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Okay so far looking at the thread I agree with the FOS that has been pointed towards BroodKingEXE. If he's on VE's radar already that it's worth looking at. I read through BKE's filter and noticed that he spends a lot of time talking about noobs and what it means to be a noob, and policy lynching lurkers day one. The stuff he says is something anyone can say and it appears as if he's just trying to blend in. I'm going to put my vote on him for now. ##Vote BroodKingEXE | ||
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Casualman has caught my attenion with his phase 2 talk as he called his self vote. I'm curious to see more from him and find out what he has to say at a later. I still find BKE suspicious for the reasons that have been stated. He seems more interested in defending his lack of noobiness then helping the town. | ||
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So far you have accused mkmk of being scum and defending BKE. What are your reasonings to thinking that BKE is town? Do you have any other reads? | ||
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On July 01 2012 12:26 BroodKingEXE wrote: Guys, Im up for lynching Kat. The justification of Kat voting for me is: VE and Im trying to blend in. Hiding behind VE’s accusation is a way for her when the vote goes bad and make herself look better to anybody else who views VE as a likely town. Im trying to blend in? Lots of other people are blending in, I got a list of lurkers in my notes to prove it. If I was Mafia wouldn’t it make more sense to wait and post later or not at all to blend in? Next Post Falls in with the Casual and BKE crowd interestingly the only two major candidates up at the time. Yo, what?! You want us to continue a losing trend? You’re basically saying you support Day1 bandwagons on townies. So far you have provided zip evidence for you vote for me, much less info on the rest of the town. I'm not hiding behind anything. I am ready to take full responisbility for my actions if things go wrong. I have played in enough games with VE to get a good town read on him so far this game. Until I see something that proves my read on him wrong. No it wouldn't make sense to do so. So when things go wrong you can hide behind the fact that you have posts and are trying to "help" the town. Mafia do may different things from attacking each other in thread to lurking to leading the town. No I don't want to continue a losing trend. Don't take what I'm saying out of context. It was clearly sarcasm. I provide as much evidence as I can get day one. I can add attacking your attacker to the list of evidence as well. If there is something you wish to no then please feel free to ask. I will tell you whatever you want to know. On July 01 2012 23:47 Acrofales wrote: Regarding Katina. I feel Katina is a bit like Mattchew this game. Both are rather good players and neither have put any effort at all into playing. Both of them should be clearer reads when they start posting. Atm I'm null on Katina: she reads like someone who has put no effort at all into reading the thread, sheeped VE and went afk again. This could be scum, but could also be a lazy/busy townie who is putting no effort into the game and sheeps a veteran. Seems like a bad lynch candidate atm. I have been busy this weekend and I'm trying my best to get in and post when I can. I'm not sheeping VE. I found what he had to say about BKE was interesting. After looking over his filter for myself I got suspicious and posted against him. I think that agreeing with another player is a bad reason to think someone is suspicious. | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:31 EchelonTee wrote: Mattchew, adam, ve, katina; is the mK lynch good to you? Something feels a bit fishy; I need reassurance or a cold slap in the face. We narrowly have time for a mass switch; only other option I see as feasible and good is a BM lynch. I don't like the mkmk lynch. I think that it happened all too easily. I don't think he's scummy enough to feel comfortable to lynch D1. There are other good candidates we should be focusing on like BKE or casualman. The general rule with BM is if he is causing chaos in the thread than he's town. So far he swearing and yelling at people and calling people out on their crap. There's more reason to think BM is town than Mafia. It reminds me of when people kept killing VE because he's VE. I would sooner lynch BKE or casualman than BM. | ||
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I was surprised to see that the mkmk lynch didn't go through. Good idea. But to lynch Fox. Bad Idea. @ NoSmurf: I love your random list of people to kill without providing any explanation to why. Then your response to Mattchew was just darling. I'm geting a scum vibe from you. Don't you think if you were town then you would more than happy to provide information to your list? BKE is still scummy to me. I'm getting a town vibe from Mattchew. | ||
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On July 03 2012 07:56 Twelve wrote: I just honestly think im gonna get killed tonight because of how hard I was hounding BKE, who i still think is scum. NoSmurfsHere defends BKE multiple times, and ultimately is the one who started the foxtrotter bandwagon. His post seems EXTREMLY suspicious given what we know to be true now. Bright side: We will have a direction and know who to lynch when day comes. Whoever dies tonight, we need to go back and look through their filter. | ||
