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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 00:26 GMT
#2691
What the fuck? What's wrong with that post huh?
You want people to treat you with flowers if you shit on their heads, call their cases bad and blatantly ignore what they write?
No, dude, answer my post. DOn't "fuck you" me.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 00:37 GMT
#2697
On October 13 2012 09:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:26 Z-BosoN wrote:
What the fuck? What's wrong with that post huh?
You want people to treat you with flowers if you shit on their heads, call their cases bad and blatantly ignore what they write?
No, dude, answer my post. DOn't "fuck you" me.


I'm done with you.

And let this be on reference to everyone who agrees with the arguments I have made in my recent posts.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 00:44 GMT
#2701
ShiaoPi, can you reference where he slipped please? On my cell phone now
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 00:47 GMT
#2702
On October 13 2012 09:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On October 12 2012 15:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm never checking BC you hear me? NEVER.



Just so you guys know, this is where VE gave his scumtell.

Why would a DT who gets back role / alignment not check the only player in the game suspected thus far of being third party who could out me if I am lying? Why would he only check someone we had the alignment of? The single only way for him to prove his sanity and thus the existence of a mafia framer was to check the one player in the game everyone believes is not town or mafia? Why? Because of all the people VE named last night as his check options I was most likely to be framed. Of all of them pushing me to be lynched right after to confirm framer existence would remove a player most of you believe to be anti town.

Instead he "checks" a player who has already claimed a role in thread thus to prove that a framer must exist. A town player would choose someone believed to be anti town as if that belief was correct a check would reveal a role that has not flipped.


Also, contrary to popular belief I was not shot, roleblocked, or any other form of night targeted that would kill me or inform me I was targeted.



It was because I was high and when I decided you're probably third, I saw "Paranoid Arsonist" and assumed that you can only fuck with people who target you. So no, I'm not checking you bro.

Don't tell me who I would check. I told town that I didn't check someone I thought was scum already. I don't care if you don't like that.



Incorrect. Checking me proved if framer existed / confirmed me or you. Why? Because If I am third party and you revealed the wrong role I would out you and you'd die in a 1 for 1 trade with me. This would benefit the town. Stress THIS WOULD BENEFIT TOWN.

In any exchange I would always be offed first given the massive suspicion on me and it would confirm your theory while removing what everyone believes an anti town influence from the game. Yet instead you opted to check SOMEONE WHO HAS ALREADY CLAIMED. Who no one has doubted the claim of. Unlike any other player in the game, it has been proven I cannot be scum, thus if you are mafia and believe I am third party you would have to guess at my role. If you are town you would receive my role.

As for you just claiming that you thought I was paranoid arsonist and assumed I can only fuck with people that target me? Why did node not die the moment he targeted me? Why did I not off him before he was replaced? Does this mean you doubt MMtoss claim because he also visited me and nothing has happened to him?

Please enlighten me.


Arsonist primes target - chooses when to ignite or whether to ignite. Or something. I don't know BC. All I know is that "Paranoid" is in the title.

I understand that my check didn't benefit town. I've already explained it was for me.

I suspect you of third because you're not scum and you're not PLAYING like any townBC I've ever seen. But I'm not interested in "removing you from the game" because I don't KNOW that you're third...and I don't fucking CARE BC because I'm looking for SCUM.

Why do you "know" that I'm scum now? That's so against everything you've been saying all game.


For the same reason I fucked Mattchew last game. You fucked up. You made the biggest slip in this entire game. One thats only going to be caught by a seasoned player. Simple. You are using role speculation as a reason to not check the only person in the game that

A) is believed to be third party
B) Confirmed not mafia.

This simple check as much as you "dont want to remove me from the game" would have removed a potential third party thus not town, while confirming the existence of a framer or a mafia cover up role while CONFIRMING YOUR FUCKING ALIGNMENT.

