EPTOn January 08 2013 08:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
djo are you reading? i got the opposite read from debears' post
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On January 08 2013 08:30 Djodref wrote:
About thrawn, does that make him scum in your eyes ?
What about the rest of his filter ?
On January 08 2013 08:20 debears wrote:
Scum marv busses all the time, or at least prepares for it
WBG I was leaning town
Look it up. They brought up how "it doesn't indicate him being scum because you can't show us how his meta his scum oriented" I rephrased what I meant multiple times, and they shut it down multiple times
He displayed a decently lengthed case 20 minutes after I posted my original suspicions.
So, within 20 minutes, he had to see my case, determine if it's good, and suddenly write up something about you if he was scum.
I don't see him doing that that easily
Scum marv busses all the time, or at least prepares for it
WBG I was leaning town
Look it up. They brought up how "it doesn't indicate him being scum because you can't show us how his meta his scum oriented" I rephrased what I meant multiple times, and they shut it down multiple times
On January 07 2013 05:11 debears wrote:
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Hey Iamp. What do you think of Djodref?
I have noticed a few things that are alarming
1) His indifference to taking the helm in this game. His activity is much greater in his town games.
2) His weak reasoning for voting BC. He hides it among all the other stuff in this post, and says that the quoted post "serves mafia interest" without explaining
3) He never pushes BC after that
4) He brings up others, yet no real reasoning
I have noticed a few things that are alarming
1) His indifference to taking the helm in this game. His activity is much greater in his town games.
2) His weak reasoning for voting BC. He hides it among all the other stuff in this post, and says that the quoted post "serves mafia interest" without explaining
On January 05 2013 06:31 Djodref wrote:
I don't think marv is a good lynch for today.
Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment).
I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town.
So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself
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I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'.
First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well.
Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel.
##Vote BC
I don't think marv is a good lynch for today.
Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment).
I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town.
So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself
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On January 05 2013 02:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck?
Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day.
People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion.
##vote palmar
I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up
I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck?
Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day.
People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion.
##vote palmar
I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up
I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'.
First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well.
Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel.
##Vote BC
3) He never pushes BC after that
4) He brings up others, yet no real reasoning
On January 05 2013 23:37 Djodref wrote:
I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow. I have yet to see them do proper scumhunting.
I don't think they are all scum though. I'll see how they react to the pressure.
What I really like in Clarity's case against Sentinel is how Sentinel is promising to read the thread, without delivering.
For example, this was totally unnecessary. And reading Adam's filter takes like less than 5 minutes, so he could have given us his insight instead of saying this.
One other thing I didn't like is this post
I don't think Sentinel should feel any fear of being killed tonight. It's again another indirect way to hint that he is town, when he doesn't really need to.
I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow. I have yet to see them do proper scumhunting.
I don't think they are all scum though. I'll see how they react to the pressure.
What I really like in Clarity's case against Sentinel is how Sentinel is promising to read the thread, without delivering.
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On January 05 2013 00:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.
Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period
As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.
Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period
For example, this was totally unnecessary. And reading Adam's filter takes like less than 5 minutes, so he could have given us his insight instead of saying this.
One other thing I didn't like is this post
I don't think Sentinel should feel any fear of being killed tonight. It's again another indirect way to hint that he is town, when he doesn't really need to.
On January 07 2013 05:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
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smiley djo is scum
Day 1
With his first post he comes in with a bunch of reasonable sounding fluff about all the policy lynches he doesn't agree with. He is ok with a lurker lynch, but there is nobody he thinks is scum. His next post was a defense of tunkeg... still djo doesn't have a scumread. His thrid post comes during he marv wagon, and he disagrees with the marv lynch,and lynches bc because bc is the counterwagon. (and now we know bc is town) He does not have any scumreads for all of d1 and ends up parking his vote on a townie to save another townie....
Here is what djo has to say about bc when he votes:
and that's the entirety of he scumhuning djo did on day 1, up until he justifies his vote for BC (a townie)
Continuation of D1's non scumhunting
After D1 djo talks about a lot of random stuff and gets into random conversations, non of them related to scumhunting. It starts with this post and ends right before this one:
That's 13 posts where he isn't scumhunting, just 'participating' in the thread. And in that post where he finally calls people out as people he'd want to lynch, 2 of them (hopeless and mz) dont show up anywhere else in his filter so far. The obvious trend here is that djo hasn't been doing any scumhunting but will randomly have person(s) he wants to lynch who he's said nothing about so far.
Everything Else
Everything after the post where he calls out sentinel, mz, and hopeless is a lot like the rest of his filter. He'll get into conversations but never seems to be scumhunting or pressing reads. A lot of the time he's just arguing and giving people town reads. I also think this could be a scumslip:
He says he doesn't think kush is scum, because kush would be bussing.... how does he know kush isn't bussing?
