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Bluelightz
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On October 02 2012 00:48 Ottoxlol wrote: I mean the thread was discussing phagga lynch and you didn't talk about it at all, I find it very strange that one would not tell his thoughts as town. I don't feel like the case on Sinensis has any real points, his useless wifoming can be something to derail this awesomely active mafia game but idk, my gut says its nothing. I don't see where his logic failed (btw, I pinned austin as scummy too, this was only one of his scummy posts, I already posted N1 my suspicion on him.) Iamperfection, you announced that you will start hunting scum, that you are suspicious of the 2 lurkers and phagga but did not provide anything why. After that Sinensis comes around with this useless "I would have voted austin if he's alive and thrawn is scum" and you vote him, even when I feel like your fos on SnB is much more viable. This is the post I am referring to + Show Spoiler + On September 29 2012 01:20 strongandbig wrote: Okay so I retread Otto and thrawn's filters again. I want to think otto is scum because I feel like "getting pissed because the case against you is bad or badly expressed" is usually a scum tell. Scum get mad because "they don't deserve to find me like that" Townies get mad because "why won't they listen to me they're just being stubborn or having confirmation bias" but that usually only comes after they make a defense. So fos for that on Otto. But the thing is the rest of his filter doesn't feel scummy to me. He stuck with his suspicion of me but didn't over exaggerate it when I was posting weird and shitty stuff. And his stuff on the random lynch seemed retarded and purposely obtuse but when I retread it assuming he actually thought a random lynch meant "everyone randomize their vote" it is actually consistent. In summary: Otto you need to post more and I don't like your reaction to pressure but at this point I don't want to lynch you. So here's who I do want to lynch - thrawn. This was the first time I read his filter all the way through, and I noticed two trends - lack of follow through and jumping reads. Look at his attacks on me and on Otto. He asks me about shiaopi and I just completely blow him off on account of not actually having read his post. But the thing is, he didn't push me on it except for a side comment at some point, because he'd moved on to Otto. Then he jumps to sinensis without actually explaining why his read on Otto changed, except that people were jumping off of Otto at that point. So I think we should lunch thrawn. I don't think we should no lynch. Unless I'm doing the math wrong, all that buys us is another no lunch. Yes that gives us extra time, but it also pretty much lets scum hand pick who is alive at lylo, it's not worth it. So ##vote: thrawn2112 I really would like to get this thread active and I don't see any other way then to start lynching lurkers. If they care at all they can come back before hammering. SnB not just lurks but posted this strange nolynch thingy. My concern with Bluelightz is that he did not try to psh for phagga even tho he had a townread on thrawn, his case on phagga was very weak, he don't pursue his other scumread Sinensis at all. ##Vote: Bluelightz I did not try push for phagga: Oh dude he just claimed BoxeR! I had a townread on thrawn and didn't defend him: On September 28 2012 00:17 Bluelightz wrote: Before I sleep, I advocate not lynching thrawn because, he's very active, and very open with his suspicions (SnB), and responsive to questions. I don't think mafia would be like this. On September 28 2012 23:03 Bluelightz wrote: I meant that, from a scum perspective, yes scum would defend his or herself, but not in the way he is defending: being active and open. thrawn continues to propose alternative lynches, which in a way provide information to the discussion, and continues to defend himself actively. Also, I don't think all his defenses/alternative lynch proposals are from collaborations (with scumbuddies), but independent work. I didn't pursue Sinensis: I wanted to lynch PHAGGA, pushing SINENSIS while pushing PHAGGA is not productive because it takes the spotlight away from PHAGGA (who I wanted to lynch). | ||
ShiaoPi
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since you seem to be here...who you wanna lynch? | ||
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Bluelightz
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On October 02 2012 00:55 ShiaoPi wrote: @bluelightz: since you seem to be here...who you wanna lynch? I'm..... making an analysis on the thrawn voters and gonna look over my top scum read from the thrawn voter pool (aside from phagga). | ||
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Ottoxlol
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@Shiaopi, iamperfection: what do you guys mean by that Sinensis logic is flawed? he posted the post of austin that made him change his mind from the first post you guys are linking | ||
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Bluelightz
