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Okay, I have read through the thread and I will give my thoughts so far.
Palmar is Mafia: He puts out the idea of a random lynch and tries to convince the town to go with it. Random lynches are a bad idea, yes there are a lot of mafia but there are more townies. There's a higher chance of hitting a townie D1 which I rather not have happen. Palmar's defenses and responses to other people are pretty interesting and lacking to say the least.
Here are a couple recent ones that I pulled from his filter. When Marv confronted Palmar and asked his to share this is how Palmar replied
On July 16 2012 21:21 Palmar wrote:
I don't want to talk to you anymore marvellosity
Then a couple of pages later comes back with this
On July 17 2012 00:00 Palmar wrote:
I hate you guys.
I thought it was interesting and wanted to bring attention to him.
Palmar as isn't playing like his "Usual" self this game. He hasn't started up his play of calling people idiots and chewing them out for disagreeing with him. Instead he has been trying to keep his mouth shut in case he gets a few people a little too angry and the votes start shifting towards him.
As for BH, I'm not too sure about him yet. I'm going to wait to see more until I make a decision on him.
Kurumi: I'm leaning suspicious on. I have been in enough games with him where he's been Mafia to have a good idea of how he plays. So far he hasn't been as obnoxious and confusing as he has been previously in other games but there is still enough to make me be weary. Until I see more I'm going to keep an eye on him.
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Almost forgot
##Vote Palmar
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On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote:
CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG
You're wrong
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On July 17 2012 02:12 HiroPro wrote:
Katina, could you point me to something that you feel is Palmar's "usual" town play?
It's hard to find games when he smurfs all the time. It's even harder to find a game where he is town. I had a few posts but the tags got messed up. Go look at Mafia LIV, It's not much but again it's hard to find a lot on him but it's Palmar. Everyone knows how he plays. He's aggressive and opinionated. He will let you know if you are stupid or if he's mad at you. He usually keeps a low profile and avoids stepping on toes if he is Mafia. Once I recover from the annoyance that are tags I will go and find the posts again.
Note to self: Don't close tabs before making sure everything is good.
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Mattchew, I have no idea where that "case against me came from. I made one post and voted on who I thought was the most suspicious and you immediately jump all over me and assume I'm Mafia. WBG has that corner covered. I didn't know that giving my opinion on what's been going on is scummy. It's D1 a majority of the cases are going to be bad (Ex: Your case on me) Don't read into things that aren't there. I'm town. Move onto someone else that is actually scummy.
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@ Mattchew
What are you talking about? You are the one making absolutely no sense. I know I'm an easy target to get mislynched but that's not going to happen today. You think that scummy people are town and people that aren't that scummy you are pushing for to get lynched. Your points against me are based off of nothing except the fact that your reads are different than mine. I'm trying to find scum and you just made your way onto my Mafia list with Palmar. You come out of nowhere and immediately jump all over one of my posts then nit pick at my response to you. The reasoning for your suspicions are bad and have close to nothing to back any of it up with. Most of what you say you just pulled out of thin air. You are making a sad attempt to do what WBG does in attempts to try and get me lynched.
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On July 17 2012 03:21 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 03:17 Katina wrote:
@ Mattchew
What are you talking about? You are the one making absolutely no sense. I know I'm an easy target to get mislynched but that's not going to happen today. You think that scummy people are town and people that aren't that scummy you are pushing for to get lynched. Your points against me are based off of nothing except the fact that your reads are different than mine. I'm trying to find scum and you just made your way onto my Mafia list with Palmar. You come out of nowhere and immediately jump all over one of my posts then nit pick at my response to you. The reasoning for your suspicions are bad and have close to nothing to back any of it up with. Most of what you say you just pulled out of thin air. You are making a sad attempt to do what WBG does in attempts to try and get me lynched.
You literally haven't answered any of my points in my case against you and you still fail to even quote what I have wrote. I can't tell if you haven't read it or if you just don't know how to respond to the truth
Really Mattchew? Are you really picking at the fact that I haven't been quoting what you have wrote? I have answered the points against me in your case (there wasn't much to respond to) I have read the thread. What you're saying isnt the truth. I have defended myself already.
On July 17 2012 03:26 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 03:17 Katina wrote:
@ Mattchew
What are you talking about? You are the one making absolutely no sense. I know I'm an easy target to get mislynched but that's not going to happen today. You think that scummy people are town and people that aren't that scummy you are pushing for to get lynched. Your points against me are based off of nothing except the fact that your reads are different than mine. I'm trying to find scum and you just made your way onto my Mafia list with Palmar. You come out of nowhere and immediately jump all over one of my posts then nit pick at my response to you. The reasoning for your suspicions are bad and have close to nothing to back any of it up with. Most of what you say you just pulled out of thin air. You are making a sad attempt to do what WBG does in attempts to try and get me lynched.
Why do you "know" that you are an easy target to be "mislynched"? Has this been a common occurrence? Why do you keep mentioning WBG and comparing mattchew's play to his, it's not relevant at all. I agree with mattchew in the sense that some parts of your palmar "case" were weak and perhaps suspiciously so, but at the same time Palmar is clearly 100% trolling so far so he could very well be mafia. I think the only thing about his play that could point towards him being town is the fact he outed sinani's smurf, which isn't very smart to do in this setup if you are mafia as the person whose smurf you are outing may also be mafia. What do you think about meapak's play so far?
I have been mislynched several times by people like Mattchew thinking I'm scummy. Then they lynch me and I flip town. It's a fairly common occurence. I'm comparing the two because I have played in a few games with the both of them. WBG pushes me severly when he thinks I'm Mafia in a similar way that Mattchew is trying to but only WBG actually has points and does it poperly. WBG has gotten me lynch for it, I think Mattchew is Mafia and trying to do what WBG does to get me lynched this game. As for my case on Palmar, It's D1 the cases aren't going to be 100% percent solid. Mattchew's case on me was weaker than the one I made on Palmar.
I don't think Meapak is Mafia at the moment. Then again I haven't been looking at him closely. I have been looking at people who I'm familiar with their play style so I can get an idea of their alignment and start narrowing people down.
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On July 17 2012 05:22 Foolishness wrote:
Everyone should ignore Mattchew. He's so far off topic that I'm even going to do this Ace style:
Ignore List:
Mattchew
Chezinu - does anyone honestly ever read his posts?
Syllogism is mafia. Non-committal stances, doesn't even want to defend himself. Someone needs to redirect that nuke at marvellosity. And the next time Kurumi uses the phrase "actively lurking" someone should shoot him.
And before someone asks, Palmar is town. Mafia never propose stupid things like random lynches day 1.
