EPTOn October 13 2012 12:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
do0ud wtf are you talking about
who are you responding to
do0ud wtf are you talking about
who are you responding to
Looks pretty obvious I was talking to austin...
Looney Lynching Mini Mafia - Page 3
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
Looks pretty obvious I was talking to austin... | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
One first thing on my vote against San is at the time as default choice between two people I found scummy. I found more content on sand than on the lurker ON. And at the time I put my votes there was already 11 votes on san. I was following the crowd. Overnight the defense of Sand got pretty intense and sure would I have shifted my votes towards ON, not that it would have made a difference anyway. Even if it is not confirmed I am fairly sure Sand is town cause he put his votes on ON to go to the final which would not make sense for a scum to push another scum to face him in finals. At this stage I am pretty sure as well mementoss is scum. I already put it as second scum read from the round of 4 but now put him as top read. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 14 2012 16:51 thrawn2112 wrote: yeah the bolded part just screams noob mafia Ok you voted for sandroba because: "One first thing on my vote against San is at the time as default choice between two people I found scummy." but here are the most recent cases of you talking about either of them: So please show me where you found ON scummy. In fact it seems like you weren't "thinking" ON was scum... your reason for voting him was always policy related: Oh and I'm not really convinced about memtoss.... I don't buy that he was bussing ON. His votes for ON came at a time when a bus would have been extremely stupid or extremely clever and I doubt he's capable of either. I think he was the first person to actually vote ON. Maybe a scum memtoss would have figured that sand is getting lynched no matter what but I doubt he'd have taken that risk. True Thrawn, if found them both scummy but I knew (however not 100% guaranteed) they were not both scummy. They could even have both been town. I had to go for the one I felt was the scummiest. As you said ON was more scummy from his lurking attitude, hence I did not have all that much against him. At the time I voted, San sounded the scummiest to me especially after his "i dont give a sh!t post, I am not gonna defend myself", while town should in my opinion try everything to avoid a mislynch. On October 13 2012 16:00 sandroba wrote: I'm not going to fight against this lynch. This is simply too stupid to fight over and I don't feel like it. If you people stopped one second to look at this thread you would come to realise that is simply no way I'm scum purely based on how this situation came to be. Also there is no case against me. I refuse to defend myself against the ignorant uninformed opinion of a bunch of riotters. This is no way to play mafia. You have to look at the intricacies and not follow the mob rule that is usually driven by scum. I leave you sheep to your fate. My reads so far is that ET austin hiro and kush are town. I honestly don't know anymore about ON cuz I would expect him to try to at least keep apearances as scum. This djodref is either very dumb or scum. You would never as town (and inteligent) feel that a person that is standing up to you against the majority trying to lynch would be scum. Prpl and mementos are prob scum. If you go to the thread arround that time, you will see that Sand doesnt send any other message to defend himself until my vote. On October 13 2012 22:07 da0ud wrote: sandroba x9 I find it a bit easy a day ( = round) ago to say, I am pretty sure Da0ud is town cause he sounds like noob town. And then shift to he is too noob to be a good mafia so this is obvious now he is scummy. It would be 100% dumb for mafia people not to be around at deadline and not to try to hide their intentions while voting ON when he knows his fate is doomed. I would look for scum people within the ones here around deadline and trying to put focus on Sandrosa... Only kush, austin and prplhz were here. I cannot see how prplhz could be scum because he is the one who actually changed the fate of Sand. Then we have austin putting extra 3 useless votes on ON... Furthermore, I was the first one to look at patterns and i would personally go as well for someone who put votes on ON at a time it did not matter at all (or switching votes at that moment). I can see Mementoss for example putting votes on ON when San was leading 20-0. What about Djodref dumping all his votes on round of 4 on Hopeless, was it maybe at the time an attempt to avoid facing ON in the finals ?? Could be a nice way as well not have suspicions put on him after the final round of votes... | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 14 2012 21:51 kushm4sta wrote: This is first time scum? Yeah math can be an indication of scum wanting to appear active, but keep in mind this was an explanation that I requested. I don't think first time scum would try to fake this level of newbie paranoia. Look how eager he is to interact. As scum I would think he'd be more afraid. Haha. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
