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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 08 2012 04:19 GMT
#457
EBWOP I think if NSH wanted an easy mislynch...
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 08 2012 06:55 GMT
#461
On July 08 2012 15:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever I wanted to lynch prplhz. You're crazy.

I find Sinensis' assessment fairly scummy, and I'll give bonus points to anyone who can tell me why before I finish typing it up myself.


Is it because you're part of it? Did I get it right?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 08 2012 07:15 GMT
#464
On July 08 2012 15:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 13:03 Sinensis wrote:
Wow I thought I was going to be thrown under the bus for sticking to my gut (as per usual), and you guys go and kill someone completely different on nothing but gut and weak meta?

Keep an eye on those that switched votes from me to wiggles in my opinion.

That's sloosh, VE, and dangeresque. I would gamble one of them is mafia.


As a townie, it occurs to me that anyone switching off of me would get townie points from me if the target flips town in the lynch in question. Why? Because it doesn't make sense from a scum perspective to change from one townie to another and risk coming under scrutiny for late-switching. It makes much more sense, from a townie perspective, to assume that those who for whatever reason tried to find an alternative candidate and avoid a no-lynch scenario while switching off a known townie (myself) are town.

Fundamentally, it should make no sense from a scum perspective to switch late onto another townie, if Sinensis were town. That's why I think he's viewing the game from a different perspective - from a scum perspective.


People are usually scrutinized for late switching because it is scummy. You are trying to argue that because late switching is considered scummy, it isn't really scummy? Because scum don't act scummy, because that might draw attention to them?

I think you got yourself confused.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 08 2012 07:20 GMT
#465
I have an easier time believing that you just mixed yourself up trying to think "As a townie, "From a town perspective," being a "known townie (yourself)," "are town," etc.

Do you see what I did there. Your post is full of the stuff. What's with that?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 09 2012 02:56 GMT
#526
I think Zephirdd's posts about VE are making a lot of sense. I agree with him that VE is a good target today and I will be voting for him today unless new, critical, info developes about anyone else.

I have played many games with Bluelightz and I believe he is town this game and making one of the best efforts I've seen from him, I would be pretty shocked if he was mafia.

I am glad vig shot Zontar I was going to have some issues with her posting today if she were still alive.

I do not know if I still believe purplhz is cop, it's very unusual that he was not killed or at the very least role blocked, but I want to wait to see if he has something to say today.

I do not really have thoughts about anyone else at this stage.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 09 2012 03:51 GMT
#529
This is going to end poorly for town.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 09 2012 03:54 GMT
#530
EWBOP I should at least try to explain. You are right, I don't know prplhz was not roleblocked, I assumed he wasn't and wanted to see if he would clarify later. That's why I haven't voted. Because there is information I'm missing. The second part of that sentence you didn't bold was pretty important to the overall message.

Sigh.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 02:02 GMT
#640
Shit son you guys have been busy. Give me like a hour to catch up this is a lot of important stuff. Just got off work.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 02:58 GMT
#644
On July 09 2012 20:58 marvellosity wrote:
Sinensis: could you tell me any games you played as both scum and town please


I don't believe I've ever been scum in a TL game. Someone said I have been scum once earlier, but I don't remember that so maybe they know something I don't.

Also marv I changed my mind about zeph because he's saying things I agree with, simple as that.

I said before I was going to vote for VE in my last post, I'm still going to do that because of the things zeph said that I agree with, also the mess on page 30.

About zentor's "case" on me: I don't feel like I have to respond because all he has done is copy pasted what other people wrote day 1; things the original authors don't even consider to be an issue anymore. If the people who made the cases against me to begin with don't believe those cases anymore, why should anyone else? If anything I think him tunneling me for those reasons, that aren't his, is extremely suspicious.

I chose VE as the better target today because VE's posting is less focused and seems desperate; giving up. The fact that he insists that his own play is horrible and scummy isn't helping me.