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I see there has been a lot of talk about me today and I'm sorry I haven't been here to defend myself. There was so much I don't even know where to start. I noticed that there has been talk about my meta and that I haven't been digging much into reads and filters. In a big game like this there are so many people that I'm looking at, I just post my vibes for now until I see more from each player. I'm going to get make my case now on a worthy subject and I will post it as soon as I am done. To the batcave!!! | ||
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On July 03 2012 09:10 casualman wrote: lynch drwiggles On July 03 2012 11:33 casualman wrote: guys lynch visceraeyes What's interesting about this is he later agrees with VE's point about Vivax being scummy. He definetly has a lot of changes of heart. It reminds me of a spoiled kid that makes his parents buy him toys that he never wants. On July 03 2012 11:52 casualman wrote: you are just slipping incredibly much. i don't have to defend myself because i'm obviously town. Here he uses the BM defense "I'm obviously town so don't even think about killing me" BM loves to play that card when he is Mafia. I'm going to vote for casualman to see if he wants to come out and play ##Vote: casualman Now for Mandalor: I challenge you all to read his filter and ask yourself "What has he done this game?" The disturbing thing about his filter is after reading it when I tried to remember what he talked about. I couldn't think of anything. He has posts, yes but they are almost worthless. In his filter he has a lot against Mattchew. Or does he? Recently he said he wanted to kill him however if you look at his filter closely he never gives reasoning behind it. He will talk about Mattchew's posts but never directly call him Mafia. Lookie: On July 02 2012 06:57 Mandalor wrote: Okay one more post I guess. I don't understand his reasoning. It just looks like the desperate try to start a bandwagon. That's what looks fishy to me. Plus the newbie-theory which would just open up another characteristic of mafia to act like. As I said you're putting words in my mouth. You desperately try to make me look bad without hard evidence. People have called me out earlier and you just join in. No matter what happens tonight, I will remain on people's radar and you solidify that by inventing and implying stuff I never said. He says Mattchew is putting words in his mouth which I agree with but he doesn't seem to have the balls to call him out. It's like he subtly wants us to believe he's going for Mattchew but in reality there's no actual case nor is there any reasoning. This is definetly consistant with Mafia behavior. Not matter what Mattchew flips he will be able to take the side to look like he was right all the time. For the record I think Mattchew is town but if he flips Mandalor will be able to play it off easy. Other than that, what has he done really? Nothing. He says BKE is scum but hasn't said anything about how or why since beginning of day 1. He's said multiple times that he doesn't think Mattchew's list is all-town. Which is a pretty derpy thing to say when you consider the actual odds of it being all-town. Even so he doesn't give reasoning why he thinks that way. Neither of these guys have past games to go by. I'm not going to count Mandalor's games from 3 years ago, all he did was play inactive no matter what role he was. I say we kill casualman first for doing the coagulation thing, but Mandalor is equally attractive. As for BKE, I still think that he is suspicious. He jumps all over the place and made some very questionable posts in the beginning of the game and lots of people saw this. I would like to kill the above two people more than him right now. Hyaach, I think he's suspicious and I would be fine with lynching him but I'm going to push for the others before him. Some of the arguements against him I think are unjust and the sudden attention on him seems all too convienent. I'll look into him further as the day goes on. | ||
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I was merely posting my thoughts since I said I would and I have been busy for a lot of this time and haven't been posting as much as I would like. | ||
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On July 04 2012 18:19 Vivax wrote: Lynch twelve or katina. I think Shiao has posted enough to be estimated better once the two of them flip. Katina ignoring so many scummy players to suspect Adam is just ridiculous. I think I've found something to Adam's defense. I'm not ignoring them, I just don't think that ET or Twelve is Mafia. I admit they are scummy in some way or another but it's not strong enough to lynch them just yet. On July 04 2012 19:18 ShiaoPi wrote: Dropping by before going out. @NSH: I'll explain my vote on hyaach again. I used the term "aggressive" on BM as in he is throwing around suspicions wildly with not much more than a hunch. Now to hyaach's aggression, I was only asking him on his opinions/reads and he responds with a straight out "no, don't like you" and when other people also ask him he goes "why should I share a case?". It is just unfathomable to me why he does not want to share