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On July 04 2012 06:30 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 05:42 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 04 2012 05:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
Omfg I'm so sorry, my Internet went completely down earlier today and by the time I got to the nearest Internet cafe they were closed T_T then we got out the new router we had brought and we just fixed it now
We should follow greymists reads and go over his filter This shit is easy. You are Mafia and Zealos is not leaving S&B or Mattchew for the last mafia spot. Greymist said we should kill Zealos. Why should we follow his reads instead of the other ones Oberyn gave? Where's the difference and why should we follow Greymist instead of someone else? Not that that makes you mafia, but can anyone believe that in a situation like this: Obe + Grey + WBG + Nova would do a no-kill on n2? Why not just hit Nova or me. There's no way this can be right. Nova's got to be mafia, that's why they didn't want to confirm shoot into either Nova or me because that would confirm the other guy. I'm sure as hell town, Obe just flipped town and so did Grey. That means you're mafia pal. Wat I meant we should follow the logic Of his reads and see what they mean now, not blindly sheep them, srsly? Also what is this, why would scum shoot either of us instead of oberyn? Or am I misunderstanding something? Cause if that's what you mean you really need to think more Also I've been thinking from a perspective where all of us 4 were town and that makes perfect sense to me, why can't 4/9 players be town?
Mafia shot Ober n1
Mafia shot noone n2
Mafia shot Obe n3
Why didn't they shoot either you or me n2 when we're both town? No point in hiding "confirmation" unless they want to protect someone.
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On July 04 2012 08:36 Fulla wrote:
Actually might be best to let him attack someone. Ugh got some thinking to do.
I'd say having him on 3HP is just fine right now. Didn't think someone is able to dish out that much dmg lol :p
No need to finish him just yet from your point of view.
Yes you're right, either he is mafia or I am, I know I am not so I don't mind seeing him dead right now but from your point of view the town read on me could as well just be wrong, so you usually want to wait and see if he posts something when he's barely alive. With him being on 3 HP he knows he'll die either way.
Mafias usually don't bother the stress of faking reads when it's going to be invain anyways because they're about to die.
Townies usually end up posting some big walls of texts shortly before dying.
So from your point of view you should wait and see what happens and either kill him 15 minutes prior to the deadline or kill me instead. Or tap his creatues and kill him in the attacking phase.
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On July 04 2012 09:36 Fulla wrote:
Were please tell me what do you think of Matt?
You're probably going to die unless you have a heal, Nova is scum, that makes it [b]Nova+Matt considering how he punched you to the mafia KP treshhold.
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oh and Prom is paranoid just like I was earlier I guess. This time we win this :3
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On July 05 2012 01:47 Fulla wrote:
I could instead inflict 10 damage to Matthew...
or 3 to nova, 7 to Matthew.
looks good to me. The 2nd one that is.
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On July 05 2012 02:03 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 01:57 Fulla wrote:
Prom my man,
I need your thoughts on this?
I'd hate to be the guy who looses this for town :p You must the your job as executioner then
I thought I am mafia because I am stupid.
Mattchew is mafia because he hit Fulla down to 16HP.
Zealos is mafia for shooting you down to 3HP
and now Fulla is mafia too?
Oh man, had I known this was a 4v5 set-up I would have played this totally different.
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On July 05 2012 02:40 Fulla wrote:
Were at first you urged me to not jump the gun and let him live?
Now you're happy to see him die, what made you change?
Well I still want you to wait and not shoot him just yet. We have 30 hours left. No need to waste them.
I don't have a problem with you shooting him in general (a little later), that's why I said I wouldn't mind that.
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On July 05 2012 04:29 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 02:16 WereBugs-Go wrote:On July 05 2012 02:03 Nova_Terra wrote:On July 05 2012 01:57 Fulla wrote:
Prom my man,
I need your thoughts on this?
I'd hate to be the guy who looses this for town :p You must the your job as executioner then I thought I am mafia because I am stupid. Mattchew is mafia because he hit Fulla down to 16HP. Zealos is mafia for shooting you down to 3HP and now Fulla is mafia too? Oh man, had I known this was a 4v5 set-up I would have played this totally different. Wat?
