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Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 14 2012 23:50 GMT
#406
wow, i did not see the votes were that low!!

im really sorry guys but i was out of my house today and could not get online, i was rushing to home and made that vote on myself to avoid getting modkilled, and this weekend was jus crazy.

Now, i just read some FoS on me, since i saw Shaopi's death i was thinking i was gonna be lynched today, im sure mafia was expecting my lynching to get more room of play, it wasnt that way but sadly another townie was lynched, i see some of you are saying you have "weak reads" on me, thats because i have not much to add besides my "reads", wich you can read on my filter, its pretty basic, yes Tofu, im very indecisive for the exact same reasons, that now, 2 townies are dead. Lists, "deep analysis" whit not much to base on (¿?), suddenly going super agressive on a player.

My suspicions on Anacletus RAISED big time, but he's not my main read tho. In case i get killed (but i doubt it after this) my FoS goes to austincc.

I feel he is actually playing whit the town's "mind", he (both times) just goes super agressive on someone and gets lynched right away, he's using his good redaction skills to throw analysis at the end of both days. I will quote nothing, im gonna stick whit this, its pretty obvious for me now.

About anacletus im beliving now he's just a bad player who got lucky two times. Watch his filter and see the big difference on his posting now.

##FoS austincc and Anacletus
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 14 2012 23:52 GMT
#407
i need to read more camly all the post to get a 3rd suspect. Btw, now you see, op just said there were 3 mafias. another thing i was suspicious of austin
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 15 2012 00:04 GMT
#409
are you suggeting that Bio and Tofu are higer in your list than austin?
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 16 2012 04:23 GMT
#428
uh? i came in to check the night post and i hasnt been made?

My top 3:

austincc
Anacletus
Dahdum/Mufaa/Hyaach maybe bio/crossfire ... lol, thats all of us but me i guess
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 16 2012 18:11 GMT
#433
i knew it!!! i was right since the beggining of the game.
does that bother you austin?
im not taking any chances now

##Vote austinmcc
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 04:54 GMT
#458
Im really sorry for no posting much, but real life has me covered. Im lurking not because i want, just because i cant post. i just came home and the first thing i do is check this thread.

now, anacletus. this is just getting ridiculous...even if you are a town, you are playing for the mafia team. Im convinced you are mafia, but still, theres someone over you on my list, i stand by my vote.

Austin: + Show Spoiler +
I have a couple reads taking some shape. My four main suspects so far are, Anacletus(for obvious reasons), Mufaa (being very passive, maybe i dont belive his works excuses), Shaopi (super active at first, then just defending his BIG list and a couple post naming Broodking) and Jailbraker (2 post, whitout much information,


you MISSED to quote THIS POST
You can see im not the only one suspecting of Mufaa, im just not buying that kind of "clean play", no time to play, a couple of long depth analysis post, go back to lurk and come whit another "great" analysis.


Till D2 i just fell I HAD no real reasons to start a case against someone. I gave my reason of why voting for myself at first on D1, i just had no read on anyone besides Anacletus, and i fell for your analysis about BKE. D2 is another thing, real life just happened.

and i gave you my top 2 suspects, im just indecisive over my 3rd vote!

My top 3:
+ Show Spoiler +

austincc
Anacletus

Dahdum/Mufaa/Hyaach maybe bio/crossfire

:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 05:13 GMT
#459
you dont see me posting LONG DEPTH ANALYSIS because we havent had much to work on, besides lame reads based of a couple posts, i want to base my suspicions on actions, how people behave and voting patterns. (i confess, i thought this game were the kind in wich you get subtle clues and histories for night actions.)

i know everyone "wants" to be the town leader or just enhance his investigation skill, but come one, we cant get the ball rolling just posting a couple lines and attacking someone at the end of the day.

