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PTP3 - Pikachu's Revenge

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heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 10 2012 06:05 GMT
#25
/in
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 17 2012 03:09 GMT
#174
What is the KP typing for double-typed pokemon such as Lapras (water/ice)? Do they just pick an attacking KP each time? Or will the typing be mixed, i.e Lapras doing neutral to fires.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 20 2012 09:53 GMT
#369
Am I missing something here? The amount of KP in this game has nothing to do with the type distribution. If someone felt like giving someone a KP, they got it. Simple as that. So yeah, Drazerk's plan: silly.

Is he scum? I don't remain convinced. The big argument against him essentially boils down to meta that Drazerk won't be serious if he's town. Color me unimpressed. Also, if I was Venusaur, without a doubt I'd charge that Solarbeam, town or not. Who wants to remain vanilla when you've got a solar beam? Also, tracking KP roles and outing your own KP roles are not the same.

Obbbbviously grush is the key to this first day. See who targets Grush (he's always an easy target to attack. He'll seem scummy, town or mafia.) That person is either a townie who has never played with him or mafia wanting someone easy. Or not. Or yes.

So jinglehell... any other thoughts on anyone else?
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 20 2012 21:13 GMT
#430
personally I'm inclined to kill anyone who wants to die
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 20 2012 21:16 GMT
#434
On August 21 2012 06:15 Chezinu wrote:
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On August 21 2012 06:13 heist wrote:
personally I'm inclined to kill anyone who wants to die

Just so you know, I don't want to die! lol


not you. dirk
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 20 2012 21:39 GMT
#442
On August 20 2012 09:32 Zephirdd wrote:
also unless someone was an asshole and made a vanilla role, everyone is a blue. Well, except for those who aren't. I'm looking for you.


Why are you looking for vanilla townies?

On August 21 2012 06:20 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 21 2012 06:18 Chezinu wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:16 Kurumi wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:13 heist wrote:
personally I'm inclined to kill anyone who wants to die

Then help me and kill me

It's a trap! Kurumi could be one of those pocket monsters that shoots back what ever you throw at him!

Yeah it is a trap I wanted to check if heist really has the power

I wouldn't use it on you even if I did. And I certainly wouldn't want to kill grush right now.


- 3 people so far on the 'Kill Grush' list: jingle hell, VE, mementoss
Tell me why? Reasons so far: 1. meta 2. troll reason 3. I agree 4. I agree too.

- 2 people so far on the 'Kill Me' list: dirk, Kurumi.
Dirk still suicidal?
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 21 2012 19:09 GMT
#683
VE, I'm still highly suspicious of you. I still maintain that your policy lynch is still terrible. It also bothers me that you act like you are "giving up". And if you've stayed like that I'd be voting for you, but you have been quite the busy bee right now. And I think the dirk lynch has merit.

He calls people out for a trolly, terrible first half to Day 1. Yet he does NOTHING to really help and even contributes more to the trolling atmosphere. He has a weak opinion on Drazerk. And I agree, it does look like space filler.

He agrees with the case on imallinson. He even contributes another point to his scumminess, but spends the rest of his tunneling VE for essentially voting for him without enough support as he would like. Seems like someone who is much more concerned for themselves rather than lynching the correct candidate.

##vote: dirksor
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 21 2012 19:09 GMT
#684
i mean dirkzor
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 22 2012 01:07 GMT
#732
On August 22 2012 09:46 bumatlarge wrote:
Meh, allinson seemed pretty obvious not to go for him. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a decent portion of the scum team not voting him. Dirk's alignment would be pretty enlightening.

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On August 22 2012 01:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Cool well I've taken damage. It wasn't very effecitve.


If I could shed some light on this? I'm not meowth (nor did I make the role), but since it was a normal type move, VE has to be a Rock type if he's telling the truth, which I think he is. There are about 10 rock types, so unless VE is multi-typed, I think it's fairly obvious for mafia to figure out that he is probably a Vet. If he was a ghost type, I'd imagine the ability would have never worked.

In the future, if you are told a hit on you is super-effective or not, you should think about saying it publicly. If a mafia member picked a rock-type's role, he probably knows what VE does. That's my stab at it.

Speaking of STAB,
[image loading].

