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On June 05 2012 11:15 kitaman27 wrote:
With so few people willing to listen to anything I have to say, it seems unlikely that I will be argue myself out of a lynch today. Even if I am able, it will be a waste of discussion and I'd rather have a full day to go after actual scum targets than defend myself.
I am a Medic. I saved Meapak from a hit on night one. I have been on Toad night two and three. Don't waste time discussing whether or not my claim is real. If there is another medic who claims to have saved Meapak night one, then he can counter-claim me. Otherwise, I am confirmed town and we can end this lynch Kita nonsense. I'll make a post about my suspects later tonight.
Blatant attempt to out our medic. Scum know there is one because a shot was blocked on Night 1 and now since Kita is likely to be lynched he suddenly becomes our medic. No this is way too convenient and unfortunately the only way to tell for sure is to out another blue, or lynch him. Based on his posting I say we lynch him.
Don't be sheep.
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On June 05 2012 11:33 kitaman27 wrote:
We have the ability to stop a mislynch and confirm myself as town, yet you don't want to go through with it because the non-existant other medic may have a really slim chance to make a save on day five or day six (after which the game is probably over)? I don't believe your claim, so yes there is another medic, who would be town. Point being that if the medic claims than we lynch you anyway and he gets shot overnight. Your claim is just that, a claim, and I don't buy it. We have no way of verifying it, so we judge you based on your posts. What is the alternative? We let you live indefinitely? You are not confirmed town, you are the major lynch target who has claimed a very convenient role which I don't think is true.
I'm not sure if you'd be a bold enough scum to oppose this plan or are just tunneling so hard you refuse to consider that I am town. So I'm scum now. Wriggle some more.
Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 14:55 kitaman27 wrote:
With myself and Meapak being town, it doesn't bode well for him for him from a balance perspective, although VE could also serve as the scum leader. I even breadcrumbed the save. I don't consider that Meapak could be fake-claiming the hit because I saved him. Please don't waste time arguing of this nonsense.
Right so the fact that you took MZ claimed hit at face value is a crumb? Does that mean that everyone in this thread who didn't doubt MZ's claim is also breadcrumbing a save? Sorry but this adds nothing to your defence.
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On June 05 2012 11:42 Hyaach wrote:
Im sorry but i cant find your breadcrumb.
As far as I can tell his crumb is that he did not doubt MZ's claim. That makes me a medic too, and you as well. Hell most of the thread are medics 
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Ok Kita, I'm not going to argue with you about your claim. I don't buy it and I hope that the rest of the town doesn't either.
How about you give us your scum list? Who would you lynch today?
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On June 05 2012 12:06 kitaman27 wrote:lol @ prob's summary of the most recent mini game <3 Show nested quote +Town got screwed because they never established a set of "confirmed" townies. No-one is ever 100% confirmed but you were all suspecting each other all game long which meant mafia could easily blend in.
I think we have a pretty clear idea who is town in this game. I am sure you have a much better picture but we are certainly in a stronger position than the town in that game.
Relevance?
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Wiggles, be smart about this. Evaluate his play regardless of his claim.
I don't understand how players of Kita's calibre can push a mafia agenda all game and then get away by just claiming. If he is scum it's a win-win situation for him to claim. Either he escapes the noose, or he finds the medic. So the smart thing to do is just ignore the claim. Without it he is clearly mafia, so why does his claim change things?
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To our real medic
DON'T CLAIM!
We will convince the doubters, somehow. Kita is red and he is wriggling out of this lynch like I thought he would try to do. He had no other option and so chose the best possible claim he could. His breadcrumb makes 0 sense.
MZ, I take it you think my cases against him are shit then?
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On June 05 2012 15:00 EchelonTee wrote:
Why should the real medic not claim? This reminds me of MrZentor's doctor claim in SoaF.
