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xsebt - DT talismania - miller toad - town mason jinglehell - town mason VE - scum mason hassybaby - scum mason (?) BKE - scum goon Count Dropula - scum godfather (Sinensis smurf - has to be someone who played with zeph in NMM II) hier - scum goon I think I know who the vig is as well but I won't say. __________ I say we lynch VE and have xsebt check BKE. If neither comes up red, lynch me tomorrow. | ||
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On August 09 2012 21:58 talismania wrote: Medics: LISTEN TO ME DEAR GOD lol. That said, the NKs are fairly illuminating. Especially solstice - he was killed primarily because he's a good townie and he was correct about VE. Solstice and I were interchangeable for those purposes, but I am spared because VE is committed to getting me mislynched (a reasonable play given that he thinks he can rely on xsebt and synystyr's votes if they're town). His push on zephirdd is there because he knows there's support for it from dropula at least I guess. Who the mafia are: VE hassybaby BKE other two are somewhere in hier, glasse, dropula, synystyr I think. My bet is hier glasse at the moment. _________________ In response to VE: He set a trap by not talking about zephirdd? Ok... I'm just following up on anything and everything you say because I think you're scum. You said you were going to look at him again, therefore I wanted to know if you followed through on that as scum tend not to. I don't know zeph's alignment for sure but I do lean town. _________________ VisceraEyes is scum. (A) He makes lazy cases that are unresearched. Not just against me, but also against erandorr and against zephirdd. Read what I wrote about his case on me yesterday. (B) He REFUSED TO KEEP IN CONTACT VIA PMs WITH SOMEONE (1) AND HE THOUGHT THAT THAT PERSON WAS SCUM (2). Let me expand on that further - so you're a townie in VE's shoes. You think maybe I'm scum and that I'm connected with zephirdd. Therefore you set a trap... by refusing to talk to me about zephirdd???? Why, if I'm scum, do I keep haranguing a townie to find out what his read is on my scumbuddy??????????? Why the fuck would I care about that if I were scum? Especially because in that scenario, I'm trying to lynch the guy I'm haranguing. So why would I give a shit about how good his reads are on other people in my scum team? Why would I call attention to that? No. If you're townie, and you're a mason, and you suspect that the guy you're masoned with is scum you PRESS him. You don't set traps by NOT talking about a potential scumbuddy of your target. You re-engage. Ask questions. To hammer this point home: WHY STOP TALKING TO SOMEONE YOU THINK IS SCUM? How can that possibly help? VE isn't afraid of being manipulated, I know that. So why, after he switches back to thinking I'm scum, does he show no interest in talking anymore? (C) I just realized that VE accidentally might have just trapped himself with this zephirdd thing. To explain: he is claiming that he ignored my questions about zephirdd because he thought I was scum, and wanted to see what happened. Let's look at the first assertion he makes: + Show Spoiler + Our whole conversation was about zephirdd? Please. Firstly: If by this you mean "after some negligible small talk about irc and skype", the course of our conversation was this: You: what do you think about erandorr Me: I'm looking into him but think he's town for the most part. You: yeah here's why I think eran is scum. also here are my other scumreads, which I'm giving to you completely UNPROMPTED. Me: Oh, I'd like to hear more about that zephirdd guy since you mentioned him earlier in the thread as well. How the hell do you go from that to getting that the entire conversation was building up to me asking about zephirdd? It wasn't. VE brought zephirdd's name up, unprompted. Not me. It gets better though. My follow-up question about zephirdd was sent on August 7, 8:29. His reply about giving him some time to get home came August 7, 12:47. Then my follow up question since he didn't say anything in that reply about zeph, then he goes cold in PMs. Despite this, he makes the following post in the thread: He's also posted that he's done in PMs. So he thinks I'm wrong town - yet when I ask him to just follow up on his read about zephirdd (after this post) he does nothing as a trap? How does that make sense? Like imagine you're a townie, and you think a wrong townie is on your case, possibly putting you in danger of being lynched. You ignore their questions? By the way, AFTER all those quotes of me asking about zephirdd he makes the following post addressed to me: Indicating that, at the very least, he still leans town on me. So during that entire period of ignoring my follow-up question to something he brought up he did not actually have a scumread on me. This "trap" was made up after the fact. It wasn't until after the lynch that he PMs me, saying that I "fooled" him and he was onto me and all that. (D) VE has very few doubts. In general, townies are unsure about their scumreads. Read through all of VE's scumreads. He's never uncertain. I don't know his meta on this point but at the very least I consider this a weak scumtell. ##Vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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On August 10 2012 10:13 Hier wrote: Talis, or we can lynch you today, after Xsebt gets modkilled and flips town DT, sounds good? You kind of assume you are a miller. No, no modkill. Town didn't get the modkill of hassy, you guys don't get the modkill of xsebt. BC has been lenient and fair. My bet is xsebt didn't even know he was breaking the rules. He probably misunderstood how masons work. Lord knows he hasn't been paying that close of attention to the thread. | ||
