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Happy to be here with ya all ! I am french leaving in HK and pretty bored at work currently so this game will have my full attention. This is my first MAFIA game on a chat thread, but I have played a lot with real friends in real life. So it should be pretty cool. One first guess on the voting system is that people who are already given a BYE from first round are at a disadvantage (cause they have one less chance to be out) and on top of that they are higher seeded hence at a second disadvantage in case of 0-0 tie. Pretty unfair isn't it. I guess it must have been a master plan from the Alien Invaders who put themselves all as the lowest seeded people. I would put focus on eliminating players number 10, 11 and 12 this round if possible. What do you guys think ? At least i am trying to put a lead on who is what.... Daoud. | ||
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Hence it is like us having unlimited number of votes, isn't it ? | ||
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On October 10 2012 14:18 sandroba wrote: Hey. Is this to be taken serious? Are you missing the point of the game or making a joke? Indeed, this was not to be taken seriously. However, I am not sure why receiving a BYE on first round would not make you more likely to be lynched in the end. | ||
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Sorry for being late to reply but timezone differences is not easy to manage. First regarding the very "weird" part of my post regarding "Alien Invaders". I don't know if my english is that bad and I cannot read properly but I thought the introduction post was putting a theme : On October 10 2012 11:00 kitaman27 wrote: Day 1 Ladies and gentlemen, you have all been gathered here today to participate in a game of epic proportions! Alien invaders have arrived from Moron Mountain and have challenged you to a high stakes contest. These aliens must be identified before they kidnap you one by one to serve as their entertainment slaves. Anyway this is not very important. The rest of my post was indeed made to get some action going on, because we could be talking about rules for a long time, but we need to me more focus on finding who is scum who is not. Obviously I won't be voting blindly to make seeds 10, 11, 12 move on. On October 10 2012 19:31 Djodref wrote: According to this, Hiropro and Daoud have made scummy posts so far because it looks like they want to focus the discussion of the lynch rules. Also Daoud first post came off as weird in my eyes. It looks like he's going to prepare an excuse like "I didn't understand today's lynch principle" for later. @Daoud What was your motivation for your first post ? I would vote Djodref if I could because pretty much one of his first post is directly oriented towards me so he can be saved. As Townies we have more pieces of information than scums hence we need to try things to get something back to make a decision and see whoelse is a townie. On October 10 2012 20:40 sandroba wrote: @da0ud Yes, those people are at disavantage. How is that relevant to who is scum or not? Indeed this is not relevant, I was stating a fact, scum or not should be random within these matchups. On October 11 2012 01:22 Djodref wrote: @austin The feeling I got from them is that they were willing to spend more time discussing the lynch mechanics. I’ve compared them to sandroba and ET and I felt like those last ones want to close the discussion. I don‘t think that I have said that discussing lynch mechanics is scummy. What I wanted to say is that we cannot afford to much time doing this. So the people asking for more insight on their views are scummy imo. Totally agree with Djodref on that point. I think indeed spending time on finding who is who is more important. and i put u as scum... On October 11 2012 08:16 austinmcc wrote: I'm of the opposite mind as prplhz and kush on the double D lynch. da0ud I don't think first time scum (at least here) would come in, drop a post that wasn't serious, and then jet forever. I would think he'd be concerned about being found out, do something more. His first post DOES feel kind of constructed, Hi again guys! and "Daoud" to sign out. But I think it's a post constructed by a townie. Like a scummy constructed post would be in response to a question, or would be pushing someone, or doing SOMETHING. A post that's constructed and does NOTHING doesn't point scum to me. I also think that's an important difference, and just hammering at "constructed = scum" is possibly scummy. Just like "possibly scummy" is scummy for being wishy washy... I also think that mentioning someone might have planned for scum to be the low numbers in the game is probably not from mafia? That sounds like paranoid townie talk to me. Thank you, you are the only one i think who understood really what I meant. I hope you are not using me. On October 11 2012 06:46 kushm4sta wrote: Yeah daoud vs djodref.. I'm on team djodref meaning I vote for daoud to advance. Daoud's post just seems so awkward. Admittedly a lot of this is probably because English isn't his first language. But the awkwardness goes beyond that. His alien joke makes no sense I don't care what language he thought up the joke in. His concern about the bye: He's right, that getting a bye makes it easier for you to be lynched. But he calls it a "disadvantage." Scum would be more likely to think of it this way. He is not approaching the bracket as an opportunity to catch scum, but as a trial to avoid lynch. He has the natural fear of a scum. He is my #1 scum read right now and I definitely want him to go through. I totally don't agree with you. YES this is a disadvantage. You have more chance to get lynched. You want my to do the maths ? Even people with a BYE on first round can vote for other matchups and read people on the first round. Being present at the first round from scums is too me on more opportunity to escape the lynch rather that getting more read on him. What if he says no word at all during the all round. People will have to put votes on him on each of them while him giving no piece of information on what he could be, hence more probability to survive the day. 100% a disadvantage. Hence this post puts you on top of my list of scums. Sorry I totally missed the deadline for first round of votes, I really wanted to but have been more busy that I thought. Hence this long post today. | ||
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On October 11 2012 08:21 austinmcc wrote: I also do not want to get lynched, and I am town. I view starting one step closer to lynch as a "disadvantage." Yes, it's kind of weird phrasing, but townies don't want to get lynched either. I don't read that as really pointing one way or the other, whereas I read his comment about wanting to lynch seeds 10, 11, and 12 because they might have rigged the bracket that we have been told by mods was random as a townie thing. It shows...unhealthy paranoia about things that cannot be true? Like +1 | ||
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On October 11 2012 10:36 sandroba wrote: Yo. I want da0ud to go to the next round. I have a hunch and those have been pretty good historically. Shame i didn't go through and cannot get lynched, you would have seen how good your hunch was.... May I have a recap of your historical hunch in order to maker an empirical rule on your reads ? Definitely you will get my vote this round at least x1. | ||
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On October 11 2012 13:00 Hopeless1der wrote: Is this going to change da0ud? Will you usually be here at the deadline or not? Going to bed now. I'll make sure I make a first vote before going to bed next time, even though this is like 10 hours before deadline. And if anything changes I'll amend it. Your concern about me being able to vote for lynching mafia (aka Aliens ![]() | ||
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On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote: @daoud so lol. Clarify how he can be using you? Well, as he was the only one really supporting me, he could easily get my trust and getting me to follow his lead on who to vote against, etc. If he was mafia, then that would be another bullet for the mafia team (ie : getting a townie to follow their voting pattern). Maybe what i say doesn't make sense, but : * Let say we are 9 townies, 3 mafia. * One of the mafia supports the "weird" guy (who is the only one who reads the theme of the game :D) * Let's assume this guy is now 40% following the conviction of the manipulator. * Town is now made of 3.4 mafia vs 8.6 townies, and the plague is spreading. But I am not that dumb (or am I ?), I'll make decisions by myself. | ||