Because all that does is out the actual medic. I don't believe Kita's claim for one second. It is way too convenient and doesn't match with his play. He has been scummy scummy scum all game and now that his head is on the chopping block he can wriggle out by claiming the most convenient role yet.
At worst he gets to out our medic, at best he gets off and gets major town credit. It's win, super win if he is scum. If he is town he would have shown something before now. Almost the entire thread has voted for him at some point this game, but suddenly now he is town?
I repeat medic, don't claim. If we still have over 24hrs until lynch so if it looks like he won't be lynched closer to time, we can chat about it then. I'm fine with looking at other scummy people, we need to anyway, but don't claim until you absolutely have to.
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On June 05 2012 15:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 14:52 Probulous wrote:To our real medic DON'T CLAIM! We will convince the doubters, somehow. Kita is red and he is wriggling out of this lynch like I thought he would try to do. He had no other option and so chose the best possible claim he could. His breadcrumb makes 0 sense. MZ, I take it you think my cases against him are shit then? Probulous how much have you played here? I'm not trying to be patronizing, I'm just trying to work some stuff out and it would help to know approximately how long you've been playing.
I've played enough to know a bad claim when I see one. Kita is red. VE knew it, WBG knew it, I know it. He is mafia and he needs to swing.
I have written more words about him than the rest of my posts puts together and I still can't convince you guys. I don't know what I am doing wrong but it should be plain to see. Everyone, almost everyobody had him as their number one scum target at some point this game, but a badly crumbed convenient medic claim is suddenly credible?
Put yourself in Kita's shoes, why would you not make this claim if you were scum?
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On June 05 2012 15:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: someone please enlighten me how a 1/1 trade is good for scum right now?
If we have scum lined up for a lynch, then a 1:1 is better than a 0:1 from their point of view, right?
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I didn't want to do this but it seems that my hand is being forced. I am Dibs the detective. Here is my post in the thread. I checked Hassybaby last night and he returned Earth, I checked Kitaman the night before and he returned Not Earth.
On May 30 2012 10:03 Probulous wrote:
Hi everybody!
I am counting on people giving me a break to read the thread, so don't expect too much from me immediately. At least I am replacing in fairly early into the game.
It's about time I won a game so I will be putting in the effort here. The roster looks good and from my initial read some of the vets are looking pretty townie so we have no reason not to win.
Note: To help get an idea on people's thoughts, please ask me some specific questions. It is always hard when catching up to get a feel for people because the timing of posts is hard to work out. So fire away and I will do my best.
This is why I have tunnelled him so hard and now people are getting cold feet. I will not let him get away from this lynch, hence my claim.
I purposefully did not breadcrumb my Kita check because he was clearly a target for a possible framer. Instead I tried to push the thread to look elsewhere that night (supersoft and others). In addition I had mentioned earlier in the day that the best way to crumb is just before deadline so people can find it. I thought it stupid to do that for my Kita check in case it outed me. Last night in my last post I labelled three people (along with Hassy as number 1) as mafia target. This was my crumb in the hope that a framer would not know which one to pick.
The reason I didn't want the doc to claim is two fold.
Firstly it should have been clear that Kita is scum and so we don't need to expose the Doc. This no longer appears to be true.
Secondly, by outing myself, we can play a little follow the cop with mafia having to try and find the medic. I know this puts other lead townies at risk but in return we get a clear read in the morning. There is no more roleblocker to worry about. If I soak up two bullets, so be it. Now about sanity, it seems that in a gesture of goodwill, Greymist told me that I checked Toad night 1 and got Earth. With the red check, I know I am a regular DT.
We lynch the Kitaman27.
Finally I am sorry guys but it is 4:50pm and I am about to leave work. I wanted to do this before I left so you can think about it whilst I sleep. I will be on tomorow morning (my time). Think about this carefully and do the right thing.
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Who is Prof Membrane?
I never watched the show so I don't know what you are talking about?
The only possible explanation with you as town would be that you were framed night 2. I doubt that is the case given the rest of your posting. The only people you have pushed as serious lynches are town (VE and Hassy).
