Liquid City Mafia

On September 29 2012 11:28 BlackMamba24 wrote:
go recruit people or you're useless

On September 30 2012 15:19 VisceraEyes wrote:


Tell me what you think is "extremely forced and thought out" about Shady's trolling please. Use of the word "extremely" should make that exceedingly easy to explain, so I look forward to hearing it.

Shady Sands is the most suspicious person in the thread right now though. His explaination for his vote makes no sense with his explanation for his trolling, which also made no sense independantly. Think that didn't make sense? Read it again. And then go read Shady's posts. And be suspicious of him with me.

Also I'd like to know what you found worth reading in annul's post. First of all, setup speculation (as the mod has pointed out) is useless. Not to mention the fact that he's trying to sell certainties rather than speculating anyway - speculation has an air of questioning and uncertainty, but annul's post brashly made assumptions based on the daypost which I find terribly suspicious. So I'd like for you to explain what you liked about it if you please.

On September 30 2012 23:18 kushm4sta wrote:


That's why I said policy lynch not scum lynch.
And yeah I realize this is a contradiction from saying top scumread gets vote but I don't have a top scumread so it goes to a policy vote.
Also making too big of a deal of this, but I am happy to entertain any and all questions nevertheless.

On September 30 2012 23:32 annul wrote:


i went to sleep dude

On October 02 2012 01:06 Risen wrote:



I don't blame you for this.

On October 03 2012 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Someone shoot him. We can lynch Node easier than Annul, and I want them both dead.

Medics, on me and marv.

DTs, on BC and Mattchew.

We totally got this.

On October 03 2012 06:13 marvellosity wrote:
austin: that's because you always play so fking scummy for most of day 1 dear.

iamp: you may only use the term if you bring with it the sense of arrogance I use it with.

Anyway, Mattchew, come talk to me about your play, it's looking pretty damn scummy to me right now, especially after the first half of Day 1. You voted kj yesterday lunchtime or so, and we have this post:



You 'unvote' here in the thread but you do no such thing in the Voting Thread. You also say you're down for an austin lynch here, but you never elaborate on this again, instead going on with:





You don't talk about austin anymore at all, and instead casually suggest lynching slOosh. Except you never seem serious about it, you're just dropping his name there and off you go, not to be heard of again during the Day. You're gonna have to explain pretty well what you were thinking here as it looks scummy as shit to me. Posting for the sake of posting and not taking actually taking any real stances.



Absolutely nothing to say on how the lynch went down or anything pertinent at all. Scum bro?

On October 03 2012 08:09 marvellosity wrote:


Yes, that's one way to look at it; on the flip side, the right thing for austin to do as townie is to make reads and push things like he did, and like Node very much did not. How are you reading the both of them? I find austin quite townie now.

talismania - What is your current read on VE? Do you still think he is scum?

On October 03 2012 08:22 marvellosity wrote:
Mattchew: I think you're nitpicking at slOosh's case when the main thrust of it was similar to what I wrote. Coming back with nice paragraphs about how things went down Day 1 after the fact is very nice and all, but it's all after the fact, when it's a bit late. Somewhat nullish on slOosh because I want him to post more, but he shared similar views to me on you.

With BC, I don't like how he came in, contributed, and left, but that doesn't seem that unusual. When he was here he seemed concerned with actually finding scum, whereas my memory of seeing him play scum last is that he didn't focus on that at all. Comparing him to a different player in Bureaucracy doesn't seem relevant.

And yeah, annul is definitely scummy. I detest him objecting to pretty much every candidate just on the way the wagon went and not pushing people properly himself.

On October 06 2012 06:36 Promethelax wrote:
sorry for triple post, Matt's town read on VE


I realized I should have cited this right after I hit post.

On October 10 2012 22:28 Kreb wrote:

Are you trying to say you dont see the benefits of keeping the discussion active?

On October 12 2012 12:26 Coagulation wrote:
Mattchew

On October 12 2012 12:28 Coagulation wrote:
possibly ShiaoPi and sloosh but mostly mattchew
mattchew only comes into the thread long enough to go "lol why am i scum" and then vanishes for long periods of time. doesnt really do shit. doesnt really seem like hes trying to figure out whats going on. doesnt seem to care about the game but hes clearly being motivated to post and vote.

