EPTAbout how many times per day is one expected to post?
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About how many times per day is one expected to post? | ||
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On August 13 2012 09:20 Keirathi wrote: You are expected to post AT LEAST once per day/night cycle. You also are required to vote every day cycle. However, I would be sad if that's all that you posted. Unofficial response: I think its generally a good idea to try to post 7-8 times per day at the very least. Any less than that, and people are going to be questioning your amount of content. Lurking makes the game unfun for everyone. Day being Mafia Day or real day? And thanks. | ||
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On August 13 2012 09:42 Keirathi wrote: Mafia day, aka 48 hours. Thanks. | ||
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Imagine how scared of posting you would be if you'd signed up for your first game and rolled Mafia. Your posts would be short, infrequent, and not hold any information that disagrees with the general direction so as not to stand out. | ||
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Because I've played one game of Mafia in my life, it was on another forum and that happened. But I forgot that "Newbie" in the title means that everyone is a fucking veteran and doesn't need to be told anything. I have no idea what a good post is, please enlighten me on how I can make completely flawless first posts with zero information. | ||
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On August 15 2012 09:55 thrawn2112 wrote: If there isn't an SK, then this line of discussion is a complete waste of time and we would be doing the mafia's job for them, which is why I asked if anyone has experience in games with an SK so that we all can get a better idea of what the risk/reward anaylsis should be on determining whether or not and when to focus on a potential SK. No no, please stop with your "advice" because any text at all might be contrived as suspicious and followed up on instantaneously by sniper fire. | ||
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On August 15 2012 10:15 Shady Sands wrote: Stutters. Stutters said something perfectly townish which you tried to soft twist into scummy play. Then you say: You're basically accusing stutters without accusing him directly. Why? Lol you think in my first serious attempt at a game I'd start implying stuff with multiple layers of meaning? I wanted to post something day one that would at least show I had read the TL guides and was making an effort to participate. Feel free to read into it like I'm a pro though. Go on. Everyone IS DOING THE SAME THING today, which is trying NOT TO DIE AT THE FIRST MENTION OF AN INCONSISTENCY. If you don't stop I will vote you. | ||
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On August 15 2012 10:23 Shady Sands wrote: Only scum focus on trying to survive. Town focuses on scumhunting. Why would you devote your first post to trying to show participation? Wow. Guess I'm scum then. ##Vote: Shady Sands Seriously this is not worth your amazing detective skills, case solved already, go look at someone else. Or just realise that I'm trying and shut up. | ||
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##Vote: Shady Sands | ||
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To get you to stop quoting me. It's NOT HELPING ANYONE. Go post about someone else. | ||
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However, we should always strive for clarity and activeness. From my readings, these are the two master traits we must have if we want to win as townies. This being said, I will strike with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy these virtues! Hey Shady this guy is VERY SUSPICIOUS for saying exactly the same as me and I think you should get right on questioning him into the ground. | ||
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On August 15 2012 10:47 thrawn2112 wrote: I wouldn't know if they are more or less articulate than however he may have been in previous games, but for this purpose of this game it's making his posts a little unclear. Unclear could just mean unclear OR mafia, but the end result is that I pay more attention to his posts. O WOW IM BEING PAID ATTENTION TO ITS ALL I DREAMED OF Let's go with the meta-meta-analysis of tiny comments without adding anything new, that's sure to help. When Shady Sands stops the 'thing' he has going I'll vote for who you're "paying attention to" because that's an objective measure appreciated by town players everywhere. | ||
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On August 15 2012 11:01 mkfuba07 wrote: Alright, I feel like Shady was overreacting too, but there needs to be a starting point for discussion. Your reactions have been completely emotionally based and by virtue of not being pro-town, appear scummy by default. Might his posts have been a bit contrived? Yes. From what I can see, he's scumhunting no matter what. Whether he actually believes that your first few posts were scummy, your follow-up posts aren't helping town in any way. You say you'll vote for someone when someone else makes a case for them based on reasoning, so start trying to do that instead of screaming at Shady. > Drops in from ceiling > Why, yes, I can see some of argument A but I can also see some of argument B, aren't I so fair and reasonable good sirs > Let me give advice to you, for I am a kind and generous spirit ................ ...... .. . . . | ||