Bluelightz wrote this:

On July 09 2012 14:43 Bluelightz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Alright, voting Sinensis + a case so he can respond and not bitch about people voting him for no reason




Case

First, what I find suspicious is that he threw a bunch of stuff to make his vote look more "big" and stuff,

On July 07 2012 12:42 Sinensis wrote:
Okay, I'm caught up:

sloosh, what are you doing? You vote wiggles with no explanation, people call you out for it, you change your vote to me with no explanation at first, people call you out for it, then your explanation is that I was your first suspicion (even though you randomly voted wiggles first?) because my posting is mechanical? My posting is mechanical and that's why I'm scummy, maybe you could elaborate on that. Even though you seem to have changed your mind again to prplhz before I responded to you. Are you just jumping on the easiest target every time? What's the deal?

Prplhz shouldn't be lynched today. No way in hell. He's gotten too much negative attention from too many people, it seems likely to me mafia is pushing for the easy lynch against an aggressive player. And why wouldn't they? prplhz isn't playing as good or as friendly as he could be. This is the last time I defend him against the rest of the angry mob unless he stops with the "LOL SCUM LOL."


I am going to go with gut for my day one vote. Zephirdd's posting is the scummiest right now in my opinion. He spends a lot of his time telling other, presumably town players, how to play. Something mafia can't seem to resist doing in most of the games I play. He is stating mostly FACTS (people talking like they know something for certain are suspicious because only mafia have FACTS) and very little speculation.

As for everyone who is suspicious of me for lurking, you're right, it's suspicious, my bad. I work during the day (USEAST) and can't post till night usually. Expect my posts then, like I'm doing now. If anyone has any questions for me now is a good time I will be around.

##vote: Zephirdd


1. As you can see, without the bunch of stuff its very small, also when you look at his reasons, he never explains why facts are scummy, he just says that mafia tend to do it and yada yada yada

On July 08 2012 04:48 Sinensis wrote:
I could probably swing this vote back onto someone else if I switched but I'm happy to be where I'm at. I'm going to leave it on Zephirdd till the end of the day and see if people are still mad about it. I still think he's scum but I'm the only one that would think that right now, so yeah, not budging.


2. He's being openly hostile and not helping to consolidate the vote which might've led to a no-lynch which is terrible because we lose valuable information (but it is a plus though that he stuck to his own thoughts then sheeping and vote switching like many people did on day 1).

On July 08 2012 13:03 Sinensis wrote:
Wow I thought I was going to be thrown under the bus for sticking to my gut (as per usual), and you guys go and kill someone completely different on nothing but gut and weak meta?

Keep an eye on those that switched votes from me to wiggles in my opinion.

That's sloosh, VE, and dangeresque. I would gamble one of them is mafia.


3. Then he points out X,Y, and Z, there's probably scum in between, this is just bullshit because he doesnt explain if X,Y, and Z is scummy (reasonless crap).



Those are just my thoughts but feel free to add on,

and ##Vote: Sinensis


1. In my post before this, I explained that I had missed a lot of the early action. I thought it would be beneficial to give my thoughts on important things that happened. All you did was cross out everything I said that... I don't know why you did that...

2. You just accused me of NOT helping consolidate the vote on myself? Why would I do that? Are people even allowed to vote for themselves?

3. I gave a reason, you just missed it. It's in the exact same post you quoted, one line above what you bolded. I said that they were suspicious because all three bandwagoned from wiggles, an innocent person and easy target, to me, another innocent person and easy target.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 02:59 GMT
#646
I forgot something

##vote: VisceraEyes
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 03:03 GMT
#649
On July 10 2012 12:00 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
Sinensis said
I don't believe I've ever been scum in a TL game. Someone said I have been scum once earlier, but I don't remember that so maybe they know something I don't.


Confirmation, he has never been scum on TL. I actually looked it up earlier.