On October 12 2012 12:29 Coagulation wrote:


exactly

On October 12 2012 12:32 Coagulation wrote:
so what your saying is "no one else is scum hunting so why should I?"

On October 12 2012 12:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
What is your point Mattchew?

On October 12 2012 13:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay

Tinfoil hat time.

Scum had to withhold kills tonight because they reversed the flip of their coroner. Discuss.

On October 12 2012 13:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
I have another check. Scum let me have it. Anyone wanna guess who it was? Anyone? Anyone care because it's pretty much useless?

On October 12 2012 13:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
lol

Get outta here Matt.

On October 12 2012 10:49 Mattchew wrote:
how are reads and answers to questions random crap/stuff

On October 13 2012 08:46 Z-BosoN wrote:


Oh wait!!! But see, had you actually read it, I stated in that very same post that MY read was a meta read, because I've seen shady on a BUNCH of games -- UNLIKE MATTCHEW!!

"This is your only good point if true". Aww thanks, I'm flattered, you are so cute, that's all I've ever wanted.
Except no. Annul was playing scummy, that's why he got vigged. BC is playing like hardcore 3rd party (slight offside of scum). Sloosh I've also noticed how he's very different from his LVII pseudo-town meta, and am still unsure of. It's not like I'm using that argument with tunnel vision.

If you've seen mattchew fuck off and do jack shit then why haven't you said so? You are hesitant to call him scum because of his "pathetic filter"? Really? You are gonna take two fucking words and sum my entire case up on it? When only above you have even said that "This is your only good point if true"? Don't say it's laughably bad if you actually even admit that some points make sense. See what I mean by you being arrogant?

So let me get this straight. Here's your little carefully plotted scumlist and how you are proceding to deal with them:

me: Voted on annul. Then unvoted. Fuck his tradeoff with DarthPunk and the entirety of DP's arguments. He voted annul and then he unvoted lololol
DP: He jumped on a crappy "scumslip" argument. Fuck his trade off with Z-BosoN and the entirety of ZB's arguments. He jumped on a crappy "scumslip" argument and looks like he knows what's up. lololol
ShiaoPi: His name has FOUR appearances in your filter. FOUR. You haven't even commented on why you think he's scum or added jack shit to his case. You just nonchallantly added his name there.
Kreb: Omg he wants to lynch me despite my extremely legit-looking cop claim lololol!!
Mattchew: Has done shit this game. Fuck any other arguments, he's done jack shit lolol!! Actually nvm, he can't be that non-protown. ZB's case is laughably bad now, because all he says is that Mattchew has done jack shit!

You look like you are passively concocting up some people and not doing any research whatsoever. It doesn't look like you are reading anybody's filter. It doesn't look like you are legitimately trying to scumhunt. In your 14 pages of filter I've read, there is no evidence of this.
See, remember I was under the assumption you and mementoss were legit? Right now I'm playing under that assumption and shit and I'm having an incredible hard time giving that assumption any credibility. I'll keep it for today because I still think there are better lynch targets, but ffs, you haven't pushed SHIT!! The most you've done is: I want to lynch X because of Y.
Where Y is a shit one-liner reason that shows no real effort.

If I'm a scumread why aren't you reading my filter?
If both me AND darth are your scumreads why don't you read our exchange? I mean, fuck, if I honestly thought two people who have like three pages arguing against each other are scum I would certainly CERTAINLY read it and draw conclusions. But no. You are just casually putting our names there as if drawing names from a hat.

On shiaopi it's even worse. It's ridiculous. Control+F "Shiao" on his entire filter and see what you will find on his "lynch candidate". He's casually laying back and putting his reasoning behind toutestchaos, me, and like 3 other people who have made cases against shiao. This is fucking ridiculous.

It's not like you are my prince in shining armor and I expect you to win the game and gallantly throw us roses as you ride into the sunset. Fuck that. You are doing a despicable job for any standards whatsoever, and that is what concerns me and why I'm bitching about.

