Aperture Mafia 2: Portal Edition - Page 87

[14:38] <austinmcc> test test
01[14:41] <@HiroPro> sup
[14:42] <austinmcc> not much, responding to keirathi i guess
[14:43] <austinmcc> don't terribly want to drop a vote on him right now, i usually vote pretty late, but I think his explanation has holes to poke at
01[14:43] <@HiroPro> yea
[14:43] <austinmcc> everything so different from this alignment
01[14:43] <@HiroPro> but it's like really nitpicking
[14:43] <austinmcc> it is, but i've actually done it before
[14:44] <austinmcc> i caught talismania in a game where he suggested some plan to get everyone active and then fumbled with the reasons he wanted to do that
01[14:44] <@HiroPro> eh do what you think is right for you I guess
01[14:44] <@HiroPro> s&b man
01[14:44] <@HiroPro> that guy could be third party
01[14:44] <@HiroPro> gonzaw looks kinda weird also
[14:45] <austinmcc> snb was REALLY inactive in GSL 2
[14:45] <austinmcc> was travelling or something, i'm unsure how active he is
01[14:45] <@HiroPro> yea, but like drazerk's point is valid
01[14:45] <@HiroPro> s&b has played so many games with drazerk
[14:45] <austinmcc> yeah
01[14:45] <@HiroPro> he knows by now that draz will hunt for third parties
[14:45] <austinmcc> bah, drazerk doesn't hunt for third parties, drazerk hunts for HIMSELF. Always rolling third party
01[14:46] <@HiroPro> lol true
[14:46] <austinmcc> it seems like we've got too much KP for a third party
[14:46] <austinmcc> actually, i have nothing to base that on
01[14:46] <@HiroPro> nah i don't think so. everyone in town will have a role
[14:47] <austinmcc> gonzaw said he was busy for a few days, snb may be busy, got a couple lurkers
[14:47] <austinmcc> trying to think who poses the biggest threat
01[14:47] <@HiroPro> "Hiro goes on my town list because no anti-town faction would be dumb enough to say that.
01[14:47] <@HiroPro> "
01[14:47] <@HiroPro> rofl
01[14:47] <@HiroPro> i feel good
[14:47] <austinmcc> haha
[14:48] <austinmcc> i haven't played with town drazerk in a real game i don't think
[14:48] <austinmcc> nor with nisani
[14:48] <austinmcc> nor much with ghost
01[14:48] <@HiroPro> i played with town draz in bastard 2
01[14:48] <@HiroPro> nisani was town also in that game, ghost 3rd party
01[14:48] <@HiroPro> might want to check it out if you have time since it's a very heavy themed game also
[14:48] <austinmcc> okay, I'll reread that over the week
[14:49] <austinmcc> i read it as it was played, but i'll refresh
[14:50] <austinmcc> Dunno if Jingle will be tunnely this game or will try to help out
01[14:50] <@HiroPro> well i'm not too familiar with him, but if ptp3 is anything to go by, he's not a threat at all
[14:51] <austinmcc> yeah. That can't be his normal play though
[14:51] <austinmcc> he's been in a few newbies, and I think he was standoffish in a couple but not all
01[14:51] <@HiroPro> i remember someone coming into the ban list thread to complain about him while the game was ongoing
01[14:51] <@HiroPro> might have been shady
01[14:52] <@HiroPro> if gonzaw has time he can be dangerous
01[14:52] <@HiroPro> no one will listen to him, but draz picks up on things
01[14:52] <@HiroPro> ghost and s&b can be decent
01[14:53] <@HiroPro> mementoss too i guess
1[14:54] <@HiroPro> matt is really up and down, dunno what he's going to be like this game
[14:54] <austinmcc> yeah, i was remembering shady and jingle sniping at each other in the one game
[14:54] <austinmcc> hmmm
[14:54] <austinmcc> i agree on gonzaw
[14:54] <austinmcc> i guess we see how this game feels, but he's someone to take out before he can spam
[14:54] <austinmcc> although he also seems to get off track sometime and just clog up thread
01[14:54] <@HiroPro> thing is right now the game is kinda dead
[14:54] <austinmcc> if snb's super inactive i'm not overly worried about him
01[14:55] <@HiroPro> gonzaw is a good guy to correct that
[14:55] <austinmcc> yeah
[15:46] <austinmcc> ooooh
[15:46] <austinmcc> looks like we might get PTP3 JingleHell
03[15:47] * iamperfection (webchat@69.177.214.63) has joined #makemoneyfast
[15:47] <iamperfection> sup
[15:49] <austinmcc> nothing, just scummin' it up
[15:50] <iamperfection> what you think of my role seems like nerve gas will be the most usefull
01[16:25] <@HiroPro> ok i think i'll goad gonzaw into jumping on JIngle again
01[16:25] <@HiroPro> if he does that, the thread will turn into crap
01[16:26] <@HiroPro> perfection your role, uh, nerve gas is useful yeah, if we think we have a vig definetely use the 500 watt button and also stack it with austin's ability
01[16:26] <@HiroPro> that way they'll likely die instantly
01[16:44] <@HiroPro> what the hell lol
01[16:44] <@HiroPro> jinglehell actually dropped that just on 1 statement I made?