While you're here and knowing all about me maybe you could confirm that I am also frequently stubborn, often to a fault.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 03:07 GMT
#651
On July 10 2012 12:02 Bluelightz wrote:
@Sinensis

1. You voted but you had to post 3 pargraphs of fluff first that's why I crossed it out, but that is a valid reason

2. On the drwiggl3s lynch not on yourself Sinensis, you just stuck up and that might've resulted in a no-lynch.

3. Bro, you didn't explain why switching was scummy, you just said it was scummy = reasonless.


1. IT. WASN'T. FLUFF. It was stuff YOU YOURSELF posted about earlier in the thread. Not all of that post had to do with the vote. I was CONSOLIDATING.

2. I didn't think wiggles was scum. I thought Zeph was scum. That's why I voted zeph, not wiggles.

3. Three people changing from one innocent bandwagoned target to another innocent target is scummy to me. Maybe I'm stupid for believe that. Maybe you should explain to me why I'm stupid for believing that if you have a problem with it.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 03:15 GMT
#655
On July 10 2012 12:14 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 12:07 Sinensis wrote:
On July 10 2012 12:02 Bluelightz wrote:
@Sinensis

1. You voted but you had to post 3 pargraphs of fluff first that's why I crossed it out, but that is a valid reason

2. On the drwiggl3s lynch not on yourself Sinensis, you just stuck up and that might've resulted in a no-lynch.

3. Bro, you didn't explain why switching was scummy, you just said it was scummy = reasonless.


1. IT. WASN'T. FLUFF. It was stuff YOU YOURSELF posted about earlier in the thread. Not all of that post had to do with the vote. I was CONSOLIDATING.

2. I didn't think wiggles was scum. I thought Zeph was scum. That's why I voted zeph, not wiggles.

3. Three people changing from one innocent bandwagoned target to another innocent target is scummy to me. Maybe I'm stupid for believe that. Maybe you should explain to me why I'm stupid for believing that if you have a problem with it.


No, your not stupid for believing that, you just didn't explain why you believed in that,(you) Finely explained the other points already too.


WHO ARE YOU WHAT IS GOING ON
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 03:21 GMT
#658
On July 10 2012 12:19 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
all he has done is copy pasted what other people wrote


I said that if I said why I think you're scum I would just be copying other people. -.-


What about the fact that the people you copied don't believe what they wrote anymore? Doesn't that mean you think I'm scum for literally zero reason?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 03:49 GMT
#660
On July 10 2012 12:44 MrZentor wrote:
Believe it or not, I formed my ideas off of your posts, and any copying of other people is coincidence.

Show nested quote +
What about the fact that the people you copied don't believe what they wrote anymore? Doesn't that mean you think I'm scum for literally zero reason?


Really? Really? That's a terrible reason. -.-


No matter how hard you try to get me to vote you I'm not going to. VE is my target right now. No quantity of emoticons or crap posts can change my mind, at least until VE changes it for me.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 04:23 GMT
#661
This is looking really bad though

On July 10 2012 12:19 MrZentor wrote:
I said that if I said why I think you're scum I would just be copying other people. -.-


On July 10 2012 12:44 MrZentor wrote:
Believe it or not, I formed my ideas off of your posts, and any copying of other people is coincidence.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 04:37 GMT
#663
On July 10 2012 13:29 MrZentor wrote:
Yeah, there are only a few things that define your scumminess, so when I try to make a case against you, I unintentionally "copy" their case.

Understand?


Every person's case you "unintentially copy" isn't voting for me. The person who lead every subsequent case on me thinks I'm 80% town.

Or is "their" only Bluelightz, who I answered to?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 10 2012 04:42 GMT
#665
On July 10 2012 13:39 MrZentor wrote:
I'm extremely confident you're scum.


And you're leading in votes.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 11 2012 01:54 GMT
#814
We're seriously going to get a no lynch today because VE whined for 5 pages?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 11 2012 01:55 GMT
#819
On July 11 2012 10:55 marvellosity wrote:
BL I'm trying to work out if it could just be a mistake


I am voting for you tomorrow if you don't vote today.
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