I thought that's the ongoing assumption by you at the moment. We're giving you time instead of insta-killing you 2 hours in the day to give you an oppertunity to dish out some reads. Seems like you're not interessted in doing so.
All I see is people getting paranoid, saying I myself might be mafia who shot Obe & Grey because surely I was so super afraid of them telling everyone how much a townie I am that I was shooting Obe isntead of someone else and pushing for Greymists death instead of someone else. Yeah that makes perfect sense.
Also Fulla and I said Mattchew is mafia for multiple reasons. Fulla mostly referring to Mattchew shooting him below the mafia KP threshold. You don't seem to disagree with that. If I remember correctly you think the same and wanted to attack Mattchew for a shitton of damage, didn't you?
You just said You must [hate] your job as executioner then about Fulla. I'd say that looks like you think he's mafia as well or why would he be an executioner? How does that make sense with what was just said about Mattchew being mafia because he attacked Fulla ?
And on top of that we have the guy who shot you, Zealos who surely got to be mafia as well according to you as you just singlehandedly reduced you to 3HP.
That's a little too much red coloring for my point of view. Not to mention that it's not making sense at all. You're simply Mattchews buddy telling people he's mafia when you're down to 3HP and clearly dead no matter what, to make people doubt themselves and safe Mattchew.
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good job. I guess I don't need to use the spellbomb after all and can spend the mana on something else. Spellbombing one of mattchews goblins isn't realy worth the fuzz. I'd rather just have him use those for defence when my 5/3 myr attacks :3
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On July 06 2012 20:11 strongandbig wrote:
Umm
ITS STILL ZEALOS YOU FOOLS
imo anyway
I guess it could also be fulla/wbg
I need to talk some things over with my brother or whatever
Yeah so anyway - WBG what do you have to say for yourself after your "there's no way we could all be green" thing?
Just give me one reason why I should say such a thing as mafia? I'm bringing myself into 1v1 and we're both going to die if I was wrong no matter of alignment. The only reason to say something like that is when you're really convinced and I was really convinced it couldn't be us 4 all green...
Just give me one reason why I should have shot Gonzaw of all the people as mafia? The guy kept telling people I'm town all the time. If I were mafia I would have GLADLY let him survive and would have attacked someone else n1 to begin with. This makes no sense, why should I attack the guy who is backing me up all the time and finish him off?
Just give me one reason why I should have attacked Greymist openly? The guy, just like gonzaw, said I'm town and although I kept attacking him never changed his attitude on me, he kept on saying I'm probably retarded townie.
Don't give me "mafia was afraid of his deck and that's why you wanted him dead". If mafia was afraid of his deck they would have killed with in 2 shots with their mafia-beast instead of dealing with him with those 1/1 creatures openly...
I got fooled by this wifom play on d2... I need to reread things. I guess we're not having enough time for that though and Prom is already attack me for whatever reason, tapping my myr enforcer. Surely, tapping creatures so they can't attack is the way to go when we're dealing with a 14/1 mafiabeast that is not attackable nor blockable nor something else.
This is a game of time right now and you're tapping my 5/3 creature so I can't attack? Why? I even announced I'll attack mattchew with my creatures, who you think to be mafia as well with that creature, so even if you believe I am mafia (for whatever reason): worst case scenario would be "Toad is mafia but is helping Town to get towncred by attacking Mattchew". Surely I see why you would try to avoid that [/sarcasm]
So why don't you want that? Clearly it can't be a reason of blocking because I wouldn't block with my enforcer to begin with, mostly because it can't fly as you might have realized, so really the only purpose can be to make sure I can't attack.
That being said I'm probably going to attack Prom with what I've got (1 Hovermyr, yeha...)
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On July 06 2012 23:37 Fulla wrote:
Prom if you suspect Matt why don't you finish him off? Why go for WBG...
Were same to you.
super secret. Can explain tomorrow :3
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or during the blocking phase that is
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Reasoning for not attacking Matt was: I had only 1 monster that can attack thanks to prom, my Hovermyr and it's only 1 AttackPower.