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On August 15 2012 11:33 goodkarma wrote: Regarding lynch all lurkers: Yeah. Got me last game as scum with that but tbh I would have been just about as active day one as town. I still don't really have day one figured out, so don't expect me to go into hyperactive mode for day one this game. [/QUOTE] Because people care about your detailed feelings on when you like to post. Now would be a great time to discuss policy. Let's discuss your policy of making an """"""""""""""""""introductory"""""""""""""""""""""""" post trying to be all helpful. As we know, doing this at all gets a call from the SCUMHUNT POLICE who want details of your movements for the last five years inclusive. | ||
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On August 15 2012 11:44 thrawn2112 wrote: solar you really need to clear up your post formatting, especially concerning the quote feature can't because of no edit rule | ||
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To summarize my meta, in the first 2.5 games, I am quick to make accusations and switch my vote players with little explanation. I decided to change my meta in game 3 where I drew vanilla townie. I played more conservative to avoid suspicion. I am not sure which meta I will choose this game  HOW ABOUT NOT DYING SMILEY FACE | ||
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I intend to be civil and not emotional from now on. My posts were very deliberately an attempt to get discussion going and see what people's alignments were, and this was a success in that I want to point out two people. My behaviour was consistently anti-town, so a good town player would be telling me to stop being erratic but not defending me. So, first I want to discuss Shady Sands. Apart from one-line questioning of me, and the unneeded insistence on filters as has been pointed out, he has done little else and none of his arguments have been reasonable or backed up by evidence. His enduring suspicion of me based on the first post doesn't make sense because it was just the second post and neither town nor mafia would have a motivation to start accusing someone at that point. If it was just to start discussion in itself why would he persist in asserting it for the next eight pages as if it was substantial. Secondly, the continued defence of me by Thrawn has no basis. I was clearly being anti-town. Some evidence: "I am still of the opinion that solar's posts are somewhat likely to be emotional overreactions rather than scummy." "Shady, can you explain your reasoning for initially jumping all over solar?" "Most of the discussion right now is about solarsail. I don't think there's anything wrong with this because so far his posts haven't seemed very useful but we have still yet to hear from several players. He could easily be town and just reacting to everyone immediately jumping on his case as soon as the game starts." "Suspicion of a soft accusation is hardly good evidence that he should be lynched especially when there has been so little discussion so far so I am not sold on your case against him." There is little reason to defend me so much unless your motivation is to defend someone he knows to be town player for deflection reasons. -- I am unvoting because my original vote was baseless and I want to hear Shady's response before making a serious attempt at voting him. Unvote The thread consensus has been that I'm town. Thus if I am mafia I have nothing to gain from changing my playstyle now. | ||
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Looking at his filter that's even more erratic than I was acting. Worthless vote, full on vote rescinded within a page, not sharing information are all indicators. I'm waiting for YH's response particularly on the 'information' he has. Shady, I still feel the same about you. - I understand why you said filters are useful. Why the insistence on everyone /posting/ filters? They are accessible to anyone who is interested, given that we at most have two previous games to look at, and you've mentioned it far more than just a few posts to remind everyone they exist. - The explanation for my post is what I originally said: I had this feeling once and I didn't know most in this game had far more experience than me so I wanted to point that out from experience. Nothing else intended by that. After I defended that (weak) accusation, you continued to press me on it instead of pressing me on my anti-town posting which was far and away the most standout thing about me. You actually underreacted to the fake vote and my responses to you. | ||
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Mafia games are not about forgetting. Whatever you (YH) said is on record, whatever suspicions you have do not go away over single posts. What made you change your mind so completely that you now want to forget what you said before hand? | ||
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Shady, I do not have the link because the game was played in 2008 and the site's forum has since been wiped and reset. I'm glad you gave some straight answers to my points, I just have one more thing: why are you no longer suspicious of me? Ochrow do you have anything to comment upon YH or Shady or something new in the thread? Instead of posting about the general consensus. | ||
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1. I wasn't suspicious of Jhuyt because there was so little to work with. I have him down as a near-lurker and hence '?' for now. 2. Jhuyt and I have a specific history in a specific thread involving some deleted posts. It's understandable him and him alone would say that. | ||