From phone.
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On June 05 2012 16:37 kitaman27 wrote:
With the roleblocker dead, its likely that the scum team cannot stop my save. Therefore, if I protect prob, it takes both of their kp to take him out. If we lynch a secondary scum suspect other than myself today, I can prove to the thread that both Prob and an additional townie cannot die while I live. It's possible that the mafia team will double stack prob and then push my lynch the following cycle, but that opens up the risk of a watcher or tracker, which is potentially game ending for them.
OK Kita, I am willing to give this a try. If myself and someone else die overnight, you get lynched tomorrow. If it is just me than the rest of the town can decide what to do with you (I would suggest he swings). This is the right play given the circumstances and much as I dislike giving Kita a break, I am having doubts.
So my other targets, well I've spoken about them previously. Maju, Manason and possibly papapanda but I would prefer one of the first two. I won't be voting for Kenpachi, he has posted, which is more than he normally does. Wiggles is a possibility but for this lynch I would be happier with one of the other three. Everytime I read his filter I come away feeling that he has been reasonable but ineffective. He clearly isn't putting in the effort we want of him but right now, I would be more comfortable with either Maju or Manason. I know it isn't a logical position to take, but my brain hurts and I am feeling pretty shitty for how I have been played. So give me a break. We can lynch him tomorrow if necessary.
Toad, I share your sentiments. The evidence for Kita being scum is huge and the only thing saving him is the possibility that he got framed on night 2. People seem to forget that he looked scummy to most people at some point and has never looked outright townie. Before his claim we were all sure he was scum but now based solely off a claim which scum could make, he is suddenly town.
If we have another medic, I now agree that he should claim. I wanted to lynch Kita with out our medic being revealed but that is not going to happen, so he if he is out there, he needs to claim. It would prove Kita is scum (well depending on who claims but it is highly likely) and so we would go into the night with only three scum left. Yes, the medic would probably die but that would give me the opportunity to check one more person. Given the number of cleared players that is huge. If I get doublestacked, that means more of you "probably townies" survive which is OK.
Sorry guys, I think I fucked up yesterday by claiming. Everything lined up for Kita being scum that I felt I had to do it to ensure his lynch. The possibility of a framer did enter my calculations but that was one source of doubt against a tide of confirmatory information. I got played, or I am being played and it feels real shitty.
Let's lynch maju and get us back on track.
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Your Manason stuff is pretty good, it fits with my read as well. I'll take another look at his filter and see whether I can find a townie explanation for his actions. If not, he is a decent lynch target.
On June 06 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
Lots of questions as with much of his filter in general. This is the kind of post that's a post for the sake of it. Filler is filler, VE had filler too. It was day 1 too so newbs are obviously going to be asking questions and stuff. That doesn't really add anything.
Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 06:12 papapanda wrote:
Grush, if you starsense is telling you VE is not scum, don't vote for him...vote for who you believe to be scum; I would recommend wriggles(long as its not me). Gambit didn't respond yet, if he ninjas today he is dead tomorrow. The only reliable way I can think of to confirm VE is 1)tell him who to shoot 2)someone protect the target 3) target tells us whats up.
Before you post comments on why this is a stupid plan, I want to say that I agree it's a stupid plan and this is not going to happen tonight because so many things can go wrong. #Vote:VE This post is obviously the big one. It just screams scum. Don't vote for VE! Wiggles is more likely scum, vote for him! Except I will vote for VE! The reason he's voting for VE? The plan to confirm his vig shot is flawed. Well where the fuck does that say VE is scum? It just doesn't. As far as single condemning posts go, this one is pretty high up the list.
