EPTwe must lynch palmar today.
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
we must lynch palmar today. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
I'm not going to try and go for a no-lynch. We've already had enough dumbness in that area. I will try to get zealous or katina lynched but If I can't find support for that I will vote so we get a lynch. Syllo what do you think of the sloosh/bm situation? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
What situation? I think sloosh is mafia fake claiming and he can be lynched tomorrow. Notice that the people who don't want to lynch Palmar also don't like the idea of lynching sloosh. BM is very obviously town. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
if you convince only one that doesnt switch back, we risk a nolynch. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On July 23 2012 22:13 HiroPro wrote: What sloosh/BM situation are you talking about. BM has q-bert's vote. Oh nvm, I've completely misunderstood some shit here. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On July 23 2012 22:08 supersoft wrote: risk that makes no sense. you have two options. stick with syllo and me and help town, or you do your own thing and screw up everything. if you convince only one that doesnt switch back, we risk a nolynch. Fine then, I figured we had some ten hours but maybe that's not enough. Fine lets play it safe. ##Vote: Palmar | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote Palmer | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Was looking through his filter, because it seems like so much of his scumminess is coming from Foolishness. Like, before Foolishness (and BH) died, the lynch today was discussed as a BH/foolishness/zealos option mainly. So before the Foolishness flip, Palmar was scummy to lots, but as a 4th or 5th choice. Heavily, heavily tempered by the fact that 2/3 that short list is dead and flipped scum, but I just wanted to look over Palmar more to convince myself. Found this: On July 17 2012 23:32 Palmar wrote: In hindsight, now that we know Kurumi didn't die D1, maybe it would have been nice to lynch him D1 and not waste D2 like that. But at that point, Palmar was suggesting we use D1's lynch on someone we thought was going to die, in order to guarantee the kill.a day 1 correct lynch is great. There is no reason to risk that being fucked with. I have no idea if mafia can bus/heal/block this shot from rol or not. I say we take what we have. If kurumi is mafia, which he most likely is, we're ahead, no matter what else happens. The lynch is our safety net, you can't fuck with the lynch. Again, sounds good in hindsight. But with very little planning for mafia D1, the best thing for them after a no-lynch would be to get a lynch on someone who was already going to die. If kurumi was really mafia, he was a goner, and lynching him ensured that only one mafia died. Pushing for that doesn't feel outwardly scummy, but a lynch on Kurumi or RoL would have been mafia's best option D1. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On July 23 2012 23:12 syllogism wrote: You are right, I think he messed up and forgot that RoL died first, though obviously he can't claim RoL's role as that could be tested immediately. If he gets to choose whose role he takes, there is no way he would take WBG's pardoner role as that's worthless. the thought that Palmar picks up a pardoner-power when he's town is just ridiculous  | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On July 23 2012 21:38 risk.nuke wrote: Q: Palmar can you pardon yourself? I have no idea and no will to find out. If I would pardon myself I'd only be giving the mafia one extra cycle of night kills, as you guys would lynch me anyway. When I flip, go kill syllo. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On July 23 2012 23:16 supersoft wrote: the thought that Palmar picks up a pardoner-power when he's town is just ridiculous At the time I thought BH was town, and I thought he'd get lynched. I actually meant to pardon him, which is pretty terrible. Sorry for the shitty play. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
Just let me flip. Then let the guys decide. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On July 23 2012 19:32 Palmar wrote: yeah whatever. I'm the Eager Intern, which means that I'm now bugs's role. I can obviously pardon someone to prove it, but that would be kinda counterproductive. I can pick up the role of a dead guy, and permanently become that role. town mimic that is a viable claim we can TEST whether or not he's lying with my role wish i had my ability now HOWEVER, you should definitely pardon yourself, regardless of alignment | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Still finding it odd to grab that role. Palmar said he found BH towny early, and I guess there wasn't a NEED to bring it up D2 or D3 since Kurumi was going to be lynched D2 and BH got VE-lynched without full votes. But it was clear that Palmar's arguments for town-BH D1 didn't fly and town still found BH scummy. So the result of a pardoned BH in that case would be what? Wouldn't we just lynch BH the next day? Unless Palmar could convince town that BH was town, a pardon would just negate a lynch that would happen again. No gain for town. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
