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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 26 2012 22:28 GMT
#339
I did not say that I believe hegeos case to be "holy writ". I simply felt that comparing those two posts the difference is that hegeo posted a case, while sciberbia had a suspicion, which did not convince me. Hegeo's post clearly had quite an effort behind it and it did point out a tag-teamy feeling you two did give off for a while(at least in my humble opinion), so naturally I took a look at it and then shared my thoughts.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 26 2012 22:30 GMT
#340
EBWOP: so as in your terms: hegeo was case of a confirmed townie and sciberbia was suspicion of a confirmed townie. I believe that a case has a higher value than a suspicion
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 27 2012 10:09 GMT
#352
Looking at the votecount and the fact that golden was townie we got at least one of the scum team on our vote. Which is pretty bad for us as we will most probably head into lylo after the night hit.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 28 2012 15:26 GMT
#369
Just got home and what do I see?

We head into LYLO (gg to s0lstice) and Release's first action is to vote me after repeatedly saying that we should go after Milton in the previous night. This reason here:
On May 28 2012 16:38 Release wrote:
Considering the past lynches that we've had, the suspected scum turns out to be playing badly. ShiaoPi has kept his neck out of trouble and townies have not. I'll try to draw up a case against him before this game ends.

The way I see it, he and Milton are scum. Milton plays badly enough that we can always et him lynched. (he is an exception to the above rule because he had sEveral obvious pro-scum posts.


is beyond retarded. If you seriously believe that it gets ridiculous, you say that I am scum for not being a bad townie and for not getting lynched? Congratulations you should lynch all of us right now with this reasoning. A sudden switch after the Milton case onto me is totally uncomprehensible to me and just goes on to a meltdown for logic. If you do not care to elaborate I might have to reconsider my opinion of you.

As we are in LYLO we should simply go after the one you find scummiest and not somebody who you might think is scum. Mislynch and it's over. Which is another reason why I would not support a lynch on skware, that's way too much coinflipping involved in going after him with his low amount of posts.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 28 2012 19:07 GMT
#373
Is our situation really as bad that you want to lynch somebody who has yet to post anything really substantial? Mafia played us well and left us stuck in LYLO with a lurker and 4 guys who have all been under suspicion at one point of the game. Basically they took out the people with high town reads and we are left in a mucky state of actually anyone could be scum. If skware is still lurking there is no way for us to win anymore since we need 3 votes and mafia can easily sway the outcome with their 2 votes.

I said it already but I'll repeat I really do not like lynching skware, we can just flip a coin if we do it to determine the outcome of the game. I for one would be interested in the posts that were promised by Release and Milton before deciding on anything.

If we are approaching deadline and he still does nothing then I might be willing to give it a shot, but until then no.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 28 2012 21:42 GMT
#381
I would say it was rather clear which parts of Release's posts were "bullshit" as part of the bait.

@mordanis
What I really do not understand is why you seem so intent to go after the lurker. I saw your reasoning but it looks kind of stupid to be honest. I already said that at least one scum was on our vote against Golden, so there is no reason to actually go for the coinflip if it is much more reasonable to go after one of the 4 active players...
Care to elaborate on your thoughts? What I have read until now is not really convincing. Correct me if I am wrong: "We should lynch him, because there is the chance that he is lurking scum and because of the apparent lack of lynching lurkers until now in our game. Which would make him feel safe."

I am probably repeating myself but we are in LYLO and I'd rather not take my chances with a lurker if we can get the scum on our vote.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 28 2012 22:43 GMT
#384
Logically everyone of us could be scum, so pointing out the obvious with skware is not helping us in any way. If you are not intent on going after him, why keep bringing him up?

In regards to Release:
I just skimmed through his filter again. I thought you could easily see his thoughtprocesses.
he went after hegeo and got him lynched, then goes after Milton until he sees that Milton is seemingly pushed into hegeos position and therefore agrees on the consensus lynch against golden. He tries to bait out a kp from mafia by going into overaggression against Milton but nothing happens, which seems to him like a confirmation in his read that Milton might actually be a townie so now he is tunneling you. (Not saying that I agree with him in all points but that is how his train of thought seems to have went to me.)

LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 28 2012 22:46 GMT
#385
EBWOP: I am going to bed now...hopefully by tomorrow skware has reappeared from the dead. (Oh and bring Milton in here too)
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#389
still no sign of skware...
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2012 15:56 GMT
#391
well I actually did read that before but does it matter?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2012 20:55 GMT
#397
2,5 hours to lynch, I really hope this better be working. Really do not want to gamble on that shit.
Hey skware you here?
##vote: skware

LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#400
What annoys me to no end is that there is nothing town can do now besides going for the 2/5 chance that he is scum. If he is town we will not get enough votes to get a lynch and scum can easily mask themselves beneath the vote on the "only logical" choice that is left for town.

It is just a fucking frustrating situation for LYLO and I am actually really pissed about this...
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2012 22:45 GMT
#402
At least that is something :S
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2012 23:40 GMT
#407
Deadline over and...?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2012 23:43 GMT
#409
god damn it, I knew I should have pushed Mordanis
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2012 23:45 GMT
#411
GG guys, well played
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2012 23:54 GMT
#416
I must say I was really impressed with your play scumteam, even if skware did came back, I would have had a hard time to believe anyone, I practically had all of us as scum in LYLO so good job on setting it up that way !
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 30 2012 00:06 GMT
#421
Just go over his filter from day 1 again >_> You can "easily" see it then. But I admit I got kind of blinded by his posts in day 2
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 30 2012 00:08 GMT
#424
On another note I am 0-2 in TL Mafia games and always helped to lynch a blue role day 1 T_T
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 30 2012 00:38 GMT
#431
On May 30 2012 09:23 Mordanis wrote:
And to clear up what I meant about being ashamed is really more like this: I am unable to feel the elation I felt at winning in my last game because my team won due to the bad play of the other side. Perhaps I just have a better time as town, having to figure things out rather than just trying to manipulate everyone. Meh. I'm curious as to what Release and Shiao were thinking, but I feel no great satisfaction in myself.

Shiao and Release: you guys were much stronger than I expected. I don't know if you were intentionally holding back all game or what, but at several points I felt like we had the game won ezpz, and then for some reason (I still have no idea why Shiao was defending Release at the end), you guys walled up the whole that I was expecting to exploit. GG guys, I'm sorry it had to end this way.


Aww, don't feel bad, lurkers happen ^^.

I did hold back quite a bit, especially day 1, since if you look at Newbie Mini Mafia XIII. I was much more active/aggressive in that game, which got me shot night1 :D So I tried to avoid that scenario, which resulted in me almost getting lynched day1...

Milton had been on my radar since day1, but his posts in day 2 really let me think twice, it was simply so much better than the previous ones. After Hegeo's case I thoroughly went through your and Release's filter and I can't quite explain why but you seemed scummier than Release, who I put tentively into the aggressive townie corner.

So I had you as scum as well, but seeing that my town cred was shredded because of my abysmal day 1 play I simply did not believe that a case from me on you would have swayed town's opinion. After sciberbia and s0lstice got taken out I had no one as a sure townread anymore, which was kind of really bad for me :D

Then at LYLO I felt that you tried to direct us at the single useless person we had left. After I had said that at least one scum must be on our vote I was fairly certain you were trying to distract us. So I tried to tunnel you into a scumslip and pray that skware would show up
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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