See this is where I disagree. Whilst the internal logic is inconsistent (ie he thinks VE is scum but telling someone else to vote for Wiggles) but the external logic is alright. He was saying "vote for who you believe to be scum". Grush had just FOS'd Wiggles so that is why he mentioned Wiggles. It actually reads as pretty townie to me because he is saying something stupid without realising it. I know he is being blatantly contradictory but the motivation behind it is townie. The reality is that Wiggles could be scum and so telling Grush to vote for Wiggles, if Wiggles was his number one scum read is not scummy.
Maybe I am misunderstanding something but that is the read I get from that post.
Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 06:43 papapanda wrote:
Both you and I have read MZ's cases, as well as other posts, can we agree that his points are valid?
However as I was reading it, I was, using your term, on the fence for VE's lynch.
What I didn't like was how he responded to the pressure. He claimed vig, one the the toughest role to prove at this stage of the game. Ofcourse it's possible he is vig, and what ticked for me was what he said about if he was the mafia leader, the mafia would try more to save him...(can't find the post, but I'm pretty certain that I read it today). Wifom doesn't work as defenses...(learned that the hard way last game, marvellosity;p).
Anyhow, my point is I find VE scummy and people trying to spread the vote are also worth looking at(hi kenpachi). More bad, just everywhere. At the start, he's just saying "MZ made a good case no? didn't he just?" But still NO explanation from him on what HE finds particularly scummy. Then again we have him talking about vig for most of his post. Between his last post and this one we have him spending most of the time talking about the vig part, which is actually relatively pretty unimportant. He concludes by saying 'I find VE scummy'. Why? How? ... Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 07:12 papapanda wrote:
VE has been contradicting himself through the game. The thing about playing completely different playstyle, day-game and night-game, is just bullocks.
VE's vote-jumping I dislike.
VE's responses are inappropriate as a town.
Marv,
May I ask you what part of the case you find invalid? The day-night game difference. I'm pretty sure that was supersoft that said this, not VE. So we can scratch that as a non-point. VE's vote-jumping is null, and the third point, his responses are 'inappropriate'? What does this even mean? I'm going on a bit now but everything about papapanda's vote on VE and his subsequent explanation reeks of scum.
So we come down to his vote on VE. He was not the only one with terrible reasoning for voting for VE. Townies had terrible reasoning for voting for VE, so if the case rests on this than it doesn't hold much weight. I still think this post is the most damning
On June 05 2012 11:09 Probulous wrote:However I agree with WBG's point about this Show nested quote +On June 04 2012 13:13 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 04 2012 12:57 papapanda wrote:
Kenpachi, reading through your filter again I saw that you fos me. Can you post some things I can try to defend against if you still find me scummy? I'll be out the rest of tonight, but I will respond as soon as I can. based on this post I'm going to assume you are scum and that kenpachi is town. Thanks for making it that easy. He avoids everyone else, doesn't bother to find the case, doesn't respond to any other case and doesn't bother pushing his own scum reads. Oh and he responds to Kenpachi who is another lurker instead of the others who are actually participating in the thread. It just rings scum, scum, scum.
Plus he hammered VE.
For further reading, here is his filter from LIV where he was town. He's more open, more engaging, less afraid to post. There's an honesty and lack of deception in his filter in LIV that does not seem present here.
Reading now.
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Fuck I just deleted a post ><
Rewrite
I agree with Marvel regarding Papapanda's meta. We have not seen anything out of the pandaman that is remotely close to this post (Klicky)
On May 05 2012 13:06 papapanda wrote:Yeah, mafia is going to hit SlOosh real hard, as he is 2/2, calling out both sinani and katina. I believe the lynching of BM was orchestrated by the red. The plan for red might have been to target veterans who are slightly inactive. As we can see, Katina passively pushed for lynching of BM. Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. Keeping this is mind, I would like to bring up marvellosity. 1. His first few post was to bring Palmer into attention. No, he didn't vote for him, but just bringing him up and possibly started a bandwagon is good enough. 2. He gives his read on NT, saying he "looks the scummiest" but then votes for BM(yes, I voted BM too, I will explain my change of heart if it isn't clear enough-_-), claiming same reason as layabout. His willingness to switch sides so fast is a little scummy. 3. He defends Katina by basically saying she has odd posting style. By association, this also is a little suspicious and him adding on saying that DoYouHas nailed it actually made it sound even worst for me. I would like to conclude by saying that this was pieced together AFTER I assumed he was red. I would like to ask others to help me analyse marvellosity from the point of view of blue. Basically: FoS on marvellosity Combined with his hammer of VE (for terrible reasons), and his terrible post "replying" to Kenpachi but noone else and avoiding talking about anything relevant; I am happy to put him on my scum list. It now stands at
Maju, Manason and Papapanda
Here are thoughts on Maju and hmmm. It seems my thoughts on Manason are not as developed as I thought, well at least not in the thread. Will write something up now.
