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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
October 31 2012 18:30 GMT
#181
I also want clarification from Djagu because if anything that's seems like a way worse way to enter the thread when compared to brood's joke vote on me.

Just realized I forgot the letter g in my last post...
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 31 2012 18:38 GMT
#182
'Kay, so how is my question to Chezinu unimportant? Looks to me like he wanted all of our blues to claim. Maybe its just me, having never played with Chezinu, but that was a pretty anti-town plan.

Now, I did comment on the BKE thing. On its own, its not particularly scummy. Particularly, though, the fact that he hasn't done any kind of early pressure vote in any of his last 7 town games is a bit weird. Still, even then I only think its minorly scummy and would never be enough to make me vote him.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 31 2012 18:51 GMT
#183
That isn't the only reason my vote is on BKE. Under the circumstances, his vote should not still be on crossfire. Very suspicious that he claims "oc I was joking" but leaves his vote where it is. Which choice (between leaving the vote or unvoting) would be "going back on your word" to BKE?
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
October 31 2012 19:09 GMT
#184
Xenon is not your color, for it has no color. You aren't not blue either Keirathi, thanks for claiming.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
October 31 2012 19:14 GMT
#185
Zachary, as you can see Keirathi is not blue. "...all of our blues to claim," he says. By stating this, he is claiming that he is not blue.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 31 2012 19:20 GMT
#186
On November 01 2012 03:38 Keirathi wrote:
'Kay, so how is my question to Chezinu unimportant? Looks to me like he wanted all of our blues to claim. Maybe its just me, having never played with Chezinu, but that was a pretty anti-town plan.

Now, I did comment on the BKE thing. On its own, its not particularly scummy. Particularly, though, the fact that he hasn't done any kind of early pressure vote in any of his last 7 town games is a bit weird. Still, even then I only think its minorly scummy and would never be enough to make me vote him.


Cay, I fucked up that little bit, you did slightly comment on BKE.
Deeply still, you didn't conclude anything with it, you just responded to Adam's meta argument, you didn't talk about the vote itself, you just reacted to Adam's comment.

Ehm, your question on Chezinu was "unimportant" in the sense that out of all the things you could be talking about you chose to ask the "unreadable guy" a question he most likely wouldn't respond. For it also seemed very safe to ask.
Granted it's not that your question was "scummy as fuck", it's the fact that you bothered asking that question and not do something else, like starting discussion, comment about other things people said.
Hhh to me it seemed "safe" of you, specially since you didn't follow up with anything else after asking that question.

I'll wait for other people's thought on this though; it's still too early in the day.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 31 2012 19:21 GMT
#187
"...all of our blues to claim" doesn't make me not blue. Because what did you expect me to say? "Certainly he wanted all of us blues to claim?" Don't be silly, I would never claim blue like that at this point in the game.

Either way, though, I am not blue
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 31 2012 19:24 GMT
#188
For what reason are we even discussing this mass blue claim idea? Get cool like me and ignore it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 31 2012 19:26 GMT
#189
On November 01 2012 03:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
That isn't the only reason my vote is on BKE. Under the circumstances, his vote should not still be on crossfire. Very suspicious that he claims "oc I was joking" but leaves his vote where it is. Which choice (between leaving the vote or unvoting) would be "going back on your word" to BKE?


Jolly, didn't notice that. Kay, that's just too clumsy to do if he's town.
Like, I just came from a game in OMGUS where a scum did exactly that (made a "joke" vote, spent like 10 posts explaining how that vote was a joke but never unvoted), so I can see something like that happening again. Ministry, however he still has time to explain himself; if he goes AFK and keeps his vote on Xfire it'd certainly be scummy as hell.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 31 2012 19:29 GMT
#190
Natalie it seems like we have more people failing the post restriction >_>

Oh, BH once you come back from your 1 hour detention, could you post your thoughts on Keirathi? Perhaps or you still think Adam is scum for that 1st post of his?