01[16:44] <@HiroPro> hrm
01[16:45] <@HiroPro> and i didn't even provide any quotes or games ol

[21:11] <austinmcc> check check 1 2
[21:11] <austinmcc> i don't have very long, but i can hop in here for a bit
01[21:12] <@HiroPro> hey
01[21:13] <@HiroPro> wait so what exactly where you trying to say with the mattchew thing?
01[21:13] <@HiroPro> i didn't really get it
[21:13] <austinmcc> yeah yeah, it came out wrong
[21:13] <austinmcc> ugh
[21:13] <austinmcc> even in QT i misspeak sometimes
[21:13] <austinmcc> so
[21:13] <austinmcc> my role has an anti-bus driving property
[21:13] <austinmcc> if i hit a bussed player, BOTH bussed players get shot
[21:13] <austinmcc> so we know there's a bus driver somewhere
[21:14] <austinmcc> if we think it's just bus driver and not other protective roles, and that a bus driver would bus mattchew to protect him
[21:14] <austinmcc> then me shooting mattchew makes the most sense
[21:14] <austinmcc> hit 2 targets
[21:14] <austinmcc> but i think that we can't rely on no protective roles
[21:14] <austinmcc> and we can't rely on a protective mattchew bus
01[21:15] <@HiroPro> hm, so what exactly do you want to do?
[21:19] <austinmcc> i think we can leave mattchew up
[21:19] <austinmcc> sorry, trying to also get back into another game, was so focused on this game today
[21:19] <austinmcc> i think we can leave gonzaw up tonight
[21:19] <austinmcc> i think we can leave mattchew up tonight
[21:20] <austinmcc> i'm down with a memntoss kill\
[21:20] <austinmcc> killing Crossfire is a waste. snb is a waste (but could be fun for sheer oddness). JH is a waste. Nisani is a waste. That's 6 people entirely out if you count us out
01[21:20] <@HiroPro> drazerk is pointless.
[21:20] <austinmcc> leaves ghost, mattchew, gonzaw, drazerk, keirathi, mementoss
[21:21] <austinmcc> i agree with drazerk, and there are some suspicions on him as well
[21:21] <austinmcc> so ghost, mattchew, gonzaw, keirathi, mementoss
[21:21] <austinmcc> i don't think we should shoot ghost
[21:21] <austinmcc> or gonzaw or matt
[21:21] <austinmcc> i kind of come down to keirathi or mementoss
[21:21] <austinmcc> for the actual factional KP
01[21:21] <@HiroPro> definetely prefer shooting mementoss
01[21:22] <@HiroPro> keirathi has actual suspicion on him and is kind of zoned in on nisani
[21:22] <austinmcc> agree as well
[21:22] <austinmcc> we're all good on factional then. And I don't think mementoss seems like a good protect target or anything tonight
[21:23] <austinmcc> as for my shot, i've never actually been lynched, so I think I can avoid it
[21:23] <austinmcc> at least for tomorrow
01[21:23] <@HiroPro> ok we need that
[21:23] <austinmcc> so we need someone we want to kill next night
01[21:23] <@HiroPro> the burn then right
[21:23] <austinmcc> i don't think we can possibly aim at someone being bussed
[21:23] <austinmcc> it's just a .5 KP shot
[21:23] <austinmcc> so i can fire 2x on one guy
01[21:23] <@HiroPro> no but it's free right?