with town. I also defended vivax since I know from experience that he might be an "easy" mislynch (did that already), so at least to me there is enough reason to defend him. @Katina/Twelve: Why do you want to lynch the useless troll? Won't give us anything besides flipping a coin on alignment. Then we have on person narrowed down and can focus elsewhere. Even useless trolls can turn out to be Mafia. On July 04 2012 22:09 Mandalor wrote: I got my vote on either Katina or Twelve right now. Katina pretty much just followed VE's thoughts on Day1, semi defended BM and now made a case of casualman who imo cannot be read and better be ignored for now. Twelve. As MattChew pointed out earlier, he accused the two most popular lynch candidates without providing a basis for this. Just an hour after mK was modkilled and flipped green, he says how it was "a lurker lynch [he] really didn't agree with". How convenient to post that after the modkill and never mention mK before. I agree with VE's thoughts, yes. It was D1 and I had a town read on him and he's a good player. So of course I would be inclined to consider what he says and look at the person myself then come up with my conclusion. I semi defended BM because I wanted to see more from him. He's hard to read at first. I was expressing my thoughts in my recent post. I didn't know that posting on a lurker (along with several others that aren't lurkers was scummy.... | ||
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On July 05 2012 03:29 ghost_403 wrote: I find the gap in him posting his Foxtrotter vote and him expalining his Foxtrotter vote... disconcerting. If missing the deadline really was his main concern there, why wouldn't you immediately post after the flip "Well, shit. I know him IRL, and he posted scummy so I voted for him, lol, my bad"? Instead, he waits for people to make a big deal about it. His actions there were of the "too scummy to be scum" variety, but maybe he's just bad scum? That and all the stuff Acro said. ##vote twelve I want to hear why he thinks we should be lynching casualman. His filter doesn't really give a good reason for it. I want to hear Katina's thoughts on Twelve. Also, where's Majujuju been? He dropped in, voted 12 and has been gone ever since. I don't think that Twelve is Mafia. From what I have seem from his filter he explains himself and his actions. He has been concise in explaining his actions. One thing I don't like though is he doesn't seem to be doing a lot of analysis. | ||
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On July 05 2012 09:29 austinmcc wrote: Blech. Removing my vote from ET. If he gets replaced, I'm all for lynching whoever comes in. Sorry replacement guy! Still can't reconcile 12's earlier nonsense with scum. Maybe it's a great tactic to get pushed aside and not be considered for a lynch, but if that was the plan it's failed miserably. I assume people are gone and we can't get traction on another lynch, but I could vote ShiaoPi or Katina atm. ShiaoPi I mentioned before, it's an odd read mainly based on the fact that we haven't agreed on some of our reads this game. Katina got some pressure early this cycle. It was her birthday, so to some extent the lack of filter is explained by that. When she returned, she addressed the pressure by getting active for a moment. After the pressure died down on her though, look at some of the posts from later in the day: Just some very bland reasoning. Broad statements that look like they give reads, but they're kind of...airy? 12 has concisely explained himself and his actions (I disagree with her here). Vivax has been sincere, posted a decent amount, given opinions, and seems to be putting effort into scum hunting. This just feels...off. Like they're the read equivalents of someone trying to convince you they can communicate with the dead by throwing out really broad statements and letting your mind fill in the blanks for them. Sorry Katina. While I appreciate your cookie, with ET out of the running for tonight my vote's going on you. As for this post against me, I don't think any of these things are airy. I said that I think Twelve and Vivax are town. Neither of them have given a full analysis on someone. Which is troublesome but at the same time neither of them have been afraid to post their thoughts. You're basically saying my wording is off? That's hardly a reason for wanting to kill me. Furhtermore just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I'm Mafia. A lot of people have been doing that this game. Accusing someone who thinks they are Mafia or accusing someone who disagrees with them. If you think Twelve isn't concise and is Mafia then you need to prove me wrong because from his filter it is evidence to me that he is town. | ||