##Vote: syllogism
Mafia does stupid things, Palmar does stupid things. Especially when he's Mafia or third party, your reasoning for that is "He can't be that stupid if he's Mafia". Why would you redirect the nuke at marv? I don't like the vote on syllogism right now, especially with your lack of reasoning behind it. You want to shoot Kurumi and redirect a nuke at Marv. Can you elaborate?
It seems that you are throwing around doubt and trying to side track people in your first post. You post one sentence about people who are scummy such as Kurumi (which you seem to have scummy feelings towards) and Palmar. You basically posted close to nothing just a sentence maybe two on a few people. I know you all too well, those are the things you taught me to do. I know you are Mafia love cake <3
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The last few pages have been very interesting.
I'm moving my vote
##Unvote Palmar
##Vote Kurumi
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I would like to bring attention back to Foolishness' post against syllogism. Kurumi's fate looks sealed. I like the points that were brought up and the evidence that was presented. I was a bit suspicios of syllogism (even though I didn't like the idea of lynching him today)
And to save some posts just because I like Foolishness' case doesn't mean that I think he's in the clear.
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On July 17 2012 07:30 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 07:29 Katina wrote:
I would like to bring attention back to Foolishness' post against syllogism. Kurumi's fate looks sealed. I like the points that were brought up and the evidence that was presented. I was a bit suspicios of syllogism (even though I didn't like the idea of lynching him today)
And to save some posts just because I like Foolishness' case doesn't mean that I think he's in the clear. Really, which point specifically do you like and what "evidence"? Did you forget about palmar already?
No I didn't forget about Palmar. I'm more focused on Kurumi and what's going on in the thread right now. I liked how Foolishness took the time to go through past games and used your posts to link together Mafia behavoir in other games.
Take it easy, my vote is on Kurumi.
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On July 17 2012 07:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol @ Kurumi trying to insinuate that mafia know who town are in this setup (hint: they don't)
The desperate flailings and failings of a caught scum, too funny.
Also marv is a good scumhunter, an honorable scumhunter, let no harm befall him. Marv if you're town don't go afk, just ignore Kurumi. You can help me and sandro and whoever else is on town side. I'm still reading, but thoughts to come in a few hours after my lab.
Barring Kurumi I'd like to hear who Katina, Palmar, sandro, and syllo would kill right now.
Palmar mostly. Wouldn't mind syllo, or Mattchew.
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Why did you all get nukes?!? That's no fair!
I think that we should lynch syllogism, or Palmar.
Hiro, I will go find Palmar's meta for you since my internet is not being so slow right now.
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Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.
I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.
To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.
I will get back to you on Foolishness.
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On July 17 2012 13:44 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 13:39 Katina wrote:
Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.
I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.
To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.
I will get back to you on Foolishness. Yeah testing nukes on someone who hasn't posted and I would normally be ok with policy lynching sure is questionable! I've also posted reads on people like BH, MZ and others while trying to stimulate discussion and push people for their reasons, but fuck that, I have only tunneled you
I really like how you convinently appear whenever I do. You haven't post reads on others nearly to the extent that you have on me. I would hardly call what you have been doing as generating dicussion. I think people have even forgotten that you were in the game. No one every says anything to you or about you.
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Geez, the thread is all over the place and so are the votes. Instead of focusing on one person to lynch there are several people being pushed for today's lynch.
There is no way there will be a Foolishness or a Sandroba lynch today. Syllogism, or Blazinghand is most likely at this point maybe Austin (depends on everyone else) Since WBG is pushing him pretty hard right now. Kurumi is getting nuked so that's a done deal. I feel like lots of people are trying to throw doubt around last minute here. Once night hits these people should be looked at (EX: austin, marv)
Right now both Syllogism and Blazinghand is near the top of my suspicion list and these two are the main candidates for lynch today. Blazinghand hasn't been around in for a bit while Syllogism has been here trying to defend himself and push his suspicions of Foolishness (Who is also scummy to me) I would like to give Syllo another day and see what happens. So I will be voting for Blazhinghand today. I'm sure enough about austin yet to consider him a lynch candidate today I will wait and see what happens later on.
##Unvote Kurumi
##Vote Blazinghand
Depending on his flip and who dies during the night hopefully we will have a more organized D2.
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Gah! Blazinghand! It's like you know!
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On July 18 2012 06:47 HiroPro wrote:
Katina, you've never mentioned anything about BH before. Why lynch him?
I mention him briefly in one of my posts early on. I said I wanted to see more from him until I make decision. I was watching him closely because people were always talking about him. At the time I thought the cases on Palmar and Foolishness were stronger. When Syllo popped up I thought he was more suspicious as well. So I was merely attacking them until I was more confident in Blazinghand's alignment.I have never been against his lynch if I was I would have said something early on. Especially when he started getting votes.
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If it's your idea of town logic BH then I'm not too worried about it.
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bugs, you should really know better than to try to switch the vote train off of two people who were discussed at in length. You have caused a shitstorm now, and the votes aren't any better than they were 24 hours ago. The people voting for austin at this point:
supersoft
wherebugsgo
Bill Murray
sandroba
syllogism
risk.nuke
gonzaw
Looks like a pretty good mafia list. I wouldn't mind 4 or 5 of you dying.
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A no lynch huh? That's really pathetic town.
Syllogism don't you think to go after me and say I don't care because I wasn't around at lynch time. That says absolutely nothing about my alignment. You have done nothing but gone after people who think you are Mafia.
Within the last 8 hours people were bringing up random cases about numerous people for example:
WBG: brought in his case about austin. Really bugs? You should know better than that. Your behavoir has caused me to think you are Mafia. All the other games I have played in with you when it comes to lynch time you settle on a certain person and are incredibly stubborn to change your mind especially when theres risk of a no- lynch (I can vouch for this since I have tried numerous times to get you off my back and you didn't budge) Your votes were all over the place instead of trying to take charge and keep the thread focused like you usually do when you are town.
BM: You have been pretty absent for most of D1 then you come in before the lynch and try to stir things up even more (I didn't think that was even possible) You basically sheeped everyone, your votes moved all over the place as well between gonzaw and BH. I can't get a read on you because of your blatant lack of posting (until right before the deadline)
sandroba: I can say the same about you that I said to WBG. You switched your votes around so much as well and you really should know better. From what I know about your play is when you think someone is Mafia you are deadset on killing them. Much like bugs when he's town. You have accused probably 8 people this game of being Mafia D1.... That's not like you.
Mattchew: I will be post a case on you later. I'm pretty sure that you are Mafia. I still think Palmar is Mafia as well.
BH: I don't know why people are so wishy - washy about him. He's pretty scummy in his play. He never freaks out this much when he's about to die except when he's Mafia.
