On October 17 2012 07:36 Mementoss wrote:
fuck im not going to have enough time to do hiro and kush
fuck im not going to have enough time to do hiro and kush
haha if mmt thinks you are scum you are almost definitely town.
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On October 17 2012 07:36 Mementoss wrote: fuck im not going to have enough time to do hiro and kush haha if mmt thinks you are scum you are almost definitely town. | ||
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first let me day I should not die. Either Austin or ET should die and if they don't something is very wrong. I read straight through about half the thread and I feel confident in my current scumreads. THRAWN Read this scum's filter. He is like one of those annoying little dogs that nips at people's heels. He has very little content of his own. Mostly what he does is wait for someone to say something kind of off then go Omg why you say that? DJODREF His scumstrat= make big posts, people will be impressed and think you are town. Look past the length and you will see his scumminess. ET That last minute ON vote ro4, do not trust that shit. Remember he is the one who brought it to everyone's attention originally. Scum may have known ON was getting modkilled and decided to take the townie points from leading the lynch instead. Also note how he had no points to spend either way ro2. He used more votes than necessary ro4 so he would not have to ve accountable for his vote ro2. His activity has been real low except for when attacked. Then he turns super sayain. He never even commented on sandroba until AFTER the lynch during the ro2. Kush out. | ||
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On October 17 2012 07:51 Mementoss wrote: Kush's day 1 play seemed townie, but his day 2 play had scum motivation all over it. Shutting down discussion while being active in the thread, and planning the lynch for the next day. Also making an anti-town potato plan. Not proud of my d2 lol. But you have to see it from my perspective. I just wanted those bitches lynched any way possible. | ||
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2) Djodref 3) austinmcc 4) Hopeless1der 5) da0ud 6) Hiropro 7) Mementoss 8) Kush | ||
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On October 17 2012 08:48 thrawn2112 wrote: kush why is hiro so town to you? Read his filter and tell me that's not town. He's really open with his intentions and his current state of mind. He is very focused on finding scum. He pursues leads he believes in. His posts just seem really honest and sincere. | ||
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ET was my second guess but I was definitely expecting it to be Austin. There are 2 possibilities I can come up with. 1. Austin is scum. 2. They were trying to protect scum daoud, since Austin doesn't think he's scum and ET does. 3. Wifom version of #3, in which daoud is town, but they are trying to make us think they are protecting daoud so we lynch town daoud tomorrow. Actually 1 and 3 seem the most plausible to me. | ||
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On October 17 2012 09:16 austinmcc wrote: Other options include worries about a medic, although apparently I don't look super duper town, blue-sniping on ET. I think due to lynch craziness there are no power roles. No one got rbed or anything right? | ||
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memetoss you are town mostly because I actually read the thread from the beginning and you seemed over quite town. I think people are getting caught up on certain moves you made and not looking at the big picture. | ||
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On October 17 2012 10:52 austinmcc wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2012 09:21 kushm4sta wrote: Show nested quote + On October 17 2012 09:16 austinmcc wrote: Other options include worries about a medic, although apparently I don't look super duper town, blue-sniping on ET. I think due to lynch craziness there are no power roles. No one got rbed or anything right? One reason I'm thinking power roles of some sort exist: On October 13 2012 23:57 kitaman27 wrote: In the interest of moving things along due to the extended day one cycle, you may submit night actions early if you wish. When I have received all night actions, the night cycle will end.You still have a maximum of 24 hours to send them in after the day one lynch is decided. night actionS. When I have received all night actionS On October 14 2012 11:01 JingleHell wrote: It is now night. You have 24 hours to get your night actions submitted to myself and Kitaman. If they're all submitted early, as Kita stated before, the following Day post may come early. night actionS. If they're ALL submitted early. We have not seen rb claims. We have not seen medic protects. However, we've only seen 1 KP per night, and the N1 posts make pretty clear that there were multiple actions to be received. Moreover, Sandroba made it to R4 in D1. That means he didn't look uber-town. Yet scum chose to kill him. Why? He's been known to be a dangerous scumhunter. If