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On July 05 2012 10:39 NoSmurfHere wrote: like, who knows why she stepped up contribution. It could be because she's scum and got scared into it, or because she's town and she legitimately has time now. However the content of her contributions is pretty useless. She wanted to lynch casualman and her thoughts on most of my reads were this: I didn't clarify my reads on Maju/Adam but basically I lumped them together because they were two lurkers who I thought had opposite alignments. as for the first two I thought both were scum at the time. Ultimately she backed down from both ET and twelve. Understandable NOW in retrospect based on the vote switch, but honestly she didn't do any work in pushing her lynch nor did she do any work in stopping twelve'ET from being lynched. She only commented on them when she was forced to comment by other players. Pretty sure she's scum for this because as town she fights to get her lynch of choice. I recall in Emergency she tunneled Blazinghand for hours because she basically knew him to be scum. She did similar things in Liar Game with Palmar and in countless other games where I've seen her be ignored by townies yet be completely 100% correct. Here her reads are being ignored because they're bad, and she's not pushing them either. We all know she's really good as town but she's not displaying this. It's because I actually have time now. Not because I'm scum and got scared into it. I didn't think ET and Twelve were Mafia to begin with. As I have said in my other posts I think they are town. There wasn't much I could do to stop Twelve or ET from being lynched. I have learned that once the town makes up there mind there is almost no way to convince them otherwise. I have defended Twelve, that was really all I could do. I didn't comment because I was forced to. I commented because my opinion was asked and I have nothing to hide so I gave it. Despite what other people think and whether they agree with me or not. I'm going to keep defending Twelve, and tomorrow either casualman or Mandolar should be lynched. I will also support a BKE lynch as I still think he is Mafia as well. If you remember from my pass games I do go after more than other person and change my target as the game progresses and I learn more. So many people this game are just accusing others because they disagree or attacking their attackers. Most of the accusations aren't even related to any Mafia behavior. Derp, Derp! (I don't speak this language so I hope I didn't just call someone a nasty name, Sorry!) This whole game has basically been all based on Meta and not of what is actually going on but I'm sure we at least got two Mafia in casualman, Mandalor, and BKE if not all three. | ||
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On July 05 2012 10:51 NoSmurfHere wrote: yeah she's basically saying a whole bunch of stuff but then not advancing any opinions on anyone. Since when have we known town Katina to have ignored 6 or 7 scummy players in the game? At the very least she will have acknowledged them or read them as scummy. She might be focused on one person but she isn't totally focused on that one person. I remember in MTG she was sort of like this. She tunneled some townie endlessly for no reason even when everyone else considered that guy just to be playing somewhat badly. Her play is a bit different here (she asked me postgame how to improve and maybe that's why) but not particularly different. If she steps up her game tomorrow then I'll gladly back off but her reads are too convenient for me to believe she is town. How are they too convenient? I only saw one other person suspect Mandalor. People have ignored casualman since day one. The amount of pushing for BKE is meh. You want convenient how about the large number of people who want to kill Twelve and ET or me? | ||
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On July 05 2012 01:29 Katina wrote: I'm not ignoring them, I just don't think that ET or Twelve is Mafia. I admit they are scummy in some way or another but it's not strong enough to lynch them just yet. Then we have on person narrowed down and can focus elsewhere. Even useless trolls can turn out to be Mafia. I agree with VE's thoughts, yes. It was D1 and I had a town read on him and he's a good player. So of course I would be inclined to consider what he says and look at the person myself then come up with my conclusion. I semi defended BM because I wanted to see more from him. He's hard to read at first. I was expressing my thoughts in my recent post. I didn't know that posting on a lurker (along with several others that aren't lurkers was scummy.... | ||
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On July 05 2012 11:10 austinmcc wrote: Right. But then You had him town. Then I got a cookie, and it looked like you were going to be suspicious of ET if he didn't 'splain himself. Yes, I suspicious of ET and waiting for him to come in and defend himself or post a read. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt since I have played with him a few times and knew how he acted. I wrote him off as town for now until I saw either his post or his defense. But when neither came and people switching their votes I was curious to the outcome. If I was truly convinced about him being Mafia I would switched my vote. | ||
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On July 05 2012 11:13 NoSmurfHere wrote: You had reads but didn't explain them. If you don't explain why you have reads on the main candidates then you can't expect to actually contribute, right? Upon rereading your filter I've noticed that some of the things I've said are wrong. I don't think Mandalor is scum given that he was one of the only players Adam seriously attacked. It could have been an early distancing attempt but I find that a bit unlikely given that Adam gave some fairly strong reasoning for it. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now. Why do you think ShiaoPi is town? Didn't say I thought he was town, didn't say I thought he was Mafia either. I have a null read on him right now. I'll look at him again. There have been other people that I have been paying more attention too this game. Like casualman, notice how he showed up right after the lynch happened and graced us with another lovely post of his. | ||