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On July 19 2012 02:34 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 02:22 sandroba wrote:
And Katina that post is horrible. You should know better than post that you are scum so clearly. I guess in this game it doesn't matter since we can't get anything done. Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 02:37 sandroba wrote:On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote:
CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG You are wrong. Katina alignment is non conclusive right now. Move on to palmar/mz/bh. i dislike you greatly
Get off my back Mattchew, your pathetic attempts to get me lynched this game was amusing at first with trying to copy WBG (except he does it properly ) now they are just getting old. You have spent most of the game so far focusing on me for no reason except for your claims that my logic is bad and is only that bed when I'm scum. That is such a stupid reason to think someone is Mafia and lynch them. This whole game I have been focusing on the select few people I'm pretty confident that are Mafia (You fall into that catagory as well) You are being counter productive and going after me and only me when I am in no way in danger of getting lynched.
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Syllogism you are making close to no sense right now. I have my read on Foolishness and I will give it to you once I am 1--% percent sure of it. Right now I am only 85% sure of his alignment.
This whole thread has been basically nit picking and calling each other out on stupid things instead of working as an actual town and killing the Mafia like it should be. I thought this was a game for "skilled" people not a game for little bitchy whiners.
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On July 19 2012 08:15 HiroPro wrote:
Deadline is in ~45 minutes. Waiting expectantly for Katina's case on Mattchew and Foolishness's reads.
You will get the case, don't worry.
On July 19 2012 08:21 syllogism wrote:
Pretty sure palmar is mafia as well. Some of his posts are very reasonable and I even agree with the a lot of content, but his tone and attitude is off. He is also putting in as little effort as possible and basically ignoring me and sandroba despite even at one point calling sandroba confirmed town. Yes this is a very lazy "case" and he probably won't be a lynch candidate tomorrow.
Yes... this is what I have been saying D1.....
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Mattchew
First thing that I found interesting while looking through Mattchew's filter was that he is gunning to get me killed the whole game but when the nukes start getting thrown around he decides to do that.
On July 17 2012 11:46 Mattchew wrote:
TBH i have no idea if any of these nukes or blocks are real
like I do not knowingly have a nuke
##nuke Bill Murray
He sends the nuke on BM. It makes no sense to nuke him when he hasn't said a word about BM before this. This makes no sense if he wanted to kill me that badly.
On July 17 2012 13:44 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 13:39 Katina wrote:
Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.
I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.
To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.
I will get back to you on Foolishness. Yeah testing nukes on someone who hasn't posted and I would normally be ok with policy lynching sure is questionable! I've also posted reads on people like BH, MZ and others while trying to stimulate discussion and push people for their reasons, but fuck that, I have only tunneled you
Mattchew, sunk to Kurumi's level and nuked someone who hasn't posted. Furthermore policy lynches are stupid. His actions contradict each other. You have been gunning for me all game but you be willing to policy lynch a different person and nuke somone else entirely.
You have given us your reads but there is no elaboration. You said rastaban was Mafia twice but only said that was because he was looking out for himself, that's hardly a reason to call someone mafia. You did not want to kill gonzaw D1 but you didn't do anything to stop the votes from going over. Instead you sat there and watched it all happen, of course your vote got stolen but that shouldn't stop from telling everyone to vote for someone else instead.Futhermore you never commented on any of the big names in the thread. You have mentioned BH maybe once or twice, you never said anything about austin and as I said before you never talked about gonzaw for more than one post.
Looking through his filter he posts to make it look like he's doing something and contributing but in reality his posts don't say much of anything. Basically they are asking people the same "what do you think of this guy" "What do you think of this reponse" but not generating anything useful.
On July 17 2012 14:07 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 13:56 Katina wrote:On July 17 2012 13:44 Mattchew wrote:On July 17 2012 13:39 Katina wrote:
Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.
I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.
To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.
I will get back to you on Foolishness. Yeah testing nukes on someone who hasn't posted and I would normally be ok with policy lynching sure is questionable! I've also posted reads on people like BH, MZ and others while trying to stimulate discussion and push people for their reasons, but fuck that, I have only tunneled you I really like how you convinently appear whenever I do. You haven't post reads on others nearly to the extent that you have on me. I would hardly call what you have been doing as generating dicussion. I think people have even forgotten that you were in the game. No one every says anything to you or about you. Just because no one talks to me doesnt mean I'm not trying to help discussions. People probably ignore me cause foolishness says so
It seems that Mattchew is using Foolishness' credibilty to get by with not saying much. Which seemed to be working apparently.
No one is really looking at Mattchew or listening to much of what he is saying in thread. (Can't blame you) Mattchew's play has been horrid this game and I am 100% percent certain that he is Mafia.
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So basically Mattchew all I got from your post against what I had to say about you is a picture of an unattractive male like figure laughing at me as it zooms in on his horrid face and bad facial hair?
A. That's stupid, good way to get a townie killed. Not everyone gets a Mafia role every single game hun.
B. You still tested it is my point.
C. It's not stopping you from getting onto my back and riding me through the scorching desert.
D. I don't even know what D is suppiosed to mean.
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On July 19 2012 09:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
I agree with syllo and sandro about Palmar. His play this game reminds me of Liar Game.
Sigh... I'm the one that started the whole Palmar is Mafia thing... I would like some cake too!?
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On July 19 2012 09:22 marvellosity wrote:
Katina, this game you are not a "chosen one", so you do not get included in such posts.
That's not what my mom tells me....
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Mattchew wahy do you always ask everyone's opinion of whatever you and I say to each other? You are doing anything you can to get my lynched for absolutely no reason.
I would bet anything that you are Mafia.
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Watch there be another nuke post in a few minutes...
##Vote Kurumi
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On July 19 2012 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have had my vote stolen for the entire cycle.
Also I really don't like the idea of not killing kurumi today. The last thing we need to do is give up an easy scum kill.
It doesn't matter if your vote was stolen, just vote.
Why would we give up an easy kill? It will narrow down the scum count, that's what we need to win as town. If Kurumi doesn't die people are just going to derp around and be unfocused because he IS still alive. With him dead that's one less distraction and we can focus on the other scum such as:
Mattchew
Foolishness
Palmar
Blazinghand
Syllogism
Bill Murrary
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Read that post wrong didnt see that not (This is why I disappear after a certain time of night)
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Mattchew is Mafia. After catching up on the thread this morning he is still doing the exact same thing which is nothing.
He is still derping along and throwing at the random "Katina is scum, Let's kill her!!" post. Mattchew is making no real contribution to the thread.
Same goes for BM, he hasn't done any work and has been lacking in the thread. What you except out of BM has not been present. Except for some bad attempts to troll to get the pressure off of him a bit.
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On July 20 2012 02:48 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 02:40 Katina wrote:
Mattchew is Mafia. After catching up on the thread this morning he is still doing the exact same thing which is nothing.