01[21:23] <@HiroPro> you can use it twice in one night?
[21:24] <austinmcc> ach night you may target a player and fire .5 silent kp at them (target will not be notified they were hit or protected from a hit). If the target is bussed with another player, both players will take the .5 kp because portals don't care about bullets.
01[21:24] <@HiroPro> yea you can't save that shot
01[21:24] <@HiroPro> you need to fire 0.5 each night
[21:24] <austinmcc> yeah, but it won't kill until tomorrow
[21:24] <austinmcc> so we've got to slightly think ahead
[21:24] <austinmcc> i could want mattchew or gonzaw gone after 2 days maybe
01[21:24] <@HiroPro> yes
[21:24] <austinmcc> i'm also slightly worried about some of the oblivious town players
01[21:25] <@HiroPro> well i think i can manipulate gonzaw
[21:25] <austinmcc> JH is super duper towny to me but maybe not to others
01[21:25] <@HiroPro> doesn't matter if he is townie or not
[21:25] <austinmcc> and Crossfire looks townie to me, if i'm viewing things objectively
[21:25] <austinmcc> well, it matters late
[21:25] <austinmcc> you're our best chance for endgame
[21:25] <austinmcc> and you're set up well
[21:25] <austinmcc> but if it's you and the two of them left
1[21:25] <@HiroPro> jh is so irritating and obssesed with himself that townies will suspect him
[21:25] <austinmcc> i'd be lynching you in a heartbeat
[21:26] <austinmcc> because they're so silly and towny. Everyone else might feel otherwise though and want to lynch JH for being JH
01[21:26] <@HiroPro> i'm going to go into endgame with crossfire and drazerk
[21:26] <austinmcc> lol
[21:26] <austinmcc> i wouldn't be surprised to see someone take drazerk out before then
01[21:26] <@HiroPro> yea it's possible
[21:26] <austinmcc> or at the very least someone can bring up lynching him for the good of endgame
01[21:26] <@HiroPro> fine i'll take gonzaw and jingle lol
01[21:26] <@HiroPro> i'm not scared of gonzaw
01[21:27] <@HiroPro> matt might still be able to figure me out
[21:27] <austinmcc> i'll be interested to read the thread if you guys are the final 3...
01[21:27] <@HiroPro> oh man that shit would be awesome lol
[21:27] <austinmcc> i'm not overly scared about gonzaw either, but he's more threatening right now than someone like snb
01[21:28] <@HiroPro> yea s&b will get lynched
01[21:28] <@HiroPro> the guy has no thread presence
01[21:28] <@HiroPro> he came in today close to the lynch and all he said was drazerk is scum
01[21:28] <@HiroPro> didn't say a word about perfection
01[21:28] <@HiroPro> that kind of stuff will seem really scummy
[21:28] <austinmcc> yeah
[21:29] <austinmcc> he's been entirely missing the last couple games i've played with him, while he was at CERN or coming back
01[21:29] <@HiroPro> nisani can be lynched too i think
[21:30] <austinmcc> i think nisani, snb, drazerk, JH without me on the vote, and even maybe ghost/keirathi can be lynched
[21:31] <austinmcc> gonzaw has some neat little suspicions on ghost, but i don't know that they'll catch. Keirathi had that comment about iamperfection looking townie off meta
[21:31] <austinmcc> which added to his other stuff makes him feel lynchable
[21:31] <austinmcc> also, gonzaw and ghost seem to find him scummy, and iamperfection's flip shouldn't make him seem more townie, even if they don't care about his iamperfection read
01[21:31] <@HiroPro> yes
1[21:32] <@HiroPro> so who's the burn target? matt? crossfire? gonzaw? i'm leaning to matt
01[21:33] <@HiroPro> actually the frame might be even more important
01[21:33] <@HiroPro> if I can just try to figure out who the cop would target
01[21:34] <@HiroPro> probably nisani/s&b/drazerk right?