If the majority wants me to get lynched, they i will have to go with it. If so, just give me the potato and i will keep it until the majority asks me to pass it. If I blow up, then you will see I was town. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 12:32 thrawn2112 wrote: Who would you pass it to if we agreed that you don't have to hold it? I would pass it to Mementoss or Hopeless, as they were the last two ones to participate in the chat during the night. We were told that as soon as everyone was done with the night actions, the night would be over. The order of people posting overnight was : 1) Thrawn 2) Prplz 3) Sand 4) Austin 5) Kush 6) ET 7) Hiro 8) Djo 9) Da0ud 10) Mem 11) Hopeless1 Mem with two posts only one at 11pm (HK time) then the last one before day 2 at 2:11am (a bit too close the Day2 official post) Hopeless first and only post at 1:50am and Day 2 starts at 2.14am. So i will put Hopeless > Mementoss as i always thought Mem was scum, but Hopeless was too me the limiting factor of the night decisions to me. I will hence KEEP the potato until you ask me to pass it to where the majority (let say 5, i wont include myself) decides. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 12:51 Djodref wrote: @prplhz Do you have any intent to pass the bomb to me ? I would like to burn my hide but I don't want to really hide... @daoud If you really are town, doing it this way would not help us find the scum. They would just go on holidays and wait for you to blow up ^^ The only information we would gather at the end is that you were town (but are you?). If you play the potato game, we may have more discussion and it is going to help us to find the remaining mafia players. On top of that, nobody can make sure that you are going to be lynched today. If you want to hold the potato until you explode, it's your choice, but I don't think it is a townie decision. It looks more like a caught scum behavior (retaining information for his buddies). 1) If I were scum, it is scumhunting to keep the potato. 2) I have given my top choices to who i would give the potato, if i were to decide. 3) I would not want to hold the patato, i said I will hold it until majority decides who they want me to give to. To me this is a townie attitude. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 13:22 Djodref wrote: No I'm pretty sure he didn't know about the blues. He's a real total newbie... @daoud If the majority is wrong about you, you have to prove them wrong. If you are really town, you shouldn't hold onto the potato for these reasons:
That's why I see you wanting to keep the potato as a scum move.
| ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
| ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
1) My first scum read on him was by looking at the way he could have tried to hide his action by being the one voting on the most people after round one and two. 4 different people including Sand who was town (two votes) and kush as well who is the one is consider the towniest currently. He has been changing his attitude : voting kush in the first round and then not following it by voting sand in second round. Or voting Djo in first round and then switching it up by going for ET in round two. 2) in the finals he did probably hide his votes by putting them on ON when San was leading 20-0. Changing his mind later on and putting votes on Sand when ON was catching up would have looked too very odd. 3) He has never been attacking directly ON, kind of defending him on posts and saying San is scummier. On October 11 2012 02:24 Mementoss wrote: 1. Mementoss: Town 2. OriginalName: Has been active after the game has started and chose not to participate in any discussion. Other than that nothing. Seems pretty scummy. Already ahead by 3 votes, I have no reason to use a vote on him right now. On October 12 2012 04:37 Mementoss wrote: 2. OriginalName Lurking pretty hard as well. Only has one post with content so far. But it brings up some pretty decent points. Still he needs more activity into the game, looking forward to what his thoughts are on the other players/matchups. Null. Not voting either. 3. Sandropa: I don't like his posting at all this game. As others have said, most of his posting has been here are my thoughts and gives no reasoning. ET defends him with his meta in this statement: "Sandroba is one of those super strong town players who is comparatively abysmal as a mafia player. When he's mafia, his lack of effort and interest becomes abundantly clear very quickly, sort of like Palmar but even moreso, IMO. Therefore, when he plays mafia I find that he runs active disruption to try and make as much chaos as possible until he inevitably gets shot/lynched. " Which I don't know how ET thinks hes following this, is he reading the same game I am? I think if anything he looks like mafia meta this game, lack of effort and interest seem prevelant in this game, and no attempt to find any scum at all. I would really like him to go through and put some pressure on him to persue some reads. Looks scummy to me. 2 votes. On October 13 2012 22:53 Mementoss wrote: Also ET I know you explained it but its still fucking weird that you LAST MINUTE dropped all your votes on ON, after expecting him for a modkill, not having a read on him. And having a scum read on hopeless all of the first 2 cycles, you save him last minute. Not sure which way I will be voting today yet. On October 14 2012 00:31 Mementoss wrote: I will be putting all my votes on ON unless he returns then Sounds like a defaults choice, when ON is afk and lead 20-0. 