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On June 06 2012 09:31 marvellosity wrote:We're not quite seeing eye to eye on the VE vote thing. You get a town vibe from it, but I don't know in what world a townie votes to lynch someone while at the same time trying to persuade someone to move their vote off their favoured lynch target. Not only this but he can't even really explain WHY VE is his favoured lynch target. That is the crux of it. I read that post as just general advice to vote for who you think is scummy. I don't think he realised how contradictory it was. What purpose does the post serve from a mafia point of view? There was no way Wiggles was getting lynched with only Grush pushing it, so why post something that contradictory? The answer is simple, he didn't think he was contradicting himself. Rather he was pushing his read, and telling Grush to push his read. The fact that they were on different people is beside the point.
I agree with the VE point though.
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On May 29 2012 11:17 Manason wrote:
Anyway on with it. Mr. Wiggles and Toad are going to need protection most tonight. Mr. Wiggles moreso. Perhaps we should be focusing on people that aren't posting a lot? Or at least taking a closer look. The scum reads I've seen so far are only for people that have been actively posting and while more posts does help you when figuring out someones alignment, the smaller posts can be more telling.
Why would Wiggles need protection over Toad? Toad had claimed a powerful town role and all Wiggles had was an extra vote. Bad logic, bad! Also I love the way Manason tells people to look at people who don' post a lot and then doesn't bother doing it himself. Note his his first vote.
On May 30 2012 10:26 Manason wrote:
A lot of people are apparently making hasty votes, the day just began. We have roughly 45 hours to decide who is Scum and while you can change your vote why not focus the pressure on someone who is more likely to read the forum.##Vote Kitaman
Which is completely opposite to what he was saying earlier. I also like that this is a pressure vote, when others have been actually pressuring Kita. This is like pissing into a river in the hope it flows faster. This has to be the weakest possible pressure vote I have seen. Kita was an easy target and he gave Kita all manner of excuses not to respond which is what he wanted. That was why he couldn't explain his reasoning behind his vote for Kita, he didn't have any.
On May 30 2012 13:11 Manason wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 12:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 30 2012 08:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
There you have it. Nice work Matt.
Forumite had me fooled, though I guess since his target was scum that was going to be EZPZ to do. I was afraid of the assassin/lyncher needing to target scum, that was going to make finding them exceedingly hard since they could just scumhunt like normal. Thank God scum took care of it for us. ^^
Now, who's the lynch today? I'm liking a lynch inside of (Zealos, supersoft, Kitaman) presently. What does everyone else think? He's on the radar, but I don't know if there's enough support for his lynch yet. As you say, no one is really mentioning him and aside from a few people thinking his play is "odd" it doesn't seem like many people find him suspicious. I'm trying to get a GOOD lynch to happen, not MY lynch. MY lynch would be Kita. I'm behind you on Kita. Kita or Zealous, those are the two I'd be happy to see lynched. I think we need to start putting some pressure on these two and see what they have to say in their defence. Note how how mentions Zealos? Nothing in his filter before this suggest suspicion of Zealos, but suddenly he is a lynch target. OK, well you have planted the seed, how are you going to make it grow?