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I will be super not busy for the next 4hrs. Please ALL wake up !! On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote: so lol. Clarify how he can be using you? kush ? shall I end up my post with "so lol" as well, so i can freely make fun of people. | ||
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I actually already put a first draft of vote in the outside thread. Only voting for Djodref x1 Currently no real read or gut feeling on first two matches (Thrawn vs Hope) nor (Hiro vs ON). So I won't put a vote in yet. Regarding your matchup against sandroba, I don't mind either of you to move on, so i will save my vote for the time being. In the last matchup i will vote Djodref for lighting up the accusation against me in the first round. Now that i can vote against him i do it. This can all change depending on how things go. | ||
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On October 11 2012 17:35 thrawn2112 wrote: "Hunches" aren't good enough explanations for me. And this is the 2nd case where sandroba has a read but he's not willing to go the distance to push his votes. He says prplhz is his top scum read, never votes for him or mentions him again. He wants da0ud to go through based on a hunch, and he puts a lot of weight behind the validity of his hunches. Yet he doesn't put enough votes in to push da0ud through. So that's twice where his stated intentions don't match up with his actions. So you wanted me to go through ? Not nice ![]() I just cannot make up my mind on who is the scummiest between him and kush. | ||
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On October 11 2012 17:52 thrawn2112 wrote: No I wanted djodref to go through that's why I voted for him lol. What I was talking about is that sandroba's votes weren't lining up with his words. He put no effort into pushing his top scumread (prplhz) and he didn't have the balls to put enough votes on you to push you through, despite having a hunch after saying that his hunches are usually correct. I know don't worry. Let me find some time to elaborate on Sand and Kush. | ||
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On October 10 2012 20:40 sandroba wrote: @prpl You are my best scum read so far, how do you feel about that <3 @mementoss Don't be stupid. Town# > Mafia# by default. That's the dumbest shit I've read so far and let me tell you there is plenty dumb shit about. First statement coming from nowhere and second one just insulting Mementoss freely. Sure Town>Mafia, but someone who would worry about the number of Mafia people sounds townie to me. Getting accused of stupid on this topic would show me a mafia bullying a townie. On October 10 2012 20:46 sandroba wrote: You don't have to vote anyone right now. You have however many votes you want (max 10). You misrepresented ET impossible ratio quote so somehow he knew the mafia number which we don't know yet so you can vote ET. Yes, that's dumb. insulting On October 10 2012 21:07 sandroba wrote: I'm mad when I can't distiguish between someone being crazy or trying to make a fake contribution. You can vote for whoever you like as long as your explanation doesn't stink. And as long as the person can even get votes, which ET can't even get this round. Better luck reading the game and the thread next time. insulting On October 11 2012 10:31 sandroba wrote: Djoref dude looks town to me. Da0ud could go either way, leaning scum atm. I'm actually surprised he was winning, anyone care to explain it to me? austin? How could Djodref look town ? He doesn't look 100% mafia but he does at least look like 70% of it. On October 11 2012 10:36 sandroba wrote: Yo. I want da0ud to go to the next round. I have a hunch and those have been pretty good historically. Coming from nowhere trying to protect Djodref. On October 11 2012 11:22 sandroba wrote: ON why the votes on djoref? Another post to back up someone. Not a post like "why don't you vote against Da0ud he looks suspicious/ you should follow my "HuncH" ". Instead the post should be read why do you vote against my matey Djodref. | ||
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On October 11 2012 00:28 kushm4sta wrote: I'm putting my votes down now in the voting thread and yes I'm going to vote on every matchup. I prioritize voting bad people over good people just because I think we are more likely to catch a bad scum than a good scum today, also lynching a good town is way worse than lynching bad town. I am also prioritizing voting for afks instead of actives. hopeless1der x1 originalname x1 da0ud x1 This is total scum talk, trying to elaborate and why he would vote for killing townies and that it would be not suspiscious when after we realise he lynched a townie. He will say : I was only doing vote against my will : ok he was town but he was not participating, so not my fault. Oh yes he was town but he was a BAD player. @ Kush : Please elaborate what a BAD town is ? On October 11 2012 06:46 kushm4sta wrote: Yeah daoud vs djodref.. I'm on team djodref meaning I vote for daoud to advance. Daoud's post just seems so awkward. Admittedly a lot of this is probably because English isn't his first language. But the awkwardness goes beyond that. His alien joke makes no sense I don't care what language he thought up the joke in. His concern about the bye: He's right, that getting a bye makes it easier for you to be lynched. But he calls it a "disadvantage." Scum would be more likely to think of it this way. He is not approaching the bracket as an opportunity to catch scum, but as a trial to avoid lynch. He has the natural fear of a scum. He is my #1 scum read right now and I definitely want him to go through. Another person backing up another one (ie: Djodref once more), so a vote to protect his accomplice. And I have already explained WHY the rest of his post is totally scummy post. Trying to pretend it is not a disadvantage for a townie to be put directly in second round. On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote: @daoud K I had no idea there was alien theme...I almost never read flavor text! sorry mods. That does excuse your terrible alien joke though. Everyone understood what you meant. If you are scum it is clearly a disadvantage to have a bye. If you are town it's not a disadvantage because your aim isn't to survive, it's to hunt scum. Please explain me how you do hunt scum if you don't survive ? The rest of his posts are trying to be nicer with me, because he realises I am not as dumb and bad in english as he would have expected/hoped. My alien joke.... yes i read the intro. He agrees on how I could have been made a mini-scum without arguing against it. Maybe you don't want me to form an alliance with another townie so soon in the game ? | ||
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On October 11 2012 19:02 thrawn2112 wrote: I'm confused, what is this mini-scum stuff you two are talking about and what do you mean by "form an alliance with another townie so soon in the game?" @ Thrawn : here is the part i was talking about the mini-scum : On October 11 2012 14:38 da0ud wrote: Well, as he was the only one really supporting me, he could easily get my trust and getting me to follow his lead on who to vote against, etc. If he was mafia, then that would be another bullet for the mafia team (ie : getting a townie to follow their voting pattern). Maybe what i say doesn't make sense, but : * Let say we are 9 townies, 3 mafia. * One of the mafia supports the "weird" guy (who is the only one who reads the theme of the game :D) * Let's assume this guy is now 40% following the conviction of the manipulator. * Town is now made of 3.4 mafia vs 8.6 townies, and the plague is spreading. But I am not that dumb (or am I ?), I'll make decisions by myself. | ||
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On October 12 2012 10:56 Djodref wrote: Hello guys ! I finally got away from the meeting ^^ I just have caught up with the thread on my phone. First I would like to say that the predictions were a (failed) attempt to make my comments look like a starcraft MU preview. Thank you Kush for understanding me and believing in me ![]() Just a quick post about the people who are going to advance:
No Starcraft like prediction this time Djo ? ![]() Agree with you on Sand vs Kush. Kush posts much more and his creating noise in order to get some clues on who could be scum or not. Sorry havent been posting much today but i was swamped at work. Should be much quieter for the rest of the day. | ||