Query him you did but I don't really see why your vote is on him; I'll check it out again though
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 31 2012 19:39 GMT
#191
Romulus and Remus Blazinghand I don't really see how Adam saying he scratched some posts because of the restriction is scummy.
Surely you think his comments about BKE are scummy perhaps? Titanium I haven't seen you comment on those and you just seemed to forget Adam even existed, even though you still have your vote on him
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
October 31 2012 19:41 GMT
#192
"Unpredictable," they say I am. Very soon the melodies will end. Who can follow me but gonzaw and blazinghand?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 31 2012 19:44 GMT
#193
I've been back and posting. Gonzaw. Basically, Adam typically opens up with big paragraphs and direct Q/A (see any of his games for examples of this). However, in games like TL Mafia LI when he rolls scum, he also opens up with big pieces of analysis, and more importantly, he hides behind questioning other players. In NMM III, he jumps in (as a replacement, admittedly), with accusations and direct confrontation against SS.

Arkham City, although a bit on the old side, shows a classic "Adam as town opening post"

On February 06 2012 21:45 Adam4167 wrote:
All this setup piffle is useless and counterproductive. Both sides can post filler about the setup. Let power roles make their own judgement calls, let the night actions unfold as they do, and spend your time doing something that will actually lead to scum kills, like prodding people or reading filters. In the spirit of that:

Kurumi, you soft-defend Schworz twice in a single post, also indicate that vigi's should avoid him and the rest of your post is basic setup waffle. I don't remember you being this wishy-washy in TL50 either, with statements like 'I find it funny that...' and 'I just ponder', you sure come off that way now. What are you playing at?

Tobberoth, you say you're considering a vote on Kenpachi, yet you want to wait until 'discussion comes up later in the day'. This comes off as quite passive and almost like you're waiting for a bandwagon to pickup speed before you seal the deal. Why not just vote him now if you find him suspicious, as you claim, then move it later as more information presents itself?

Ico, policy lynches are retarded... just no.

Jaybrundage, I know you haven't even posted yet, but we've never been the same team. Don't see why this game would be any different. Have my vote!

##Vote: jaybrundage


This is a post where he lays down solid opinions, makes a case and a post, and although his vote on JB isn't great, he gets his stuff together. Even in our first game together, Student Mafia, he comes out strong, actively assessing players in the thread and laying down reads, not asking pointless questions. Here's his first posts from this game, as a contrast:
On October 31 2012 11:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Adam has typed out four posts now only to be beaten to posting them.
Beginning to go Bruce Banner on this posting restriction and its only 45 minutes in.

On October 31 2012 11:54 Adam4167 wrote:
Very astute Blazinghand, that you've managed to discern my alignment from a 2 line post.

What happened was I got sick of reforming my post and hit Control+A then delete.

Xena warrior princess is awesome.

You're Wrong.

Zero town cred do I care about, only killing scum.


He's operating under a posting restriction, sure, but look at what he's doing: he's stalling, deflecting, and asking questions rather than making statements and putting on pressure. After I call him out, he says this:

On October 31 2012 12:12 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 11:56 Blazinghand wrote:
and yet somehow this magical post you supposedly wrotr is still absent


For what it is worth, my post was an introduction post that outlined that since I am newly unemployed, I am online from 9am KST til 1am KST every night, and that my usual 'meta' of lurking will not be the case here.

Given that the time for introductory posts is over and you have the gist of what it entailed, lets move on to something actually productive.


I'd like to know why Broodking is making a pressure vote, yet following it up with 'oh its just a joke', completely invalidating any pressure that may have come with it.


This is not town Adam. Town Adam is fearless, open with his thoughts, and votes at the drop of a hat. In fact, here's town Adam's opinion of my play from our last game together, our first newbie game:

On December 05 2011 01:38 Adam4167 wrote:
///
My thoughts on Blazinghands aggression so far is that I feel he is trying to generate discussion. However, I question whether he is trying too hard to establish himself as a townie by his badgering. This, coupled with his apparent buddy-buddy relationship with Velinath has me keeping a close eye on both of them as I find it strange that they are apparently “BFF’s” after only 12 hours of play. So to directly answer your question, Tunkeg, I find his behaviour suspicious and erring on the side of Anti-town. 5 separate votes in 12 hours is akin to spam and is just leading the town around in circles, rather than focusing on any one target.

///

I feel that by flinging your vote in every direction, you have cheapened the weight of your vote when you eventually do decide to settle on a target. I also feel the need to point out again that you have had 5 separate votes in 12 hours, which is almost half of the players participating.