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On July 05 2012 20:03 Vivax wrote: Ok, so twelve considered his life to be more valuable than that of somebody he believed to be town. This is arguably not pro-town, but a lot of townies might have done the same in his spot. Katina, can you post a list of your opinions regarding all players? Needless to say I might use it against you, it really depends on what you write there. You don't need to give long explanations, just guess the players' alignment. Okay, here's that list. I think these three people are Mafia: BKE causalman Mandalor I think these people are town: VE Twelve Mattchew NSH Kurumi People I'm leaning suspicous on: Maju Hyaach grush Everyone else is null. On July 05 2012 23:12 ghost_403 wrote: Hey Kat, what do you think about Maju? As I just stated in the list above I find him suspicious. He doesn't really do anything. He tried to contribute day one so people wouldn't suspect him. Then he went inactive and once people started to notice he came back and started posting one liners. On July 06 2012 02:03 MajuGarzett wrote: Why do people suddenly want to kill me? How does thinking that my response to one question is insufficient supersede the last 2 days of discussion on 12, Katina, etc. He seems to try and divert attention off himself. It's not to say his point isn't true but at the same time this is a pretty inactive player who is telling us to stop looking at him. | ||
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On July 06 2012 16:21 Hyaach wrote: i want to lynch katina. the pickup in activity just seem to convienent. same as the reads his giving out. almost null people or just general disruption to town. his case are also weak and his not pushing for any. just post to slip by again is not good in my opinion. What does that even mean? I don't know how picking up activity is too convienent and scummy. I clearly stated I was busy. When I picked up my activity was because I had free time on my hands to be active more. My cases aren't pushing for anyone? I think you should go back and read through my filter. I have been openly giving my opinions. Since no one is going to vote for casualman or Mandalor. I would like to see BKE lynched today. I have stated my reasons for wanting to see him lynched and they have not changed. ##Vote BroodKingEXE | ||
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That's stupid. Hyaach is lying. | ||
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What else am I supposed to say? I have never been in this position before where someone claims a false red check on me. I'm not Mafia. I have been trying my best to give out reads, answer any questions, and defend myself the entire game to prove to everyone that I'm town. Then to have this bad claim come in and get me mislynched yet again. I had to have been framed. That's the only logical way I could have turned up a red check. Especially as mentioned I have been in the spotlight and there would be a high possibility I would be checked. So who else would be a perfect target to frame? I find it more likely that Hyaach is lying. Also you have been determined that I'm Mafia this whole time because of some stupid meta thing you have going on me. That's pretty much it other than your fluffy accusations against me about how stepping up my activity and giving my reads are "too convienent" That's ridiculous. After your constant attacks and pushes for me the whole game who's to say you aren't the one that framed me? Tossing around suspicion of me the whole game and pushing me into the spotlight while you sit on your throne and sway the town with a wave of your hand. Then suddenly I get a red check on top of everything else. If anything that is what I would call convenient. | ||
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On July 07 2012 10:35 Hyaach wrote: why would i trade myself for you? if anything lynching scum today or mislynch townie would still tesult in 2 kp at night. if i were scum and bke was my scum buddy. i have zero reason to save his ass and pu him and i out to dry next day Who cares as long as one of you survive you win. | ||
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On July 07 2012 10:36 NoSmurfHere wrote: Hahaha so in light of there being a claimed red check on katina I go from being a townread for Katina to being the person who framed her. Hahahaha this is priceless. You'd think that if I were sitting on a throne and waving town around I'd have gotten my choice of lynch (you or ShiaoPi) yesterday. It was a suggestion, anything is possible in these games. You of all people should know that espcially being around as long as you have been. I'm glad you are getting all giggly like a little school girl. I love you too. As for your choice of lynch you always get it eventually. If not the same or next day so don't try and be all modest. It doesn't help that the town does what it wants as well. This is all you have to say to what I wrote? | ||