So, Austin, are you a townie? tell me who is your top one read.

also, Dont start whit the big letters please, i see that as a sign of desperation.
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 05:14 GMT
#460
ebwop: i will try to log in tomorrow, i promise
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 20:44 GMT
#478
Dammit, i was writing a large post and power went out -.-. let me summarize

Hyaach: you can see on Mufaa's filter that he did not attacked me because i was the first telling i was suspicions on him. I belive he did this because he didnt wanted to attrack more attention to him form the people who had a FoS on him. I think this is a normal play by a mafia.

Besides this one argument i would like to know another reasons to suspect me (like austin strangely said, maybe to start some new bandwagon?)
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 20:46 GMT
#479
On May 18 2012 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
The ONLY reason I'm not entirely sold on Hyaach is his no-vote. When we already saw Jailbreaker get modkilled, a no-vote from a scummy player feels like way too large of a risk to take.


I think OP demostrated he wasnt going to kill anyone directly at the end of the day, he gave 1 warning, so i think he was feeling safe.
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 20:54 GMT
#481
On May 18 2012 05:51 austinmcc wrote:
I don't like those as "fluff" though. He's not really filling a filter to make himself look active, there's no intent on his part to do anything other than be modkilled. Gah.

Also, i SWORE there was some post from him about his location saying Singapore but him being in ... Germany? Did I entirely make that up? Anyone remember that from any player?



it was Shaopi
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 21:14 GMT
#488
1.) + Show Spoiler +
On May 18 2012 06:02 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 05:44 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
Dammit, i was writing a large post and power went out -.-. let me summarize

Hyaach: you can see on Mufaa's filter that he did not attacked me because i was the first telling i was suspicions on him. I belive he did this because he didnt wanted to attrack more attention to him form the people who had a FoS on him. I think this is a normal play by a mafia.

Besides this one argument i would like to know another reasons to suspect me (like austin strangely said, maybe to start some new bandwagon?)


The reason we are calling you out is because of your post count/content. Lately it seems like there are 3 people who pop on to post their required 1 vote a day then log off and not contribute. Can you see how that would come across as suspicious?

Also, I would like to know what prompted this from you
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 17 2012 03:11 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
i knew it!!! i was right since the beggining of the game.
does that bother you austin?
im not taking any chances now

##Vote austinmcc



When you didn't have him on your list at the beginning of the game.
Here is your first list of scumreads:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 12 2012 00:21 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
I have a couple reads taking some shape. My four main suspects so far are, Anacletus(for obvious reasons), Mufaa (being very passive, maybe i dont belive his works excuses), Shaopi (super active at first, then just defending his BIG list and a couple post naming Broodking) and Jailbraker (2 post, whitout much information,
Show nested quote +
I'm going to withhold my vote until later when everyone has a chance to post
everybody already posted and im still waiting, and
Show nested quote +

posting this now, going to formulate a new post based on BroodKingEXE, ShiaoPi, Hyaach (page 7 to 8)
and being under the radar in general)

Im gonna wait a couple more hours to cast my vote, i want to see if everyone goes active and chatty and the end of the day



What are you trying to say here? Why is there a blatant contradiction? Why, when looking through your filter, you seem to post that you suspect everyone in the game, but not offer any real information up?


You said it? AT THE BEGGINING of the game, please, dont quote if you are not gonna read all the filter and take it out of context, i clearly said:


My suspicions on Anacletus RAISED big time, but he's not my main read tho. In case i get killed (but i doubt it after this) my FoS goes to austincc.

I feel he is actually playing whit the town's "mind", he (both times) just goes super agressive on someone and gets lynched right away, he's using his good redaction skills to throw analysis at the end of both days. I will quote nothing, im gonna stick whit this, its pretty obvious for me now.

About anacletus im beliving now he's just a bad player who got lucky two times. Watch his filter and see the big difference on his posting now.

##FoS austincc and Anacletus


2.) + Show Spoiler +
Why, when looking through your filter, you seem to post that you suspect everyone in the game, but not offer any real information up?