01[21:34] <@HiroPro> well you and kei are possibilities too
01[21:34] <@HiroPro> but my frame only makes people look guilty, not inno
[21:35] <austinmcc> i don't see a cop checking snb N1
[21:35] <austinmcc> I could see cop checking nisani, drazerk, me, kei
01[21:36] <@HiroPro> we need to breadcrumb hunt
01[21:36] <@HiroPro> ugh it's so tiresome lol
[21:37] <austinmcc> i don't even know how you'd crumb in this game
[21:37] <austinmcc> i guess you can crumb the equivalent of your role in a normal
01[21:37] <@HiroPro> they'll do names
01[21:37] <@HiroPro> or yea equivalents
01[21:37] <@HiroPro> names of people
[21:37] <austinmcc> like if I crumb some portal word
[21:38] <austinmcc> nobody knows what that would be
01[21:38] <@HiroPro> names of people
[21:38] <austinmcc> but yeah, crumbing targets and equivalents
[21:38] <austinmcc> also, i'm guessing there are a lot of roles
[21:38] <austinmcc> everyone loved aperture for the roles
01[21:38] <@HiroPro> yea def and we have no rber left lol
[21:38] <austinmcc> people will be so disappointed if they join Aperture 2 and get no role
01[21:38] <@HiroPro> yep
01[21:38] <@HiroPro> i bet there's one troll green though
01[21:39] <@HiroPro> like the lemon thing
01[21:39] <@HiroPro> or the one that got a report of who was going to die at night at the daypost
[21:40] <austinmcc> i'm going to shoot matt i think
[21:40] <austinmcc> either matt or snb/crossfire
[21:40] <austinmcc> if one of those two die
[21:40] <austinmcc> i can claim vig or something, weeding out lurkers
[21:40] <austinmcc> or weeding out people we don't want in endgame
01[21:40] <@HiroPro> you can't claim vig, we only have 1 kp itll be too obvious
01[21:41] <@HiroPro> oh wait
01[21:41] <@HiroPro> yes you can
[21:41] <austinmcc> yeah
01[21:41] <@HiroPro> but its not a good idea
[21:41] <austinmcc> i held my shot N1
[21:41] <austinmcc> or
01[21:41] <@HiroPro> like role!=alignment
[21:41] <austinmcc> i couldn't shoot til x
[21:41] <austinmcc> yeah
[21:41] <austinmcc> but
[21:41] <austinmcc> how you use the role can show alignment
[21:41] <austinmcc> why would scum weed out a lurker
[21:41] <austinmcc> that town didn't want to take to endgame, but probably wasn't going to lynch
[21:41] <austinmcc> why wouldn't scum kill a stronger town player
[21:42] <austinmcc> i only like those as kill options because I think they provide a strong argument that the use of the role is townie
01[21:42] <@HiroPro> not crossfire
01[21:42] <@HiroPro> people would lynch you if you claimed that
01[21:42] <@HiroPro> cause he voted for perfection
[21:42] <austinmcc> yeah, true. only gonzaw suspicious of him
[21:42] <austinmcc> remember he didn't know it was plurality
[21:43] <austinmcc> so gonzaw's right, even though silly, about crossfire's vote not being a great towntell
01[21:43] <@HiroPro> no but someone will go, "that's a sign of him not having teammates to tell"
01[21:43] <@HiroPro> which is true
01[21:43] <@HiroPro> like if your teammate is up for lynch
01[21:43] <@HiroPro> you're going to know the damn voting rules
[21:43] <austinmcc> yeah
[21:43] <austinmcc> okay so
[21:43] <austinmcc> mattchew or snb
[21:44] <austinmcc> mattchew gets rid of townie. mattchew might be protected. mattchew might also be bussed
[21:44] <austinmcc> actually, i don't care AT ALL about bussing
01[21:44] <@HiroPro> wait your thing will have flavor dude i just realized
[21:44] <austinmcc> because i only do .5 kp. Horribly unlikely i'd be able to finish the person off
01[21:44] <@HiroPro> like if someone cross checks with aperture 1
01[21:44] <@HiroPro> they'll think you're scum
[21:44] <austinmcc> sure
[21:44] <austinmcc> sure
[21:44] <austinmcc> well, less sure there
[21:45] <austinmcc> i can claim to be a converted sentry gun
[21:45] <austinmcc> or whatever else
01[21:45] <@HiroPro> -_-
[21:45] <austinmcc> like...i can either claim a slightly different name
[21:45] <austinmcc> converted sentry
[21:45] <austinmcc> huggably soft sentry gun
01[21:45] <@HiroPro> that sounds so dumb lol
[21:45] <austinmcc> renegade sentry gun
[21:45] <austinmcc> this is how my mind thinks lol
[21:46] <austinmcc> or claim like...sentry gun remote
[21:46] <austinmcc> i dunno
01[21:47] <@HiroPro> wait so we have 12 people right
01[21:47] <@HiroPro> 11 after tonight
[21:47] <austinmcc> yeah
[21:47] <austinmcc> asked grey in QT about kill flavors
01[21:47] <@HiroPro> how many mislynches do we need?
