EPTFuba, Thrawn, Risk, Me, Acro, DP and you
All of the players in this game who are not Draz himself and Kush have voted him.
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Fuba, Thrawn, Risk, Me, Acro, DP and you All of the players in this game who are not Draz himself and Kush have voted him. | ||
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On November 09 2012 05:00 Acrofales wrote: I played suboptimally. Sue me. Also, have you even looked at my filter? Do you really think you could find a crumb in there? Assuming I wasn't making it blatantly obvious I was crumbing, at least? It isn't that I doubt that you are town, I just want to be clear about all of the information we have and a BCc would be extra information. I've read your filter a couple of times. Yes. Could I have found one, probably not I'm notorious with myself for how bad I am at finding crumbs. I would never, as a blue role, leave the target of my action uncrumbed though (I think, though I have never rolled blue). | ||
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On November 09 2012 05:21 Release wrote: Well, i have a feeling that this is the post that got me RBed. out of time. So why did you bc vigi? Was it a lie? If so why? | ||
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I want release to give his reasons for that BC and it irks me to no end that he shows it and leaves. I guess he could be a VT trying to suck a scum shot but with claimed blues who can still act (Acro) and much townier looking players I don't see why he thinks that he would even be able to take that. | ||
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On November 09 2012 08:16 DarthPunk wrote: FU all. Seriously. I fucking knew it. lol I didn't argue cuz. We da mans. On November 09 2012 08:16 Acrofales wrote: BOOM. Also, Kush is not scum. I'm assuming that you'll follow this up as I go, if not we'll talk about it. On November 09 2012 08:17 thrawn2112 wrote: either there are 2 godfathers (i find that least likely) and kush can be scum or kush might be sk if he was framed and chose investigation reversal neither of those I find too likely. the most of those is that he's sk but if that's true I don't want to lynch him for awhile I know you aren't retarded and that is what worries me most about this post. There is a RB which is unaccounted for and either came from DP or scum (or those are one in the same). Therefore there is no framer. I'm assuming you meant something else by the bolded? On November 09 2012 08:18 Acrofales wrote: Everybody except thrawn and kush knew it. Now we have another full filter of associations to puzzle over. Yummy  Kush not-scum, so give me your SK theories or consider him town. DP pro-busser or not-scum. Everybody else null. By this I assume you mean that everbody is null from this lynch or do you mean null over all? Please clarify. In addition I would like you to restate the reason that Release is not scum. On November 09 2012 08:30 Acrofales wrote: Fairly certain Release isn't scum. There was something wrong with him being scum that I forgot but is in my filter. Release SK is still incredibly likely, though. Risk.nuke final scum. With DarthPunk and Kush cleared from the scumlist, risk is the only one left. Minor outside chance of thrawn. When Release and DarthPunk claim we can see if the blue roles work out to anything believable. Oh I see you later had a RB theory of it. So last scum is not in the me/kush/release crowd. On November 09 2012 08:40 mkfuba07 wrote: Guys, who roleblocked kush? Scum or DP. On November 09 2012 08:54 Acrofales wrote: You people all fail miserably at logic. Or there are 4 scum. That seems way outside the realm of C9++ games, though. While the four scum thing seems really unlikely we do have about a million blues so maybe possible? | ||
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On November 09 2012 08:55 Release wrote: I claimed VT. I'll claim VT again. The purpose of the breadcrumb was to see whether i would be role blocked for wanting to vig kush. A side effect is that it drew RB away from other town (i was assuming that if i were RBed, it would be a mafia RB). If you are town and that was your strat you suck. To make sure you got roleblocked you'd have to play totally differently all game long. Note how I played to look blue versus your 'scum trap' in fact claiming porky pig would have done more for this claim than your trap. I just don't see a town motivation for this play. SK though. (okay wild theorizing: he is actually Porky think of what Porky says "thats all folks" sounds like an SK to me, okay I'm done now). On November 09 2012 09:46 DarthPunk wrote: I urge you all to shut up. Nothing we discuss now can't be discussed later when it won't give scum additional info on which to perfect their kills. so yeah. see ya all later. I urge you to participate in the night time we have a number of obvious and strong town players/roles and one of them will be killed tonight so we may as well have the most put into the thread before we go. Good job guys. I'm liking all this though I don't like Risk as much as I was liking him. He likes to have input on things and he hasn't done anything this game. Kush, Release, Thrawn and Risk are the only ones not looking like good townies now. I'm out for a while. Back later tonight. | ||
