EPTIf it was all up to you, who would we lynch today? Custos/prphlz/risk.nuke? Did anything I say about CL make you want to reconsider your vote on him?
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sciberbia
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If it was all up to you, who would we lynch today? Custos/prphlz/risk.nuke? Did anything I say about CL make you want to reconsider your vote on him? | ||
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On August 12 2012 09:17 Keirathi wrote: @Scib: I think the ideal lynch target today is prplhz. As much as I was completely wtf boggled at CL, you were right, it really doesn't make a lot of sense for him as scum to call that kind of attention to himself. I disagree with some of your other points in your defense of him (ie the "correct read on forumite" - of course scum would know he was town and could soft defend him as well...and the DYH case is a complete null-tell...scum make cases that they don't push quite frequently in my experience), but overall I think I feel less confident in a lynch on Cl than I do prplhz. ##Unvote ##Vote: prplhz Excellent! OK let's just forgot about my points with the DYH case and Forumite read... nobody seems to like those and I admit they are minor points at best. I'm glad you agree with my more important points. Anyway, I'm still quite suspicious of HiroPro/slOosh/prplhz/risk.nuke. It's really a question of which is the worst: HiroPro: lurks. states RL issue. lurks some more slOosh: lurks. gives reason for lurking. is in thread but not much presence. fairly under the radar. prplhz: lurks. says he will stop lurking. proceeds to lurk. risk.nuke: clearly doesn't give a shit. And doesn't give a shit that everyone knows he doesn't give a shit From most suspicious to least suspicious, I think it is HiroPro & prplhz, followed by risk.nuke, followed by slOosh, based on what little reads I can make from their filters. So I am quite happy with a prplhz lynch today. As I said, I think it makes sense to lynch him before HiroPro. I hope enough people (looking at Mordanis, slOosh, DYH) will reconsider on CL such that we can lynch prplhz instead. My main issues with prplhz are as follows: -- with the exception of Mad Men, he does clearly seem to care more as town than as scum -- he only became active yesterday when under threat of lynch -- even in his all activity, all he really did was defend himself and insist on the Forumite counterwagon -- he promised to contribute today, but still hasn't done anything -- I'm quite suspicious of HiroPro as well, and I think HiroPro is only likely to be scum if prplhz is as well ##Vote prplhz | ||
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sciberbia
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What the hell is going on with you? After an active D1, you haven't posted in like 48 hours. Care to comment on either the CL or the prplhz wagons? | ||
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Custos Luna(3): Mordanis, DYH, risk.nuke prplhz(3): CL, Keirathi, sciberbia not voted: HiroPro, Shiaopi, prplhz, slOosh Every vote really matters here. I urge everyone to strongly consider voting prplhz over CL. I don't think any other lynch is really on the table at this point. | ||
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On August 12 2012 10:04 Keirathi wrote: Vote count? lol that was quite the ninja | ||
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PM me both prplhz's and CL's roles. Then I will make the deadline post for you depending on who gets lynched. I'll even write the flavor for you :p In all seriousness, are you saying the flip will be more than 13 hours from now? Do you know approximately when it will be? | ||
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On August 12 2012 12:02 Bluelightz wrote: Deadline done. Prplhz and CL lynched flip a bit later, Wait wtf. BLUELIGHTZ THE DEADLINE IS NOT FOR 12 MORE HOURS. DON'T FLIP PEOPLE YET | ||
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thought i should make this more clear.. | ||
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Have you thought any more about prplhz and CL? How likely do you think each of them is to be scum? Will you be leaving your vote on CL or are you open to switching? | ||
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sciberbia
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This is a tricky situation, but I think prplhz is the smartest lynch. I've changed my mind slightly about the first quote. I think that if prplhz is town, HiroPro is likely town as well, since as I explain in the second quote, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for scum HiroPro to make a dubious vote switch from one townie to another. Of course, if prplhz is scum, HiroPro's vote switch looks very suspicious, and HiroPro is likely scum as well. What I'm saying in the third quote is that I find it unlikely that HiroPro is scum and prplhz is town. This is basically a repeat of what I've said above. Since I think the least likely scenario is that HiroPro is scum and prplhz is town, I'm looking at these three scenarios: HiroPro town. prplhz town. HiroPro town. prplhz scum. HiroPro scum. prplhz scum So the most likely way I can see for HiroPro to be scum is if prplhz is also scum. Additionally, I think it's possible that prplhz is scum but HiroPro is town (although at this point I think I'd be very willing to lynch HiroPro tomorrow if prplhz flips scum). Therefore, to maximize our chance of hitting scum today, we should lynch prplhz. Does that make sense to you or do you see flaws in my logic? | ||