This is the best and most efficient use of the gd role you claimed while removing a believed anti town and confirming yourself. It then *gasp* confirms coag removing 3 players from the fucking pool of people to be analyzed, forcing mafia to shoot into a pool of players etc....

You take any bit of control they might be getting in thread and remove it. Instead you "checked" for your personal use, Dts don't check for themselves, they check for town. Unless you are scum, then you check to ensure the watcher was a real watcher and not bullshitting, or you check your scumbuddy and confirm his "claim"


Why?? Because he's right or because he's wrong?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 00:56 GMT
#2706
Then why didn't he just say he confirmed you as 3rd party?
If he realized this, as scum, he would have said exactly that, no?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 01:19 GMT
#2712
On October 13 2012 10:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:56 Z-BosoN wrote:
Then why didn't he just say he confirmed you as 3rd party?
If he realized this, as scum, he would have said exactly that, no?


He would have to know exactly which role third party was, does third party appear as a different role to dt checks, etc....

A third party role at this point in time is a complete unknown as no one knows what it will flip. Thus it is the only role that could clear him from all suspicion while clearing all of his current checks. Given that the best shot for said check was me, why would he not do it? Why would he try to only benefit himself instead of trying to benefit the entire town? He has no way to know that he won't die at night thus should be using his checks as efficiently as possible to benefit the town, yet he hasn't.


Why not just say something like serial killer? Regardless of what he'd said you would have gone after him calling him scum because you are actually town, no?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 01:38 GMT
#2728
On October 13 2012 10:27 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 08:46 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 13 2012 07:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBos I'm not responding to your case on Mattchew because its points are, literally:

  • Weird post defending Shady (Town) EVEN THOUGH YOU DID THIS TOO
  • "completely random crap" without elaborating on why any of it is not relevant. And it IS, because he gives his opinion of Austin, Kingjames and BC.
  • "Completely random stuff. Draws no conclusions and looks like its just there to feign some sort of participation." This is your only good point if true, but he actually does draw a couple of conclusions (annul playing like scumAnnul, BC playing like BereaucracyBC, not up to town-BC standards, slOoshScum)
  • "pathetic filter"


That's IT ZBos.

I've seen Mattchew fuck off and do jack shit for a whole game before. I'm hesitant to call him scum because of his "pathetic filter" and your case is laughably bad at convincing me that he's scum.

Frankly I don't give a FUCK that you're "angry" about how "arrogant" and "bad" I'm playing. I'm here, and I'm trying. I don't care if you don't like the quality of my play, and I don't give a fuck that you don't like that I haven't been building "cases" up to your exacting standards. I'm doing what I can when I can.


Oh wait!!! But see, had you actually read it, I stated in that very same post that MY read was a meta read, because I've seen shady on a BUNCH of games -- UNLIKE MATTCHEW!!

"This is your only good point if true". Aww thanks, I'm flattered, you are so cute, that's all I've ever wanted.
Except no. Annul was playing scummy, that's why he got vigged. BC is playing like hardcore 3rd party (slight offside of scum). Sloosh I've also noticed how he's very different from his LVII pseudo-town meta, and am still unsure of. It's not like I'm using that argument with tunnel vision.

If you've seen mattchew fuck off and do jack shit then why haven't you said so? You are hesitant to call him scum because of his "pathetic filter"? Really? You are gonna take two fucking words and sum my entire case up on it? When only above you have even said that "This is your only good point if true"? Don't say it's laughably bad if you actually even admit that some points make sense. See what I mean by you being arrogant?