You’ve caught my attention Blazinghand, don’t slip =).


This is a response of a player who doesn't already know the alignment of the guy he's talkign with, a player who's trying to reason things out and learn. He wants to use my activity as a tool for himself (in this game I threw a vote on him very early with minimal evidence as well). He wants to figure out what I'm doing, who I am, and how to use me to find scum, if I'm not scum. He immediately channels his responses to the early aggression into useful channels.

He does none of that this game.

Adam is scum. Easy.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 31 2012 19:56 GMT
#194
Yo I guess you don't care about the posting restriction anymore BH? Well I might do that with my bigger posts, since they come off horrible when trying to fit my thoughts into the restriction; although it'd stiffle discussion a lot (for instance now I can't discuss with you anything and once you can post again the thread of the discussion will be lost basically).


Xena, you make some good points, although you seem to be ignoring his pressure of BKE; do you think him pressuring BKE looking at his past games and shit would be "a player who's trying to reason things out and learn" or not? Zoo, again because you haven't mentioned that.

Also, again I'd like your thoughts on Keirathi. Boldly I feel that he hasn't done much ever since I called him out, he just kept hung on the Chezinu issue yet again and posting minimally yet again
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 31 2012 20:20 GMT
#195
EBWOP:

Chicka-bow just in case I know Keirathi is in a 1 hour detention right now, I meant his posting before that.

I assume the "EBWOP" thing doesn't count towards the restriction, right? :/

Dandruff, well, this is getting boring now. Earpiece in my ear, and I'll be going to uni in 1 hour or so, and I'll be working on a project now so bon voyage. Foreplay, I'll check this thread every once and then until then anyways.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 31 2012 20:23 GMT
#196
BH I assume you can show yourself out till 5 44 TL time
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
October 31 2012 20:34 GMT
#197
Gonzaw, do you agree with blazing's analysis of adam's meta?
On November 01 2012 04:44 Blazinghand wrote:
I've been back and posting. Gonzaw. Basically, Adam typically opens up with big paragraphs and direct Q/A (see any of his games for examples of this). However, in games like TL Mafia LI when he rolls scum, he also opens up with big pieces of analysis, and more importantly, he hides behind questioning other players. In NMM III, he jumps in (as a replacement, admittedly), with accusations and direct confrontation against SS.

How is the italicized portion any different from the bold portion? Is not direct Q&A the same as questioning other players, and big paragraphs the same as big pieces of analysis. Judge for yourself and respond, please. Keeping this post in mind as well as his complete lack of trying to play the alphabet game, BH has now registered on my scumdar.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
October 31 2012 20:42 GMT
#198
Lame, BH, if you tried to play the alphabet game, I could have just gotten your response, but you have to be that dude who is too cool to play those dumb kiddy games. Maybe you can now see the importance of trying to post according to the game of the day.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 31 2012 20:44 GMT
#199
N/Looking at some of Adam's posts he quoted it seemed like there was a difference in play regarding Adam's first posts in games as town.
O/Macho, I didn't really pay attention to his "he posts big questions" argument, but rather that "Adam is fearless and forceful in his 1st posts" argument.
P/Ni, it didn't convince me that much because of that BKE issue I said before BH seemed to have ignored, but it's a little bit interesting if he is willing to expand on it.
Q/Oh, when I played with Adam I didn't really see him being such a "huge force" in town (I think I played with him as town..? I don't really remember, I did play with him as scum I think) so Adam not behemently trying to fuck scum is not really something that worries me.
R/Pibe, what kind of worries me is that he just got hung up with BKE as well (kind of how Kei is hung up with Chezinu right now); although he has time to contribute more though.

Shhh, it'd be nice if people didn't make instant consecutive posts when they ask someone else for a response >_>
(Ta-ta, although that's kind of what I did previously...ehmm...huh...so nevermind <_<)
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 31 2012 20:49 GMT
#200
Umm I can't fcking follow what gonzaw is doing. Why is that method of skirting the rules allowed? Vault this kid into detention please so that he's forced to stop dicking around and go the BH route, or play the game properly. Xtention of this would be to allow everyone (looking at you BH) to just throw in a random word that starts with the applicable letter.
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