On May 31 2012 12:35 Manason wrote:
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VisceraEyes: He's for lynching Kita, so I want to work with him for now.
sToFu: I don't think he's scum.
Mr. Wiggles: I voted for him because I trusted his judgment. Nothing I've seen so far has led me to not trust my intial insticts.
strongandbig: at some points I've thought he's scum, other times town. To be honest I have no opinion at the moment.
Hassybaby: I'm not for lynching the lurkers at the moment as we have better targets that are active. Like Kita and Zealous.
Note targets are still Kita and Zealos. He supports VE because VE wants to lynch Kita and then we get
On May 31 2012 15:43 Manason wrote:
Sorry VE, but theres a lot of evidence making you look bad.
##Unvote: Kitaman
##Vote: VisceraEyes
However I still do look forward to what you have on Kita, If it's good enough you might have a chance to not get lynched.
Out of nowhere. Where is this new evidence that makes VE look bad? MZ had posted his case really early on in the day so it couldn't be that. The evidence was the ginormous bandwagon forming which Manason wanted to be part of. Remember he mentioned BOTH kita and Zealos and yet even when there was a counter push for a Zealos lynch he chose to vote for the guy pushing a Kita lynch.
A newbie town in this circumstance would just stick to his earlier pressure and vote for Kita or Zealos. If he was going to bandwagon VE, he would outright say so. He would not give VE an out by saying the Kita case could save him and then not bother to read it and comment. Especially if Kita was his number one scum read all day.
This is why I think he is scum. Marvel's case is good and hopefully this adds something a little different.
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On June 06 2012 09:52 MajuGarzett wrote:Well other than Manason, I'm suspicious of Hassy and papapanda. While I have been accused of a dearth of informational posting, Hassy has also been a culprit in this matter. + Show Spoiler +The first real instance seen of him posting an analysis of anything occurs here: On June 03 2012 05:19 Hassybaby wrote:My main read as it stands it Manason. Take the other posts aside for a second, but Bh and myself saw this at the same time it seems (well we ARE the same person): Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 23:29 Manason wrote:
Ok well there is something I want to make clear right now. I never thought VE was Scum. The reason why I gave him a vote was because I was suspicious by the whole bread crumb deal, added on to the fact that he was going to get lynched and I would rather a VE lynch than a no-lynch. For the people saying that I don't provide any evidence, you guys don't seem to be quoting anything in my filter to prove I'm scum either, although I would give you the benefit of the doubt as it is night, I expect something tomorrow and as a show of good will I will make a complete case against who I think is scum.
I know this isn't going to go in my favor and probably harm my chances even more, but I'm lazy and don't want to go digging through peoples filters and making a case. I like to leave that to the vets. Like I've already said though I'll attempt a case D3. Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 23:48 Manason wrote:On June 01 2012 23:40 marvellosity wrote:On June 01 2012 23:29 Manason wrote:
Ok well there is something I want to make clear right now. I never thought VE was Scum. The reason why I gave him a vote was because I was suspicious by the whole bread crumb deal, added on to the fact that he was going to get lynched and I would rather a VE lynch than a no-lynch. For the people saying that I don't provide any evidence, you guys don't seem to be quoting anything in my filter to prove I'm scum either, although I would give you the benefit of the doubt as it is night, I expect something tomorrow and as a show of good will I will make a complete case against who I think is scum.