4) All of mementoss argumentation is otherwise based on saying he is town because he used his votes earlier, he am concerned some people kept some votes and are powerful in the finals. Good way to hide the fact he actually doesn't affect anything in the vote. He is really hiding behind the fact he makes no difference in the voting decisions. On October 11 2012 20:56 Mementoss wrote: It bothers me that these 3 players have the most power in town ON Hopeless Da0 None of them used any votes officially, and all have 10 votes remaining. Coming down to the wire any one of them as scum could sway the results. On October 11 2012 21:00 Mementoss wrote: If they're scum and that's their plan then they're pretty stupid because they'd be put in the spotlight for doing that. Not all 3, but it is very possible for one of them to be scum, gaining 2 extra votes after the first round could prove to be a great advantage. On October 11 2012 23:59 Mementoss wrote: I will not make any deadlines. And hopeless you look fine with the way you unvoted. I still don't like that particular players will have more influence on the final lynch. On October 12 2012 20:50 Mementoss wrote: => this previous post is the climax !I have the least amount of votes left. sheit. Everyone else is "saving" there votes, or voting so late that it doesn't matter so they don't have to vote and have all the power at the end. On October 13 2012 22:52 Mementoss wrote: prp: 8 Remain ON: 8 Remain da0: 9 Remain Austin: 9 Remain This^^ this right here is horseshit. Apathetic voting up towards the last round is unacceptable. I think everyone should only be using 5 of there votes 3 of these players alone trump the rest of the players in the game. Sandroba doesn't even have anyvotes to defend himself while ON has 9. Actually, everyone should only be using 1 vote, and we can get some sort of real full out majority going where everyone is involved. For the people with 0 votes left. ##Mementoss vote "Player Name" and I will use one of my votes towards giving you a voice in this lynch. I have a feeling scum has WAY too much control right now. But there is a possibility its too late anyways, this method should give more information to where people are at in their thought process. On October 14 2012 03:09 Mementoss wrote: THIS is what bugs me, your not strongly scummy on either YET you have 9 votes left? HMMM, I guess you shoulda used your votes to get who you thought was scum to the finals. You don't even give a shit. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 13:12 Djodref wrote: You didn't consider that town and mafia have usually both night decisions to give. There is certainly some town roles with some special powers to activate (or not) during the night. Using your power or not is a decision you have to make during the night. Putting Hope > Mementoss was a singular scum statement on posting times before day 2, not on overall posting behaviour. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 16:28 Djodref wrote: Would you still follow the majority, even if they don't ask you to give the bomb to Hopeless ? I want to go for majority, so if it (the majority) doesn't want me to give it to Hopeless I won't. I want to have the potato in order to get a democratic argumentation going on for at least the time i have it. However I agree it was weak for me to say i will consider a majority excluding me. As a vanilla town I should put my vote as well on who i want to give the potato to. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 19:58 kushm4sta wrote: I'm not going to put more efforts on scumhunting because to me this game is already solved. The only mystery left is why haven't scumteam GGed? Please start putting thoughts on would be your backup scum because you might be disappointed very soon and I would happy to see your opinion on mementoss. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 20:55 kushm4sta wrote: No prpl that wasn't the deal. We gave you the potato because we think you are scum, not because we trust your opinion. You keep it until you convince us otherwise. The only person town can agree for you to give it to is daoud. If you give it to some town you are only prolonging this game because we will lynch the fuck out of you first chance we get. And can we do a refrendum after on shall I keep it while I sleep or pass it to mementoss? Please thrawn put 5min of your time looking at his filter instead of being narrowminded | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 21:00 thrawn2112 wrote: wat me look at kush filter? or prplhz filter? Sorry meant to talk to kush... | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 21:41 kushm4sta wrote: @prpl if you are town (you're not) the best thing you can do is hold the bomb and let yourself die. That is what majority town wants. If you don't die now we will have to waste next turn killing you anyway. Thats what I want to do and then you say I am scum. Because I am now misleading town i'd rather die and make my co-townies have a clearer view on real scums. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 22:26 thrawn2112 wrote: In the case that da0 gets lynched and he flips green then this post may be of importance later: I don't like the way prplhz and memtoss have defended each other in the last couple pages Please indeed help me put light on Mementoss from the beginning of the day when all of you were sleeping and i has to catch back on 10 pages on thread. Narrow minded town Kush keeps trying to avoid scum hunting or back up scum hunting in case of finding flaws in Mementoss argumentation. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
I am pretty sure that the scum team is mementoss and Kusk. | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
Just kush is getting on my nerves right now | ||
|
da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 15 2012 22:38 prplhz wrote: @EchelonTee Why do you want to give the potato to da0ud when you like his case? Do you think that a scum da0ud would try to sell out a scum Mementoss at this point? I was the first putting a case on Mementoss when everyone was focused on the round of 4 in Day 1. Showing how his voting behaviour was odd. I am not trying to sell out no one now. I have been trying to selling my read long time ago | ||
| ||
