EPTWhose Line Is It Anyway? Mafia! - Page 12
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BroodKingEXE
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Hopeless1der
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Enter the OMGUS into the equation and I'm pretty dead set on my vote. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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Mattchew
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Hopeless1der
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Chezinu
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Crossfire99
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On November 01 2012 08:00 Mementoss wrote: Haha, don't make me laugh, mementoss; I read your post and now I guess I need to explain it to you.-obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote: I agree I could have explained myself better; I got carried away in the beginning of this game and will try to do better going forward.I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous, Judging right here that even with all that crap I wrote which was confusing and weird, you think that is is more likely that I am town. Let me explain what "more likely" means. "More likely" means that given two options, one has a better chance of being true when compared to the other. Now you already stated that it is more likely that I am town, but now you need to say what the other option is, (the option that has a worse chance of being true).but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum. Oh, here you explain what that option with the worse chance of being true is; the option in which I am scum.Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far. Proved I just did why your vote doesn't line up with your thought. Questioning my alignment is good. Revealing that you think it is more probable that I am town than scum and then voting for me is bad reasoning for a vote.##Vote Crossfire So I hope I explained that well enough to your likening, mementoss. On November 01 2012 08:00 Mementoss wrote: Then when you go to defend yourself, you say you're voting me because you could see me doing what i did as scum but its not a strong read. Uh huh, yeah you kinda already said that and I kinda already said why it's crazy using your words of "more likely xfire posting as town." Voting for me while thinking I'm more likely town than scum is scummy.U BH, I said, I can see where your coming from how it seems townie, but I was ultimately voting him because I could also see where he could be doing it as scum - looking like contributing, - acknoledges moost of it was fluff when called out, -but why post fluff pirposely if you are town - as I said in my post, I need to re-read the thread and it isn't a strong scum read by any means - if your looking for people not reading the thread, look no further - -obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo | ||
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Hopeless1der
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Crossfire99
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Crossfire99
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On November 01 2012 12:11 Hopeless1der wrote: Lol, I'll take a timeout too I guess Don't take one. I'm the one that screwed up not you. | ||
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Adam4167
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Hopeless1der
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gonzaw
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On November 01 2012 06:55 Blazinghand wrote: gonzaw-- I'm willing to buy that you did in fact read my post, just not very carefully. I don't know how this seems to be dogmatically in favor of using the 1-hour wait method at all times or the rhyming method at all times. You should read my posts more clearly and think a bit harder about the game. Yeah, I guess it doesn't mean you'll dogmatically be in favour of using the 1-hour method at all times, I may have misunderstood that... ....so? I don't get the point here. It's not something important (at least not to me) and it's not something that I would even dwell on so I don't get how I should "think a bit harder about the game" about something mostly irrelevant that I just made a remark on. You are grasping at straws there BH Part of the reason I'm on your ass is that you're not playing like you normally do. This focus from you, and the lack of serious pressure on multiple targets, that's not like you. The gonzaw I know, when he plays town, has fullisades of questions for everyone. Why just this one Keirathi case? Where's your usual constant interrogation and probing of everyone in the town? I remember your posts as being kinda annoying and having formatting issues, and maybe being unfocused, but also being unrelenting in their pressure on multiple targets. What gives? First of all...no, that wasn't "part of the reason" you were on my ass and if it was you made a pretty poor job of pointing that out. Second of all...I don't know? I don't know what you seriously expect me to answer. I'm playing like I play, nothing more; I don't honestly see any difference like you are pointing out. I'm getting the feeling there's not much to go on about though, and I think I came into the game kind of late and could only post a few times with the people that were active (you and Xfire mostly) so that may be why you are "worried" about it. If you don't mind I'll just ignore this for now. If you have any specific stuff about me that worries you point it out so I can clear any misunderstandings. Anyways BH, I don't really get why you somehow got all pissy about me for some irrelevant reason, and after I call you out...you somehow backtrack on it and completely change the reason why you are suspicious of me? Not only that but the tone of your post is just....like apologetic...? I don't really know the word, but you are asking me why I'm "not playing like town" in your mind? You very well know that if I was scum I can answer anything you want me to answer and "satisfy" that question of yours. It doesn't really feel consistent with your "aggressive macho guy" persona you put when you FoS people or when you even FoSed me before. This inconsistency is weird.....but meh. You seem genuinely interested when you post and I don't think you'd explain yourself so much as scum, which makes me doubt you being scum at the moment. You could still be scum but I can't see it much at the moment. Again, about your Adam case it seems interesting but unless you expand on it I can't see it. It's interesting because yeah, Adam hasn't done much at the moment other than pressure BKE and that seems suspicious, but he's not "100% confirmed scum" because of that flimsy meta argument you made. Maybe you get it better since you played with him in those games but I don't see it. On November 01 2012 08:33 Adam4167 wrote: Well this got interesting. Blazinghand, you are cherry picking my game history to support your meta case. X marks the spot. You ignore more recent games such as Aperture Mafia and wiggles mini mafia II - where I did not launch into cases with my first post - both of which I was town. You're taking a year old game, my FIRST game, and a post that I later admit to being drunk when writing and use that as evidence for aggression which you believe is lacking in this game. Zebras. I handled you more carefully this game because I've seen your horrendous tunnel-vision in TL51 - something that was a large distraction to town. ...however Adam, that doesn't excuse you to just post to "defend" yourself and not contribute much more. I believe more than 1 hour has passed so you can now post in here, but you haven't. You also fail to comment on the BKE issue which you participated before, yet somehow you can only find time to "defend" yourself from BH's accusations. Why not do more? Saying "there are other games where I was town and haven't done much" doesn't mean you are justified in not doing much this game. On November 01 2012 07:04 Keirathi wrote: Too many posts not following alphabet guidelines, so I'm not sure what letter we're on. But BH: why so willing to comment on basically everything else except gonzaws points about me? Hmm.... Don't really know what to think of this (Keirathi basically wants people to check him out?). Keirathi why do you want BH to comment on the stuff I said about you? You are playing differently that in previous games I've played with you, and you still don't seem to contribute anything of your own other than slightly "pressure" some people (Chezinu and BH now apparently). If you are town you would really need to step up your game, because it's making me hard to think of you as a townie that cares about this game right now. That comment of yours seems weird for a scum to make....but damn I've seen scum post weird comments before (even in our last game) so I don't really want to take it into account, at least if you don't contribute or do something other than appear you are active by posting every once and then. In Aperture Mafia 2 you were like confirmed town in my mind in very very little time by the way you posted, and in Can't Believe I remember you being part of discussions and stuff early on (even if you were "fluffy" or wishy-washy at times which made me FoS you initially...but you became pretty "obvious" town in D2 and D3). I don't see you doing either here, you are not even close to making me consider you town which is what makes me worried as well. There are some other players I'd like more stuff on. Like S&B, Mementos or that Django guy (or even Chezinu). Hey S&B, do you plan on doing something? I see you talk about BKE and posting stuff like "I'm very wary of people fucking up on purpose! *wink* *wink* " but there's not much substance in there. Please don't turn up like in Aperture Mafia 2 :/ (i.e useless all game) ..or worse...scum About BKE,....well at least he changed his "joke" vote and voted someone else with some reasoning, although it seems like an OMGUS. I'm not too sure, he seems too "aggressive" to be scum in my mind, specially with that "joke" vote of his initially. Meh I'll look at him tomorrow. Also yeah fuck this restriction, at least for this post. | ||
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Adam4167
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Over some filters, I have looked. Person of interest to me right now is Mementoss, whom I believe to be scum. Quite simply, his meek tone and unwillingness to step on toes makes him likely to flip red. Really bad vote on Crossfire, even admits himself that he can see Crossfires actions from a townie perspective as well as a scum one. Sitting back, pointing the finger at someone who has posted 6 lines (djagulingu) and calling him 'weird' and also saying his actions are not indicative of his alignment, yet Mementoss thought they were worth mentioning anyway. To use someones pre-game posts to build a case against them is garbage. U lean scummy on me Mementoss, yet you find BH's case on me to be unsatisfactory - please build a case that better illustrates why you find me scummy. ##Vote: Mementoss | ||