So let me get this straight. Here's your little carefully plotted scumlist and how you are proceding to deal with them:

me: Voted on annul. Then unvoted. Fuck his tradeoff with DarthPunk and the entirety of DP's arguments. He voted annul and then he unvoted lololol
DP: He jumped on a crappy "scumslip" argument. Fuck his trade off with Z-BosoN and the entirety of ZB's arguments. He jumped on a crappy "scumslip" argument and looks like he knows what's up. lololol
ShiaoPi: His name has FOUR appearances in your filter. FOUR. You haven't even commented on why you think he's scum or added jack shit to his case. You just nonchallantly added his name there.
Kreb: Omg he wants to lynch me despite my extremely legit-looking cop claim lololol!!
Mattchew: Has done shit this game. Fuck any other arguments, he's done jack shit lolol!! Actually nvm, he can't be that non-protown. ZB's case is laughably bad now, because all he says is that Mattchew has done jack shit!

You look like you are passively concocting up some people and not doing any research whatsoever. It doesn't look like you are reading anybody's filter. It doesn't look like you are legitimately trying to scumhunt. In your 14 pages of filter I've read, there is no evidence of this.
See, remember I was under the assumption you and mementoss were legit? Right now I'm playing under that assumption and shit and I'm having an incredible hard time giving that assumption any credibility. I'll keep it for today because I still think there are better lynch targets, but ffs, you haven't pushed SHIT!! The most you've done is: I want to lynch X because of Y.
Where Y is a shit one-liner reason that shows no real effort.

If I'm a scumread why aren't you reading my filter?
If both me AND darth are your scumreads why don't you read our exchange? I mean, fuck, if I honestly thought two people who have like three pages arguing against each other are scum I would certainly CERTAINLY read it and draw conclusions. But no. You are just casually putting our names there as if drawing names from a hat.

On shiaopi it's even worse. It's ridiculous. Control+F "Shiao" on his entire filter and see what you will find on his "lynch candidate". He's casually laying back and putting his reasoning behind toutestchaos, me, and like 3 other people who have made cases against shiao. This is fucking ridiculous.

It's not like you are my prince in shining armor and I expect you to win the game and gallantly throw us roses as you ride into the sunset. Fuck that. You are doing a despicable job for any standards whatsoever, and that is what concerns me and why I'm bitching about.


ok first of all, I never called shady town, you are really taking that post completely out of context. I was saying that no one in the thread voting shady had any actual reason to be voting him. please stop saying at any point i ever called him town because there is a HUGE difference.

second, you are calling my answers to questions directly posed to me fluff and meaningless is bullshit and a misrepresentation of my posts.

third, you can think my reads are crap, but atleast explain why that makes me scum and not just wrong.

ok i am on a computer and gonna do a lot of reading and stop defending myself for a few posts




Sorry, not that they were crap is my main argument, and sorry for saying they were meaningless. I'm hurting a lot of feelings today..
The issue I'm having is the fact that you never revisited them, and the fact that they, in my humble opinion, did not help the thread much - did not give the game more meaning - if you will. It felt blank and unpurposeful.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 02:03 GMT
#2740
I'm not voting on BC. What he says actually has some sense. I agree that VE's "confirmation" on mementoss was unfathomable (see how cute and non-aggressive I am? Unfathomable. Not retarded), especially when coupled with the initial "omg, you guys are never gonna guess who I investigated", which in itself looked scummy as fuck.

I also agree with his point to say he was saved by the medic. I don't see how this lie confuses town... When I was a vet in XXVIII the last thing I wanted to say was OMG SHOOT ME. By that logic, since he's likely third party, saying he's a vet would have been weird as hell. So for him it's either say nothing or say he was protected by a vet.

Anyways, I'm done trying to sort things out for now. Will lift myself some weights, man up, and decide who it's best to go ahead and lay down the Boson hammer.
I'm going to push one of mattchew/VE/DP. I've decided VE's scummingness is too much to ignore, especially after he basically QQed himself out of answering me (one of his top "scumreads") when I was onto him like a rabid dog.

Asta la vista, sirs.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 04:11 GMT
#2775
On October 13 2012 13:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like why the fuck did marv play super pro town as a GF? It's his JOB to get checked guy. That's his PURPOSE.

Why would he do that if I were on his team?