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It bothers me as well that ON doesnt seem to care very much and has posted only a few messages. Most of them being useless (like his phone being dead for 24hrs, the panic votes). Since then nothing has been posted and I agree that it seems odd for someone from town not to participate in the lynching process as it is its only real way of finding scum. I would expect even more a townie to participate if he is still on for lynching. It makes sense for mafia not to worry about advancing if his accomplices do manage to save him at any future round. H1 posts seems pretty coherent i am maybe too newbie to have a good read out of it. I haven't played no game with any of you in the past, and i actually don't really want to because i want to make myself an opinion out of your posts and not ur behaviour in other games. | ||
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1) Only ET has been twice voting for someone he would face in the next round. Djo in the first round when he had a BYE and kush in second. If he was a scum, I would them believe Djo and kush are not. Because at first glance it doesnt seem logic to vote for your mate so that one of you for sure would advance to the next round. He is the only one who has ever voted on the next potential opponent. 2) on Mementoss : he seems to be throwing away votes on as many people as possible and of oppisite logic. Already voted for 4 people which is the most of all of us. First round he votes for Djo and kush to make them move to the next round on their respective matches. But when they move on he decides to now vote on none of them but even worse voting for their opponents in the matchups hence actually totally changing his mind on them and now backing them up. Should have voted again for them to follow his initial logic. 3) Austin looks too unconcerned after being saved on the first round, He hasn't voted anyone in the second round. Looks to me more like a scum who now hides to get us to forget about him. To me a townie, even saved should continue to be implicated in the votes in order to gather as much information as possible on other players. Please let me know your thoughts.... | ||
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On October 12 2012 17:57 thrawn2112 wrote: Apart from saying how they feel about the other matchup, I'd like the lynch candidates to also give their top scumread. That also goes for everyone else. We've been focusing too much on the mechanics and worrying too much about "well this guy is scummier than that guy" but we need to be discussing our top scumreads. Right now sandroba takes that spot for me so I plan on pushing hard for his lynch. I would go for Sand > Mementoss > Austin > Djo. | ||
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On October 12 2012 18:06 Djodref wrote: I think you want to give yourself some presence in the thread by asking everybody if they are here for deadline or not. In reality you just want to know if you can safely do you unvoting cuisine. Agreed | ||
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On October 12 2012 18:06 Djodref wrote: What I understood from this answer is that knowing who is present at deadline prevents crazy things from happening. I think that the simplest way from preventing crazy thing to happen is to use your votes and sticking to them. Unvoting like you do results in more possibilities for outcome of MUs to change, something you want to prevent by asking everybody if they are going to be present at deadline or not. Actually I agree more on that part, but I think we are not allowed to edit posts so I will double post. Hence me voting yesterday 12hrs before the deadline and sticking to it. | ||
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On October 12 2012 21:30 kushm4sta wrote: @djo why are you assuming you will be voted over sandroba? Hence if Djo is scum then ON cannot be scum, if Djo's assumption of being in the final is correct. | ||
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Sorry,,,, again mistypo, I meant If Djo is scum then Hopeless cannot be scum. So either both are townies, or Djo is scum and Hopeless not, or Djo is town and Hopeless is scum. But not both scum. | ||
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On October 13 2012 00:12 EchelonTee wrote: This post is pretty strange from you. You spent a fairly long post (listed above) detailing your opinions on 3 players, in an organized listed manner. But when it comes to 1der vs ON, a matchup that actually is in play right now, you are much more unclear and hesitant. 1. This point doesn't really hold; you say that a townie who is still in the running for a lynch would probably be more active, which is true. But a scum who is up for lynch would also probably be more active, compared to if he wasn't up for lynch. While I have my own reasons for being suspicious of ON, your logic here is a lot less laid out then your previous points. 2. It's not ok to put down an opinion, then say "well I'm not so sure because I'm a newbie". It seems like you're trying to shy away from responsibility for your actions. Especially because you are more assertive in other posts. If you could make a more definitive stance on 1der/ON, that would be nice. 1) I do maintain my feeling that it makes more sense For town on to plead your case over mafia as u dun really hv yet anyone to really back u up. This is what bother me the most about ON. His lurking made him scummy to me. 2) it was a pretty bad way of me saying I don't have a strong view on him yet. I would then put a vote on ON. But now that I think about it. What to really feel about Djo's vote on ET. Isn't to actually save the scummy lurker? I already stated that there is a high chance that djo and ET cannot be mafia together. If Djo actually is, then his massive 6 votes against ET looks more like a vote to save his accomplice ON. PS: sorry for bad spelling but typing with my phone and this is a massacre... | ||
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All these mistakes don't help me plead my case. Had 4 hours sleep last night so please bear with me. Bed time now. Will put votes down few hours before deadline. | ||
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I like the vote the way it is without mine. So I won't use any | ||
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I do want Sand > Djo which is the case right now. From what i said earlier I dont think either that Djo and Hopeless can both be mafia, hence at least we are saving one valuable town with constructive agrumentation. | ||
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On October 13 2012 11:00 EchelonTee wrote: Vote bombing ON, fuck it. I don't want 1der to die and idgaf between ON and sandroba, both should die at this point. Wahouuu I didn't see the 6 votes on Hopeless from kush and at the last second you actually vote on ON. Only looked at the update. Happy with how it went then ! | ||
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What if he has a town read on Hope, then his last second vote makes perfect sense | ||
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On October 13 2012 11:11 kushm4sta wrote: haha look at vote thread you got owned et Oh boy | ||
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On October 13 2012 11:12 EchelonTee wrote: da0ud. We're killing sandroba. I'm 99% sure 1der is a townie. I have this feeling as well. I will need to be sure though. With 9 votes, I should be able to make a difference. | ||
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Hence ON and Sand cannot both be scums. It is actually a good result to have Sand vs Hopeless | ||
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Now I am pretty sure at least one town is in the finals. Let's hope there are not two of them and we find the scummy one | ||
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On October 13 2012 11:30 EchelonTee wrote: Sandroba, and a bullet into OriginalName. I would want a double lynch. even though you dont like them both it would not really make sense. | ||