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Mattchew
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Adam4167
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On November 01 2012 12:26 gonzaw wrote: ...however Adam, that doesn't excuse you to just post to "defend" yourself and not contribute much more. I believe more than 1 hour has passed so you can now post in here, but you haven't. You also fail to comment on the BKE issue which you participated before, yet somehow you can only find time to "defend" yourself from BH's accusations. Why not do more? Saying "there are other games where I was town and haven't done much" doesn't mean you are justified in not doing much this game. Very early did I make that meta argument on BKE, mainly to get discussion rolling, I do not consider him scum at this point. When I post in the thread, I post with a reason, not for the sake of posting, my posts may take longer and be less frequent as a result - I was not excusing myself from participating in this game with my counter to BH's case. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 31 2012 23:13 Mementoss wrote: Nooooo chezinu ninjad me good thing I checked, I cant do the alphabet very well I have to say it completely out all the time lol. Oh, I agree with that fact that purposely fucking up is scummy because it gives you a free pass not to post, however, BKE seemed to be not understanding the rules at first, and the second time the posts were 3 min apart so its possible for ninja post. Poop, just to clarify this doesn't excuse his ridiuclous joke vote/call out on a "scum slip", it seemed like a desperate attempt to put fault on someone, but he fucked up with the rules. Qonsequently BKE, so far is the only player that stands out to me as somewhat scummy. Reading chezinus last post, I still don't agree with the mass claim idea. Sit will still end up with everyone claiming audience memebers. Tangerine, chezinu, why do you feeld it was nessecary to give the player list :S ? On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote: Going to gym, fuck the rules. Only got 5 minutes but would like to comment on a few things. The above is your case against Adam right? I don't consider it the strongest case, as you above seem pretty confident in it, but the fact that he hasn't been back to contribute is pretty un easing. leaning scummy on him right now. I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous, but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum. ATM I would be happy to vote either Xfire or BKE, (which I stated earlier why I thought his fake joke stuff seemed scummy, while his purposely?? getting restrictions wasn't liekly scummy), could go for Adam too, but I would rather wait for him to come into the thread again before doing that. Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far. ##Vote Crossfire Xtremely weird change of opinion, there. You go from saying its scummy to blatantly not follow the alphabet rules, to doing it yourself without any indication why you suddenly don't care anymore. Zero sense does that make. | ||
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BroodKingEXE
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strongandbig
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Hmmmmm, it's getting later in the day. It seems like there's some cases to consider. Just, I'm still looking at BKE, and I don't like what I see. Kay? Like his whole filter is mostly taken up with talking about how much he hates people who vote in the thread and not in the voting thread. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I see this as a lot of smokescreen - it's just way too unimportant to be taking up the large percentage of his filter that it is. Next there's his early-game jump-on vote on Crossfire. On the one hand, we have the meta analysis that Adam did, indicating that this is different from how he's entered games as a townie in the past - this only goes so far, but it is a point worth keeping in mind. Plus, he kept the vote on Crossfire for quite some time, all the while talking about how important votes in the voting thread are and how they should match up with stances in the main thread - this is the important part of his advice about "not going back on your word" - this seems inconsistent to me, and one thing I've learned in Mafia is that when players ascribe a lot of importance to some piece of advice on how to play the game but then don't follow that advice themselves, it indicates that advice exists to cover up for lack of contribution in other areas. Question: what contribution has he made other than that stuff about votes and such? Really, nothing except his little "case" on hopeless1der. Sure, hopeless hasn't been a paragon of town-leading shining knighthood, but he's definitely been more involved in the thread than BKE. True, hopeless's original reasoning for voting BKE wasn't great, but he follows up on it in a way that BKE didn't do with his vote on crossfire. Ultimately, I feel the need to do the following: ##vote: BroodKingEXE | ||
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