TL Mafia LVIII

On December 25 2012 08:55 marvellosity wrote:
this is getting interesting.

On December 30 2012 17:25 iamperfection wrote:
Victory

On January 03 2013 07:44 Palmar wrote:


Nah, I read my role pm, it'll be too hard to fake that I'm town on camera.

On January 03 2013 11:39 marvellosity wrote:
indeed Cheesecake. Although actually the most interesting thing about it is that Clarity thought it was interesting.

On January 03 2013 16:40 Adam4167 wrote:


Who do you want to lynch today clarity?

So far, you've told us who you don't want to lynch (palmar and tunkeg), but I want to know who strikes you as interesting.

On January 03 2013 21:05 supersoft wrote:


why are these timestamps important? you want to look professional?
the first posts were just some posts to get this game going and to start a discussion.
there is not really deeper meaning. actually the one with wbg also had. i am not lynching wbg d1.
even if hes not here what i think is strange lol.
and wtf? randomly? marv asked me if i wanted to kill palmar. i replyed no, i prefer mz!?
LOL! do you even read the thread? GG scum. what a typical scumpost that is.
asking stupid questions, with unnecessary timestamps. not even quoting me!
Do you really think you can get away with that stuff???

Another questionable fellow is that guy here:


wtf confirmed townies? is he really that (im am polite now) "uninformed"?
LOL


and yeah ofc MZ, as scum you'd tell your scumteam that palmar looks town like town and not us.
pfffff

can we lynch that timestampguy btw? he's terrible. is he always terrible? reading former games on my phone kinda sucks.
LOL! just rereading his post: wtf motivations?
that post screams scum to me

On January 03 2013 21:12 supersoft wrote:
Mason (Let's one of members communicate with someone for 48 hours. Can be used during the day.)

On January 03 2013 22:38 Adam4167 wrote:


Interesting choice for someone who didn't want to lynch a vet.


Why did you pick him specifically?

On January 03 2013 22:54 supersoft wrote:
yes, because i read the setup.

On January 03 2013 23:07 yamato77 wrote:
Chezinu who should we lynch?

Right now I think it's you because I haven't seen a lot of substance in what you've said so far.

On January 03 2013 23:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
clarity u no post to voting thread?

On January 03 2013 23:40 marvellosity wrote:
ok. i'll leave you and palmar to ask for stupid notes that were clearly actually written by the guy you're asking, because that's so much more productive. thx for enlightenment supersoft.

hey Clarity, got anyone you dislike other than lurkers right now?

On January 03 2013 23:50 marvellosity wrote:


who do you dislike and why isn't that dislike scummy, dear?

On January 04 2013 00:38 marvellosity wrote:


Tunkeg wasn't shitting up the thread, he was asking a legitimate question.

And what iamp posted wasn't really clever or anything, it was a statement of the obvious. This whole page is silly.

On January 04 2013 04:35 supersoft wrote:
Where is MZ?
Where is Foolishness?
Where is wherebugsgo???

how much time is left?
2 hours...?

A Palmarlynch is not going to happen. wtf.
Don't listen to paranoiatoad!

On January 04 2013 01:10 Jackal58 wrote:

Town Palmar and scum Palmar can both be dicks. Don't even try to use that as a read. Lynching Palmar on day one is usually a bad idea. Blowing him up on the other hand is hilarious.
Don't worry Palmar. Kurumi did not give me a bim.

On January 04 2013 01:18 Jackal58 wrote:
Saw that BC
Almost like a PSA from the scum team.

On January 04 2013 15:00 yamato77 wrote:
Debears you've improved your fake scumhunt techniques but you're still not convincing.

On January 04 2013 18:31 Palmar wrote:


Clarity, where is the analytical case-building guy I knew and loved from Hero, you know, the guy who was the towniest towny in town. Now you're just a useless stack of questions this game.

On January 04 2013 18:42 yamato77 wrote:
Nah I tunnel deebs all day.

Clarity do I look scummy to you? It's okay, you can say the 's' word. I give you permission.

On January 04 2013 20:54 marvellosity wrote:


Because you've seen me play often enough and I don't understand what you even want me to answer from that case. What the fuck are you asking me, clarity?

On January 04 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote:


I just unvoted him.