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There's essentially no way to verify the truth of this statement if only him and Solar can attest to it. I want to hear a clearer read between Solar and JHuyt, specifically why Solar believes JHuyt to be innocent and not worth a lurker lynch. --JHuyt: Still haven't responded, so my original case on him still stands. Strong FoS, and if he continues to lurk I may consider changing my vote to him to guarantee a no-lynch. Right now though, my top lynch target is Thrawn. From the first massively WIFOM Serial Killer post, to the WIFOM on Policy, YH, and Solarsail, to his soft defense of Ochrow against Z-Boson--all of this smells extremely scummy. Scum have to look like they're active, scum have to stay alive, and scum have to help each other. Thrawn's posting behavior fits all three motives to a T. Lynch Thrawn. Thrawn just said it. Pony thread. I'm not going to elaborate because they are far, far outside the context of this thread save that they happened. I don't believe Jhuyt is innocent. I just don't have enough reason to put together a case based on his lack of posting so far. To whatever extent you choose to interpret he was defending me, I agree that is suspicious. I do concede that the effect of my earlier posting was causing thread derailment and was not perhaps the intended effect, but it did generate this current discussion which contains specific positions and evidence from a number of people that will be very useful in future so I wouldn't agree it was all bad. -- I believe I already unvoted Shady but looks like it didn't count so: ##Unvote That implies nothing about my current opinion of Shady which will be in my next post shortly. | ||
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I was never completely satisfied by his explanation of jumping on me second post to stimulate discussion, nor persisting with it. The encouragement of baseless voting is another strike there for me. None of his suspicions have had sufficient evidence for On Thrawn: If Mafia he is playing a clever game presenting very well reasoned arguments with evidence, quite in contrast to Shady. I quite understand his previous position on Archrun as well, lynching semi-lurkers who have not contributed to discussion with their posting. But Archrun has now posted enough so that lynching him on that basis is unacceptable. However Thrawn and Shady are getting at each other, which is very interesting. I am satisfied with the defences Thrawn has posted of soft defending me and of being independent from Ochrow's weak argument when FoSing Archrun. People have yet to point out a damning flaw in his arguments. Here's the summary of the Thrawn case: 1) Lots of soft-defenses of multiple players through the first half of D1 2) Jumping on the Archrun train with poor justification ("non-contributing lurker") 3) Chainsawing a neutral player (Z-Boson) for attacking the player who he used to justify the Archrun FoS (Ochrow) 4) Continuing to FoS Archrun even after he posted content, sheeping Ochrow, the same player who he was defending against Z-Boson 5) Coordinating *all* his reads with Ochrow (including the ones on YH and Solar, the two other contentious players in the game) 6) Threatening to OMGUS lynch me if I don't reread his defense and reconsider my accusations against him (based off the exact opposite justifications that he used to accuse Archrun) 7) OMGUS voting me anyhow On the basis that Thrawn hasn't done much wrong, this post is unacceptable. 1), 2), 4), 5) have been adequately defending and for Shady to act like they have not been is not moving discussion forward. He should be attacking Thrawn's words and not his actions. [QUOTE]In addition to Thrawn, I'm open to a D1 lynch on Ochrow, or JHuyt if that's what it takes to defeat a no-lynch.[QUOTE] [QUOTE]Vote Thrawn2112, FoS Ochrow. Everyone just do it.[QUOTE] This is also a big mistake. Being happy about lynching someone with little evidence is not town behaviour. If he was still focused on a single target and proving it that would be great, but he needs to lay out a greater case for the other two than what he has. Particularly the Ochrow coordination case is very weak, the Archrun things look independent to me and the reaction to Z-boson's interpretation post was more informational, it needed to be corrected immediately so the thread didn't derail on a misunderstood syntax. ##Vote Shady Sands Can't shake the feeling that Thrawn has set Shady up as his own worst enemy and Shady is just playing very badly to fall in. DarthPunk is my strongest Town read this far and he is saying the opposite. But I have had so many problems with Shady this game, and while Thrawn is not off my radar I can't ignore this. | ||
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That is very strong. I would like to see Thrawn defend that. Now that DP's argument is there in full with evidence, the line "mkfuba07, after reading my post do you agree with my claim that YH is town? If not, why not?" is really, really out of place. | ||
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Golbat your explanation better follow very, very quickly. | ||
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On August 17 2012 08:10 YourHarry wrote: My strong town read on Thrawn is confirmed by Archrun's recent post stating that exactly Thrawn or Shady are scum. I don't know how he arrived at this conclusion. While it is unlikely that they are bussing each other as scums, how to exclude the possibility that they are both towns? I would like recruit people to support a lynch against Archrun. Archrun flipping scum likely means that Thrawn and Shady (Thrawn, especially) are probably town. I would be prepared to swap to Archrun, but I don't want to unvote quite yet in case Thrawn is accidentally lynched, since the Archrun route implies Thrawn is town. | ||
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It doesn't. But a vote for Archrun would be accompanied by an assumption Thrawn IS town, or none of Archrun/Thrawn's posts make sense. Anyway I decided I shouldn't make an impulse switch and we don't have time to argue this out with all participants. | ||