This game will get fun


VE stated that he did not mean "not very effective" in the pokemon sense of the phrase. Only that it didn't kill him. Also, anyone can be a Veteran. There's no real limit to what abilities were given.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 23 2012 03:31 GMT
#941
i feel so weak
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 23 2012 15:46 GMT
#987
i still think dirk is a good lynch. not only did toad soft defend him, the main proponent of his lynch is now dead.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 23 2012 15:55 GMT
#990
If this was a Mafia shot:

1. It kills BC who wants to lynch Wiggles or dirk.

2. What else does it do? makes the lynch on Mattchew stronger. If Mattchew was mafia, they wouldn't feel threatened with BC voting someone other than Mattchew. Leads me to believe Mattchew is town IF THIS WAS A SCUM VIG.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 24 2012 19:20 GMT
#1195
sorry. first day of the semester was yesterday. reading now. so much reading..
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 24 2012 19:26 GMT
#1203
If you guys are contemplating switching off of Mattchew, why are you pursuing hopeless if his scum slip was defending Mattchew?
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#1229
Along with hopeless1der's defense of Mattchew, I looked through his filter for anything else.

He seems oddly concerned with the roles and actively tries to pursue an agenda of revealing the potential roles in the game. However, he is very hesitant in his approaches in both cases and lacks conviction. Why bring it up unless you were hoping to garner support for an unpopular plan? One that is far more risky for town than mafia.

On August 21 2012 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On August 21 2012 07:39 imallinson wrote:
I've been out all day so I apologise for not posting earlier.

One thing I noticed, between the spam, is a hell of a lot of role discussion, talk about kp, etc. I think everyone has missed a very important point in all this. These are pokemon we are dealing with and last I checked most of them have more than one power. Because this is PTP it wouldn't surprise me if most people did have more than one power. Add to that the fact that all the role talk has been about standard mafia roles it seems like no one is really thinking outside the box on the roles. The real question is do they think it's the case a not talking about it for strategic reasons. I'm not a fan of misdirection in mafia from a town perspective because it normally only serves to make scum hunting harder.


Most roles can be equated to standard mafia roles.

You can deal KP? Your a vig role.
You can protect? medic role.
You can edit your posts? Okay, this one doesn't exist.

Short of everyone claiming what role they created (Which might be useful, but a great way for scum to fuck with us), we have to use terms that everyone else will understand. Once we get through a round of Night actions, (assuming decon\greymist use the ability names) we'd be able to refer to specifics.


Can you say wishy-washy? Hints that everyone role claiming "might be useful". But then mitigates his support for mass role claims with the statement that "scum can fuck with us".

On August 22 2012 14:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Okay first off, why is discussion stopped at night? I get that in a regular mafia game this is the norm, but I was under the impression that it was due to scum having NK'ing ability and town having limited to no NK abilities. Is this wrong somehow? Or do people really think that town doesn't have KP in a PTP game?


So, since the thread is dead on scumhunting, is anyone up for discussing role creation?

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On August 22 2012 01:58 deconduo wrote:
On August 21 2012 16:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I might have missed it, but are we allowed to divulge information about the roles we created? Can we claim what we made or reveal role mechanics? Thanks.


Yes, as soon as one Pokemon has been killed and flipped.

Diglett killed and flipped, so free game right? I will note the following:
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On August 21 2012 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
To the above plan

I made a role that kinda hard brakes claiming what we made roles for so lets never ever do that.

So...until Drazerk is willing to explain wtf he did, I'm guessing we do nothing other than debate the merits of "knowing" what's out there. Note I am NOT ADVOCATING ROLE CLAIMS. I'm saying that if we are to do anything, it would be say something like "I picked for pokemon and gave it such and such ability(ies)"
I don't necessarily know what I would do with this information, but as long as we don't get too caught up in role discussions, I think town is better off with as much info as we can generate.
Again - Drazerk has said doing this will break the game somehow, so please do not actually reveal anything until he has responded.


Aside from that, my strongest read is Zephirdd, and not just for his vote against me. If need be I'll get that together sooner, but it looks like I should save it for the deadline.

And yes, I've skipped the part where I throw out a shitty defense for my ninja vote. My play was poor and I am deservedly under suspicion for it. Being legitimately active is going to go much further in changing people's opinions of me than trying to defend myself right now.

I'll be around for a half hour or so before bed.


Another mention of role creation and again tries to put out feelers for outing all potential roles, not necessarily our own. He sees no real need for this information, ("I don't necessarily know what to do with this information") but still maintains its for the town benefit.

Again, were you in support of this at that time or not? Why bring it up repeatedly? You mention role reveals, but provide no concrete benefits, only vague statements such as "It might be useful to town" & "town is better off".
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 24 2012 20:51 GMT
#1255
This is just silly. if you're telling us the truth, you not only used your vig shot after an unsatisfactory Day 1 (learn some patience) but on someone who you don't even mention or make a case on?

bye you're getting lynched.
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