Srsly dear -.-

On January 04 2013 21:18 Palmar wrote:


No idea. But I think it's pretty telling that he's been so concerned with basically what constitutes as trolling from me that it has taken up his entire attention of the game it seems.

I don't know, kinda would expect strong town players to find motivation to just look elsewhere when some random dude is trolling. I could just vote for BC but because I'm actually town I actually spent time looking at everyone in the game, not just some random dude who kinda looks useless and nothing else.

On January 05 2013 03:49 iamperfection wrote:

These thoughts mirror my own.

On January 05 2013 04:50 Promethelax wrote:
## vote clarity

See his post above mine looking for information from the lynch and saying we'll gain nothing from palmar pushing a townie when clarity just came out of hero where palmar said to lynch him if he lynched a townie.

On January 05 2013 05:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
EBWOP: And if(I'm taking WBGs word on this) he really is known for his scum play, I don't see how he would get in such a bad position just in D1.

On January 05 2013 05:34 Palmar wrote:


Who cares, no one with half a brain thinks I'm scum anyway.

On January 05 2013 06:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Palmar
Meakpak
Foolishness
Thrawn
Djodref
sentinal

2-4 are red.

You can thank me later you retarded morons. Also, have fun killing players who were more useful than the ones you were listening to. Palmar is 100% red, as is Meapak. Enjoy faggots.

Also I am a blue role, enjoy offing that too, however I am in your favour for letting me out of this mess. I was expecting a high end game to play not a bunch of trolls throwing feces.

On January 05 2013 07:02 marvellosity wrote:


i do all the time, but only my own kind ;p

On January 04 2013 12:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Good. Nobody has missed me. I wish I was a scum, I could lurk all the way to morning or even the deadline.



And have you been better? What have you done? Enlighten me.

I am not posting anything of great mass or importance. This is more obligatory than anything now that I think of it.

It is currently 22:06 where I am. I am going to sleep and will wake up at 04:00 the next morning. I will then read the filters of several players and will not stop until I have substantial evidences to point two of my fingers, but perfereably more, at people who I am suspicious of. It'll be like the metal horns but with more killing. Basically I'm not lurking anymore.

I have these people in my head already and in exactly eight hours or less I will report my findings. I wish you all a pleasant night and to keep the vitriol to acceptable levels.

Good. Nobody has missed me. I wish I was a scum, I could lurk all the way to morning or even the deadline.

On January 04 2013 20:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I really don't like Clarity's filter. He does exactly two (2) things in it - he repeatedly insists Tunkeg is town while simultaneously talking about how bad he is. Something I would agree with by itself.

The other thing is tunnel Jackal. I don't know where you're going with this but it's not working. It's working less than the immigrant worker I hired to fix my deck. Jackal was lurking and given the suspicion... proceeded to lurk! Very effective tunneling.


That is point two. Now here is the reason I don't like his filter at all - is because he doesn't back things up at all. I see no concrete reads, or concrete anything other than these two cases. No lengthy discussions. Ima go back to Hero Mini and see how Clarity did over there for more information.

Until then I will give you the benefit of the doubt since being sick sucks.


Granted this made me laugh. Next victim.



I could honestly go for this if he doesn't produce the logs out of his ass before the night. I think the risk of scum knowing Palmar's thoughts is justified compared to being viewed as town in our eyes. It would do much more than simply asking him to be town as yamato suggested.

I'm voting for Palmar until he brings out those logs.

I'm voting for Palmar until he brings out those logs.

On January 05 2013 00:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.

Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period

On January 05 2013 05:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I am going to spare marv for the night because I feel that town marv is plausible. Just a little bit. A little bit plausible. We'll see.

BC on the other hand I have a very hard time imagining him to be town. He's had a conversation about Chez with yamato, and made one post about how despite getting his shit together, Palmar is apparently irredeemable. Then some whining à la Tunkeg. Except Tunkeg is just the embodiment of frustration.

Convince me marv is mafia, or at least summarize for me pretty please. I've been spaced the whole day and might have missed a lot in the thread since my clarity/Palmar post.

I've been spaced the whole day and might have missed a lot in the thread since my clarity/Palmar post.

On January 04 2013 20:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I am going to read all this when I get back.

For now, unvoting.

On January 05 2013 00:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.

Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period

On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
They can. But I don't find it very likely.

On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.

On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.

On January 05 2013 22:27 marvellosity wrote:


eh, the real question is, why don't you think MZ will be lynched today? I find it highly likely.