First of all, I want you to explain what really happened this game: It's always the same, the scumvets and the townvets fight for the townleadership. 2 Townvets, syllogism and sandroba had an insanely strong start. + Show Spoiler + On July 16 2012 18:00 syllogism wrote: So do you think his play so far is indicative of him being mafia? If so, do you want him to change his behavior or do you want to lynch him? Do you always give people who you think may be mafia "heads up" so they can change their play? Moreover, do you think your "warning" will make him change his play? Hi sandroba, you around? On July 16 2012 19:09 syllogism wrote: My thoughts are that I would like to lynch you for this post. This reads like someone wanting to seem like they are contributing, but you are a smart person so you should know there is no reason to post something like this on day 1. You are basically announcing beforehand what you will consider mafia behavior and as town there is little reason to do that as you specifically want mafia to act according to your expectations. I knew that they were town from the first couple of posts. Foolishness and Palmar saw that, too. I know exactly that they saw it because they tried to attack both of them instantly. There is no way, that Palmar honestly thought that syllogism is scum at the end of day1. On July 17 2012 02:27 Palmar wrote: Supersoft nailed it. MVP. I'm going to stop playing and start working on a bronze statue of him to erect in my bathroom. he even tried to pull me on his side. So my first allegation is basically this: Palmar attacks Syllogism even though he knows that he's town. Second allegation: Some people are wondering why we chose Palmar all of a sudden, while I for example was defending him until n2. As you see, I faked it. + Show Spoiler + On July 17 2012 02:43 supersoft wrote: ah I corrected that list for you ;-) *stop going for palmar. All of you. That guy works best if you let him do his job. judge him based on his results not based on his playstyle. + this makes him the most hillarious player so far. We can't afford to lose him. On July 22 2012 03:01 supersoft wrote: Town-vets& 26. Palmar town 3. Sandroba town 11. Supersoft town ???-Vets& 6. Foolishness 10. Meapak_Ziphh 16. GGQ 7. VisceraEyes 15. syllogism Troll 8. Bill Murray 18. Chezinu dead 25. RebirthofLegend town 19. Kurumi town 13. Wherebugsgo town yes you do VE. I devided the playerlist in two parts. in these parts in another 3 parts *4 parts for this part. because 3 of this list are already dead. There were 13 players on that list. That means about 4 of them are scum. 3 of them are dead and one of them is me. 1 is sandroba and 1 is palmar. 2 of them are troll i cannot possibly read because they never make any sense. syllogism makes most sense of the 5 remaining players. leaves you, mz, foolish and GGQ if one of the trolls is scum and i made one mistake, 2 of you are scum On July 22 2012 03:40 supersoft wrote: no wtf are you doing to me. I refiltered palmar and I agree on everything he says except syllogism and katina. this was extremely fake. Sorry I had to do that, I wanted to lull Palmar into a false sense of security. On July 22 2012 04:15 supersoft wrote: maybe i am a vig and i don't want to misfire. :-D this however was extremely real. I had Palmars kill already typed in several times at n2. I was suspicious of Palmar right from the start, when he attacked syllo and sandro for no reason. I wanted to see how Palmar plays without pressure and we all saw it: He was fucking useless. Third: His roleclaim *facepalm* On July 23 2012 23:12 syllogism wrote: You are right, I think he messed up and forgot that RoL died first, though obviously he can't claim RoL's role as that could be tested immediately. If he gets to choose whose role he takes, there is no way he would take WBG's pardoner role as that's worthless. the thought that Palmar picks up a pardoner-power when he's town is just ridiculous LET'S LYNCH THAT SCUM | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
if he took it, he can pardon himself, test the claim i gotta go to bed i put both my votes on palmar | ||
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