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On October 02 2012 01:11 Ottoxlol wrote: @Bluelight, we know that both phagga and thrawn are town so why would you only look at thrawn voters? Because they're the ones that voted the now dead townie. (Oh dude you worried bout yourself ![]() | ||
Bluelightz
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On October 02 2012 01:10 Ottoxlol wrote: @Bluelightz: I was talking about d1, n1 before the claim. Just because you have your vote on someone that means you leave your other scumreads alone? That is scummy as fuck. You didn't push phagga even, I was just wondering why didn't you try to pressure Sinensis to try hunt scum. Get information, ask him things etc. Just because I think we should lynch you right now that doesnt mean I won't pursue SnB to talk about his nolynch thing @Shiaopi, iamperfection: what do you guys mean by that Sinensis logic is flawed? he posted the post of austin that made him change his mind from the first post you guys are linking @Ottox did you push thrawn yourself? | ||
Bluelightz
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On September 27 2012 23:29 iamperfection wrote: Actually you know what i don't think town members try to make links between players on day one like you blatantly did. ## Vote Thrawn On September 28 2012 08:34 Ottoxlol wrote: @SnB then I don't understand random lynch at all. I thought it is like we go to a random website roll 1-8 then put our votes in-> ofc scum wont do it properly so there is much less chance to lynch them My case on thrawn: His response: I gave my full read on SnB, explained why I did not vote at the moment, the first bolded part is where he lies about it, the second and third he wrote in the same post! Don't let him get away with this please ##Vote thrawn2112 On September 28 2012 14:05 Sinensis wrote: That's not a response, that's a bunch of semi sarcastic questions; half of which you answered yourself. No thanks. ##Vote: Thrawn2112 I'm keeping my vote here for now. I'd like to see what everyone else thinks too. On September 29 2012 01:20 strongandbig wrote: Okay so I retread Otto and thrawn's filters again. I want to think otto is scum because I feel like "getting pissed because the case against you is bad or badly expressed" is usually a scum tell. Scum get mad because "they don't deserve to find me like that" Townies get mad because "why won't they listen to me they're just being stubborn or having confirmation bias" but that usually only comes after they make a defense. So fos for that on Otto. But the thing is the rest of his filter doesn't feel scummy to me. He stuck with his suspicion of me but didn't over exaggerate it when I was posting weird and shitty stuff. And his stuff on the random lynch seemed retarded and purposely obtuse but when I retread it assuming he actually thought a random lynch meant "everyone randomize their vote" it is actually consistent. In summary: Otto you need to post more and I don't like your reaction to pressure but at this point I don't want to lynch you. So here's who I do want to lynch - thrawn. This was the first time I read his filter all the way through, and I noticed two trends - lack of follow through and jumping reads. Look at his attacks on me and on Otto. He asks me about shiaopi and I just completely blow him off on account of not actually having read his post. But the thing is, he didn't push me on it except for a side comment at some point, because he'd moved on to Otto. Then he jumps to sinensis without actually explaining why his read on Otto changed, except that people were jumping off of Otto at that point. So I think we should lunch thrawn. I don't think we should no lynch. Unless I'm doing the math wrong, all that buys us is another no lunch. Yes that gives us extra time, but it also pretty much lets scum hand pick who is alive at lylo, it's not worth it. So ##vote: thrawn2112 Out of them all, okay, I single out s&b, he has quite a lot of analysis behind his vote, miles better then the others. Let's move on to the other..... one liner reasons! cheers its one-liner christmas!. Sinensis "That's not a response, that's a bunch of semi sarcastic questions; half of which you answered yourself. No thanks." This is what I think of it A(thrawn): Answer this question B(Sinensis): The questions have been answered by you OMG, some of them are sarcastic too! I'll never answer these questions and possibly provide information to town! But, what does Sinensis do AFTER his vote? Oh, nothing! He doesn't help push his scum read, he doesn't make an attempt to look over thrawn, he doesn't make an attempt to give valuable information by way of scummy points to town. iamP: Besides his vote post, like Sinensis but some pushing to convince people to vote thrawn, he only says that thrawn is scummy BECAUSE he made "associative crap", he doesn't explain why "associative crap" is bad on day 1, he only says it is bad. Last but not least, Ottox: "I did this and that, he lied about this, dont let him get away", I feel this is a underwhelming explanation, because of the fact that LAL is not reliable because we have no facts (on day 1), he has nothing to base the supposed "lies" on (although the "lies" are about...... oh he did this, but thrawn said he did that). I don't think that's a scummy point (misinterpreting post's) because it's not like everybody understands what Ottox posted or what Ottox meant to post. Also, besides this, he doesn't push thrawn, AT ALL {Jumps in the wagon (I think) and sits back and let other's do the pushing}. Conclusion, I am very sure that the last 2 scum are between Ottox, iamP, and Sinensis. But right now, my firmest read is on Ottox. ##Vote: Ottoxlol | ||