On January 05 2013 22:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing?

On January 05 2013 22:34 Lazermonkey wrote:
In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum.

On January 05 2013 22:06 Lazermonkey wrote:
I don't see how its strange.


My thought process
1.) I think your are quite suspicious
2.) I think you have some good points about MZ, making me somewhat suspicious of him as well.
3.) You both are probebly both not scum
4.) I find you more suspicous than MZ
5.) Thus I don't think it's very likely that MZ is scum
6.) If you actually are town, then I'm truly suspicous of MZ once again.

On January 05 2013 22:40 supersoft wrote:


wait what? Modconfirmed townie?

On January 05 2013 22:45 Djodref wrote:


Ok, I get you now. I don't think the host is going to allow anything then, you can rest at peace.

On January 05 2013 23:43 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hmmm, I think you are grasping at straws a bit. Attacking the ways he is expressing himself and what not. alot of it comes down to WIFOM. Like your using this as a argument for him being scum:Though I think that its entirely possible that he is just a lazy townie and what not. His play isn't really pro-town but he is not playing a very good scum game either. I'm not keen on lynching him tomrrow really. He is null for me.

On January 06 2013 00:10 yamato77 wrote:

Bugs and VE.

On January 06 2013 00:54 supersoft wrote:
bug, marv and you... how is that OP against Palmar, Foolish, BC and me?
get ready to get crushed.

On January 06 2013 01:10 supersoft wrote:
marv didnt quit. he pulls out the trick i wanted to use in case i roll scum:
you get accused and almost lynched do that: spam the thread, pretend youre not playing anymore, dont vote, everyone thinks you get modkilled and boom you get right back in before the lynch vote and live another day
yeah in germany we call that "unsportlich" it roughly means unfair, but it's really only abusing the rules.
only scum does that.

On January 06 2013 01:20 supersoft wrote:


"whatsup" did you read everything or only d1
this game is d1 and i was sick when day1 ended. i think i already said that.
your shit offends me.

what's interesting though, is that MZ is playing extremely poor this game, too.
and he wasnt scum back then :-[ but he found a way to confirm himself as far as i remember.

I am just asking if you feel you're playing as well as you were in that game, because I do not.

On January 06 2013 01:32 Toadesstern wrote:
God screw this. I'm not going to read all this bullshit, but someone said Palmar claimed Jeadong?

That's some interesting information. That's kind of a weird name, isn't it?

On January 06 2013 01:47 supersoft wrote:
lol. I knew you were lying. Man i am such a scumradar. However you're not necessarily scum now.
But I am asking myself, why should someone claim that i play differently and in fact he himself didnt read correctly.
That's not exactly scumhunting... it's more like pretending to scumhunt... OH WAIT

On January 06 2013 01:52 supersoft wrote:
it's not personal. I just want to know if you're scum.

On January 06 2013 02:48 Keirathi wrote:

Okay, I just want to comment on this while I'm catching up with what I missed overnight.

There is a very important difference between marv bussing Adam, and scum marv potentially bussing scum MZ. You see, in Hero, Palmar was pushing Adam and he was right. A town Palmar who is correct gets his way, so Marv sheeped onto the case.

Don't get me wrong, people had talked about MZ a bit before Marv's case. But he wasn't getting any traction. Scum marv will bus when he has to, generally not before. Especially if the player is someone who isn't a total liability.

On January 06 2013 03:20 froggynoddy wrote:
pffff, great.

If people are gonna start accusing Palmar please do so on the merits of his case (which a lot of you followed) and not 'because he was wrong about Marv.

On January 06 2013 04:07 debears wrote:


Ah good call. It appears one normally posts around that time. The other had not posted within 5 hours, but it would be a reasonable time to post based on location.

However, I do see activity differences from both of these people in their town metas. Voting analysis will commence

On January 06 2013 04:12 Chezinu wrote:

I think someone deserves a promotion in the Brown Brotherhood. Well, played. Well played, indeed.

On January 06 2013 04:16 iamperfection wrote:

he was the self voter right? He could be another possibility. The self vote would put the spotlight on him for a bit normally but he didnt really do much besides that. Would like more info from him really.

On January 06 2013 04:43 Keirathi wrote:

I have definitely read your filter.

So let me ask you a question. With BC and marv both being town, what the fuck kind of agenda would scum have needed to push? They were free to sit back and do whatever.