He is still derping along and throwing at the random "Katina is scum, Let's kill her!!" post. Mattchew is making no real contribution to the thread.
Same goes for BM, he hasn't done any work and has been lacking in the thread. What you except out of BM has not been present. Except for some bad attempts to troll to get the pressure off of him a bit. You keep agreeing with Foolishness, who you, presumably, now believe is 100% mafia. Doesn't that concern you at all? Also, if Foolishness is mafia, don't you think you should focus a bit more attention ensuring that he gets lynched as he clearly presents a bigger threat than someone like BM? No matter how many times I push this point you keep ignoring him.
There's still truth in his posts, BM has been acting suspicious. Besides Mafia don't know who each other are this game, even if someone you suspect makes a case about someone being Mafai you should still read and consider everything they have to say because it's likely that it could be a Maifa attacking a Mafia. I take into consideration that Foolishness is Mafia when I look at his posts then decide for myself if I believe him or not. I know Foolishness very well. I'm not ignoring him at all. There's not much that can be done about it right now since we are lynching Kurumi today. There are many people on my list that I would like to see lynched as well. Each of these people have been playing poorly and I'm pretty certain they are Mafia.
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This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:
Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)
There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.
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VE: Then we will lynch Zealos D3, honey. That doesn't mean the town has to run all over the place with their votes. The Mafia aren't going anywhere, we have to lynch them one at a time.
Not knowing what other powers scum have is not something we should be focusing on right now. That's not going to make them suddenly pop into our minds. We will find out like we always do and that's when they use it. It's impossible to know anything before hand. Kurumi has already used his power when he nuked RebithOfLegend. I understand that Zealos might have a power too but I think that's farfetched considering the amount of nukes and blocks going off D1. Right now we should keep our votes on Kurumi and continue to make cases on others that are scummy then decide who our D3 lynch should be when night falls and Kurumi's alignment is revealed.
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On July 20 2012 11:23 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote:
This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:
Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)
There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.
Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself. Hipo-Creeeeeet 
First of all, read my post properly. I wasn't complaining that there wasn't any new information. I was stating that the thread is unorganized and that we shouldn't start throwing our votes all over the place again. We need to keep our votes focused on Kurumi today.
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On July 20 2012 11:40 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 11:34 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:23 Probulous wrote:On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote:
This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:
Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)
There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.
Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself. Hipo-Creeeeeet First of all, read my post properly. I wasn't complaining that there wasn't any new information. I was stating that the thread is unorganized and that we shouldn't start throwing our votes all over the place again. We need to keep our votes focused on Kurumi today. "we" need to keep our votes focused on kurumi? The only guys on zealos are me and rasta, and I've explicitly stated my willingness to vote kurumi. I won't disappear from the thread. Also, do you really think there's no possible good argument for a zealos lynch instead of kurumi? because I think the argument that zealos may still have a power while kurumi certainly has used his up is a compelling one. We're lynching both of them anyways, why not lynch zealos first? ._.
It just takes one or two votes to switch to throw the whole town into confusion.
If votes start switching there is no garauntee that enough people will switch off Kurumi to lynch Zealos then we will end up with another no lynch. We are all in agreement and have our votes placed. I never said there wasn't a good arguement to lynch Zealos now, Kurumi is basically confirmed scum. Why would we mess that up now to attempt to lynch Zealos who may or may not be an executive? There is no way to know how high up someone is.... The speculation that he might be an executive shouldn't be allowed to cloud our judgement. Mafia is Mafia, we need to start eliminating them now. We really cannot afford more confusion and vote switching chaos again.
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On July 20 2012 11:51 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 11:48 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:40 Blazinghand wrote:On July 20 2012 11:34 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:23 Probulous wrote:On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote:
This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:
Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)
There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.
Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself. Hipo-Creeeeeet First of all, read my post properly. I wasn't complaining that there wasn't any new information. I was stating that the thread is unorganized and that we shouldn't start throwing our votes all over the place again. We need to keep our votes focused on Kurumi today. "we" need to keep our votes focused on kurumi? The only guys on zealos are me and rasta, and I've explicitly stated my willingness to vote kurumi. I won't disappear from the thread. Also, do you really think there's no possible good argument for a zealos lynch instead of kurumi? because I think the argument that zealos may still have a power while kurumi certainly has used his up is a compelling one. We're lynching both of them anyways, why not lynch zealos first? ._. It just takes one or two votes to switch to throw the whole town into confusion. If votes start switching there is no garauntee that enough people will switch off Kurumi to lynch Zealos then we will end up with another no lynch. We are all in agreement and have our votes placed. I never said there wasn't a good arguement to lynch Zealos now, Kurumi is basically confirmed scum. Why would we mess that up now to attempt to lynch Zealos who may or may not be an executive? There is no way to know how high up someone is.... The speculation that he might be an executive shouldn't be allowed to cloud our judgement. Mafia is Mafia, we need to start eliminating them now. We really cannot afford more confusion and vote switching chaos again. Wat you really don't know why we want to lynch zealos do you
I do know but people have been saying many different things about why the want to lynch Zealos and I'm saying switching votes now is not a good idea.
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On July 20 2012 11:58 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 11:54 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:51 Blazinghand wrote:On July 20 2012 11:48 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:40 Blazinghand wrote:On July 20 2012 11:34 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:23 Probulous wrote:On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote:
This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:
Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)
There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.
Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself. Hipo-Creeeeeet First of all, read my post properly. I wasn't complaining that there wasn't any new information. I was stating that the thread is unorganized and that we shouldn't start throwing our votes all over the place again. We need to keep our votes focused on Kurumi today. "we" need to keep our votes focused on kurumi? The only guys on zealos are me and rasta, and I've explicitly stated my willingness to vote kurumi. I won't disappear from the thread. Also, do you really think there's no possible good argument for a zealos lynch instead of kurumi? because I think the argument that zealos may still have a power while kurumi certainly has used his up is a compelling one. We're lynching both of them anyways, why not lynch zealos first? ._. It just takes one or two votes to switch to throw the whole town into confusion. If votes start switching there is no garauntee that enough people will switch off Kurumi to lynch Zealos then we will end up with another no lynch. We are all in agreement and have our votes placed. I never said there wasn't a good arguement to lynch Zealos now, Kurumi is basically confirmed scum. Why would we mess that up now to attempt to lynch Zealos who may or may not be an executive? There is no way to know how high up someone is.... The speculation that he might be an executive shouldn't be allowed to cloud our judgement. Mafia is Mafia, we need to start eliminating them now. We really cannot afford more confusion and vote switching chaos again. Wat you really don't know why we want to lynch zealos do you I do know but people have been saying many different things about why the want to lynch Zealos and I'm saying switching votes now is not a good idea. We have 24 hours now is the perfect time to switch.