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If Acro is not scum I would look at Risk. His play has been less and less matching with his town meta as we go. Thrawn is also very worrying, he picked up on my pressure for Acro's breadcrumb but ignored the exact same post where I asked for his, Acro at least answered while Thrawn ignored me on purpose. I'm pretty sure that DP is not scum. His claim and his play work well together, they make sense from a townie stance and I have been thinking about what he said about defending me early on, he wouldn't have done that as scum because he has seen me turn on people defending me, I don't trust 'em. Kush and Release: one of these is probably SK but I'm having trouble reading either of them. As Acro said either Crazy town or Crazy not town. I would guess that if Kush was SK he would take investigation immune suspecting that someone would check him. Think about it. Just as I'm sure that a SK Acro would take bullet proof Kush would have to take Check Immune. Nothing else makes sense for the players. I doubt there is another unclaimed RBer. If scum have an RB he has already claimed his power. Look at Acro or DP because it has to be re-usable. I think scum need an RB thoguh with these power roles... Those are my thoughts for the moment. I'll be heading to work soon so I'll see you all after the night post. Peace! | ||
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I wish I could stay for the night post but I can't. This is it for me tonight back in ~11 hours. Good luck. | ||
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GG Acro, it has been a pleasure playing with you. I'm glad to have my sneaking suspicions finally removed so I can trust all the things that you said. If anyone else was roleblocked I want to hear about it. My mind is all wonked out trying to work out the balance to this game 3/4of flipped townies are blue. There is an SK. There are three more claimed blues. We flipped a GF and a goon. Useless against a slew of Roleblockers. DP: why were you so pissed about the massclaim? Weren't you going to claim today/last night during acction freeze time? As far as I can tell lynching scum = lynching sk for us right now. Both have one kp and no connections with anyone else in the game. Unless four man scum team which is pants-on-head. Risk: your head is certainly on the chopping block today. Who do you think should be under the axe instead of you and why? Release: the hell are you doing? we're thirty seconds into the day and you have voted three times. Please build a case on Risk. A case. Not a statement. | ||
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Thrawn: Matt was a one-shot RB, Zealos was a full jailer. He probably had a town read on Acro and saved him. My worry with Risk: he hasn't been playing, he had no idea that DP was the roleblocker who claimed to have blocked me N1 and N3 and Kush N2. Risk has not been reading the thread, he has been flying under the radar and now, when an endgame looks possible he comes back. Also: his balance theory is that I should be scum; Risk thinks that in a game with Acro, Matt, Zealos and Risk I would be counted as a vet. I have played five mafia games. Three of them were newbies and one of them I replaced into the fifth was my first and heavily themed. How in the hell am I a vet? Risk came into today guns blazing, he threw suspicion on everyone until he figured out something that would stick (DP's RB claim) and he kept pushing the idea that killing him would put us in an unwinnable position. He also failed to read the thread when Fuba and I discussed mafia KP, I had missed the total in the OP and Fuba told me it was there. I went back and read it and found it. Risk is an in your face player who plays his own way and doesn't give a shit. This crap is not his town play. Risk is either SK or Scum and each has one KP. I'm more sure of him than I am of anyone else right now and taking out a KP which has to be anti town (there is only one scum left so SK has to hit town and the scum always shoots against town). As such ##Vote: Risk | ||
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On November 12 2012 01:01 risk.nuke wrote: Thank you everyone for being absent. I hold you all in the highest contempt. Before you were going to be lynched you had the shortest filter in the game. If you are town you have played one of the worst town games I have ever seen from a TL vet whom I have respect for. In LC you played well if somewhat absently and here you haven't even done that. I hold you in the highest contempt if you are town this game. You have no room to call others bad when you have played the worst game of anyone left alive. This seems like another scummy appeal to emotion and my vote stays right where it is. I know I made a case on Fuba earlier in the game but his play has been more townie than Risk's by far. I am more confidant of a Risk lynch than any other. We don't have the room to play around and thrawn...I don't see why you don't like Risk as an option. I wish I had more time to stick around and make sure that the lynch stays where it is but I don't so I urge all of you in my stead to vote Risk and make sure he swings tonight. Risk hasn't been playing this game until there was a chance he would hang and he is not a player to sit idly back and let others do his dirty work for him. Vote Risk: he is the scummiest player left in the game and he hasn't put any effort into it until he was on the chopping block. I'm way more confidant of this lynch than I ever was of Hopeless. Now everyone: Vote Risk.Nuke 2012. Yes we can. | ||