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On October 13 2012 11:44 austinmcc wrote: ET. Pretend for a moment that you're ET this game. (Or, if you don't have to pretend, please let us know). You and your hypothetical scumbuddies are hanging out in QT, discussing how to play out the matchups and how you want to vote and do scummy stuff and whatnot. The following questions come up, as to how each of you wants to do things. How do you respond? Do you guys make sure to sometimes be on opposite sides of a matchup? Or do you not care if 2 scum players vote together the entire way through D1? Say in round 1 or round 2 there's a matchup that you want to influence, one of your scumbuddies is neck and neck with a townie. Do you just vote that matchup? Or do you vote that matchup + 1 or 2 that you don't care about, in order to hide the vote you actually want to make in with some that don't make a difference to you? Is there any particular player you think is a likely D1 mislynch, just looking at player list and like...the first couple pages of the game. If so, who? I do care and that's why I did write a post questioning your actions and the ones from Mementoss. On October 12 2012 18:06 da0ud wrote: Trying to get some reads/assocation of people from previous votes. 1) Only ET has been twice voting for someone he would face in the next round. Djo in the first round when he had a BYE and kush in second. If he was a scum, I would them believe Djo and kush are not. Because at first glance it doesnt seem logic to vote for your mate so that one of you for sure would advance to the next round. He is the only one who has ever voted on the next potential opponent. 2) on Mementoss : he seems to be throwing away votes on as many people as possible and of oppisite logic. Already voted for 4 people which is the most of all of us. First round he votes for Djo and kush to make them move to the next round on their respective matches. But when they move on he decides to now vote on none of them but even worse voting for their opponents in the matchups hence actually totally changing his mind on them and now backing them up. Should have voted again for them to follow his initial logic. 3) Austin looks too unconcerned after being saved on the first round, He hasn't voted anyone in the second round. Looks to me more like a scum who now hides to get us to forget about him. To me a townie, even saved should continue to be implicated in the votes in order to gather as much information as possible on other players. Please let me know your thoughts.... The only thing i had against you is that you voted in first round then got saved and then didn't really care/ participate/ scum hunt which would still be priority for a townie (even saved) I do actually like the way you address tactics than could have been put in place by mafia to influence vote. I did the same in looking for betting patterns, etc. But i think there is too few pieces of info available on the voting patterns... yet. | ||
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On October 13 2012 12:11 thrawn2112 wrote: do0ud wtf are you talking about who are you responding to Looks pretty obvious I was talking to austin... | ||
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One first thing on my vote against San is at the time as default choice between two people I found scummy. I found more content on sand than on the lurker ON. And at the time I put my votes there was already 11 votes on san. I was following the crowd. Overnight the defense of Sand got pretty intense and sure would I have shifted my votes towards ON, not that it would have made a difference anyway. Even if it is not confirmed I am fairly sure Sand is town cause he put his votes on ON to go to the final which would not make sense for a scum to push another scum to face him in finals. At this stage I am pretty sure as well mementoss is scum. I already put it as second scum read from the round of 4 but now put him as top read. | ||
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On October 14 2012 16:51 thrawn2112 wrote: yeah the bolded part just screams noob mafia Ok you voted for sandroba because: "One first thing on my vote against San is at the time as default choice between two people I found scummy." but here are the most recent cases of you talking about either of them: So please show me where you found ON scummy. In fact it seems like you weren't "thinking" ON was scum... your reason for voting him was always policy related: Oh and I'm not really convinced about memtoss.... I don't buy that he was bussing ON. His votes for ON came at a time when a bus would have been extremely stupid or extremely clever and I doubt he's capable of either. I think he was the first person to actually vote ON. Maybe a scum memtoss would have figured that sand is getting lynched no matter what but I doubt he'd have taken that risk. True Thrawn, if found them both scummy but I knew (however not 100% guaranteed) they were not both scummy. They could even have both been town. I had to go for the one I felt was the scummiest. As you said ON was more scummy from his lurking attitude, hence I did not have all that much against him. At the time I voted, San sounded the scummiest to me especially after his "i dont give a sh!t post, I am not gonna defend myself", while town should in my opinion try everything to avoid a mislynch. On October 13 2012 16:00 sandroba wrote: I'm not going to fight against this lynch. This is simply too stupid to fight over and I don't feel like it. If you people stopped one second to look at this thread you would come to realise that is simply no way I'm scum purely based on how this situation came to be. Also there is no case against me. I refuse to defend myself against the ignorant uninformed opinion of a bunch of riotters. This is no way to play mafia. You have to look at the intricacies and not follow the mob rule that is usually driven by scum. I leave you sheep to your fate. My reads so far is that ET austin hiro and kush are town. I honestly don't know anymore about ON cuz I would expect him to try to at least keep apearances as scum. This djodref is either very dumb or scum. You would never as town (and inteligent) feel that a person that is standing up to you against the majority trying to lynch would be scum. Prpl and mementos are prob scum. If you go to the thread arround that time, you will see that Sand doesnt send any other message to defend himself until my vote. On October 13 2012 22:07 da0ud wrote: sandroba x9 I find it a bit easy a day ( = round) ago to say, I am pretty sure Da0ud is town cause he sounds like noob town. And then shift to he is too noob to be a good mafia so this is obvious now he is scummy. It would be 100% dumb for mafia people not to be around at deadline and not to try to hide their intentions while voting ON when he knows his fate is doomed. I would look for scum people within the ones here around deadline and trying to put focus on Sandrosa... Only kush, austin and prplhz were here. I cannot see how prplhz could be scum because he is the one who actually changed the fate of Sand. Then we have austin putting extra 3 useless votes on ON... Furthermore, I was the first one to look at patterns and i would personally go as well for someone who put votes on ON at a time it did not matter at all (or switching votes at that moment). I can see Mementoss for example putting votes on ON when San was leading 20-0. What about Djodref dumping all his votes on round of 4 on Hopeless, was it maybe at the time an attempt to avoid facing ON in the finals ?? Could be a nice way as well not have suspicions put on him after the final round of votes... | ||
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On October 14 2012 21:51 kushm4sta wrote: This is first time scum? Yeah math can be an indication of scum wanting to appear active, but keep in mind this was an explanation that I requested. I don't think first time scum would try to fake this level of newbie paranoia. Look how eager he is to interact. As scum I would think he'd be more afraid. Haha. | ||
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On October 15 2012 12:32 thrawn2112 wrote: Who would you pass it to if we agreed that you don't have to hold it? I would pass it to Mementoss or Hopeless, as they were the last two ones to participate in the chat during the night. We were told that as soon as everyone was done with the night actions, the night would be over. The order of people posting overnight was : 1) Thrawn 2) Prplz 3) Sand 4) Austin 5) Kush 6) ET 7) Hiro 8) Djo 9) Da0ud 10) Mem 11) Hopeless1 Mem with two posts only one at 11pm (HK time) then the last one before day 2 at 2:11am (a bit too close the Day2 official post) Hopeless first and only post at 1:50am and Day 2 starts at 2.14am. So i will put Hopeless > Mementoss as i always thought Mem was scum, but Hopeless was too me the limiting factor of the night decisions to me. I will hence KEEP the potato until you ask me to pass it to where the majority (let say 5, i wont include myself) decides. | ||
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On October 15 2012 12:51 Djodref wrote: @prplhz Do you have any intent to pass the bomb to me ? I would like to burn my hide but I don't want to really hide... @daoud If you really are town, doing it this way would not help us find the scum. They would just go on holidays and wait for you to blow up ^^ The only information we would gather at the end is that you were town (but are you?). If you play the potato game, we may have more discussion and it is going to help us to find the remaining mafia players. On top of that, nobody can make sure that you are going to be lynched today. If you want to hold the potato until you explode, it's your choice, but I don't think it is a townie decision. It looks more like a caught scum behavior (retaining information for his buddies). 1) If I were scum, it is scumhunting to keep the potato. 2) I have given my top choices to who i would give the potato, if i were to decide. 3) I would not want to hold the patato, i said I will hold it until majority decides who they want me to give to. To me this is a townie attitude. | ||
