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If we ignore the end result, I still think it was stupid and a huge risk to lynch Sonic Death Monkey. The case against him was based entirely on connection theories and WIFOM, with little (if any) basis in filter analysis. Compared to KillingTime, Sonic Death Monkey's filter looked nowhere near as suspicious. Looks like at least kushm4sta agreed with my assessment: On September 10 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote: Do I agree with or even understand Jacobs case? No. But we needed consensus so rather than trying to convince him otherwise by making a case is my cell phone I just went with it lol For some reason, though, it looks like my questioning of Jacob's play turned me into the top suspect. To that I have to ask: didn't kushm4sta have very similar doubts? And why wouldn't I have gladly bussed Sonic Death Monkey to gain town cred as Mafia? And why would I have then been pushing WeeTee/imcasey for so long? If you look at my posts yesterday, you see that I'm struggling with my reads and trying to find the best solution. KillingTime, on the other hand, doesn't apparently care about who gets lynched in the least. It must have been unfortunate that the bandwagon formed on Sonic Death Monkey, but his exceedingly eager jump on Sonic Death Monkey could be a clever plot to gain some nice town cred. I, on the other hand, didn't even stop to think about town cred, but instead openly shared my doubts. It was clear at that point that there was no turning around the bandwagon, so I'd be a pretty bad Mafia to all-in and risk everything for just a bit faster victory. Stutters695 is confirmed town, and kushm4sta and JacobStrangelove would have to be godly players to actually be Mafia. That leaves only KillingTime. I'm not sure what more I can do to affect the outcome, and I'm severely short ontime as well, but I'll try to answer any additional questions or accusations when I can. | ||
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One more thing: the NK of Jacob doesn't look good for me, but remember, it's what everyone would expect if I actually was Mafia. If the NK had been, for example, kushm4sta or Stutters695, it could have caused a wave of second-guessing and all around uncertainty for KillingTime. This way everything looks neatly like I have to be the final Mafia. Who would benefit from that, me or KillingTime? Please take a look at our filters if nothing else. I just don't have the time to post right now, but hopefully I can make a big case later on. | ||
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 Kind of lost my motivation to play at the end, but it was a fun road to the end. And I learned two important things from this (my last) newbie game:A) Establishing your innocence as town consists of engaging actively in all of the discussion and only changing your own views if you have a good reason. B) The worst mistake as Mafia is going into panic mode and starting to defend your teammate - never hesitate to bus unless you have no other choice. The title of Most Valuable Player has to go to Jacob, although I still don't truly understand his reasoning for lynching Sonic Death Monkey  But the end result is undeniable..(I think I'm not going to play for a while, since it was a painful experience to see new developments in the discussion and not having the time to post - especially since as Mafia, I had to double-check all my posts for slips. My military service will end in January, though, and I guess our schedules will become more relaxed near to the end, so I'll see you all in normal Mafia games at least after a few months!) | ||
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"Thus, my basic day one scum team kicker is: ## KillingTime, Cubu, Xatalos Xatalos because he's in the military, and military dudes are suspicious ;P" | ||
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On September 13 2012 18:50 DarthPunk wrote: That's the problem though. When it came down to it There were only 4 townies in the game. and you did not make the top four whichever way you looked at it. I recommend you all to read this if you have not already. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=362042 It was a bastardised version of this scum hunting strategy that got you. I think going for the perfect victory caught up with you. And you were also over confident by the end judging by the Scum QT. If I were you I would have bussed one of your own HARD. Then you would have been in the position Jacob was in and could have lynched anyone of your choosing. In hindsight, I agree. We should have bussed one of us hard and taken the easy win. However, I (we) got a bit overconfident and wanted to go for a flawless victory (I was also hesitant because our cover was starting to crack slowly but surely... would a bus be enough for the win?). | ||
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On September 13 2012 21:17 marvellosity wrote: let me find something for you guys edit: read the few posts starting from here. drazak all but claimed medic in-thread ^_^ further edit: That one was the cutest. Hapa and I had big smiles talking about the passage sitting on IRC. If you look at the MafiaQT, I also noticed that, but I had a hard time believing he actually Medic-slipped so obviously Maybe we should have killed him and prevented Stutters from becoming confirmed town, haha! | ||
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