Only two people have switched as I said before there is no garauntee that enough people will switch over to ensure his lynch. We are already lynching a Mafia member, no need to cause distruption to that right now.
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I think that Zealos or BH should be lynched tomorrow. These are the people that have been talked about the most and we should keep the attention on them. Secondary candidates like BM, Palmar, Foolishiness, GGQ should be put aside until we solve the more pressing matters at hand. Right now there is still an incredible lack of focus. People are just spewing out whoever they think is Mafia without regard to what the town thinks.
Tomorrow we should lynch BH. He has been at the forefront of causing chaos and keeping the town derailed. I certainly wouldn't mind Zealos either but with BH we have much more to go off of and he seems like the safest.
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On July 21 2012 03:34 syllogism wrote:
Stop arguing with mafia, in particular Foolishness.
Katina how come you don't want to lynch Foolishness tomorrow?
I never said I didn't. There is obviously more focus on Zealos, BH, and Kurumi at the moment. We have our hands full at the moment with all this other stuff going on in the thread. The town's priority at the moment is Kurumi and Zealos. If the town decides they want to lynch Foolishness tomorrow and cast their votes (and leave them there) I won't object. (I have stated before that I think he's Mafia)
On July 21 2012 03:36 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 03:34 syllogism wrote:
Stop arguing with mafia, in particular Foolishness.
Katina how come you don't want to lynch Foolishness tomorrow? Because she's mafia with him.
Hardly.
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On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm crazy! I'll do it!
##unvote
##vote: sandroba
Okay, really?
Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty.
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On July 21 2012 08:34 Kurumi wrote:Katina, mind listing your mafia and town reads? Im going through your filter and there's a lot of mafia lists but you never seem to call anyone town... You are trying to control the chaos in the thread, but you simply don't have the presence or authority to do so. Why not pursue it harder? Why not pursue it more gently? Do you really care? Palmar's RL plan seems genuine and good. That's why I was up for it. His play looks a lot like bored town. He bring info on Q. He gives a lot of reads, some cases. I just got it how much it sucks that I am alive. It's Day 2 and scum are going to have enough intel to kill good people without them doing any justice. Damn it. You MUST preserve Town's reads. First Katina's post ticks me off in this moment: Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 02:07 Katina wrote:
Palmar is Mafia: He puts out the idea of a random lynch and tries to convince the town to go with it. Random lynches are a bad idea, yes there are a lot of mafia but there are more townies. There's a higher chance of hitting a townie D1 which I rather not have happen.. Like it's not the case like.. ALWAYS? Her reason to go against RL is pretty much none. Something's wrong here. Also compare this list: Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 09:26 Katina wrote:
bugs, you should really know better than to try to switch the vote train off of two people who were discussed at in length. You have caused a shitstorm now, and the votes aren't any better than they were 24 hours ago. The people voting for austin at this point:
supersoft
wherebugsgo
Bill Murray
sandroba
syllogism
risk.nuke
gonzaw
Looks like a pretty good mafia list. I wouldn't mind 4 or 5 of you dying. To this one: (I'll help) Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 12:20 Katina wrote:On July 19 2012 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have had my vote stolen for the entire cycle.
Also I really don't like the idea of not killing kurumi today. The last thing we need to do is give up an easy scum kill. It doesn't matter if your vote was stolen, just vote. Why would we give up an easy kill? It will narrow down the scum count, that's what we need to win as town. If Kurumi doesn't die people are just going to derp around and be unfocused because he IS still alive. With him dead that's one less distraction and we can focus on the other scum such as: MattchewFoolishnessPalmar
BlazinghandSyllogism Bill Murrary Even given the first list is based off votes on austin, I wonder why they're not in the second one...
You want my reads? Okay:
Mafia: Foolishness, Mattchew, Palmar, Blazinghand, Syllogirm, BM (as clearly stated) Those reads have no changed.
Town: I have no idea... Once I get a good town read that I'm confident in I will let you know.
I don't care if I don't have the "authority" I'm still going to try anyway instead of sit on my ass and watch the town burn, nor do I care what you think. I check on the thread when I can but there's only so many times I can yell at you guys to try and get it together and be focused so we can kill the Mafia and win this. At this point pursuing it gently is not going to work, no one would listen to me. If I didn't care I wouldn't be making all these points constantly on trying to keep conversation and votes focused.
The first list I posted was off of votes that were casted. I used that as the basis for my Mafia list. I went through and looked at some filters and as the time went and more content was being displayed I came to the conclusion of my present Mafai list. I've explained all my reads: I made a case against Mattchew, Blazinghand is obvious, Palmar hasn't done anything all game (as I've said a few times now), Foolishness is duh, syllogism hasn't done anything but accuse anyone who attacks him, and Foolishness provided a million reasons why Bill Murray is mafia.
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On July 21 2012 08:36 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote:On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm crazy! I'll do it!
##unvote
##vote: sandroba Okay, really? Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty. What? No. You're ignoring the possibility of Kurumi flipping scum. If Sandro IS somehow legit, then Zealos is also scum. What is it with you and trying to lynch me in literally every game we play together? ._.
I don't try and lynch you every game. Just the ones where you are Mafia or in some cases third party.
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On July 21 2012 08:36 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote:On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm crazy! I'll do it!
##unvote
##vote: sandroba Okay, really? Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty. Are you always that aggressive, Katina?
Nope. This is the first time I have been this aggressive but the town is going up in flames and it's horrible.
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On July 21 2012 08:37 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote:On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm crazy! I'll do it!
##unvote
##vote: sandroba Okay, really? Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty. I'm inclined to agree, but I REALLY REALLY want to lynch Executives. This inter-office communication bullshit is gonna continue to be convoluted and confusing. Katina, do you think I'm insane for thinking sandroba is scum? If so, please tell me nicely. 
I don't think you are insane for thinking so. Everything is crazy right now but wanting to lynch executives is causing more bad than good. It's impossible to tell and makes the thread go crazy instead of just lynching those who we think are scummy.
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On July 21 2012 17:36 supersoft wrote:
katina looks pretty cute :-o
she cant be scum.
You're too kind.
Anyways, back to Mafia.
On July 22 2012 00:47 Palmar wrote:
if you can shoot tonight kill foolishness, syllo, katina, BM, zealos etc
I'll be around later
Why do you think I should be shot? You have yet to give any reasons to why you think I'm Mafia. You have done close to nothing this game besides popping in every now and then, and giving a brief hit and run then off again. You know who is known for hit and runs? Mafia, have you not seen the old Mafia movies??. Your uselessness this game has astounded me.
The same goes for Mattchew as well. Lack of contribution or care for find Mafia, close to no reads with almost no explanation or reasoning.