My response, something i have alrewady posted too. :
you dont see me posting LONG DEPTH ANALYSIS because we havent had much to work on, besides lame reads based of a couple posts, i want to base my suspicions on actions, how people behave and voting patterns. (i confess, i thought this game were the kind in wich you get subtle clues and histories for night actions.)



ALL of us just hadn't much information, just now we have a few things to base our cases, as i just said, i was (hardly) writign a big post and the fxxing power went out.
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 21:15 GMT
#489
Not Voting: Darkfirex5, FirmTofu, BioSC

uh?
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 21:18 GMT
#491
On May 15 2012 08:07 Darkfirex5 wrote:
well guys gl hf i died (sadface) geting hanged is not a fun way to go D:


wtf?
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 21:28 GMT
#496
Sorry, i see i didnt specify that, i mean about Mufaa being a scum

1.- May 12
My four main suspects so far are, Anacletus(for obvious reasons), Mufaa (being very passive, maybe i dont belive his works excuses)...


2.- May 13
You can see im not the only one suspecting of Mufaa, im just not buying that kind of "clean play", no time to play, a couple of long depth analysis post, go back to lurk and come whit another "great" analysis.


3.- May 13 (again)
My list in case i die.

suspicious of mufaa, jailbreaker, crossfire because at the time they hadn't really posted


4.- May 15

My top 3:

austincc
Anacletus
Dahdum/Mufaa/Hyaach maybe bio/crossfire


Before that i said
i need to read more camly all the post to get a 3rd suspect.


I just didn't found something good to really focus on a 3rd person.

:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 21:30 GMT
#498
But i guess Mufaa's play worked, he never attacked me so i got distracted whit other targets. Something i feel a couple more players are doing right now
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 21:37 GMT
#500
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 18 2012 06:28 BioSC wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 18 2012 06:14 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
1.) + Show Spoiler +
On May 18 2012 06:02 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 05:44 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
Dammit, i was writing a large post and power went out -.-. let me summarize

Hyaach: you can see on Mufaa's filter that he did not attacked me because i was the first telling i was suspicions on him. I belive he did this because he didnt wanted to attrack more attention to him form the people who had a FoS on him. I think this is a normal play by a mafia.

Besides this one argument i would like to know another reasons to suspect me (like austin strangely said, maybe to start some new bandwagon?)


The reason we are calling you out is because of your post count/content. Lately it seems like there are 3 people who pop on to post their required 1 vote a day then log off and not contribute. Can you see how that would come across as suspicious?

Also, I would like to know what prompted this from you
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 17 2012 03:11 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
i knew it!!! i was right since the beggining of the game.
does that bother you austin?
im not taking any chances now

##Vote austinmcc



When you didn't have him on your list at the beginning of the game.
Here is your first list of scumreads:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 12 2012 00:21 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
I have a couple reads taking some shape. My four main suspects so far are, Anacletus(for obvious reasons), Mufaa (being very passive, maybe i dont belive his works excuses), Shaopi (super active at first, then just defending his BIG list and a couple post naming Broodking) and Jailbraker (2 post, whitout much information,
Show nested quote +
I'm going to withhold my vote until later when everyone has a chance to post
everybody already posted and im still waiting, and
Show nested quote +

posting this now, going to formulate a new post based on BroodKingEXE, ShiaoPi, Hyaach (page 7 to 8)
and being under the radar in general)

Im gonna wait a couple more hours to cast my vote, i want to see if everyone goes active and chatty and the end of the day



What are you trying to say here? Why is there a blatant contradiction? Why, when looking through your filter, you seem to post that you suspect everyone in the game, but not offer any real information up?


You said it? AT THE BEGGINING of the game, please, dont quote if you are not gonna read all the filter and take it out of context, i clearly said:


Show nested quote +
My suspicions on Anacletus RAISED big time, but he's not my main read tho. In case i get killed (but i doubt it after this) my FoS goes to austincc.