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On August 10 2012 10:23 Toadesstern wrote: I'm not taking the possibility of you being a miller as a chance. Either he is a mafia who tried he could manipulate me by claiming DT in pms without realizing how masons work, in which case you're town. Or he is a DT and found a mafia when checking you. toad toad TOAD aghgh hahahaha. It's on your shoulders here I think. By the way, can you actually post the PMs? We need to treat this like a public claim, so I'd like to see exactly what he wrote. There's a chance I can actually prove that he's a DT, so this is very important. | ||
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Toad, mason me if you haven't masoned someone already. Toad, post the exact PMs xsebt sent you. There's a small chance they contain a tiny bit of information that proves that he is a DT. | ||
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On August 10 2012 10:13 Hier wrote: Talis, or we can lynch you today, after Xsebt gets modkilled and flips town DT, sounds good? You kind of assume you are a miller. Does this smell incredibly off to anyone else? Like I can't logically put my finger on it but my brain is screaming at me that this is a scumslip or something. Like, if he's saying that xsebt is going to flip town DT, then why does he state after that that I assume I'm a miller? What else do I assume in that case? Like, is he trying to say that I am incorrectly assuming that I'm a miller, and therefore that xsebt is scum? That's the only logical way to interpret those two sentences but I'm fairly sure that's not what he was getting at. | ||
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I can confirm that in my role PM, my character's name is spelled incorrectly as Henry Francais. The actual character is Henry Francis (I think). More importantly, I posted Henry Francis, not Francais in the thread. The only way xsebt would have written Francais is if he is indeed the DT. | ||
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Here's the list of roles in the game, for those who missed it earlier: xsebt - DT talismania - miller toad - town mason jinglehell - town mason VisceraEyes - scum mason hassybaby - scum mason BroodKingEXE - scum goon CountDropula - scum godfather Hier - scum goon If you follow that list, you will win. (Hopefully if I'm wrong I'm not TOO wrong). Toad, they'll probably keep you alive because of how wrong you've been and likely will continue to be. If I can't convince you today then I hope you can swallow your pride and start fresh after I die. Medics, protect xsebt. Xsebt, check BKE first, then hier, then synystyr, then glasse. Marvellosity, Jingle, maybe lazermonkey. You guys will have to be town leaders after I'm dead. Marv I know you're not invested in this game since you weren't in it at the beginning but please try to win it for us. | ||
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On August 10 2012 10:44 talismania wrote: OK XSEBT IS INDEED A DT I can confirm that in my role PM, my character's name is spelled incorrectly as Henry Francais. The actual character is Henry Francis (I think). More importantly, I posted Henry Francis, not Francais in the thread. The only way xsebt would have written Francais is if he is indeed the DT. By the way for those with an open mind out there still, why the fuck would I do what I do in this quoted post if I were scum? LOL | ||
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On August 10 2012 10:56 Hier wrote: Talis, grats on 2k. Thanks, gratz on getting lucky with me being miller. | ||
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Vote VE. If he is not scum, lynch me tomorrow and I will paypal everyone who voted him 20 USD (after the game so as not to break communication rules). | ||
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On August 10 2012 11:01 Hier wrote: Ok so, wait. I must have missed the memo. You think I'm scum purely based on the fact that I think that you being scum is more likely than you being a miller? Because I saw no accusations from you before this point. That kind of makes you look more scummy. Eh you're the one I'm least sure about definitely. It's between you glasse and synystyr. Synystyr is up there with you since he continuously fails his activity standards and hasn't contributed much to the game. I'll rethink things after a break so that I can settle down and give my final reads out for people to follow once I'm dead and flipped. | ||
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