Which is what a lot of your filter feels like. You didn't really care if Palmar was getting lynched, or marv, or who. You just went along with the major bandwagons.

On January 06 2013 04:55 Lazermonkey wrote:
wait, what did I miss?

On January 06 2013 04:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

I thought Palmar was town for the beginning and then changed my mind when I thought he was gonna try and hide in plain sight. But he pulled his shit together which meant I wasn't gonna lynch him. Especially given Marv's flip, I'm still a little uncertain but at this point I'm pretty sure he's town. As for Marv, I'm really glad he's dead. He's literally the reason why town hasn't done shit. His spamming and dickishness was getting us nowhere and making the thread a nightmare to read. When I find a target who I'm sure is scum then I'll push them hard. But in d1, with the amount of spam in the thread and the fact that I didn't have a stronger read than Palmar's case on marv, I was willing to go along. Now had I been active when the whole BC bullshit got started I'd have certainly come out strongly against that but that's all after the fact now and I can't use that to show my innocence.

On January 06 2013 05:03 Lazermonkey wrote:
It's not my point. He said he was the BIGGEST lynch canidate for tomorrow. Why would someone of town say something like this...? Especially since its quite clear to anyone reading the thread that he in fact is NOT the biggest canidate right now. Scum is afraid to die you know. Town is not.

On January 06 2013 05:54 Palmar wrote:
I can't be around at daystart

If I get shot don't lynch marv. I absolutely despise the ragequit thing, but I don't think he's an asshole so I guess he's town.

On January 06 2013 06:04 Keirathi wrote:

Right. But we at least know he was reading the thread until well past when I joined the game. Even if he read up to the ragequit and then had to leave and never saw the modkill, he should still know I replaced Adam.

On January 06 2013 07:11 Toadesstern wrote:
I really thought you have to sac the KP preemptively..

As in:
-> Mafia shoots 3 guys n1,
-> Mafia sacs 3KP on d2
-> Mafia shoots 3 guys on d2
-> Mafia shoots 0 guys during n2 because they sacced all their KP for the day.

The way it is now they can basicly hold back 3KP and shoot 6 guys

On January 06 2013 07:15 Keirathi wrote:

What night actions does it evade?

There are no town roleblockers, watchers, trackers, etc.

On January 06 2013 07:26 Keirathi wrote:

How is it riskier if cops are still alive?

It says that mafia day vigs PM the host and the host executes the kill. Very unlikely that said person would actually claim said kill, since the OP also says all town powers are night powers except Mason.

On January 06 2013 09:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I don't get what mafia would stand to gain by shooting WBG today instead of shooting 3 others and taking care of him at night. He had a one-time power, and this way there would be questioning if WBG is really the cop or if he is scum.

On January 06 2013 14:06 iamperfection wrote:
however clarity we are lynching jackal and thats really not up for discussion otherwise.

On January 06 2013 20:20 froggynoddy wrote:


Because he was in danger of recovering town from its Day 1 mess perhaps? Palmar was happy to lynch two non-scum and he would be discredited so I'm guessing scum are gonna kill people who are going to rally town. I seriously doubt this is WBG scumpowerplay, I don't see the point for scum to risk this but hey, as someone mentioned they could be bored I guess.

##Vote: Jackal58

On January 06 2013 21:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Back to tunneling Hopeless : )

I'm actually going to concede my argument with that Hopeless meta play is making him scum. It doesn't actually. While he isn't really playing like town he isn't playing like scum either. So it's quite a null tell imo. Maybe a slight town tell even.

Hopeless, you said yourself that I shouldn't just watch TLVII Mafia because you were way more active then. You instead say I should watch Chrono trigger. CT is a completely diferent game than TLVII (which is much more similar to this game). But I must say I can see the similarities between CT and this game. Tho it's entirely possible that you are saying this just to justify your scum play.

With that being said, Hopeless is still scum : )

On January 04 2013 20:56 Palmar wrote:
Not to mention Marv agreed with a terrible case by scumdam on townity.

On January 04 2013 23:46 Palmar wrote:


I just posted the logs to become confirmedtown and to piss off marv.

On January 04 2013 23:47 Palmar wrote:
it's a decent point Jackal but lynching bugs is so last game. lynching marv is where it's at.

