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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 14:51 GMT
#987
Zentor: why don't you just tell us what the random 3 names with no explanation was supposed to mean, eh?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 14:58 GMT
#989
that's a shit reason. was it just 3 random names? where did those names come from?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 15:07 GMT
#991
On July 13 2012 00:04 MrZentor wrote:
Well I think I paired two of the town leader's names with a scum's to see how people responded to the idea of you guys being scum, so I could tell if I was being paranoid or if I had reasonable fears.

I mean, that would be a good reason to do it, but I'm not sure if that's why I did it. I'm not entirely sure why I did it. :/


On July 12 2012 06:42 Zephirdd wrote:

Why would a town player make a scum list on night 1? There are a few reasons. Gauge reactions, look awesome if all three of them flip scum after the game.

Why would a scum player make a list on night 1? Create confusion, make a little ground to attack all of them later on the game.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 15:14 GMT
#994
I just hate the way you play, frankly.

Why post shit when there's no point to it and you can't even later explain it? How does this help town???
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 15:15 GMT
#996
You've not even answered my case, slOosh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 15:18 GMT
#998
I'm just saying Zentor. Have you ever sat down and wondered why you repeatedly get lynched in games?

Did you not make the logical leap that perhaps there were facets of your play that should be addressed?

You know, like not posting unexplainable crap?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 16:03 GMT
#1009
Not all posts push an agenda, slOosh. You keep asking "how does this push a scum agenda". Well, freaking out at the end of day 2 and getting me to lynch a powerful townie, that's a pretty scummy agenda (again, others were expressing doubts, but you refused to even entertain the notion he was town).

You've played/obsed enough games with VE in. What he did in this game was nothing compared to the spam/crap/whatever he can put into a thread. I don't believe your massive overreaction to it was genuine.

Again, I will take the time later to read your cases.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 16:05 GMT
#1013
You were making a jab at me for not doubting prplhz's claim, when I clearly had on several occasions
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 16:13 GMT
#1015
I was using VE's post because he said what I wanted to say on the matter as well as I could.

I went back and re-read from where you linked. 5 posts VE made there, none which were particularly awful. Like, I couldn't remember the episode without looking because it was so unremarkable. To use that as an excuse for giving up on seeing him as town is... well, scummy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 21:41 GMT
#1017
slOosh, why would scum use their delay last night?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 21:43 GMT
#1018
you already answered that. nvm. Despite my silence and posting of things on other threads I'm trying to organise my thoughts on this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 21:45 GMT
#1019
The silence of people like prplhz/Danger/Bluelightz is really pissing me off.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 21:55 GMT
#1023
I'm going to crucify you post-game if you're town, prplhz.

WHY PLAY LIKE THAT IF YOU'RE COP. goddamnit.

I went and re-read the lynch day 2 again. I just can't get over his behaviour, it's not right.

slOosh; some of your cases make sense. But ultimately actions (lynch day 2) count more than words (cases after the fact).
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 12 2012 21:55 GMT
#1024
"I just can't get over his behaviour" - his = slOosh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2012 00:34 GMT
#1026
I did have a thought about your cases.

They basically rest on the fact that both blue claims are false, and that there is a scum roleblocker. On balance reasons we must have at least another blue, if not 2.

In this situation (basically lylo) I think any blues should claim. We need maximum information right now, their survival through the night is kinda irrelevant.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2012 01:22 GMT
#1030
On July 13 2012 09:45 slOosh wrote:
Really? You don't think the weird manner he assess the cop claim & outing himself & considering Zeph as confirmed strange at all, as well as his outing medic dealio has any grounds?

Or is the ballsyness of the situation too much balls to be considered as plausible?
(prplhz scum D77 scum and they lie about prplhz roleblock and have D77 pretend to be jailor, Zeph's alignment irrelevant to plan but treatment of Zeph still strange.)


that wasn't really my point, my point is if everything you say was true, we'd have another blue out there and they should claim, to limit our choices down.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2012 14:13 GMT
#1033
why haven't you addressed my point about blues claiming that I've said twice now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2012 14:23 GMT
#1036
Ya at this point I'm just depressed that this game died.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2012 14:36 GMT
#1038
On July 13 2012 23:34 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 10:02 Dangeresque77 wrote:
On July 13 2012 09:31 slOosh wrote:

prphlz plays cop like that because he is most likely scums.
D77 looks like he is dodging my medic question. This guy can't be newb town.

If you won't be swayed off my lynch, can we at least talk about my cases? I'm curious to see what people think of them, apart from the people they are directed to. Starting with D77 since it seems the most straightforward of my cases / "newb" players tend to be easier to read.


So your case on me is that I'm digging your medic question? I answere it like 2 pages ago
I've read your case on me. The only points you bring up
Is that i think prplhz and zeph are town and that "I was trying to get a medic to claim" wich I wasn't
I'll say it again so u can understand. I was trying to ask people their thought on the possibility of a medic and me heinz the same person to block the strongarm.

You once again acknowledge my points but choose to focus on the "easier" one, and on that you still haven't explained how the whole possibility of a medic helps us kill scum.

I'll lay it out for everyone:
From scum perspective, they have 1kp. Perhaps they have 2kp from strongarm.
If D77 is town jailor, they will know that a marv prot is certain. Therefore, unless they had 2kp from strongarm, they wouldn't make the shot on marv - it just doesn't make sense. It is totally sensible to shoot D77 - I mean, no one suspects him, everyone has basically accepted that he is jailor.

If they did have 2kp, maybe they shot marv, and since we had an additional medic prot, he didn't die. However, this still doesn't explain why knowing that it is this situation rather than scum using delay helps us. What is to gain from outing the medic? Will it not result in more surefire shots from the scum team? How does it help town at all to know the possible presence of a strongarm which has already been used up?


D77 isn't asking people thoughts on possibilities, he is straight up asking medic to claim.
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 11:46 Dangeresque77 wrote:
i jailed marvel

which brings the quesion. is there a medic here?

This isn't asking about the possibility of a medic - he is inviting medics to claim.


1) it confirms danger
2) it confirms the medic basically

Two less people to consider for lynch at lylo

not bad odds

who gives a shit if the medic is outed at this point?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2012 14:38 GMT
#1041
On July 13 2012 23:36 slOosh wrote:
Which supports my theory that scum used delay and are trying to out the medic for the surefire win since they win when they outnumber town, and if somehow there are two protects these next two nights it will be 4 town 3 scum or 3 town 3 scum and game would still continue.


5-3 now right? Scum could have had a practically guaranteed shot at a suspicious/non-obvious townie bringing it to 4-3

There would be no reason to try a plan to out the medic to get extra kills when they forfeited the chance to kill a townie last night, it makes no sense
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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