Both Fulla and Matt were at or below mafia treshhold and I figured either Matt or Fulla were going to be eliminated by mafia KP.
I though it's more likely that Fulla is going to be attacked and Matt is the mafia but there was no need to attack with 1Power into either of those 2 when I thought it's very likely that mafia is going to help me decide on what to attack the next cycle anyways. However with Matt attacking Fulla head on and mafia attacking S&B it might be they think they're able to kill him without using the mafia beast and therefore went for S&B who will be very low now as well.
That's why I attacked my 2nd mafia read rather than my 1st.
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I guess I'll equip my Skullclamp to one of my Hovermyrs. Those are 2/3 strong which is 4 flying damage, with it it's 5 flying damage at least...
If you're considering to play WoF I'm waiting those 24 hours though, maybe I get something damagy on my hand.
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Yeah I'll attack him, but I'm going to die along with him as you mentioned...
You are probably going to die and S&B as well.
I don't have damage that is done before the attack phase
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On July 07 2012 08:20 Fulla wrote:
Our only hope is Zeal drawing a tendrils then.
Or perhaps strong has something up his sleeves?
WoF need 3 mana to cast.
Tentrils needs 4 mana to cast.
So he really would need something.
We also need to figure out what to do with the global card. Clearly Zealos is the one to use it because he is the only one with HP left... but we need to split the damage or the targeted creature will just be tapped.
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Btw I am probably going to spellbomb proms legendary creature with protection from creatures either way.
If you use WoF he completly looses that creature because I bring it back to his hand -> he puts all cards to graveyard -> he draws 7 new cards and can't play it again.
I'm saying that because as mentioned spellbombing one of mattchews goblins just isn't worth the fuzz ...
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On July 08 2012 00:59 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 00:05 WereBugs-Go wrote:
Btw I am probably going to spellbomb proms legendary creature with protection from creatures either way.
If you use WoF he completly looses that creature because I bring it back to his hand -> he puts all cards to graveyard -> he draws 7 new cards and can't play it again.
I'm saying that because as mentioned spellbombing one of mattchews goblins just isn't worth the fuzz ... what about my plan to kill off the four of us who are already in range of the beast or else for the three of you to die and me to get killed by the beast? are you willing to pay a bunch of life to kill off mattchew? @mattchew if fulla is scum then great but i'm not convinced and we can't really afford to wait. Do you disagree with me that reducing this game to zealos vs prome is the best way for town to achieve victory?
That plan is stupid. Why should we do the work mafia has to do themselves? Yes we would get into something like a 1v1 situation while the mafia beast can focus on Zealos.
You have exactly one turn to kill someone with your plan and I don't think that's enough for Zealos to kill someone on his own except for those with low life.
The very same plan works without killing 4 people as well. If we're not going to follow this plan of yours we're forcing mafia to kill those people like me somehow with a mafia-beast-hit which means one more cycle for Zealos to do his combo if we don't do your plan.
If we follow your plan mafia will focus on Zealos and you've got exactly and only one cycle left to kill the mafia and I don't think that's possible with prom having 27HP.
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On July 08 2012 01:21 Fulla wrote:
Were, might be best to spellbomb, one of Matt's creatures.
If I can stay alive just 1 more turn, with a fresh hand of 7 cards I can cast a few burns spells on Matt & Prom.
Since Prom & Matt will both attack me together, I doubt I'll survive thou.
That's my point.
Spellbombing one of Matts goblins will prevent 1 damage you can block either way.
Spellbombing proms legendary will prevents 3 damage from a flying creature that is unblockable even if you have flying.
I don't see a reason to spellbomb a 1/1 goblin if I can just spellbomb that legendary thing which will end up helping you / us way more.
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On July 08 2012 01:26 Zealos wrote:Ok, I'm gonna use WOF (Sorry Artanis  <3) I'm also gonna use the Global as much as possible, and then decide who to attack this evening.
Make sure to spread it at least a little bit. If you give +10/+0 to a single creature that can be easily countered.
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