I know this isn't going to go in my favor and probably harm my chances even more, but I'm lazy and don't want to go digging through peoples filters and making a case. I like to leave that to the vets. Like I've already said though I'll attempt a case D3. Remind me for a moment how a complete lack of scumhunting and voting for a townie lynch isn't scummy the complete lack of scum hunting is scummy, but voting for VE is completely understandable, while I did think he was town I wasn't without doubts. Like I've said above, better a VE lynch than a no-lynch, no one was going for Kita so I hopped on the bandwagon so that we didn't have a no-lynch. Fuck lynch for information. Fuck whether you can get a switch going to another person so we edefinitely get a lynch. AT NO POINT is it a good idea to vote for a guy to be lynched that you think is not scum, and most definitely not one you think it town. He said he had doubts that VE was town, but that doesn't mean you vote for him...that's like his thinking "well the best way to find out is to kill him!" And imo a no-lynch is so much better than lynching a townie. That's why I took my vote off. I really don't like that thinking. It's the same shit that acro and I suggested in Holy Roman, and that turned out balls. He says that he and BH came upon these posts at the same time but seeing how this was posted after BH died, it would have been fairly easy to say he found it while in fact just taking BH's thoughts and not really having to scum hunt. His next seeming analysis was of Kita On June 04 2012 09:41 Hassybaby wrote:Fs...erased my message 3 times now.... ET you picture was....actually quite accurate. I feel that kita has made some town posts: + Show Spoiler +On May 31 2012 01:51 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kita are you town?
I mean, obviously I have doubts...but I was unable to make a cohesive case against you last night when I tried. I think you're playing a pretty manipulative game, but not necessarily scummy after trying to build a case. I'm willing to work with you if you're town. I wanted to work together VE! I really did! But then you shunned logic and focused on your nonsense manipulation arguement to the point where you could no longer be included in our order! Don't blame us for your failings VE. I counted 17 instances in your filter where you found me suspicious, wanted me lynched, or suggested that I should be shot. My policy has not changed. The only change is that I have written a case against you and Meapak no longer suspects me. So tell me, what has changed that made you go from the point of stating that I "claimed scum in the thread" to being town. You say you cannot build a case against me, but that did not stop you from pushing for my death the previous cycle. What gives? Furthermore, why were you unwilling to push a case on me without Meapak's support? If I was truly your number one suspect, why does he have to push the lynch on me, rather than yourself? On June 02 2012 12:34 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 12:31 Probulous wrote:
The case is clear against you. You pushed a VE lynch and then let MZ railroad it through. You wre apparently in the thread all day but hardly contributed. Well it's not clear to me. I can't defend myself against something that isn't written. I pushed a VE lynch, which the majority of the players in the game found perfectly reasonable. Why does whether or not Meapak also posted a case have any impact on my alignment? Mine came first and my prefered lynch target was pushed through, what else was there to contribute? Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 12:31 Probulous wrote:
Then you blame VE for distracting you from zealos? Remind me to include my sarcasm tag next time. but has shown some scummy posting too: + Show Spoiler +On June 03 2012 01:29 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 20:13 Probulous wrote:
I have been over this but essentially it seemed like Kita was more concerned about a lyncher than scum. The lyncher would be taking a huge risk to push himself into the mayor role even more so if they do not know their target. Well I guess we disagree. I know I would have 100% gone all out to get elected mayor as a lyncher or assassin and I felt my plan increased our chances of getting an anti-town player into office. so I've come to a null. But when I come to a null, I put them as slightly more town as compared to people who I've barely seen. Personal thing. So I put kita as a bit closer to town as, say, austin or kenpachi. Thus me saying I like that. So I'm null right now, possibly leaning more town but that's purely gut feeling. Then again, my gut was why I took my vote off VE... But this read comes out null. From what I see Hassybaby just hasn't contributed all that much.
In the words of the immortal WBG
On June 04 2012 15:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
cool, you're not reading the thread so that affirms my suspicion you're scum.
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On June 05 2012 15:52 Probulous wrote:
I didn't want to do this but it seems that my hand is being forced. I am Dibs the detective. Here is my post in the thread. I checked Hassybaby last night and he returned Earth, I checked Kitaman the night before and he returned Not Earth. ...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336250¤tpage=122#2435
Unless you think I am a lying scum, or he was framed last night, you weren't reading the thread. The fact that you didn't even mention that he had a green check against him says you didn't read it.
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On June 06 2012 10:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
why does it say I was modkilled
e: in the op
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