On January 04 2013 23:46 Jackal58 wrote:
Yea Palmar is ignoring me. Much appreciated man.
WBG is scum. He hasn't called anybody a moron yet. Only time he doesn't call people he disagrees with a moron is when he's scum. Actually I haven't seen him really disagree with anybody yet. All he's done is tunnel Palmar. A pleasant tunneling WBG is a scummy WBG. He gets my vote.

On January 06 2013 22:25 Lazermonkey wrote:
I guess scum are less inclined to vote swap close to deadline, that however, doesn't make someone town just because he vote swapped alot.

On January 06 2013 22:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Obviously, as town are more inclined to vote swap it does make sense for scum to vote swap to look like they are town.

On January 06 2013 22:48 Vivax wrote:
What the fuck Keirathi, gg

Townie things I see about sentinel are him digging up a game where he realizes that he wasn't talking about marv, it's improbable for scum to doublecheck their statements and then even admit they were wrong about something unless it's going to give them potential trouble.
He's also pretty honest about the reads he doesn't deliver. He says it's sponsored by lithium carbonate, maybe he wants to tell us he suffers from some disorder.


He's not a hot candidate for me right now, but he has made scummy decisions during the marv vs. BC phase. That caught my attention. There are still enough points out to reconsider it.

I don't agree with some of claritys reasons for finding him scummy initially, and I don't agree with him being town cause he was assuming scum wouldn't shoot bugs. It's easy to make such posts when you know what's going to happen, it's essentially WIFOM. I prefer looking for general attitude and motivations.

I find it hard to see mafia either making this mistake by accident, or making it on purpose to seem like town. Therefore Sentinel is town. Despite my case on him I quite liked his defense, in combination with this it clears him in my book.

On January 06 2013 22:58 Chezinu wrote:
The Brown Brotherhood strikes again. Well done. Tube's death was not in vain. He helped us catch yet another blue.

On January 06 2013 23:08 Vivax wrote:
That's terrible logic. You're assuming scum wouldn't do mistakes. That is pure WIFOM.

On January 06 2013 23:09 Vivax wrote:
Not even WIFOM, that's assuming mafia players would always play optimally by your standards.

On January 06 2013 23:15 Promethelax wrote:


Good enough scum players intentionally put mistakes into their play to appear townie. Don't be fooled by fools.

On January 06 2013 23:27 Promethelax wrote:


I've never played with him before but I have read AoE and pyp:r. He seemed like a good but not incredible player. I have him in my mental list of mafia players on tl as 'above average'
Someone who knows him better than I do (read at all) could tell you more.
I agree with your read and disagree with your reasons. Don't get caught up in shitty heuristics.

On January 07 2013 04:59 supersoft wrote:
i don't know? maybe we're unlucky and you took a vigshot and they have one dayvig left?

Mafia KP is # of Mafia /2 rounded up. There are 6 members of Mafia, starting KP is equal to 3.

On January 07 2013 19:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm not sure I see that as alignment indicative TBH. But it sure isn't helping us.

On January 07 2013 19:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
What are all your thoughts on Promethelax?

On January 07 2013 20:19 Palmar wrote:


Knowing I am town, this post is almost impossible to write as scum I think. Clarity looks pretty good.

If he's scum, it's very difficult to imagine Clarity being thorough enough to try to swing the lynch from one townie to another in an attempt to somehow gain credit.

The only possible explanation where Clarity is scum, is if CC is scum too and this is a bus. That is certainly possible, especially since I've never felt as good about Clarity as I felt in the last game we played town together, but I see no reason to chase that scenario when we have plenty of options left.

On January 07 2013 20:19 Palmar wrote:


Knowing I am town, this post is almost impossible to write as scum I think. Clarity looks pretty good.

If he's scum, it's very difficult to imagine Clarity being thorough enough to try to swing the lynch from one townie to another in an attempt to somehow gain credit.

The only possible explanation where Clarity is scum, is if CC is scum too and this is a bus. That is certainly possible, especially since I've never felt as good about Clarity as I felt in the last game we played town together, but I see no reason to chase that scenario when we have plenty of options left.

On January 07 2013 23:36 iamperfection wrote:
does anyone agree with me on foolishness?

On January 08 2013 02:32 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah cheesecake is hella town I know this from 2 games experience.
He IS bad town when he's town.