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On July 07 2012 10:38 Hyaach wrote: show me a case where you actively push it like your town meta. you have been giving convient reads and refuse to take a stanve until someone else does BKE, casualman, Mandalor. Do you not read filters? By read I mean actually read what they contain and not just derp through them. I don't refuse to take a stance until someone else does. I have gone out of my way to take a stance on a few people this game whether it's accusing them of being Mafia or defending them because I have a strong town read on them. | ||
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On July 07 2012 10:52 Hyaach wrote: u defend bm day one. added post after mkmk lyncht make it seem like you care. add on cases where the ebtire towns are divides in half. bke is my green check too. makes me suspect u even nore. cman is a troll and i dont know what to make of mandanlor and myself? lol. I do care.. The town is just about always half divided. BKE is green on your supposed "check" So trolls can't be Mafia? I find it interesting that you would let a troll live over someone who is posting their reads and trying to help the town find Mafia. You don't know what to make of yourself? Interesting. I would imagine you would have some idea by now. | ||
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On July 07 2012 10:52 NoSmurfHere wrote: So katina, is Hyaach lying, or were you framed, or both? Your story is kinda weird. If you were framed it doesn't necessarily mean Hyaach is lying. So if you claim to be framed why is your instant conclusion that Hyaach is a liar? I don't see the town motivation behind immediately claiming Hyaach is a liar without looking at the facts first. I had to actually go back to the OP and see if there were millers (there aren't) and to see how framers worked. (which Wiggles just clarified) So instead of looking over the facts, your instant conclusion is that Hyaach is lying. You say he has to be lying, without even considering for a moment the motivation behind the claim. What motivation would a scum Hyaach have to single YOU out, of all players? The only plausible explanation for that is you believe all three of BKE, Twelve, and Hyaach to be scum...which honestly, I find to be absurd, and you haven't pushed this notion anyway. Are you of that opinion? Thinking about it rationally, the only reason a scum would fakeclaim DT in this position is to save both BKE and Twelve, but then they would draw so much attention to themselves when their target flipped town that it would be simpler to paint one of BKE/Twelve as town and bus the hell out of the other. In fact it would be far more effective, even. Then the second part of your little tirade kicks in. If you got framed, why is it necessitated that Hyaach is lying? If you're of the opinion that you got framed then you should believe Hyaach's claim. Instead it seems like you've just started panicking and now all you can do is sling mud at the situation to try and make it go away. I don't know if I was framed or if Hyaach is lying. I have been looking over the facts this whole game. His motivation would be to go for someone in the spot light. With you on my back this whole game you gave him a nice target. As I have said numerous times I think BKE is Mafia and I'm not sure what to make of Hyaach anymore. Twelve I have a town read on. First reaction I had when I saw that red check was he had to be lying because I'm town. Then I read to see what roles could be in the game and noticed the Mafia could have a framer but since I think BKE is Mafia and apparently had a green check then it makes it hard for me to figure out which option it could be. If I had a town read on BKE this game then I would be more inclined to believe Hyaach's claim and conclude that I was framed. Again as I said Mafia don't play by one particular style that would make the games too easy. It depends on the Mafia team as well some could have jubjubs who do odd things while others have experienced players who do odd things. I'm not slinging mud and trying to make it go away. I'm trying to defend myself from being mislynched this game. I'm not the target you should be trying to get lynched. | ||
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On July 07 2012 11:01 NoSmurfHere wrote: You never answered why you completely ignore grush the troll but not casualman the troll. What separates the trolls? What seperates them is that grush has posts where he actually says something. While casualman goes in active for almost the whole game and pops in to insult people or say "let's lynch this guy!!" I admit I have overlooked grush and a few other people this game. There have been others I can get an actual read on and casualman is just too bad and getting ignored too much to be true. | ||