On October 14 2012 03:38 Z-BosoN wrote:
Coag, I really think a scum kreb wouldn't hard defend Node like that early in the game. Scum generally don't like doing that...
Even if they did, once Node was lynched they would obviously be all like "wow he sure fooled me", which is not the tone he took.
The only thing that really says it for me is the difference from his townie filter, which I've read and it sure seems a bit different.
However, he's actually trying to defend himself, unlike Mattchew, who simply disappeared.
Like nuke said, mattchew is a liability for the late game, we can't rely on him. Added to that, he actually has a decent chance of popping scum. He is also in agreement with your "awol" theory, if you check his filter, his only two posts are nowhere near dawn. Remember he also didn't vote in day 1?
Honestly, he's a much better choice.

On October 14 2012 03:16 Z-BosoN wrote:
I pretty much agree with nuke.
Can't find kreb to be scummier than him
##Vote Mattchew

On October 14 2012 03:49 Z-BosoN wrote:
Dude, read the thread, man, I'm not going to cherry pick.
Ok, let me double check the times then.

On October 14 2012 03:53 Z-BosoN wrote:
Liar liar pants on fire. October 11th you had two posts:





Then your next post on october 12th you had one:



Each of them are more than 11 hours apart from the night 4 post.
This is also just a side note, not the main things you've got going on against you.

You also choose someone who has not even one vote. There are like 6 lynch candidates today, we need to consolidate, seriously.

On October 14 2012 03:57 Z-BosoN wrote:

It was not demolished. The fact that I find VE scum and you being the only person he tried to defend ever makes me think poorly of you.
I've made my case, I've also made a post making a summary of my case.
Here it is again:
1) Your post telling people not to vote shady for shit reasons
2) Your only two major posts stating your views on people, only never to be revisited ever again. Gives off the impression that you are just wanting to look like you are scumhunting, but you are not.
VE also said that this might be true, when he ridiculed my case

On October 14 2012 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's like the third or fourth time you've interpreted that line from my post as agreement with your point - please stop. I did NOT agree with that point on Mattchew, because you said blatantly untrue things.

On October 13 2012 22:37 risk.nuke wrote:
I have a friend visiting over the weekend, I've just barely skimmed over the last pages.

The only smart thing to do today is to kill Mattchew.

We need to get rid of Mattchew because.
He is likely scum.

So we have to lynch him sooner or later. The only scenario we don't end up sooner or later lynching Mattchew is if we decide that hey, his retarded actions are probably indicators that he is town so lets not lynch him... ever.

That scenario is never going to happen. Never fucking ever. Ergo we need to kill him.

Why is it better to kill him now rather then later?
Because as the game progresses we will be able to get better reads on everyone. Just as how you have better reads on other people day 1 then day 2. This makes it sub-ideal to lynch person x today and Mattchew tomorrow rather then lynch Mattchew today and person x tomorrow. This is NOT fucking complicated but the fucking ESSENCE of standard logic now start fucking voting.

On October 13 2012 01:39 risk.nuke wrote:
Vicera. We'll never figure out Mattchews alignment. He deserve to be modkilled but that's not in our hands. Every single other player we're going to get better reads on with time with one exeption. Mattchew. Which makes it neccersary to lynch him in itself. Furthermore he's playing his scum-meta of lurking/notcaring. Try tell me why someone else is a better option.

We're lynching him today.

On October 14 2012 04:20 Keirathi wrote:

I disagree with you 99%.

And yea, I was wrong about iamp in Aperture. But I was wrong based on him making 4 posts, not 7 pages of posts.

Also, you're misrepresenting his "change of heart" on kush. He had been saying kush was town all game. Its pretty understandable that he hopped on the red check and then still had doubts, especially with the way kush was acting in crunch time. It was so different from every kush scum game.

I want you to do a little research into iamp if you're so convinced. Read GSL 2 and Newbie XIX. Tell me if the iamperfection in this game feels like the scum iamperfection in those games. Because I just don't see it.