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Yes I'd be interested to hear your other reasons on HiroPro. My only real beef with him apart from his vote switch and his lurking is how he goes from saying nothing at all about CL from confidently asserting that CL is scum based on 1 post. And he appeals to 'vet knowledge' in his case against CL, which I think is scummy. I think it only makes any sense to lynch HiroPro today if you think it is quite possible that HiroPro is scum but that prplhz is town. Do you think this is likely? Do you really see HiroPro making that vote switch in this scenario? | ||
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sciberbia
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Point taken. We shouldn't completely rule out the possibility that HiroPro is scum and prplhz is town. Still, I think the overall chance that prplhz is scum is marginally greater than the overall chance that HiroPro is scum, so I'm staying on prplhz. @DYH I'm still interested to hear what's going through your mind right now. I'll be playing some starcraft for the next hour or several. | ||
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I wouldn't describe prplhz as "so scummy". It's not like there is enough in his filter to even get a good scumread off of. It's just that none of the active players look scummy to me right now, so I think we should lynch into the lurkers. prplhz has done literally nothing this game to make me think he is town. If you suggest another player that you find scummy, I'd be happy to evaluate your case (although I think it's a bit late for a new candidate today). reasons prplhz is my preferred lynch over other lurkers On August 12 2012 09:39 sciberbia wrote: My main issues with prplhz are as follows: -- with the exception of Mad Men, he does clearly seem to care more as town than as scum -- he only became active yesterday when under threat of lynch -- even in his all activity, all he really did was defend himself and insist on the Forumite counterwagon -- he promised to contribute today, but still hasn't done anything -- I'm quite suspicious of HiroPro as well, and I think HiroPro is only likely to be scum if prplhz is as well | ||
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I think that the extent to which prplhz has not cared about this game is suspicious in light of his meta. I looked at the two games Hiro referenced, in addition to a couple of games where prplhz was town, and he looked clearly more invested in the games where he was town. Shiao at least has a lot of activity yesterday that we can judge him for. We've discussed Hiro vs prplhz a lot. risk.nuke I haven't looked at all that closely, but there are 1 or 2 things in his filter that give me a townie feel, so I find him slightly less suspicious than Hiro/prplhz. You seem to be expressing discontent with a lynch on prplhz, but you also do not seem very confident that CL is scum, and you are not suggesting another candidate. Who would you most like to lynch right now? | ||
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On phone now. Busy for next 12 hours or so Nice lynch guys | ||
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gg and good luck town obs QT please | ||
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Sloosh I was suspicious of because he was so under the radar. I felt like nobody was spending much time in his filter because he didn't give us a good reason to (kudos to him). I thought the death of me was great evidence against him once risk.nuke and HiroPro flipped town. Because I don't know why scum would have wanted me dead if sloosh was also town. Like I'd have just been leading town in all the wrong directions if I were alive D3 and sloosh was town. And they definitely risked a doc save to kill me. DYH I never saw coming. I dont think any of us did, so we really didn't have a chance. He was one of the few players I didn't do any meta research on. Perhaps that would have helped... Reasons I thought he was town: Nearly getting prplhz lynched D1 His whole thought-of-in-the-shower case against CL Being willing to back off a decent case on CL to kill prplhz I think I constantly overvalue the correctness of people's reads and the amount of help they were in lynching known scum towards determining their alignment. Really gotta stop doing that.. Also @keirathi I noticed your sharing-brain comment in irc with marv. I had the exact same feeling lol. Read the obs qt where I had a dream in which you were a mod confirmed super mason. Playing town with you was quite fun. Felt like I always had someone to confirm what I was thinking or let me know if I was misguided. Hope to do it again sometime And @marv Well you were killed partially as a blue snipe so hopefully you can forgive me for my analysis. Hope to play town with you sometime where you make it past N1. I always think "damn if only marv were alive he'd know what to do right now". Probably why u get killed in the first place lol | ||
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If I ever roll scum, I want DYH on my team. Potential hosts, please take note. | ||
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