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On July 07 2012 11:11 NoSmurfHere wrote: So with one vote on you and me backed off (because there was literally no chance I would get you lynched today) you consider yourself "in the spotlight?" In addition, if his motivation is to go after a townie in the spotlight (as scum) what happens when you flip town? He dies, right? What kind of shitty motivation for scum is that? He trades you, who have so far been pretty irrelevant in the matters for town, for himself. That's essentially like town losing four players all at once (when comparing team sizes) Why do you have a town read on Twelve? What makes him town? What makes BKE scum? If you're actually looking at the facts, why is it that you still haven't figured out which stance you want to take? People have put me up for a lynch candidate for most of the game. Just recently did everyone begin to back off and this red check comes up. Then when I flip town Hyaach can claim I was framed and use that as his scapegoat while protecting BKE. The lynch on Twelve got switched last minute I wouldn't put it past the town to do it again. Twelve has been here and contributing, he has defended himself to the last minute and still continues to post after escaping a lynch. Where if he were scum I would imagine he would go off into lala land like BKE does. BKE disappears and comes back when people start getting suspicious of him and put him up for lynch or he makes small comments on other people's post to make it look like hes contributing when in reality he isn't. He makes bad defenses and basically sheeps along with what all the other people are doing and pushing me on the side. I haven't figured out which stance to take because I think BKE is Mafia and I have been suspicious of Hyaach. If it turns out that Hyaach is telling the truth and I was framed then I will get down on my hands and knees and wash your feet in the most holiest of water. | ||
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On July 07 2012 11:12 NoSmurfHere wrote: Really? Which posts? So casualman is scum because he's bad? Since when has this been a criterion for lynching scum? Since when has stepping up activity and giving out reads been one? | ||
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On July 07 2012 11:31 NoSmurfHere wrote: EBWODP So...basically exactly what you've been doing all game? e: Good for you Maju, caught my point without me explicitly having to yell it aloud. I have been trying to find the Mafia, that's what I have been doing. I know that I didn't have the highest activity when the game first started that's because I was busy and my birthday came. I have been giving my reads and opinions. I haven't been afraid to post or defend myself from whoever had something to say about me. This is a whole new situation for me. I wasn't the most level headed when I first saw that Hyaach got a red check on me I will admit to that. Which resulted in contradicting myself as I started to recover from the shock of a red check. I'm tired of always getting mislynched in these games. I always end up spot on and jubjubs decide to lynch me just because I'm a little inactive. | ||
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After going back and looking over Hyaach's filter I'm inclined to believe his check green check on BKE. He has hinted at his role and BKE's innocence since D2 started. In his filter he tells Acro this: On July 06 2012 23:03 Hyaach wrote: Acro, put it in katina. believe me. If I'm going the time right in my head then he had to get that red check back on me. His wording says it all. When I first looked over that post I found it odd but I looked over it and wrote it off as a strong Mafia read on me. When he claimed i finally took notice of it. So I had to have been framed by the Mafia. That's the only option that make sense in my head now that I have had time to go over everything. Excuse me while I go get the holy water, I have some feet to wash. Will a french maid outfit do? Or should I get something like street orphan? | ||
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On July 07 2012 12:20 NoSmurfHere wrote: I have a homework deadline at midnight (it's 8:15 here right now) but as soon as I'm done and back I'm going to consolidate my thoughts on Katina and Twelve. If we don't lynch Katina we lynch Twelve. The only reason we wouldn't lynch Katina is if we think she might've been framed. However, this DT claim is almost certainly legitimate and I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't screw ourselves out of a correct (IMO) lynch by wondering whether she was framed or not. Assuming the claim is legitimate then both BKE and Hyaach are definitely town (2 godfathers in the game would be pretty unprecedented, bastard almost) and as of now I see no reason to doubt the claim. Better to be safe than sorry though especially dealing with a game that has a framer. I was framed, I know I'm innocent. You have been in plenty of games with me, you know how often people like to mislynch me for one reason or another even though I could be 100% correct. This time I was framed. | ||
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@Maju: He hints at his check without revealing too much information or claim what his check turned up on BKE. If he would have claimed then the Mafia would have for sure killed him. A lot of people were going for BKE so it makes sense to check the person that everyone is going after. Such as BKE and me. | ||
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We should be lynching someone else today, not me. There are scummier people than me such as Mandalor, Maju, casualman. I got framed now the Mafia can sit back and enjoy the show. | ||
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Again NSH, your case is based entirely on my meta from one game. It has obviously clouded your judgement now when I'm town. | ||
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