I feel he is actually playing whit the town's "mind", he (both times) just goes super agressive on someone and gets lynched right away, he's using his good redaction skills to throw analysis at the end of both days. I will quote nothing, im gonna stick whit this, its pretty obvious for me now.

About anacletus im beliving now he's just a bad player who got lucky two times. Watch his filter and see the big difference on his posting now.

##FoS austincc and Anacletus


2.) + Show Spoiler +
Why, when looking through your filter, you seem to post that you suspect everyone in the game, but not offer any real information up?


My response, something i have alrewady posted too. :
Show nested quote +
you dont see me posting LONG DEPTH ANALYSIS because we havent had much to work on, besides lame reads based of a couple posts, i want to base my suspicions on actions, how people behave and voting patterns. (i confess, i thought this game were the kind in wich you get subtle clues and histories for night actions.)



ALL of us just hadn't much information, just now we have a few things to base our cases, as i just said, i was (hardly) writign a big post and the fxxing power went out.


Unforgiven's post.

I'm taking nothing out of context. I'm reading what YOU said, which is that:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 03:11 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
i knew it!!! i was right since the beggining of the game.
does that bother you austin?
im not taking any chances now

##Vote austinmcc


Now, I looked through your filter, trust me. I found both of those posts. The post YOU linked/quoted:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707&currentpage=21#406
I found that on page 21 of the thread. Want to know where I found the quote I did?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707&currentpage=10#199
Page 10.

You tell me what post would be closer to "The beginning of the game"

My question still stands. What are you trying to say with that quote, and WHY is there a contradiction?

To your second half of your post: We need reads from you. You've offered next to nothing. Making reads and sharing them with town is how the town figures out who is/isn't scum. Care to make a read on someone? Why is Austin your #1, when "At the beginning of the game" you didn't suspect him, contradicting your claim to the post you made earlier in the day?


uh? i dont think im really understanding what you are saying. I'll try and make it clear... at first i haven't suspected austin because (as i have said a LOT of times) we hadn't much to work on. After 2 days and seeing the result of austin "Leader role" i grow suspicious of him since page 10-11/whatever? Thats the idea if the game right? try to READ people, not sticking whit your first and sole list

as you can read at page 21
I feel he is actually playing whit the town's "mind", he (both times) just goes super agressive on someone and gets lynched right away, he's using his good redaction skills to throw analysis at the end of both days. I will quote nothing, im gonna stick whit this, its pretty obvious for me now.

About anacletus im beliving now he's just a bad player who got lucky two times. Watch his filter and see the big difference on his posting now.

##FoS austincc and Anacletus
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 21:39 GMT
#501
On May 18 2012 06:36 austinmcc wrote:
I'm content dropping that post and this back and forth because I don't think it really gets us any useful information.

So instead, are you still fully happy with voting me? Regardless of whether you are or aren't, are there other targets you'd be willing to vote for?


The thing about people lurking is REALLY bothering me, mafias are the only oenss benefiting from this.
Hyaach is one, what if we vote for him and he turns townie? it just adds a 3 dead bodie to your list?
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 21:40 GMT
#502
BioSC: in case you are refering to this sole line
On May 17 2012 03:11 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
i knew it!!! i was right since the beggining of the game.
does that bother you austin?

im not taking any chances now

##Vote austinmcc


i meant about the GOLDEN night kill from our vigilante, i just got exited i guess lol
:)
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 17 2012 21:44 GMT
#505
On May 18 2012 06:36 austinmcc wrote:
I'm content dropping that post and this back and forth because I don't think it really gets us any useful information.

So instead, are you still fully happy with voting me? Regardless of whether you are or aren't, are there other targets you'd be willing to vote for?


Thats the thing whit you guys, you cant spot scum whit one sole line, you should look to the whole style of play. Of course you dont have reads on me, im just a townie trying to survive and giving some input when i can, when i feel something is scummy i say it. Thats why "My first list" was just a sketch-up. You can keep pushing your first thought if you something else is wrong/looks scummier
:)
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