27 2012 09:33 Keirathi wrote:
It doesn't really matter to me, either. But, since we can have a full team of people that are confirmed successful parties, I'll say that unless I get invited to parties, I am nothing more than a VT. I get 0 abilities to use without being included.


are your abilities worth your low modifier? Objectively and not "oh man look at this cool thing I can do"

Some are. If I was worried about the party selection, it would probably be best to leave me out of the party. But we have 5 people who have been in successful parties, including a party that I was in specifically. We could take the exact 4 people today as we had day 1, if we really wanted to. I don't see any reason to believe that that party wouldn't be successful today, when it was on day 1.

So, I don't see much reason not to include me.


My reason for not wanting to do that, silly though it seems, is never trust GreYMisT. I think he'd have some way to force us not to use the same party and keep winning with it every time. Because otherwise mafia has to kill party members and can't focus on good players who aren't in the party/claimed roles they want to eliminate/their SK read
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:44 GMT
#3841
Another reason I think Dieno makes more sense if there are rewards based on the player and not which quest they lead to victory he will get the masamune.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 00:46 GMT
#3844
GK, fair enough. I think it is time our viggies got aimed at scum instead of lurkers. We don't know we'll get a lynch we do know that Toad is scum.
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Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 01:15 GMT
#3892
On November 27 2012 10:12 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 10:10 Keirathi wrote:
On November 27 2012 10:06 Hapahauli wrote:
I would like to run for party leader

My party will be Dienosaur, Kei, and either Chronicler or Acro
If you for whatever reason do not feel safe with Chronicler/Acro, I can add Oatsmaster in that slot.

Why you can trust me
I think the parties I proposed above are as near confirmed town as we can get in this situation. Given this player pool, you can trust me. Why? Because if we failed the mission, I would be holding a neon-sign saying "LYNCH ME." This is suicidal for me to do as scum.

I see no reason to put 2 non successful party members in the party today (You, and Chronicler/Acro). And, you couldn't replace Acro/Chronicler with Oats. The only possible way you could replace them would be with syllo.


Oh I totes confused names for some reason. Yes Syllo instead of Chronicler/Acro.

Whaddya think? I'm in a position where I'm not under suspicion, and I (as hypothetical scum) would only have everything to lose by presenting myself like this.


you have nothing to lose at all. Note how Toad confirmed himself as scum and is still around.

NO ONE VOTE TOAD!
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Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 01:16 GMT
#3897
On November 27 2012 10:15 iamperfection wrote:
wait why cant he use oats


half of party is 1.5 rounds down to one
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Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 01:19 GMT
#3902
On November 27 2012 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 10:15 Promethelax wrote:
On November 27 2012 10:12 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 27 2012 10:10 Keirathi wrote:
On November 27 2012 10:06 Hapahauli wrote:
I would like to run for party leader

My party will be Dienosaur, Kei, and either Chronicler or Acro
If you for whatever reason do not feel safe with Chronicler/Acro, I can add Oatsmaster in that slot.

Why you can trust me
I think the parties I proposed above are as near confirmed town as we can get in this situation. Given this player pool, you can trust me. Why? Because if we failed the mission, I would be holding a neon-sign saying "LYNCH ME." This is suicidal for me to do as scum.

I see no reason to put 2 non successful party members in the party today (You, and Chronicler/Acro). And, you couldn't replace Acro/Chronicler with Oats. The only possible way you could replace them would be with syllo.


Oh I totes confused names for some reason. Yes Syllo instead of Chronicler/Acro.

Whaddya think? I'm in a position where I'm not under suspicion, and I (as hypothetical scum) would only have everything to lose by presenting myself like this.


you have nothing to lose at all. Note how Toad confirmed himself as scum and is still around.

NO ONE VOTE TOAD!


Sure I would. A team of Syllo, Dieno, Kei would be basically confirmed town. If we failed the mission with me as leader, I'd be immediately outing myself as scum.

I'm only doing this because I indeed have nothing to lose since I'm town.


buddy, being confirmed scum doesn't hurt you. look at Toad.
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