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On October 15 2012 13:22 Djodref wrote: No I'm pretty sure he didn't know about the blues. He's a real total newbie... @daoud If the majority is wrong about you, you have to prove them wrong. If you are really town, you shouldn't hold onto the potato for these reasons:
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1) My first scum read on him was by looking at the way he could have tried to hide his action by being the one voting on the most people after round one and two. 4 different people including Sand who was town (two votes) and kush as well who is the one is consider the towniest currently. He has been changing his attitude : voting kush in the first round and then not following it by voting sand in second round. Or voting Djo in first round and then switching it up by going for ET in round two. 2) in the finals he did probably hide his votes by putting them on ON when San was leading 20-0. Changing his mind later on and putting votes on Sand when ON was catching up would have looked too very odd. 3) He has never been attacking directly ON, kind of defending him on posts and saying San is scummier. On October 11 2012 02:24 Mementoss wrote: 1. Mementoss: Town 2. OriginalName: Has been active after the game has started and chose not to participate in any discussion. Other than that nothing. Seems pretty scummy. Already ahead by 3 votes, I have no reason to use a vote on him right now. On October 12 2012 04:37 Mementoss wrote: 2. OriginalName Lurking pretty hard as well. Only has one post with content so far. But it brings up some pretty decent points. Still he needs more activity into the game, looking forward to what his thoughts are on the other players/matchups. Null. Not voting either. 3. Sandropa: I don't like his posting at all this game. As others have said, most of his posting has been here are my thoughts and gives no reasoning. ET defends him with his meta in this statement: "Sandroba is one of those super strong town players who is comparatively abysmal as a mafia player. When he's mafia, his lack of effort and interest becomes abundantly clear very quickly, sort of like Palmar but even moreso, IMO. Therefore, when he plays mafia I find that he runs active disruption to try and make as much chaos as possible until he inevitably gets shot/lynched. " Which I don't know how ET thinks hes following this, is he reading the same game I am? I think if anything he looks like mafia meta this game, lack of effort and interest seem prevelant in this game, and no attempt to find any scum at all. I would really like him to go through and put some pressure on him to persue some reads. Looks scummy to me. 2 votes. On October 13 2012 22:53 Mementoss wrote: Also ET I know you explained it but its still fucking weird that you LAST MINUTE dropped all your votes on ON, after expecting him for a modkill, not having a read on him. And having a scum read on hopeless all of the first 2 cycles, you save him last minute. Not sure which way I will be voting today yet. On October 14 2012 00:31 Mementoss wrote: I will be putting all my votes on ON unless he returns then Sounds like a defaults choice, when ON is afk and lead 20-0. 4) All of mementoss argumentation is otherwise based on saying he is town because he used his votes earlier, he am concerned some people kept some votes and are powerful in the finals. Good way to hide the fact he actually doesn't affect anything in the vote. He is really hiding behind the fact he makes no difference in the voting decisions. On October 11 2012 20:56 Mementoss wrote: It bothers me that these 3 players have the most power in town ON Hopeless Da0 None of them used any votes officially, and all have 10 votes remaining. Coming down to the wire any one of them as scum could sway the results. On October 11 2012 21:00 Mementoss wrote: If they're scum and that's their plan then they're pretty stupid because they'd be put in the spotlight for doing that. Not all 3, but it is very possible for one of them to be scum, gaining 2 extra votes after the first round could prove to be a great advantage. On October 11 2012 23:59 Mementoss wrote: I will not make any deadlines. And hopeless you look fine with the way you unvoted. I still don't like that particular players will have more influence on the final lynch. On October 12 2012 20:50 Mementoss wrote: => this previous post is the climax !I have the least amount of votes left. sheit. Everyone else is "saving" there votes, or voting so late that it doesn't matter so they don't have to vote and have all the power at the end. On October 13 2012 22:52 Mementoss wrote: prp: 8 Remain ON: 8 Remain da0: 9 Remain Austin: 9 Remain This^^ this right here is horseshit. Apathetic voting up towards the last round is unacceptable. I think everyone should only be using 5 of there votes 3 of these players alone trump the rest of the players in the game. Sandroba doesn't even have anyvotes to defend himself while ON has 9. Actually, everyone should only be using 1 vote, and we can get some sort of real full out majority going where everyone is involved. For the people with 0 votes left. ##Mementoss vote "Player Name" and I will use one of my votes towards giving you a voice in this lynch. I have a feeling scum has WAY too much control right now. But there is a possibility its too late anyways, this method should give more information to where people are at in their thought process. On October 14 2012 03:09 Mementoss wrote: THIS is what bugs me, your not strongly scummy on either YET you have 9 votes left? HMMM, I guess you shoulda used your votes to get who you thought was scum to the finals. You don't even give a shit. | ||
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On October 15 2012 13:12 Djodref wrote: You didn't consider that town and mafia have usually both night decisions to give. There is certainly some town roles with some special powers to activate (or not) during the night. Using your power or not is a decision you have to make during the night. Putting Hope > Mementoss was a singular scum statement on posting times before day 2, not on overall posting behaviour. | ||
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On October 15 2012 16:28 Djodref wrote: Would you still follow the majority, even if they don't ask you to give the bomb to Hopeless ? I want to go for majority, so if it (the majority) doesn't want me to give it to Hopeless I won't. I want to have the potato in order to get a democratic argumentation going on for at least the time i have it. However I agree it was weak for me to say i will consider a majority excluding me. As a vanilla town I should put my vote as well on who i want to give the potato to. | ||
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On October 15 2012 19:58 kushm4sta wrote: I'm not going to put more efforts on scumhunting because to me this game is already solved. The only mystery left is why haven't scumteam GGed? Please start putting thoughts on would be your backup scum because you might be disappointed very soon and I would happy to see your opinion on mementoss. | ||
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On October 15 2012 20:55 kushm4sta wrote: No prpl that wasn't the deal. We gave you the potato because we think you are scum, not because we trust your opinion. You keep it until you convince us otherwise. The only person town can agree for you to give it to is daoud. If you give it to some town you are only prolonging this game because we will lynch the fuck out of you first chance we get. And can we do a refrendum after on shall I keep it while I sleep or pass it to mementoss? Please thrawn put 5min of your time looking at his filter instead of being narrowminded | ||
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On October 15 2012 21:00 thrawn2112 wrote: wat me look at kush filter? or prplhz filter? Sorry meant to talk to kush... | ||
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On October 15 2012 21:41 kushm4sta wrote: @prpl if you are town (you're not) the best thing you can do is hold the bomb and let yourself die. That is what majority town wants. If you don't die now we will have to waste next turn killing you anyway. Thats what I want to do and then you say I am scum. Because I am now misleading town i'd rather die and make my co-townies have a clearer view on real scums. | ||