The cheesecake wagon is scummy. Conf town iamp's misread gave scum a great bandwagon to jump on.
@clarity why are you defending debears so hard?
also why is clarity a strong town read?? just because of his activity or what?

On January 08 2013 03:04 debears wrote:
Guys me and palmar are a scumteam

On January 08 2013 04:57 kushm4sta wrote:
it's scummy to have less time to put into the game? that is the case against cheesecake

On January 08 2013 05:01 Promethelax wrote:
Oh and Clarity, I desperately want to call you scum for saying we should lynch CC whether he is town or scum but I feel the same way. His play is inexcusable no matter his alignment though it points towards scum and that means he has to swing since we can't just give him a free ride by being an ass.

On January 08 2013 05:18 Lazermonkey wrote:
Vivax is sooo town in my book now.

The case itself seems good and I am willing to sheep it tomrrow foh sho. Also, I have a hard time to see scum backing off and admitting that one of the points in the case was flawed the way Vivax did here.

On January 08 2013 05:33 debears wrote:




Look at Hiro's read on me. Look at Laser's post

Does anyone find that they have exactly the same read troubling in terms of the BC-marv thing? Especially when Hiro nor Lazer posted anything about this til very recently?

On January 08 2013 06:24 Djodref wrote:
@ Clarity

What do you think of Hiro after my case and his list of reads plus him heading out for 48 hours ?

On January 08 2013 23:07 Vivax wrote:
Oh and why not care about Prom when you found Tunkeg suspicious?

You keep skipping that, baddie.

On January 08 2013 23:26 supersoft wrote:


good god this question is just pointless.
pointless questions are scumtells in my eyes. You all do it all the fucking time. Stop that.
You know how hard you new guys are to analyze because of this stuff?
Focus! Focus! It's too easy for scum to play in this town, because you all act like scum.

On January 08 2013 23:30 supersoft wrote:
WHERE DID I SAY YOU LOOK LIKE SCUM???

On January 08 2013 23:30 iamperfection wrote:
when i caught debars as sk in his last game i repeatedly called him bad.

On January 09 2013 16:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
he has looked more townie since i've made that case, but that's what's expected if he's scum

@clarity how is hiro "rising" on your scumlist? I can't even remember what's the last thing he's done. What's changed recently that caused him to "rise?"

On January 09 2013 16:46 thrawn2112 wrote:




it is, but the problem with clarity's post is that he was basically just calling out lurkers... the phrasing of "hiro is rising on my scumlist" seems a weird way to talk about it considering that the people at the top of his scumlist are even bigger lurkers than hiro

On January 09 2013 18:11 Palmar wrote:


Cause I'm not paying that much attention to this game honestly.

I clearly was wrong a lot, so not going to come in here yelling people should do as I say.

On January 10 2013 15:57 Toadesstern wrote:
It's 8 am in the morning over here and I haven't slept yet, which means I'll do that now... I don't think I'll make it in time except for a superficial read in which case my reads are going to be as bad as just randomly shouting names...

On January 04 2013 16:27 Toadesstern wrote:
well it's 8:00 am in europe right now, so I doubt there's going to be anything soon here.

Also doesn't look like Eywa is going to post anything at all. Weird that noone went after him so far. I would have considered him an easy way to park your vote as a mafia and thought he'll get a mention from someone. Is mafia happy about how things are going right now?

On January 05 2013 06:32 Toadesstern wrote:

finally someone who agrees with my bugs lynch.

Though I've got to say the timing of that claim really was odd and I agree with Yamato. I don't think town marv would claim 30 minutes prior to deadline leaving us in total chaos. Town marv would have at least claimed something like.... idk, 2 hours prior so we got time to get our shit together?
This claim does nothing but increase paranoia everywhere and we don't have enough time to figure stuff out.

On January 05 2013 06:48 Toadesstern wrote:
Actually, there's no MAFIA Slowcop in the game according to the OP.

If a rolecop checks a Slowcop will he get back "Slowcop" ? As in, is it possible to distinguish that from other normal cops?

Because if it is, fuck this lynch and lynch hopeless / BC and let Marv get checked. There's bound to be a rolecop somewhere with this fancy of a set-up.

On January 10 2013 16:55 Djodref wrote:


Hello Clarity !

Did you change your mind about debears since his martyr act ?

@ RoL

We need your input ASAP if you are tow. We could really use a pair of new eyes.