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I'm less convinced on YourHarry since there is no direct link and I had a soft town read from yesterday, but there's two good candidates right there. Lol Thrawn your vigilante claim is ridiculous. Vigilantes do not reveal that they are vigilantes over such a trivial matter as defending themselves, as the role is so powerful that scum have no choice but to kill you immediately. ##Vote: Thrawn ##FoS: Ochrow | ||
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##Vote Thrawn | ||
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On August 18 2012 10:31 thrawn2112 wrote: Why would I have a reason to not reveal myself as Vig? After using my 1 bullet my role is worthless and I have nothing to gain from hiding it. Therefore claiming to defend myself is not ridiculous, because I have no reason to keep it a secret anymore. Sorry, I thought it was always multiple bullets, didn't check OP. But we also have to believe your claim it was conveniently 1 bullet. | ||
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On August 18 2012 15:29 DarthPunk wrote: These lurkers are really hurting us by the way. Afaik we have five votes for Thrawn (could be wrong) and zero for anyone else. No one except the Thrawn and YH have argued against GK's scenario usefully, and the vig claim is the most desperate thing this game in my view. Thus I'm OK with the status quo. I'm still reading the thread and trying to construct a case for myself why GK might be wrong,since Thrawn and YH are doing a poor job at doing it themselves. Requesting vote count | ||
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I agree with much of gk's posting minus the initial shared QT accusation because that is unlikely to have produced the coincidental posts with the same agenda. The lying to us, lurking, nonaggression and general avoidance of Ochrow/Obvious stands out a lot more (oh and the OMGUS vote) and YH has demonstrated some serious read errors and flip flops if he is indeed town. So my case against Thrawn is mostly by association with YH and Ochrow than directly. I will keep my vote on him because it is a combined one from gk's case and thrawn's individual behaviour. However /unlike/ GK I will not switch around as people's defences go up and down with each post. I will be around at the deadline but I don't plan to switch. The lurkers simply have not posted enough to make any case as strong as vs Thrawn or vs Obvious so I can't justify voting for them instead of those two. This is possibly by design; if so they are lucky that D1 was intense and D2 was focused on a single case to avoid attention. | ||
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I see we've ditched logic in favour of the impassioned rant. Obvious, that is the worst deliberate post in this thread. You still didn't respond to the thrawn case, or any ongoing case except yourself. No one is expecting you to defend Ochrow's every word, you're responding to a threat that doesn't exist and you're not even up for lynch so I can't call it desperation. You claimed town. Why would you even do that. You're actually blaming Ochrow ('maybe he banned himself'). However those bad posts form part of your record, so with the information you have you can do a LOT more than simply throw your hands up. You mentioned a QT to deny it. Everyone had given up on QT based speculation, why would you bring it back in? You continued to OMGUS attack goodkarma, when he has been asking only for the kind of info everyone needs from you as a replacement player. | ||
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On August 20 2012 07:36 Stutters695 wrote: Additionally due to YH's activeness a flip gives us additional information, especially if he's scum. By the same reasoning an Obvious/Ochrow lynch if no one gets behind YH. That is not a reason to vote, it shouldn't be part of your argument. Flipping people for info is not a good plan when three town players died on the first night. Make sure your case that YH is mafia stands on its own as. | ||
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So here's what I'm going to do. I will vote Obvious, and then right before deadline I will vote Thrawn UNLESS I can ensure an Obvious lynch by sticking. Anyone who changes vote right before deadline without a pre-existing read of that person being scum I am going to take as mafia manipulation. ##Vote Obvious.660 | ||
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I am having second thoughts about Thrawn. What a surprise. Scum YH has a good motivation for this: be accused as one of the three, bus Thrawn to save yourself when the case against you looks strong, and backtrack on that close to deadline when he's about to be lynched and people are talking about switching. | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:17 YourHarry wrote: That is not the reason for my switch, but I understand your suspicion. I can't move my vote for now because if I do, I will be lynched. You can move your vote with an even stronger case on someone else. I encourage you to do so because your initial vote against Thrawn wasn't with much evidence. | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:27 YourHarry wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Jhyut Justification? | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:36 YourHarry wrote: @GK Never mind. I will go read your case again. @Solar, my brief explanation is in the post before my vote. Ah didn't see, thanks. | ||
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.............................. @self 1. Make your own reads, not those of others 2. Don't trust your own reads, ever 3. Wow you're a terrible player | ||