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On October 15 2012 22:26 thrawn2112 wrote: In the case that da0 gets lynched and he flips green then this post may be of importance later: I don't like the way prplhz and memtoss have defended each other in the last couple pages Please indeed help me put light on Mementoss from the beginning of the day when all of you were sleeping and i has to catch back on 10 pages on thread. Narrow minded town Kush keeps trying to avoid scum hunting or back up scum hunting in case of finding flaws in Mementoss argumentation. | ||
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I am pretty sure that the scum team is mementoss and Kusk. | ||
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On October 15 2012 22:38 prplhz wrote: @EchelonTee Why do you want to give the potato to da0ud when you like his case? Do you think that a scum da0ud would try to sell out a scum Mementoss at this point? I was the first putting a case on Mementoss when everyone was focused on the round of 4 in Day 1. Showing how his voting behaviour was odd. I am not trying to sell out no one now. I have been trying to selling my read long time ago | ||
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- Get the majority of active people at this time to agree on who between prplz or mementoss should get the potato next. - If one hides, the other one automatically gets it. - If both hide, I will keep it and explode with it, while town will become a huge winner exposing them both. | ||
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On October 15 2012 23:29 Mementoss wrote: omg, that third point if your town is horrid. Just because you die that means your reads are correct? No it is both of you hiding who would make my reads correct. But I am sure you wont be hiding. | ||
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On October 15 2012 23:56 Hopeless1der wrote: The general consensus (which I agree with) is that one of da0ud or prplhz should be lynched. Personally, I think da0ud is more likely scum. The lynch mechanic itself has too much randomness to it for us to make a proper plan. At this point I have no intention of hiding. If I turn up with the potato, da0ud will be my first choice. Beyond that, I'd be looking for scummy things from other players. Things like MMT wanting us to ignore ON's flip to prove prplhz or da0ud being scum. They were both out in the first round. Other than the known information of scum flipping, it is extremely difficult to demonstrate scum motive for them when they are already safe from the lynch day1. The bulk of my read on da0ud revolves around his interaction with ON's situation. why woud you put me over prplhz or mementoss ? please explain me what part of my interaction with ON made up your read on me ? | ||
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On October 16 2012 00:18 kushm4sta wrote: Memetoss are you third party? trying to spread suspicion all over the place.. to me, to austin. After daoud and prplhz are gone if the game isn't over yet you are next. i thought the game was over ? are you gonna consider my case on mementoss? | ||
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On October 16 2012 08:29 kushm4sta wrote: lol i feel like such an idiot ![]() You know how you can feel even more idiot. I am confused now how Hiro did hide all day long when focused was mostly put on prplhz, me and Mementoss. I concede as well how you could be called scum yourself Kush, by taking advantage on being narrowminded until one twonie (me or prplhz) does blow up. | ||
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On October 16 2012 10:37 Mementoss wrote: at least I tried to get people off the tunnelling da0d and prplhz all day and wasting the day. I tried to get people to pass the potato around so that this wouldn't happen. I may not have had time to read through everything and flesh out some big thoughts. But I was trying to tell people to get off them and pass the potato. Without the potato passing people didn't have to do anything. we let hiro do nothing we let kush do nothing and "plan" the rest of the games lynches you'd think ET who had a townie status by almost all would do something other than lolz prplhz scum and post a picture god damn. The funny thing is in a mini its more than likely all these guys are scum. so anti town. oh well, lets learn from it and have a better day 2. I will look into hiro and kush specifcally before nights end. I doubt scum will want to kill me. But just incase. I agree and i did the same as you trying to avoid just being lynched because Kush said the game was over. I do maintain my view on you and the fact you are, Mementoss, my top scum read at the moment. There is now a lot of filters to look into because apart from Thrawn (95% confident) and propably Djodref (85% confident) all others could be scum. I put a special award to Kush and the do nothing and plan the rest of the game's lynches as Mem stated. On Day 2 except lynch prplz then Da0ud, no discussion, nothing added to the town discussion to find scums. End of Day 2, easy appology. Beginning of Night 2, lynch Da0ud then Mementoss, no discussion yet. But I am looking forward to your D3 explanation (I am not being sarcastic). | ||
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On October 16 2012 11:02 Djodref wrote: @Hiro Why were you holding onto the bomb at the beginning on day2 ? And why were you active in the thread only at that time ? I want you to post MORE. This is perfect non-sense hypothetical analysis. I did the same when saying scum people were not among the ones with a BYE in Day1. I am sure this was pure randomness. I have initially been considered scummy for that initial post. You should be considered less town for this last one ! | ||
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Please Hiro, explain yourself . Who are your scumreads currently ? | ||
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On October 16 2012 14:19 EchelonTee wrote: need to lynch da0ud. Very constructive. | ||
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However when I did re-read his filter, I found that he has been pretty consistent, with trying to defend Sand early on in the round 2 and 3 and trying to get ON to advance by putting votes on him in round 3 and 4. He did go afterwards for lynching prplhz but everyone did so. I just wish you would explain more on who are you scumreads and why ? I put you as my third best town read behind Kush and Djo. | ||
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In my opinion, you cannot be mafia because you have been so blindly going for a lynch on prplhz and me that it would obvious for others to lynch you when i get killed and you realize i am town. You actually did bring a lot to the thread until this potato thingy and I wish you can take the lead again in town side by side with Thrawn. Put you 4th townie, read due to your recent behaviour, but you were in my top 2 until being hands off and popping the champagne aready. | ||
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I need to re-read their filters and see how to rank them. My guts tend to go for Hopeless over ET over Austin. I'll put more thoughts on that later. Currently my scum to town scale goes as below : 1) Mementoss 2) Hopeless 3) ET 4) Austin 5) Kush 6) Hiro 7) Djo 8) Thrawn I won't put myself in this list because I know I am town and if i ever put me #9, people will say I am trying to manipulate something. I don't even think I deserve to be ranked #9 because I am nowhere near being an ideal town. I won't put any excuse on me being noob. I am trying to focus now on scum hunting or emphasizing on town tells in order to get a more constructive discussion. Objectively speaking, I would actually rank myself somewhere like #4.5 in between Austin and Kush. | ||