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Bluelightz
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On October 02 2012 01:15 Ottoxlol wrote: Not that I am worried, I just don't see how are those voting thrawn are more scummy. I would love that you look at everyone, phagga is town as well so those voters can be scum too. ..... thrawn = dead town phagga = BoxeR that hasn't been confirmed (but I believe his claim) | ||
ShiaoPi
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Maybe I am biased since I had a early townread on austin and fail to see how others could have seen him as scum. Whatever sinensis still has to do anything this cycle beyond defending.... @bluelightz: Hmmm, there are some things you mention, which I will have to review myself. Will be commenting in the morning since I'll be heading to bed now. | ||
Ottoxlol
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My case on thrawn was perfect as far as I am concerned, he tried to lie to get me lynch and I got him in the process. If there someone else would have been near lynching I would have pushed with all my fury for thrawn because I was 1000% sure that there is no way a town would do that thrawn did with his case on me, his useless posts etc So if you are sure about phagga being town then why don't you take a look at the phagga voters? Is it a scum tactic to vote for the guy getting lynched when 2 town is pinned against each other? No. They just vote on whoever they can make a case on, and I think your case was nothing, hence why you should die today | ||
Bluelightz
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On October 02 2012 01:22 Ottoxlol wrote: My case on thrawn was perfect as far as I am concerned, he tried to lie to get me lynch and I got him in the process. If there someone else would have been near lynching I would have pushed with all my fury for thrawn because I was 1000% sure that there is no way a town would do that thrawn did with his case on me, his useless posts etc So if you are sure about phagga being town then why don't you take a look at the phagga voters? Is it a scum tactic to vote for the guy getting lynched when 2 town is pinned against each other? No. They just vote on whoever they can make a case on, and I think your case was nothing, hence why you should die today Ottox, do you understand that you helped mislynch a town? Do you understand that mislynching townies is a bad thing and attracts attention? | ||
Bluelightz
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On October 02 2012 01:22 Ottoxlol wrote: My case on thrawn was perfect as far as I am concerned, he tried to lie to get me lynch and I got him in the process. If there someone else would have been near lynching I would have pushed with all my fury for thrawn because I was 1000% sure that there is no way a town would do that thrawn did with his case on me, his useless posts etc So if you are sure about phagga being town then why don't you take a look at the phagga voters? Is it a scum tactic to vote for the guy getting lynched when 2 town is pinned against each other? No. They just vote on whoever they can make a case on, and I think your case was nothing, hence why you should die today Which case good chap? The phagga case? Oh, I think it's perfect, also, I think your case is nothing, hence why you should die today. | ||
Ottoxlol
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Everyone voting "tried to mislynch a town", why are you fixed on me/thrawn voters? Phagga is town as well, and you confirmed that you think that too so wtf My case was strong on thrawn I was trying to lynch scum, I blame him. If you think that my case was really bad why don't you attack it before? Only after I voted you. | ||
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Bluelightz
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On October 02 2012 01:36 Ottoxlol wrote: Why are you avoiding my questions? Everyone voting "tried to mislynch a town", why are you fixed on me/thrawn voters? Phagga is town as well, and you confirmed that you think that too so wtf My case was strong on thrawn I was trying to lynch scum, I blame him. If you think that my case was really bad why don't you attack it before? Only after I voted you. On October 02 2012 01:17 Bluelightz wrote: ..... thrawn = dead town phagga = BoxeR that hasn't been confirmed (but I believe his claim) | ||
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