scum killing him was the only action, I would expect it to happen EARLY. He was killed because they were afraid to let him live, and killing him early in the night would be better than giving him time to get some night thoughts out. So the fact that night didn't end almost immediately means that scum killing sandroba was probably not the only action that needed to come in. HUH? to this whole post. Who gives a shit if there is an S on "night actions"? What is kitaman gonna say? Send your night action? I don't think we can get any information about power roles from stuff mods said. So sandroba is a dangerous scumhunter so the kill should have happened quickly? Not necessarily. Like you say he wasn't hands down the best nk. I think we should assume there are no power roles until we see evidence of one. | ||
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On October 14 2012 12:00 austinmcc wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hey! Here's way more text than you want to read about MEMENTOSS! I don't know when night ends, so I want to get thoughts out asap though. We should all be doing some of this. Read on mementoss is wonky, because his early play felt very towny. He was the first person to do a big "Here's what I think about each matchup" post. I liked that, that someone would do that and kind of force more people to do so. Town justification: More info into thread, explain self, be transparent Scum justification: Hide votes in 1-2 matchups by speaking about ALL matchups? Overcompensating and trying to look townie by being open? Overall I was leaning townie on him for that stuff. His play in the later rounds feels different from that openness. Whereas in those matchup posts he's giving his thoughts on everyone, he then stopped doing so. To the extent we have his thoughts recently, it's basically just that holding votes is scummy, having lots of votes is scummy. On October 13 2012 22:52 Mementoss wrote: Actually, everyone should only be using 1 vote, and we can get some sort of real full out majority going where everyone is involved. Knowing that ON was scum, this means he's probably got...1-3 scumbuddies, likely only 2. If everyone only uses 1 vote, 2 players provide a decent swing. If one player was low on votes (had 1 or 0 left), this helps them take control over the lynch. On October 13 2012 22:52 Mementoss wrote: Also willing to give away votes. But the reason he's giving them away is one I don't like. If people saving their votes is scummy because they want to control the lynch, then people who blew votes early to control lynches should also be scummy under mementoss's reasoning. Yet he wants to give those people votes. Also, if he were town, wouldn't he be worried about giving away votes to just anyone? I was.For the people with 0 votes left. ##Mementoss vote "Player Name" and I will use one of my votes towards giving you a voice in this lynch. I have a feeling scum has WAY too much control right now. But there is a possibility its too late anyways, this method should give more information to where people are at in their thought process. CHECK DIS OUT RIGHT HERE On October 13 2012 22:53 Mementoss wrote: Also ET I know you explained it but its still fucking weird that you LAST MINUTE dropped all your votes on ON, after expecting him for a modkill, not having a read on him. And having a scum read on hopeless all of the first 2 cycles, you save him last minute. Not sure which way I will be voting today yet. ET DOES look good for pushing ON through. You know who was displeased that ET votebombed last minute and pushed ON through? Mementoss. Read that again. What alignment is most likely to be very perturbed that someone came in and dropped votes on ON, when ON was safe from lynch and hopeless1der was moving on? One of those things that's always nice to look at is where something sudden happens that can throw scum off their game/plans. ET voting ON RIGHT at deadline was one such moment, and mementoss reacted hard. However, today Mementoss voted ON. Do you guys know why!? On October 14 2012 00:31 Mementoss wrote: I will be putting all my votes on ON unless he returns then On October 14 2012 00:46 Mementoss wrote: He's voting ON because...he's a bit scummy on Sandroba, but wants to lynch ON who is lurking. His prior thoughts on ON - Show nested quote + On October 14 2012 00:32 austinmcc wrote: On October 14 2012 00:31 Mementoss wrote: I will be putting all my votes on ON unless he returns then Because of sandroba's comments? no because no one would co-operate anyways, and although I think sandroba's play has been scummy im not super sure. But if he flips town then we have ON who refuses to post or do anything, and its gunna be a bad time. Overall, I guess im happy with either lynch, lynching someone I have a bit of a scum read on, or lynching a complete lurker. On October 12 2012 04:37 Mementoss wrote: OriginalName Lurking pretty hard as well. Only has one post with content so far. But it brings up some pretty decent points. Still he needs more activity into the game, looking forward to what his thoughts are on the other players/matchups. Null. Not