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Lynch those who are scummy. Don't worry about lynching the executives right now. We haven't killed one Mafia yet. Our focus needs to be on that right now. Not making speculations and picking someone we think "could be" a executive. I would imagine that all the minions have the powers anyway since executives have the authority to communicate messages. Wouldn't make sense for them to have anymore powers.
We need to lynch into this group:
Foolishness
Palmar
Mattchew
Blazinghand
Syllogism
BM
All these players are playing poorly this game and aren't playing according to their town Meta's in previous games. All these people are normally focused and organized when they scum hunt. (BM aside) There's gaurenteed Mafia in there, I'm certain of it. Again, don't worry about the executives. Just lynch Mafia, that's all that matters. There's too much worry about the messages being sent amongest the Mafia. As I have said before there is no way to know who's what on the chain of command. So it's pointless and a distraction to be worrying about this.
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On July 22 2012 04:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
You and Foolish have both stated similar aims. :/
All right, that's BH in my opinion, Foolish is right.
Careful, Foolishness is also scum and Palmar is most likely Mafia as well. The last thing we need to do is have the town start thinking that Foolishness isn't Mafia. BH is a good lynch candidate for tomorrow. He has the most against him right now.
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On July 22 2012 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar isn't. He's a gut player. Not saying he doesn't have good reads or rape scums - just saying he doesn't scumhunt methodically that I've seen...just waits for scum to reveal themselves to him and then lynch the piss out of them.
For the record.
That's nice but I still think he's Mafia.
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On July 22 2012 04:36 syllogism wrote:
BH is very likely mafia, but it's laughable to include him on a list of people who you say are "focused and organized" when they scum hunt. No one thinks Foolishness is town, so he clearly should be our lynch tomorrow.
I was using those terms loosely. They all have their different ways of being "focused and organized" when they play. Also they are "consistent and confident"
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On July 22 2012 04:39 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 04:35 Katina wrote:On July 22 2012 04:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
You and Foolish have both stated similar aims. :/
All right, that's BH in my opinion, Foolish is right. Careful, Foolishness is also scum and Palmar is most likely Mafia as well. The last thing we need to do is have the town start thinking that Foolishness isn't Mafia. BH is a good lynch candidate for tomorrow. He has the most against him right now. Katina you keep complaining that town lacks focus, but you should be pushing Foolishness lynch in every single of your posts. He is a rational, good player so there is no chance whatsoever he is town in this game. The error margin is pretty much 0%. With players like kurumi, zealos, BH there is always a small possibility that they are just playing poorly or trolling, while that's not possible with Foolishness. He should be your strongest read.
I made a post against him on D1 saying that I knew he was Mafia. We have been preoccupied with people like Kurumi and Zealos there hasn't been any time to discuss Foolishness as a lynch candidate for tomorrow. I would me more than happy to lynch him. He's somewhere near the top of my Mafia list in just about all my posts. I have been talking about what's going on in the thread and trying to keep the town focused (I'm aware I don't have the "authortity") but I'm still going to try.
As for BH, I have a pretty good idea between him trolly town play and his Mafia or third party play (which are pretty much the same)
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On July 22 2012 04:53 Mattchew wrote:
As of this very moment I will be voting between katina rastaban and foolishness tomorrow
No reasons for why you think so? Surprise, Surprise.
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On July 22 2012 04:57 rastaban wrote:
I was snooping through some of the experienced players filters
Syllogism is town it is pretty obvious
Foolishness I'm sorry I doubted you for a bit. I forgot last game we played together mafia's ploy was to get you lynched. I am convinced your town now so let's work together. You are posting just like you did then with distant for poor town play an focusing on finding scum. I like it!
Not sure on ggq yet, time for more research!
Chezinu and sandroba are obviously town.
BM is so different from himself he must be scum.
What?
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On July 22 2012 08:00 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 07:55 layabout wrote:
What is all of this about BH that i seem to have missed? Apparently I'm to be lynched tomorrow rather, than, say, Zealos.
You're scummier.
I'm going to read over some filters. I will be back with hopefully some more reads.
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On July 22 2012 08:41 supersoft wrote:
Katina, is it true that foolish had no time to be around for the day1 lynch?
It's true. He stepped out for a bit. It was something that had to be taken care of urgently and quickly. Couldn't really be avoided.
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Okay, went through some filters and found a few people who I think are Mafia.
Gonzaw: I noticed that in the two pages of his filter he complains a lot about the how much chaos is in the thread but yet he does nothing about it. Instead Gonzaw often goes off and comes back eventually posts something then gone again. He talks a lot about other players in the game but never hard pushes anyone. Gonzaw makes long posts that basically ramble on certain player and by the end I have forgotten what I have read. He tries to look useful with his posts but in the end they are just taking up space. He throws doubt around the town and takes off when he has done his job. I'm aware that he said he was away this weekend and can't be here to properly defend himself.
Layabout: He has two pages of filter as well. I think he is Mafia, something erks me about his filter this game. He mentions gonzaw early on and casts a vote on him for close to no reason. He didn't push his read on gonzaw and doesn't say anything about him after that. Instead he shifts his attention onto other people liks (Palmar, Kurumi, etc) and casts his vote on Kurumi. Now he's on Zealos. It seems that he is just going with the flow.
Meapak: Picks on easy targets for the most part. The only one he hard pushs is rastaban who hasn't been too active this game. He makes for an easy target. Meapak continues to push rastaban when it's clear that no one is going to go for it. His Mafia list is pretty meh, As I said the only hard read he has been pushing is rastaban to try and make it look like he's scum hunting so he doesn't draw too much suspicion.
risk.nuke: Doesn't have much in his filter. He starts off by agreeing with BH in the begining but then turns on him when BH starts taking fire. He sheep's along with bugs on his case against austin and jumps on board with Kurumi. The only case he has posted has been on BH, then he never follows up with it. Instead he goes on to post about me and Zealos being Mafia because he aren't suspicious of each other. He hasn't contributed anything useful to the town and doesn't seem to care that much.
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Our lynch for today should be Blazinghand. Not doubt about it. His play this game explains itself. I am more than confident he will flip Mafia.
##Vote Blazinghand
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A Palmar lynch would suffic as well. They are both incredibly scummy since the beginging of the game. We can't go wrong with lynching them.
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I doubt Palmar is an executive, he has been lazy this game. He has to make some big posts to keep suspicion off of him. He's most likely a minion but it really doesn't matter. The CEO is dead. All that is left is to pick the others off. Here's my list now after looking over some filters.
Palmar
Blazinghand
Meapkak
risk.nuke
Layabout
gonzaw
Possibly Mattchew (I can't tell if he's scum or just playing really badly this game)
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I have a town read on Chezinu, he's not a good lynch candidate. I don't think he has done anything to indicate that he is Mafia.