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TLDR: he doesn't scumhunt, ever
Day 1
With his first post he comes in with a bunch of reasonable sounding fluff about all the policy lynches he doesn't agree with. He is ok with a lurker lynch, but there is nobody he thinks is scum. His next post was a defense of tunkeg... still djo doesn't have a scumread. His thrid post comes during he marv wagon, and he disagrees with the marv lynch,and lynches bc because bc is the counterwagon. (and now we know bc is town) He does not have any scumreads for all of d1 and ends up parking his vote on a townie to save another townie....
Here is what djo has to say about bc when he votes:
On January 05 2013 06:31 Djodref wrote:
I don't think marv is a good lynch for today.
Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment).
I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town.
So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself
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I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'.
First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well.
Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel.
##Vote BC
I don't think marv is a good lynch for today.
Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment).
I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town.
So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself
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On January 05 2013 02:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck?
Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day.
People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion.
##vote palmar
I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up
I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck?
Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day.
People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion.
##vote palmar
I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up
I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'.
First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well.
Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel.
##Vote BC
and that's the entirety of he scumhuning djo did on day 1, up until he justifies his vote for BC (a townie)
Continuation of D1's non scumhunting
After D1 djo talks about a lot of random stuff and gets into random conversations, non of them related to scumhunting. It starts with this post and ends right before this one:
On January 05 2013 23:37 Djodref wrote:
I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow. I have yet to see them do proper scumhunting.
I don't think they are all scum though. I'll see how they react to the pressure.
What I really like in Clarity's case against Sentinel is how Sentinel is promising to read the thread, without delivering.
For example, this was totally unnecessary. And reading Adam's filter takes like less than 5 minutes, so he could have given us his insight instead of saying this.
One other thing I didn't like is this post
I don't think Sentinel should feel any fear of being killed tonight. It's again another indirect way to hint that he is town, when he doesn't really need to.
I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow. I have yet to see them do proper scumhunting.
I don't think they are all scum though. I'll see how they react to the pressure.
What I really like in Clarity's case against Sentinel is how Sentinel is promising to read the thread, without delivering.
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On January 05 2013 00:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.
Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period
As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.
Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period
For example, this was totally unnecessary. And reading Adam's filter takes like less than 5 minutes, so he could have given us his insight instead of saying this.
One other thing I didn't like is this post
I don't think Sentinel should feel any fear of being killed tonight. It's again another indirect way to hint that he is town, when he doesn't really need to.
That's 13 posts where he isn't scumhunting, just 'participating' in the thread. And in that post where he finally calls people out as people he'd want to lynch, 2 of them (hopeless and mz) dont show up anywhere else in his filter so far. The obvious trend here is that djo hasn't been doing any scumhunting but will randomly have person(s) he wants to lynch who he's said nothing about so far.
Everything Else
Everything after the post where he calls out sentinel, mz, and hopeless is a lot like the rest of his filter. He'll get into conversations but never seems to be scumhunting or pressing reads. A lot of the time he's just arguing and giving people town reads. I also think this could be a scumslip:
On January 05 2013 22:44 Djodref wrote:
I have to look it up for marv. I've heard somewhere sometime that he had been bussing almost his whole scumteam in one game.
But it's definitively true for kush, and it's also true for me. That's why I really don't think kush is scum in this game by the ay.
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On January 05 2013 22:40 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:38 Djodref wrote:
This is not true. I don't think it's true for marv because he has to deliver, regardless of his alignment, and it's definitively not true for kush.
I also like to bus by the way
If this is true than I will reconsider. But the question is: is it true?On January 05 2013 22:34 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC
You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ.
It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard
In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum.On January 05 2013 22:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,
Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.
Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing?On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1.
Your reasoning is bad.
I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
[quote]Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.
[quote]Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.
Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1.
Your reasoning is bad.
You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,
Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.
HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC
You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ.
It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard
This is not true. I don't think it's true for marv because he has to deliver, regardless of his alignment, and it's definitively not true for kush.
I also like to bus by the way
I have to look it up for marv. I've heard somewhere sometime that he had been bussing almost his whole scumteam in one game.
But it's definitively true for kush, and it's also true for me. That's why I really don't think kush is scum in this game by the ay.
He says he doesn't think kush is scum, because kush would be bussing.... how does he know kush isn't bussing?
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TLDR: he doesn't scumhunt, ever
He displayed a decently lengthed case 20 minutes after I posted my original suspicions.
So, within 20 minutes, he had to see my case, determine if it's good, and suddenly write up something about you if he was scum.
I don't see him doing that that easily
About thrawn, does that make him scum in your eyes ?
What about the rest of his filter ?
djo are you reading? i got the opposite read from debears' post
speaking of the devil...
Where were you ?
And, yeah, sorry, I didn't understand correctly ^^