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So it's really just a question of your read on gk. If you think he's town, vote for Golbat. If you think he's not, vote for GK. If GK and DP are mafia then wp because they've been nothing but active and helpful (and terribly wrong yesterday). I haven't done nearly enough independent work, and it's hurt me because I've been taken in by bad logic following others, but ultimately it's a lesson learned. I don't even think Golbat is the greatest lynch candidate ever because lurking is a often a null tell but I'm seeing that it's come down to the choice I said. I'd go with Obvious myself but I don't even trust any reads I have after D1 and D2. ##Vote: Golbat | ||
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Current read fwiw is Town: Goodkarma, Darthpunk, Z-boson No idea: Stutters Anti-town play: Golbat, Obvious, YourHarry | ||
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On August 23 2012 08:10 goodkarma wrote: TL;DR: One last time: we don't have the time to vote switch. You do if you all verbally agree that you'd do it at 10 minutes to, and anyone that didn't would be immediately voted at 5 minutes to. IRC mafia decisions can be done in much less time with everyone there. | ||
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My play today was weak sheeping because I believed we had pretty much lost. I wasn't trying to put together a case of my own because it came down to whether goodkarma was right or not. Today I will be more active and more independent. | ||
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The full explanation for my D1 behaviour is that I have quit my only other mafia game in the past early, because at the beginning of D1 where the only substance is the "hello" posts and people kick off with wild accusations I feel pressured to post minimally and safely to not get called out. As it turns, out, the most minimal and safe behaviour is not to post at all, so I quit the game entirely rather than try. So I adopted a strategy to prevent that, which is to be so outrageous that I either get lynched immediately or established as pro-town for a long period of time. Now the flaw with this is that it is not a pro-town strategy (even less so than I imagined) because causes such confusion that everyone actively involved with it (thrawn and Shady) except myself got lynched based on their D1 reaction to it. Now, for my behaviour on subsequent days, I had a completely wrong read on thrawn and Shady because of that and I was working to get them lynched /because they were active/, essentially. In Shady's case because he was getting at me and thrawn because he was defending me. All of this was of course useless information and their very activity in itself was a town tell. They were always there to respond and push cases and true mafia just cannot keep that up; this was more important than their small scumtells everyone jumped on. My votes for Shady and Thrawn, despite their timing, were independent reads and still based ENTIRELY on my D1 feeling, instead of keeping up with filters as much as I should have. When I was "sheeping", I was actually surprised that everyone was leaning towards shady and thrawn but for different reasons, so I referenced them in my post but I didn't agree with what was being written about them either way, I didn't even really check, which ends up giving the appearence of trying to fit in. I wasn't paying enough attention. Today, as I've explained, I felt goodkarma was the only hope of the town not dying so I was prepared to do exactly what he was doing and the outcome would either be a revived town chance or death, but at least death would be a good chance to do-over without the above mistakes in a new game. The reason I wasn't posting was that I felt I couldn't affect the outcome but it had the effect of making me look like I wasn't responding to criticism or posting my reads. In conclusion I don't protest the allegations in your post but I'm giving you the specific motivations behind them. | ||
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goodkarma and Obvious I will respond to your posts (and if Obvious has anything from my filter) tomorrow, as in still during night. Since I am likely up as a lynch candidate, mafia wouldn't kill me anyway so I don't need to wait for day before saying stuff. | ||
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My Obvious read is by elimination of gk, dp and z-boson. My town reads on /them/ are based on specific posts even I can't remember, the context is just gone when I look through filters for them. I have no idea about stutters so it's his filter I'm going through. Obvious could not be more defensive about Ochrow's posting so it's WIFOM all the way down and I'm just going off the agreed tells of Ochrow and his lack of posting. dp I see my defence post made absolutely no impact on you so I don't see much point in continuing arguing to you. | ||
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On August 23 2012 23:59 goodkarma wrote: I'm sorry, but what you've posted doesn't cut it. I thought you'd say that. | ||
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I thought Golbat was an auto-modkill up until this page, didn't see he came back briefly. Golbat on YH: YourHarry, I don't know what to think about you. You always post like you have dain bramage, so the only "meta" I can pick up from you is that you're playing in this game. That being said, your "mason theory" is understandable, and i'm willing to give you a pass for sounding kind of scummy, provided you don't pull anything like that again. Not liking the implications of "giving you a pass..." followed up by ##FoS YourHarry His play has been the flippiest and the floppiest. That usually means intentionally sowing confusion in the thread, as people have to follow his logic back and forth to make any sense of what he says. I thought he gave him a pass? There's no accusation of some specific new behaviour to justify reversing the earlier statement. | ||