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On October 17 2012 04:46 austinmcc wrote: da0ud, I need to ask you about your prplhz read yesterday. In looking over the D1 votes, you said: But later in D2, you said: You don't mention how you went from not being able to see how prplhz could be scum to how you were pretty sure he was scum with mementoss. Why and when did you become convinced prplhz was scum? Catching up on the thread now.... Before reactin on N2's closure and D3, I would like to reply to you first austin. 1) I got suspicious on prplhz : I do maintain that I got suspicious on prplhz and kush and austin. But there was not much against any of them, and actually my read was good when I said he changed Sand's fate. True, austin last 3 votes where supposed to go through as well but he pulled the trigger first in saving him. 2) Read him as scum afterwards : I did follow the lead of too many people afterwards bullying prplhz and I changed my mind too quickly. On top of that they made me change my mind on thinking he actually saved Sand first. I did read him as hiding his move before austin saves Sand himself. 3) Emphasizing of the scum read : His way of handling the potato situation was odd. He wanted to keep the potato (same as me) but for different reason. Nothing really constructive came out off his defense. He just wanted to keep it until he believed it would blow up and give it to ET. Not very town attitude to play it selfish like that. I wanted to have the potato as well but for different reasons. I felt doomed and wanted to launch some kind of regular lynching process on who majority wanted me to give the potato too. I thought as well the discussion was very poor at the time with many people taking a break and just thinking of lynching myself and prplhz. I thought it was good to commit suicide worst case, in order to force town to stop sleeping and focus on scum hunting again. | ||
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Not too sure actually what to think about that. I was actually pretty sure Thrawn would get killed, as he has been the most consistent at behaving town. On top of that he is a good player (in my modest opinion) so I thought it would have been a big hit to us in fighting for who are the real scumies left. I was not too sure where to put ET himself, but i was more on the slightly more scummy than town read. I came back in the office this morning with the thread open on his filter. I was starting to read it yesterday but didn't manage to find time to finish it before end of N2. I will finish it today and see if any clues on who could actually have stabbed him in the back. | ||
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On October 17 2012 12:18 Hopeless1der wrote: Have you read da0ud's filter? Or understood the Day 1 lynch mechanics? Austin pulls 3 SEQUENTIAL posts out of da0ud's filter (page 2). Guess he just left out the scummy bits. The level of flipflopping is unbelievable. I'll refrain from the rest of his filter for now. Lets start with ONE post above where austin did: -> da0ud wanted ON. Me and Djodref can't both be scum. Cool. FIVE MINUTES LATER (Austin's "defense" started here) EchelonTee votebombs at the last possible minute. So far so good, he's maintained his stance that he wanted ON and is happy I didn't get advanced. Defending ET...buddying townie? (WIFOM) Is this him being sad/upset? He's panicing now that things went awry. END AUSTIN'S DEFENSE Wait...+ Show Spoiler + Sandroba #1 to die. And I'm super duper town? Yeah right...(I am town...just not at the level he's blindly agreeing) ON and Sandroba cannot both be scum. Based on what he's said so far, I'm 99% town and sand is 99% scum. (or is my reading comprehension failing me?) Somehow that 99% sandroba scum read is no longer valid because...I disappeared? We KNOW sandroba flipped town and OriginalName flipped scum. Does this not strike you as a strange change of heart based on the past series of quotes? This entire series of quotes occured over less than a half hour. Moral of the story? Austin's defense of da0ud can suck it. Kill me first if you need to, I'll gladly trade 1-1. Wasn't I correct when I said I am 99% sure both Sand and ON are not scum together ? I didn't know which one to choose but at that time i went more for Sand for his original scum read on me when I know I am not and the fact the ON was more a lurking choice. Guess what Sand could not have been killed on N1 but I am sure my statement made mafia kill him cause Sand would have RULED town BIG TIME. | ||
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On October 17 2012 12:48 Hopeless1der wrote: da0ud, you were correct, but when it was me vs sandroba, you were all but ready to pull the trigger on sandroba, at least that's how I interpret this quote: When the votes were finalized and it changed to ON vs sandroba: You were no longer so certain. I don't get how you could have such a drastic change in scumreads as town or lose your conviction to kill sandroba just because his opponent changed. I really could have just posted these two quotes as my counter to austin's defense of you. How to be sure on a scumread when only 75% of day1 has passed. I went with my first thoughts and happily stated facts that at least I was sure were correct. | ||
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On October 17 2012 13:10 kushm4sta wrote: Are we playing the same game?? Why is thrawn so town? Because he doesn't act retardedly? That's enough to make you town now? Read his filter. He has contributed nothing. His only case was a bad one on SANDROBA, confirmed town, which he went back on extremely easily. Frankly I am baffled by this thrawn dickride. I want you to explain. If you do not explain adequately I will support your lynch. gogo. Keep in mind this: the people who seem the scummiest probably aren't scum. That is because they don't care about stopping themselves from looking scummy. They are just going to act however they want to act. Scum, however, will go out of their way to act town. @daoud explain your thrawn dickride You are right I think I am not really playing the same game. More like the paranoid game indeed. lol. Don't worry there is no language barrier, it is pretty much me being dumb and that's it. I have been working in HK for 5 yrs now mostly with native english speaking people (including Aussies and Kiwis). So I don't want you to put my stupidity in me not understanding what is happening. I am probably too lazy and busy in the morning too really read very carefully and take notes. I usually catch back on the thread in the morning when there is action at work. I try to do it as fast as possible otherwise there is no one to actually share views with me. I should read slower and more carefuly. But whatever... Thank to you, Kush, and thrawn himself to make me read entirely his filter. And there is not much in there. Thrawn you go from my first town read to second scum read. Here are the three main reasons : 1) Your votes in Day1 went for prplhz (town), Sand twice (town), Djo (very town-looking, again I will re-read his filter, but he makes very good cases). He initially votes Sand in the finals and when he sees suspicions onto ON he unvotes then changes to ON. 2) this post : On October 14 2012 11:06 thrawn2112 wrote: guys hurry up with the night actions I'm eager to learn about the new lynch mechanics Too naive, almost similar to mine where i imply the last one to act was scum. Here basically he implies I have nothing to do, or not much talking to do with my scum team, so hurry up => VERY VERY SCUMMY 3) this other post : On October 16 2012 21:11 thrawn2112 wrote: no I haven't (unless you count sk) so I have no idea. I'd either ask my mafia bros for advice the entire time or I'd just tell them to bus the shit out of me D1. or I might bus the shit out of them the whole game. When looking at action, no one votes on him so didn't ask his mates to bus the sh!t out of him. Did not bus the sh!t out of them either cause mostly accused or voted townies. Hence is actions are the opposite of what he PRETENDS he would do if he were scum. This is too big to be true. There is more to say but i will focus on others as well. Thanks Kush for waking me up, you going down my ladder I started already in Day2. | ||
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1) Mementoss 2) Thrawn 3) Hopeless 4) Austin 5) Hiro 6) Kush 7) Djo 8) Da0ud | ||
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1) Thrawn 2) Hopeless 3) Mementoss 4) Austin 5) Hiro 6) Djo 7) Kush 8) Da0ud | ||
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In point 2) I don't assume you are VT, you assume your actions were quick, while actually mafia people would actually need some time to discuss who they want to kill. 3) as you say in this game we can turn every single post in a perfect town read to a perfect scum read, depending on the initial state of mind. You might turn green, I might turn red. Or we might be wasting our efforts if you are green as well. I could say lynch me I don't care I will be able to play a game with newbies, but I don't want to give up now, even if it would probably be more beneficial to me. | ||
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As you say depending on how you want to read a post you can make it say anything you want. I will try to re-read the all thread knowing ON is scum and Sand, prplhz and ET are towns. My point 1) against you is not valid either cause if i follow my logic, I am pretty scum as well cause voted for Djo (which i consider town) and Sand (9 times....) pretty bad. | ||
