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Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 26 2012 12:33 GMT
#437
My thoughts on it are that I would much prefer a lynch on Shady, as although I am suspicious of Dandel, this recent lack of interest is either a very good self bus play, or genuine disinterest, which I would not expect from a scum player.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 26 2012 12:36 GMT
#439
And is it just me or has Kush suddenly become easily understandable? I don't only refer to how he is generally presenting a similar position to me, but his writing has improved faster than I thought possible.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 27 2012 01:45 GMT
#483
##FoS thrawn2112

I have been thinking you bad town for some time, but the constant discrepancies between your reads and my own are starting to be suspicious. I'm putting you as my scummiest read after Shady Sands and Dandel Ion. It is not that you are completely irrational like WeeTee and Kush have been previously, but that you seem both capable of logic and complete irrationality.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 27 2012 01:50 GMT
#484
Kush is now confirmed town unless someone comes forward and claims they were also nightblocked. If this does not happen, then I am going to start FoSing anyone who questions him for deliberate attempts to spread confusion.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 27 2012 05:29 GMT
#494
If I can't get a lynch on Shady, I am sure as hell getting a lynch on Dandel. He is so scummy it hurts. His opting out of the game is the only reason I have to doubt him, and that is also consistent with a mafia who is looking at a lynch. Think about it, if you were mafia and everyone was zeroing in on you, you could opt out to preserve your fragile self-esteem, or you could opt out to stop people lynching you as scum, which would lead to a better chance of scum victory.

I will be doing more posting later, at the moment I'm just doing spot responses.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 27 2012 11:46 GMT
#504
@Kush
But such a conversation could be entirely contrived. Shady could just be covering his tracks, which is to be expected in this scenario of any scum. I am glad you will still vote Dandel, though I'd prefer it if you actually believed what you were voting for.

Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 27 2012 11:47 GMT
#505
##vote Dandel Ion
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 27 2012 11:50 GMT
#506
I think Dandel Ion is the best lynch, and I think many people here agree. If there is controversy over this, i will post another detailed case tomorrow, but if he's gonna get lynched either way I'd rather not. I may have other suspicions, but Dandel Ion is the one that is most likely to end up being productive.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 27 2012 11:52 GMT
#507
EBWOP: by 'being productive', I mean get actually lynched. I regret not getting him lynched yesterday.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 29 2012 02:53 GMT
#582
Hey guys.

I was the cop. I misplayed day one by not being awake in time to save Weetee, if I was there I am certain we would have got Dandelion, and then town investigated Shady sands that night. I was instead too late to save weetee (my bad), and investigated dandelion instead knowing that he would be the next lynch target. He flipped red, so I made a non-committal move against him hoping to get him lynched without making myself a NK target. The momentum was good, and so he went down without too much fuss.

I was in a position where I could have either been very aggressive, as Alsn had got lynched and was the closest position to my own. If I had have been night-killed, the town would almost certainly have realised the pattern of anybody accusing SS and Dandelion goes down, and planned their next lynches accordingly. The other option was to not make too much noise, and silently secure both mafia (I was pretty certain it was Dandel Ion and SS), then rolecall and have them both lynched for an end-game gambit. This was the course I chose, but the fallout between the scum team preceded this eventuality making this course of action unnecessary.

@Thrawn: I was unaware that the roles were randomised, I made the assumption that all of the roles mentioned in the OP were present in the game, and this was a horrible thing to do. Even worse, I made mention of there being a cop, and a clever scum may have traced the basis of this assumption and got me lynched. I deliberately ignored any talk of there being cops from that point on hoping that nobody would catch on. While I think that at times you were conditionally irrational, I overplayed this hoping to lose you enough credit so that my reads would take precedence, without having to roll-call cop. I did have an inkling suspicion on you, but nothing in comparison to my reads on Dandel and SS.

@Alsn: Your death was not for nothing! You were my strongest town read from the start after thrawn, and when I started doubting him I was relying heavily on you being town. You getting NK made me much more certain of my reads, and gave me security against nightkills (though it turned out I wouldn't need this).

@Kush: I too think your rolecall was the best course of action under the circumstances. I don't think your 'noob trap' is the best play the majority of the time, but it is fun and made the game interesting. If it was in fact intentional, which I suspect it may have been, it did give me very clear signals on SS, and worked out for the best.

@SS: I pulled my tunneling back for two reasons:

a) I'm both busy and lazy, preferring to do less when at all possible. I also live in Australia which can make it difficult to get stuff done at the right time.

b) I was cop and didn't want to bring attention to myself if at all possible. Although apparently in the QT I was suspected by at least one person, I was getting no indicators that I needed to step up my game from within the thread, and so thought it best to lurk a bit.

It's unfortunate that there was such discontent within the mafia fold, this cut the game shorter than it normally would. On top of this, I'm pretty sure seven town to two mafia would be fairly town favoured statistically. Regardless, it is nice to win my first game, and I look forward to playing with you all in the future!!

<3

----,--'-@
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 29 2012 03:11 GMT
#584
Yeah I figured as much. At the time I knew that Dandel would flip red, so I was going to use this to both convince you that I'm worth listening to (as we had been banging heads a fair bit), but also make the other town prioritise my opinion over yours so I could get town backing if Shady flipped red on my next investigation.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 29 2012 06:04 GMT
#599
Oh really? Those are some good stats BlazingHand, thank you. TBH I was simply assuming it would be town favoured because otherwise the scum would not be required to take any risks, which lead to a very small chance of exposing yourself. If it is the case that Mafia are not required to take risks, then wouldn't they just act as townish as possible? Couldn't you simply not read your role slip and assume you're vanilla town, and act accordingly?
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 29 2012 06:09 GMT
#602
Could you also give me a read on my play? Do you think I come off as scummy? Someone in the QT thought I was pretty scummy at the start, but I don't see myself acting at all scummy until I started getting confident and/or lazy near the end. From this game, what would you categorise my meta as? I was going for 'rational with nothing to hide', which could potentially cause problems if I roll scum and people go back and read my meta.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
August 29 2012 06:23 GMT
#604
Haha good answer ty.
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