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On August 24 2012 07:52 Z-BosoN wrote: Like I said, if you dismiss my post as WIFOM, then you must dismiss the argument that "A scum boson would definitely do this and want us to think this" as WIFOM as well. Otherwise it becomes just bias, you are seeing just what you want to see. You're correct, that would be biased deduction. But that's not what happened. The arguments of the two posts against you have been: Goodkarma: "Z-Boson's scummy behavior is related to the last minute vote switch request" Obvious: "The guy who has been laying into YH the entire game has a change of heart just before the deadline." Those aren't "A scum Boson would be doing X". Those are, "Boson's behaviour here and here is scummy". Please give town motivations for the listed behaviour. | ||
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There is a very big difference between the two statements in your last paragraph. I think this is a logical error on your part and you need to reread them a few times. The first is stating a fact supported by some evidence in the thread, and the second is a hypothetical argument making a number of unverifiable assumptions. We are still in the gathering phase, whereby people are actively finding new evidence and writing them up. Instead of answering every little post against you, you would be better served finding more evidence on me, or finding other targets for your list. | ||
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On August 24 2012 08:31 DarthPunk wrote: One question would ask SOLAR? You tried to alter the vote at the last minute whilst you were the other leading candidate. Who would you have voted for and why? if we had decided to not vote for YH. solarsail wrote: You do if you all verbally agree that you'd do it at 10 minutes to, and anyone that didn't would be immediately voted at 5 minutes to. IRC mafia decisions can be done in much less time with everyone there. I was stating it would be possible to change the vote at that time. I intended to vote for whoever goodkarma was voting for. This is also why I changed to YH with no reason given, I actually had no good read on him and was leaving it to players with a better handle on his posts to decide whether he was scum. If I hadn't committed to following gk I would have voted Obvious because of the existing arguments about Ochrow plus his overreaction to being asked to explain Ochrow's motivation. Due to his more recent posting, Obvious is no longer a strong candidate to me and I will revisit his filter within the next hour. | ||
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After his initial reaction to being pressured on Ochrow's posts immediately after joining, his actions have been consistent and, importantly, proactive. - He first delivers a case on me, before DP does, that makes sense (points out an inconsistency of mine) and is different to what DP talks about - He switches to YH because he agrees with the case on him and has it about the same strength as on me, but YH has more support to be lynched and YH's posting would be a continued threat to the town if left alive. He's still up for lynching me so this is a justified change. - He picks up GK's Z-boson and Golbat because they were on his earlier scum list, although that earlier list was unjustified and was just a list of names. He hasn't flopped on anyone since the start. I'm satisfied that Obvious is behaving much less scummy than previously. | ||
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
On August 24 2012 09:41 DarthPunk wrote: Z - Boson what is your position on Golbat? as I have stated eariler I feel he is most likely just an inactive townie. I would Like ever yones position on him. Other than mine and Goodkarma's reads on him by association with YH and Z-boson, his filter is so short that I don't think it's possible to make other scum reads. If town is back a good position now we should consider lynching lurkers again because we neglected to do this earlier. | ||
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
Thus Z-Boson is lying and I am forced to ##Vote Z-BosoN | ||
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Solarsail
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However based on my earlier post: + Show Spoiler + On August 24 2012 05:51 Solarsail wrote: Golbat on YH: Not liking the implications of "giving you a pass..." followed up by I thought he gave him a pass? There's no accusation of some specific new behaviour to justify reversing the earlier statement. and others' arguments (his filter is so short that not much else is possible), I agree Golbat is a good lynch candidate and if I can't get more support for Z-Boson I am prepared to vote for him if needed (in a close situation). Presumably Z-Boson will vote DP and hence Golbat is set lynched as it stands. Requesting vote count | ||
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
2. Thus either I or him are scum 3. I am prepared to be lynched in order to implicate Z-Boson and will self-vote to do so if necessary. If anyone knows of a way (I would be not have been informed) AND (Z-boson is not lying) please inform me as that is essential to my plan. | ||
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Solarsail
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I'll be playing better next game. | ||
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