voting either. ON lurking but null. ON's only post had decent points. Weird phrasing. "Needs more activity" "looking forward to what his thoughts are on the other players/matchups." That "looking forward" to language sticks out as just funky. He's never been scummy on ON. He's scummy on Sandroba. But he's voting ON. (Yes, it's not scummy to vote scum, but i'm having trouble seeing why he did so) Then there are just a variety of questions that I was asking him which he didn't answer. Doesn't answer second question at all - + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2012 22:43 Mementoss wrote: Show nested quote + On October 13 2012 10:24 austinmcc wrote: Mementoss. Pretend for a moment that you're Mementoss this game. (Or, if you don't have to pretend, please let us know). You and your hypothetical scumbuddies are hanging out in QT, discussing how to play out the matchups and how you want to vote and do scummy stuff and whatnot. The following questions come up, as to how each of you wants to do things. How do you respond? Do you guys make sure to sometimes be on opposite sides of a matchup? Or do you not care if 2 scum players vote together the entire way through D1? Say in round 1 or round 2 there's a matchup that you want to influence, one of your scumbuddies is neck and neck with a townie. Do you just vote that matchup? Or do you vote that matchup + 1 or 2 that you don't care about, in order to hide the vote you actually want to make in with some that don't make a difference to you? Is there any particular player you think is a likely D1 mislynch, just looking at player list and like...the first couple pages of the game. If so, who? ET, I'd like to see your answers to those questions as well. You had some setup talk at the beginning that I liked, but I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about the setup from the perspective of you playing as ET. Okay let me pretend to be mementoss. 1. Don't care. 2. Vote the people acting scummiest in the thread. 3. ON is a likely mislynch for lurking, and kush is a likely mislynch for his meta. (if they are town that is) aka its not hard for scum to put them through without real reasoning I don't understand the purpose of this question though. lol. Doesn't explain a variety of things - + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2012 23:57 Mementoss wrote: Show nested quote + On October 13 2012 23:21 austinmcc wrote: On October 13 2012 22:52 Mementoss wrote: Why is apathetic voting horseshit? Is horseshit just horseshit, or do you find it to come from a town or scum horse?prp: 8 Remain ON: 8 Remain da0: 9 Remain Austin: 9 Remain This^^ this right here is horseshit. Apathetic voting up towards the last round is unacceptable. I think everyone should only be using 5 of there votes 3 of these players alone trump the rest of the players in the game. Sandroba doesn't even have anyvotes to defend himself while ON has 9. Actually, everyone should only be using 1 vote, and we can get some sort of real full out majority going where everyone is involved. For the people with 0 votes left. ##Mementoss vote "Player Name" and I will use one of my votes towards giving you a voice in this lynch. I have a feeling scum has WAY too much control right now. But there is a possibility its too late anyways, this method should give more information to where people are at in their thought process. Why should everyone only be using one vote? Why are you giving out votes to anyone with 0 votes left? I had planned to give away either blocks of 3 or blocks of 4 votes to people I strongly feel are town, but not to ANYONE, and not based on the number of votes they have left. How is having no votes a good criteria for who you want to give more control over the lynch to, instead of using a criteria like your townreads? what how much info are we gunna get when half the people cant vote on the lynch, and the other half have no say in the final decision. The lynch is left up to those 4 players, and since one of them is in the hot seat. He can use 9 votes to save himself. I guess playing as passive as you and not putting any reads on anyone to too late so you don't have to vote and can sheep and holding all your votes is your strategy. I guess thats cool >_>. Doesn't answer why apathetic voting is horseshit, doesn't explain why scummy. (If he's going to pay so much attention to people with lots of votes, be so concerned about them, then what is his reasoning? Is there a townie reason to worry, or is he just being active in thread and THINKS this might be a good point to push?). Doesn't explain why we should be using 1 vote. (What's his reasoning? Is it a townie one or does he want more control of lynch and is worried about townies who have votes)? Doesn't explain why he's giving away votes to anyone with 0. Some minor thoughts, typed quickly because we don't know when night ends. Really vague association! On October 11 2012 11:30 OriginalName wrote: ON had like...one post of substance. In writing about Djo, ON got a little worked up over a vote on mementoss. Possibly looking out for a scumbuddy? It's not