[21:47] <austinmcc> if it just says "x got shot" and not "x got shot by a sentry turret" then kill flavor won't matter
[21:47] <austinmcc> even like "riddled full of holes" is fine
01[21:47] <@HiroPro> yea
[21:47] <austinmcc> assuming no protects and no vigis
01[21:48] <@HiroPro> if your thing is flame
[21:48] <austinmcc> 11 tomorrow, mislynch 1 to 10, 8 with NKs, mislynch to 7, 6 with NK, mislynch to 5, game ends that night
[21:48] <austinmcc> my thing is bullets
[21:48] <austinmcc> i'm an infinite bullet sentry turret
01[21:48] <@HiroPro> oh ok
[21:48] <austinmcc> so that's 3 mislynches
[21:48] <austinmcc> to win
01[21:48] <@HiroPro> 3 mislynches?
[21:48] <austinmcc> assuming no third party
[21:48] <austinmcc> no vigis
[21:48] <austinmcc> no protects
[21:48] <austinmcc> no nothings
01[21:48] <@HiroPro> and we need 2 of your kills or 1?
01[21:49] <@HiroPro> 1 right?
[21:49] <austinmcc> 1 kill
[21:49] <austinmcc> the second kill would take us to 3 players left with 2 of us being scum, so we'd win whether i get that kill or not
01[21:49] <@HiroPro> i don't think we can get 3 mislynches if you shoot s&b
[21:49] <austinmcc> if I die before that last night
[21:49] <austinmcc> then we'd need 4 i think
[21:49] <austinmcc> okay
[21:49] <austinmcc> i'm good shooting mattchew
[21:49] <austinmcc> that's true that we're going to need good mislynch targets
01[21:50] <@HiroPro> yea
[21:50] <austinmcc> and i guess it frees up tomorrow night's factional for anyone who comes out too strong
01[21:50] <@HiroPro> yes
1[21:51] <@HiroPro> and ill carry out the kill on memen
01[21:51] <@HiroPro> my role might be an issue later on... cause i won't know what i show up as visiting
01[21:52] <@HiroPro> cause i copy the visits of the person who i visit lol
01[21:52] <@HiroPro> but it does give me their alignment so i should still use it
[21:54] <austinmcc> yeah. as long as you don't use it on me you'll come off town to DT checks. the only risk is...what. someone rolechecking the person you target and getting back your role
[21:54] <austinmcc> then, if things go late, you might get tripped up if a roleclaim was forced
[21:55] <austinmcc> even if you had a fakeclaim name, you couldn't really show you'd done anythign to anyone
[21:55] <austinmcc> that's so far out there that it isn't worth orrying about though
[21:55] <austinmcc> okay so
[21:55] <austinmcc> kill mementoss
[21:55] <austinmcc> .5 KP mattchew
[21:55] <austinmcc> i'll write a case on mementoss tomorrow
[21:55] <austinmcc> and some other normal night stuff