Ah, and DID you check him when you got roleblocked? Funny how you never mentioned this. You just said you got roleblocked.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 04:32 GMT
#2780
VE, riddle me this. When DP said stuff concerning the two night kills, you quickly called it a scumslip. Do you still think it's a scumslip? Tell me more about DP. In my head, it's him vs. you at the moment.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 04:32 GMT
#2781
Also, I'm noticing that no one, NO ONE is claiming roleblocked? Did mafia roleblocker just take the day off?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 04:47 GMT
#2788
On October 13 2012 13:42 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 10:52 Kreb wrote:
Its really hard to go to sleep, this thread is so interesting atm
Im not used to be awake when all the action happens. ;(


his last post is so scummy its laughable.
Is anyone here thats a townie feel like the events in this thread can be described even remotely "INTERESTING"
No I highly doubt a townie would ever describe this derpstorm of retarded frustrating bullshit interesting ever.

scum on the other hand would be very intrigued by what will happen next if theres a townie vrs townie lynch brewing.


What? Why frustrating? What did you think of it? Who do you think is scum? Tell me more.
Is this all you can fathom from the last 4 pages?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 05:01 GMT
#2792
You said his post was scummy.
That's far him being your top scum read.
You also didn't post anything at all during all of that, does that make you scum?
iamperfection also showed he was present during all of this, does that make him scum too?
Who cares what he thinks, if he used the adjective unholy, instead of frustrating, would you have found him scum?
Wtf are you talking about, "piss poor town play"? Expand on that. What would have been ideal for you?

And lol to your other post? I'm not asking for your description of it. I'll be more clear: do you think VE is scum?. Or is the "if he were scum, he woulda claimed roleblock!" your sole reason to not think him so, despite everything that's transpired?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 05:02 GMT
#2793
That's like 7 questions in one post. Start typing.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 05:05 GMT
#2794
On October 13 2012 13:32 Z-BosoN wrote:
VE, riddle me this. When DP said stuff concerning the two night kills, you quickly called it a scumslip. Do you still think it's a scumslip? Tell me more about DP. In my head, it's him vs. you at the moment.

Or have you no comment on one of your top reads?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 05:10 GMT
#2798
On October 13 2012 14:06 Coagulation wrote:
the only question that is worth answering.
ve checking toss is piss poor town play

Haha you are mr. arrogant no.2

keirathi, that's actually pretty interesting. Let's add BC instead of coag though. The only reason we *know BC is 3rd party is because of mementoss, and I'm getting a townie feel from coag.

And I do agree, it does look like VE is trying to get lynched. BC also sounds strangely sure that VE's night choice was a scumslip/mistake whatever. Hmmmm... *puts conspiracy goggles on
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 05:19 GMT
#2802
On October 13 2012 14:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 14:05 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 13 2012 13:32 Z-BosoN wrote:
VE, riddle me this. When DP said stuff concerning the two night kills, you quickly called it a scumslip. Do you still think it's a scumslip? Tell me more about DP. In my head, it's him vs. you at the moment.

Or have you no comment on one of your top reads?


Done with you. Move along.


Done with me? Yay, that means I'm not scum right? I mean, you are also done with pushing your second biggest read, right? Oh wait, right, that never happened! Phew!
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 05:21 GMT
#2803
On October 13 2012 14:15 Coagulation wrote:
no i dont think ve is scum. but I have been wrong about him every time hes been scum in the past.

Has he ever R-R-R-Rage quit in the past and voted for himself?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 05:42 GMT
#2807
I play during class
This game is anti-life
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 06:52 GMT
#2812
So Kei, while I agree that's certainly plausible, how do we go about it?
If we lynch VE, we won't know anything for certain, as he will pop up PI.
If we lynch mementoss, and he's scum, GG. If he's town, we just lost a Medical Examiner.
Since it might be either BC/Coag, it's riskier lynching these two.
So if you are really balls out on that theory, mementoss is the best lynch slot, no?
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