much, but there's really not much in ON's filter. But he's directly addressing the ET/Djo matchup on D2, and he ONLY talks about ET/Djo except where he brings in mementoss. Weak at best. Djo: I'm going to wait abit to call out lurking due to timezones. However he did vote me for megalurk then disappear. One thing that bothers me this time around is believe it or not, that vote on Mementoss. He uses the excuse that he was drunk to cover it up rather than assert his position harder and back it up. It was by his words an accident, at the very least he could push it and get more reactions, there is nothing wrong in an incorrect push as it always reveals something. Anyway, if I'm looking PURELY at associations to be drawn from ON's flip, Mementoss comes off looking the worst. ON mildly references him, is concerned with a vote on him. Mementoss is relatively concerned with ET dropping votes on ON RIGHT at deadline to push him through (Hey, which faction wants to plan and didn't want ON to move into further rounds?). Also, I ALWAYS find mementoss scummy. Every game I really look at him, I end up finding him scummy. But it's not usually for stuff like this - the minor associative bits are especially different from past accusations I've made. This is your first "case" on memetoss. You say his early game looks town. And yeah it looks town as fuck. His activity cuts off quite a bit. I don't think this is really a scumtell. It fits his meta to sometimes afk. Your second point is memetoss' 1 vote idea. I had that idea too. Not a scumtell. It's a huge reach to say that this was a conspiracy theory to control the vote. Third point: he's willing to gave away votes. So were you. Also he didn't. Also this directly contradicts your idea of trying to control the vote with his scumteam. 4th point: He got pissed at ET for votebombing ON. So did I. The thing was I really thought he was a bad lynch, until sandroba started looking really town and ON was the only other option. He was a null read for everyone, and you can't blame anyone for not wanting to lynch him. 5th point: Meme toss voted for ON anyway. That's because he didn't think Sandroba was scummy. You have to realize that he was pissed about sending ON over 1der, but that is a completely different story than ON over sandroba. 6th point: He didn't answer ALL of your questions. Your questions were fucked up and pretty unanswerable though. 7th point: He says apathetic voting is horshshit. Well it is anti town so that's prob what he meant? Your book club questions: memetoss has been way more active at pushing his suspicions than someone like thrawn for instance. Also I know what it's like to play this game at work and it's really hard to be in depth and include details. I get the sense that he was keeping up on the thread and writing down his observations mostly. I do this a lot and maybe it's not super helpful but I think it's quite risky and dangerous for scum to do. 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ON and Sandroba cannot both be scum. Based on what he's said so far, I'm 99% town and sand is 99% scum. (or is my reading comprehension failing me?) I think your reading comprehension is failing you. ET said that he is 99% sure you are town. Then Dao was like yeah I think you may be right. You are exaggerating. I can see what you mean by daoud flipflopping, but flipflopping is not really a scum tell in itself. I would think that scum would be more afraid to change their mind than town. | ||
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On October 17 2012 12:34 da0ud wrote: I was actually pretty sure Thrawn would get killed, as he has been the most consistent at behaving town. On top of that he is a good player (in my modest opinion) so I thought it would have been a big hit to us in fighting for who are the real scumies left. Are we playing the same game?? Why is thrawn so town? Because he doesn't act retardedly? That's enough to make you town now? Read his filter. He has contributed nothing. His only case was a bad one on SANDROBA, confirmed town, which he went back on extremely easily. Frankly I am baffled by this thrawn dickride. I want you to explain. If you do not explain adequately I will support your lynch. gogo. Keep in mind this: the people who seem the scummiest probably aren't scum. That is because they don't care about stopping themselves from looking scummy. They are just going to act however they want to act. Scum, however, will go out of their way to act town. @daoud explain your thrawn dickride | ||
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I hate all these assumptions about scumvotes d1. I think its very.possible that they thought he would be modkilled, so they took the opportunity to gain town points from the situation. | ||
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daoud is quite an enigma. Is his scumminess from being a scum or being a newb? It's bad but I'm pretty apathetic about his lynch. My mind on him is constantly changing. He is really cute though. I want to take him to bed with me and cuddle him up. | ||
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