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On July 22 2012 10:17 syllogism wrote:
Palmar very aggressively defended BH on day 1 and 2
Not to mention his incredibly scummy play. Since BH is dead he is the next best option. I'm more than certain he will flip Mafia.
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I don't think I believe sloosh's claim. He doesn't say much all game then comes in when foolishness dies and claims he killed him. I'm more inclined to believe supersoft. sloosh made it on my Mafia list. I think VE is probably town and Mattchew might be as well just extremely misguided same goes for rastaban. Palmar needs to be lynched today then one of the following next:
Sloosh
Meapak
Gonzaw
Layabout
risk.nuke
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Okay, just got done reading through the thread. Gonzawa and risk.nuke's behavior towards me confirms they are Mafia in my opinion. Lynching them next would be most advised. I read through their filters and wrote paragraphs on each one (Layabout, risk, gonzaw, Meapak) risk ignores my post probably hoping it will be buried away in the thread until gonzaw made that bad case on me. risk then comes in and tries to get me lynched along with gonzaw and Mattchew. Mattchew has nothing on me, He has been pushing for me since D1 insted of focusing and being helpful to the town.
I read somewhere that I didn't say or vote for Palmar until the wagon started to form on him. That is not true at all, I have been pushing Palmar since D1 and put my vote on him after BH was lynched since he was next on my list to lynch.
It is true that the Mafia are panicking now. (gonzaw's case on me and risk's sheeping along and claiming to not stop until I'm lynchng) I don't believe sloosh's claim and I think that he has a high chance of flipping Mafia. Once Palmar flips then we need to focus our attention on the others. gonzaw, Layabout, Meapak, risk.nuke, sloosh.
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Not nervous, I just don't have a gun to do the convincing for me. Don't worry dear sir, the young lady's got this.
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THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ME! Damn boyfriends logging you out when you're not looking and not telling you!
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So let's try this again =.= Tomorrow we should lynch sloosh or gonzaw...
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To answer a question I saw a few pages back, I'm not really leaning for sure Mafia on Syllo anymore after I went through his filter a while ago. I'm more of a null read on him right now and I wouldn't be up to lynch him at this moment since I have found others who are much more scummier to me. I don't think it's a good idea to lynch Zealos (atleast not right now) As I said there are others that should be lynched instead right now.
I feel strongly for a sloosh or gonzaw lynch as I have state before. I have seen some talk sbout Meapak and I wouldn't mind that either (Since he's on my list) but as for Zealos he hasn't been around for awhile so I will hold off on that until I see more from him. His filter can go either way... Either Mafia or misguided townie (I'm not positive on which one like Mattchew)
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There's much better people to lynch. Not sure why we are focusing so much on Syllogism. I don't know why my read on him makes me wrong. I read back over his filter a few days ago and it was too derpy for me to make anything of it at that time. I will look at him again D4 when I have a clear head. As for now though, I'm not too concerned about him.
supersoft: I still got this, dear.
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On July 25 2012 07:29 gonzaw wrote:Okay, I'm back and I'll reread some filters, although I'm extremely lazy at this moment :/
Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 05:16 Zealos wrote:
Gonzaw is sorta got some similarities with Hiro, not to mention things that have been talked about by other people, so he is also looking red to me, however, I would prefer a hiro lynch. Ehm, no. Other than Katina FoSing me because she didn't read the thread, I haven't seen "things that have been talked about by other people", other than that "voted Zealos==scum" stupid thing that happened last day. Expand Hmm, I don't think I'll change my mind about you. Just the fact that you didn't out sandro's whole PM (and didn't even out it at all previously) is enough, but just in case you are "townie who makes mistakes" like Kurumi, your play this game is lack-luster, and I don't remember you doing anything other than saying "I'm dumb" on D2, "That case on Katina is good, except it's not" on D3, and "Hiro/gonzaw are scum" on N3 (and nothing else). Yeah I'll just check other people. Haven't read MZ by now, nor checked austin's recent posts, but by what I've seen it's likely they are both scum (I don't remember MZ posting at all since D2 :/ ).
What? I read the thread. I read through your filter a few days ago. That's how I know you are Mafia. I was commenting on posts made by other people. As for Syllogism, he's not important to me nor was he ever my biggest scum read. Palmar, foolisness, and BH were my biggest reads. Now it's sloosh and gonzaw. My filter has been interesting this game because the thread has been so chaostic and making my reads change. I went back and read through filters and arrived at my list now.
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Okay so no deaths. Today we should focus on sloosh, gonzaw, or meapak. These three are very likely to flip Mafia. As for my town reads I'm leaning towards:
VE
supersoft
Chezinu
Probulous
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We need to lynch gonzaw today. We already have some votes on him so let's keep it that way. There's a very good chance he's going to flip Mafia. Tomorrow we can worry about Meapak. Zealos and Chezinu would not make good lynches today.
##Vote gonzaw
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I do want to lynch sloosh but I always want to lynch you just as much gonzaw. I'm not going to switch my vote off of you since you are so high on my Mafia list. It doesn't look like a sloosh lynch wiill happen today and you have votes on you at the moment as well which is great (since you are Mafia) I think that trying to go after me is a desperate attempt to get attention off of you and onto me for close to no reason. You also tried to push attention onto sloosh.
You didn't start going after me until I started talking about you and added your name to my Mafia list. Whic h only increases my suspicions of you. I don't really care what you have to say about me or in your defense because I'm already sold on you. So when you are lynched and somehow flip town then I will write you a nice note and wash your car or something but until then I'm not moving it. So say whatever you want.
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That post was directed at gonzaw.
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On July 26 2012 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote:I thought it was directed at me I was all  Katina after slOosh and gonzaw are dead, who are your best bets for scum? What do you think about MZ?
Once those two are adead I think the next best candidate would be Meapak.
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That's not something we should be worrying about. It doesn't matter if we lynch executives or not. Executives are useless without their minions and minions are lost without their executvies. It's a win win either way.
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Keep votes on gonzaw. It's not a good idea to start switching votes right now unless we want another mislynch. Sloosh needs to die and so does Meapak. There will be prlenty of time to talk about others like syllo and supersoft after we find out what gonzaw flips and night hits. For right now it's not a good idea to get all excited and start throwing votes everywhere.
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sloosh you went from claiming to have shot Foolishness to claiming mole?
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I did read. Just thought it was interesting.