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I think it is safe to treat Risk's cases like we would a flipped townie. We know his best bet for survival was to convince us that someone else was scummier than he was. I'm pretty tired so I'm going to have to keep thinking on this but I think we can use the no KP night to prove who the last scum is/isn't. Any ways I'm done work for the weekend so I'm back in the game 100%. Before the night kill comes through you'll have my full thoughts. I think I'm a more likely night kill than DP is tonight but we'll see. DP use the roleblock half tonight. Not the medic. I think you share my views on this but you should know whats up. Also: why did you JK me n1? I know you had a big ole town read on me but why did you expect to prevent a kp by jk'ing me? | ||
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I'm pretty discontent with the activity level in this game. I was asleep for ~8 hours and only one guy posted. Come on, there are a bunch of you who are town left. Don't become complacent just because we have had three good lynches in a row. Don't throw away this game. On that note I'm done work for the week and will be jumping back into this game full steam ahead. My goal is the fabled 20 page filter and I think I'll manage it. I'm going to read some thread now and hopefully get my thoughts together before the Action Deadline. They will be in the thread before the NK though, no question. Town: pick it up. I'm disappointed in the rest of you. Post game I'll be yelling at most of you; just so you know. | ||
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I don't think that there are four mafia in this set up 8-4-1 seems crazy imba. We're at 5-1 now and probably 4-1 after deadline. We have two lynches total in which to get the last mafia. As such I want everyone to work to find a top two mafia list; not just who they think is mafia right now. If we make it to 2-1 the two townies left need all the input they can get to lynch the scum so get your thoughts into the thread! Kush is not as townie as we have all been thinking. No matter what roles are left in the game this is a wonky set-up so assuming that two god fathers makes no sense is baseless. Kush and Draz did exactly the same scummy thing on the Hopeless wagon and we lynched Draz for it. Don't forget the possibility of a scum Kush, nothing in his play has suggested town so don't discount his flip. Can a framer frame himself and can a Jailer jail himself? Look at the answers to these questions to figure out what might be going on. I think Risk is right, there are too many blues for this to make sense (unless there are two scum left, possible but unlikely) make sure to look twice at all the claims. Fuba and Thrawn in particular though for the easy claimibility of one-shot powers. For a while I was very unsure of DP because mafia RB would want a power he could use every night but I do think he would have claimed RB and not JK in that situation. Release and Kush have been flying under the radar a little too much. I don't trust those two when they are both sir-post-a-lots generally. In most games I play/obs with Kush I have to ignore everything he writes or get bogged down in the spam. The fact that he has avoided doing that here is very worrying to me. Remember Acro's thing about Release being Porky Pig and not fighting with Kush on the VT name theory. Really look into this one! Fuba has played a pretty decent pro-town game with and since his claim. My worry is that he did nothing prior to that and scum might be worried about their chances at that point in the game and go for the gambit. Similarly to DP and Thrawn. Do not trust the claimants for their claims! Look at their play instead. I am leaning most town on DP and Fuba and least on Thrawn/Rlease with Kush not far behind. I really don't like Thrawn's paly this game because I expect better from him. Release and Kush are these kind of players but Thrawn is a champ usually and here he hasn't eve read the thread. Check out everyone's filter and get down and dirty now. There aren't many players left in the game and the townies left after the NK had better step it up. Best of luck guys, I doubt I'll be with you come the day post Marvin Acme signing out | ||
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I am ashamed of the town players who are not posting and playing their best in this game and I hope you all know it. If you somehow manage to lose after Acro, and to some small extent I, put you in this situation I will hate you forever. | ||
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On November 13 2012 08:00 Release wrote: I didn't have anything important to say before the deadline but i must put one thing straight: I am not porky pig. I did hate the flavor theory from the very start but i thought that as a town, we could ignore it. For the most part, we did manage to avoid flavor theory although the two N1 kills were probably helped by the few claims of VT in day1. I claimed to be porky pig in an attempt to silence the flavor theory once and for all so that we could focus on actually getting things done and forcing Kush to make actual reads instead of facetious fathoms about roles and names. I had kept silent until the moment of my claim because i had still believed that Kush had been blue-hunting but that moment felt like the optimal moment to claim as porky pig. I hope that you can all see that despite all of my bad play at mafia, this has been my contribution. I am painted tunnel btw. I did not breadcrumb earlier in the game because i never actually thought flavor theory would escalate in the way that it did. MY only (shitty bc) was "i smell with my little nose a freshly painted tunnel" you posted that bc recently. Your play is awful. Your lies are dumb. Go scum hunt. Don't hope that others will exonerate you play the game. | ||
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