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I realized the less I talk the better. From what I currently see in the voting thread I am on top of the lynching list (with Austin, Kush, and my votes missing). I am trying to make up my mind for this round by omitting who actually bullies me because I am an easy target for a town or a scum person. I am focusing more on other interactions like : Austin vs Mementoss, Kush vs Thrawn. I am letting Djodref handle my defense. Will consider him as my coach (same as he says he had in another game). I want to understand if it actually makes more sense for town Djo to defend misunderstood town Da0ud or scum Djo to defend town Da0ud. 1) Djo is town : - if I get mislynched, he will get a lot of town credit and will be a potential target for the NK. However this will bring a lot of indications on other people's roles when re-reading the entire thread with two more known facts : Da0ud = town, Djo = town - if I don't get lynched, we will be able to get more pieces of info depending on the role of who actually gets lynched. 2) Djo is scum: - if I get mislynched, he will get a lot of town credit, he won't be killed overnight and this will be suspicious. Looks like a smart move, but he will have to put on a strong defense in D4 to save himself and even more depending on who gets killed instead of him overnight. - if I don't get lynched, it might be a good move as well to keep me arround, because I will be an easy target to mislynch again in D4. As a conclusion, I am not too sure about Djo's move here. I want to trust him as of now though. | ||
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It was just making sense for me to rank people versus the others. I have been reading more than talking, and not putting someone at the top of my scale for telling me i am dumb, bad and scum (sorry Thrawn in particular) - or you would all have been number one, Djo number 7, me number 8. After all, I still want to put Mementoss on the top of my scale, for his changes of mind, votes, as I stated in D2. I want to push Austin number two currently because he is the one that has the most chances of being lynched instead of me, and I know I should not be killed. Not too sure who will be 3 and 4 between Hopeless, Hiro/VE. Hiro/VE has not been too very active, I could not find a lot of scumhunting, but has been decently consistent. so I will put Hopeless over Hiro. Kush and Thrawn will occupy the ranks 6 and 5. They do bring a lot to the discussion and are the ones that make me feel the most how useless I can be sometimes. Scum people would not do that, it would not be beneficial because me behaving badly does create interference which is good for the scum team. Djo ranked 7, he has made good cases, and did help the town to start changing their mind about me. 1) Mementoss 2) Ausin 3) Hopeless 4) Hiro 5) Thrawn 6) Kush 7) Djo 8) Da0ud | ||
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I am wondering if you coming 10min before the deadline in order to try to save Austin is not a proof of you being scum. It leaves us not enough time to change drastically the destiny of Austin. This gives you town credit. However, if you don't get NKed now for being the only one to push Austin out of a mislynch, you will look even scummier to me. I am trying to understand if it would make sense for the scum team not to kill you overnight if you were town. | ||
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What I said is totally in line with the paragraph of Djo's message. On October 19 2012 14:12 Djodref wrote: That's why we need absolutely to lynch one mafia member tomorrow. On the opposite, mafia has to kill the players with the most town cred (provided they are not mafia themselves) to increase their chances to lead to a mislynch. Mafia would normally target one of the towniest people in order to promote a mislynch. Yes my post could be interpreted as scummy, but you telling that makes me even more thing you are playing a double game. I know my alignment and it sounds pretty odd to me for a town person to scream out loud to save someone at the last moment and remind it 10min after the lynch. Why not pushing to save him instead with a structured case like Djodref did with me, way before the end of the day ? I was on the top of the lynch ladder but Djo's case made me slowly but surely go down. | ||
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Sorry I put on the table at the beginning of N3 that you were the only perfect kill for the scum team. The good thing about it is that you wrote a very detailed and convincing pre-death post. | ||
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As everyone I wonder how did VE get a pass today. If there was a blue role protecting him it would have claimed it by now. I.don't believe either that randomly VE got immunity. Makes no sense at this critical point of the game. I can only see the scum team doing this. However as some stated even if we mislynch we might have a shot tomorrow if there is a funny D5 Lynch theme. In that case I will go all in on the non random part of the lych on VE. | ||
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I do concede on his statement that Hopeless is way townier than scummy. Kush as opposed to thrawn very often has gone all in on some reads (like me/prplhz D2, etc) before realizing he was so very wrong when mislynch did happen. This could be considered scummy but actually he went with his town reads and conceded his mistakes. On thrawn I have to go with Mementoss pre death case. His reads, decisions, changes of mind seem pretty much as incoherent as mine. But thrawn is nowhere near being a newbie like me who can be manipulated. He posts a lot to create content confusion, etc. I am being incoherent as well keep changing my mind. But I am on different time zone so this is hard for me sometimes to be part of the action and as a newbie I am an easy target to confuse. One thing I have been coherent is me following djodref. If he is town as I mostly expect we will have a shot today at focusing on the right kill. | ||
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Now he is present and has a laptop with him. Was that a scum trying to hide for 24h to lower attention on him who cannot do that anymore because he is the obvious lynch? | ||
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As the friend vote is the only public information and it can be used on someone to disrupt the normal lynch process (the foe vote), it is anti town not to use it in a fair way so that everyone gets one. The only solution cause no one can target ve is to friend oirselves. ##Vote friend Da0ud | ||
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On October 20 2012 12:14 Djodref wrote: Seriously guys, this is a perfect example why I think daoud is town. I admit that playing the newbie could be a strategy to survive but there is a limit to what you could be able to forge... I am not saying that this will happen. I am saying that sating VE cannot be lynched is somehow wrong. He could if mafia was really fuking it up... | ||
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I would like to say djo and get him to have an extra friend vote. | ||
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On October 21 2012 19:20 Djodref wrote: Are you going to be around tonight daoud ? What about deadline also ? I am arround now (tonite for me). What time is deadline tomorrow? I will try to make it in case of a big change of direction in who we decide to votw for. | ||
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On October 21 2012 19:21 kushm4sta wrote: stfu about friend votes. put them on yourself and forget about them. Them we all vote same person. I agree with you but scumVE needs to vote friend as well and he cannot vote himself cause he cannot be targeted. Anyway if he friends who we decide to lynch that will be too obvious he tries to protect his mate. | ||
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On October 21 2012 21:35 kushm4sta wrote: 1der: after we kill thrawn, the last mafia will nk djodref. People left: daoud, you,VE,me. Who do you think is scummiest out od those people right now? So you will foe Thrawn ? | ||
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On October 21 2012 21:28 kushm4sta wrote: This is my latest theory on the pardoner: thrawn is scum pardoner. He can't pardon himself though. So.last night he pardoned the scummiest looking town to fuck with our heads. I thought of that, but he can as well pardon his fellow mafia mate, this would not change anything, with less chance of us catching at mafia person on mylo | ||
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For my first game it was a really fun one. I felt a bit disoriented but I guess it is part of the learning curve. | ||
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