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On July 27 2012 09:23 syllogism wrote:I'm somewhat disappointed that he flipped executive as my other reads somewhat rely on him being minion. We are going to be adjusting reads based on every flip, but right now I'm somewhat confident that the remaining mafia are Gonzaw - executive? Q-bert-z - minion Meapak - CopKatina - executive? She is playing like someone with too much information. She doesn't seem to be reading the thread, she only has mafia reads and she seems less and less interested in the game the better town is doing. It doesn't seem possible for someone to have this accurate mafia reads and at the same time not have a clue about who is town. Her attitude towards foolishness on day 1 and 2 was suspicious, and I think foolishness told her at some point to just bus everyone. Look at her posts when she showed up today in the middle of the sloosh claim situation. She still wanted to lynch sloosh, so she probably didn't even bother reading and wanted to lynch her because she knew that sloosh was mafia. Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 03:37 Katina wrote:
Keep votes on gonzaw. It's not a good idea to start switching votes right now unless we want another mislynch. Sloosh needs to die and so does Meapak. There will be prlenty of time to talk about others like syllo and supersoft after we find out what gonzaw flips and night hits. For right now it's not a good idea to get all excited and start throwing votes everywhere. Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 03:41 syllogism wrote:
Katina are you even reading? Have you read foolishness' flip and the PMs sloosh posted? Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 03:38 Katina wrote:
sloosh you went from claiming to have shot Foolishness to claiming mole? Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 04:05 Katina wrote:
I did read. Just thought it was interesting. Really, interesting? Then she again disappeared, not caring at all about all the very interesting developments. She doesn't even bother moving her vote after all that despite "worrying" about nolynch. She is quite likely mafia. I can't really make sense of her play otherwise. Lynch order Gonzaw, Q-bert-z, Katina. We should follow this order at least until one of them doesn't flip red.
Huh? I always read the thread so I'm not sure what you are talking about. I did tell you the town reads I had. So I'm scummy for being right? I'm not less interested in the game as the town starts to gain focus and does well. I'm glad to see that the thread isn't cluttered with people accusing everyone anymore. I'm not Mafia nor any kind of blue role. I'm town. Why would I throw so many people under the bus? That makes absolutely no sense. My reads have been changing this whole game. I went through filters and read them all really well and came up with my current list. I didn't move my vote because I wasn't here and I thought gonzaw was a secured lynch. I did care about the developement and was happy to see that the town lynch Mafia.
I'm not the person you want to be looking at to lynch. That would be a bad idea and break this Mafia lynching spree that's going on right now. I did all I could in the begining of the game to help the town and find scum so don't start pointing fingers at me now.
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I thought that was the best note I have ever recieved in a PM before. I quite enjoyed it.
As for my read on Mattchew. I didn't abandon it, I still think something isn't right with him this game. He just isn't on my priority list anymore after I read over filters. I found people who I thought were very scummy and proceeded to go after them. So far that hasn't failed me because everyone on my list (Layabout, palmar, sloosh, BH, etc) all flipped Mafia. I'm sticking with my feminen instincts this game and my instincts tell me that Mattchew isn't Mafia. Just incredibly misguided.
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I would like to comment on the points made against me
1. I'm not ignoring junks of the thread. I'm well aware of what is going on.
2. I'm not Mafia and wasting a lynch on me is a bad idea
3. I saw the message late last night and was too tired to announce it to the thread. By the time I got on this morning it was already in the thread.
4. Did I mention that I'm not Mafia? The suspicions of me being Mafia is nothing but a lot of nit picking and assumptions. I'm not sure why the focus is on me when there are scummier people in the thread right now. The thread seems to have a direction now so I don't have a need to be making big posts telling everyone to focus and lynch so and so.
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Okay, I'm going to vote for gonzaw. Got to keep this Mafia lynching spree up.
##Vote gonzaw
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This is my post for today. Tomorrow we kill risk.nuke. I drew a pretty picture the best I could.
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't feel well. I'm going back to bed.
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I don't have a nuke. I will prove it when day comes. Again, I'm not Mafia, I wasn't following any orders.... I was calling people out on their behavior this game. Lynch risk.nuke and Q-bert-z first before you consider lynching me. That would be the best idea. Lynch the two remaining Mafia then gg.
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I have only recieved two pm's this game. I was quiet about them because they didn't seem to be anything of importance.
This was the first one I received:
Katina,
The scum reads found in your posts are really impressive. Even though it may seem at times that no one is reading them, know that it is not publicly debate for your best interest. Town cannot afford to lose you at this point in the game. Having you as a seemingly possible lynch is for your protection. Know that there is a group of town members that will protect you, although they may not advertise this.
Continue your great work,
Mr. Anonymous
The second one that everyone has seen:
Beloved Katina,
I know you were surprised at my alignment. I really enjoyed looking at that photo of you with your pants on your head. However, I am dead now. Speaking from the grave, I urge you to keep playing though I am not with you. I know you only enjoy playing the game because I am there. I am sorry for not logging out of my account every time I use your laptop, I simply just forget. Please forgive me. I don't want to fight with my sweet darling. Once this game is over, I hope we can play again together in a game where we are lovers. I would like you to know that I will always be there for you. See you soon in RL.
Love,
The Fool that is in love with you!
That's pretty much it.
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How does it? I was commenting on bad behavoir and playing that day. I wasn't tunneling anyone. I had my list of people who I thought was Mafia and was going after them all. Not one specific person. People like Mattchew and BM either argued with me or came up a lot in conversation so that's why it may look like tunneling. Not many said much about Palmar or Foolishness until later on. Mafia probably didn't push anything because it would draw a lot of attention to them and they know that they couldn't get me lynched (despite their efforts)
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Okay, here's the proof.
##nuke risk.nuke
As for the lynch vote
##Vote risk.nuke (Because I don't have a nuke)
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##Vote risk.nuke
stupid bold
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On July 31 2012 06:57 syllogism wrote:
You also didn't talk about zealos at all, but were suddenly very much open to lynching him on day 3. You also accuse people of being all over the place with their votes (you repeated this a lot, curious) while you personally kept jumping from candidate to candidate (palmar, foolishness, mattchew, bm, kurumi, bh, zealos and even randomly wbg, sandroba and me). You clearly didn't care about who was being lynched yet kept complaining about the lack of focus.
How do you like the q-bert-z is mole theory? Who is the last mafia in this scenario?
I wasn't open to lynching him, I didn't want another mislynch for the town so I tried to reason with people while also trying to get the right person lynched. I always care about who's getting lynch, that is such a stupid ass thing to say. I may have changed my list a lot but I didn't clutter and confuse the town by switching my votes all over the place.
risk.nuke and Q-bert-Z is left. I don't care about theories just what their filters say.
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Probulous should get warned for doing that.
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On July 31 2012 10:50 Probulous wrote: It's clearly a joke.
Not good when there's jubjubs that will take that seriously and kill me off!
But how is that any different from faking a day post? Or forging PMs from the host?
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Q-bert-Z is our lynch. I'm green, so I don't really have much to claim.
##Vote Q-bert-Z
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WOOOOOO!!!!! WE ARE VICTORIOUS! I WASN'T MISLYNCHED!!!
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