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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 01 2012 19:54 GMT
#460
ah, storm mafia, where wherebugsgo just randomly pointed at me 10 minutes before deadline and then i died. yea i was on top of my game back then.

fun fact: this is the 16th game in a row that i have been town. last game i was scum was in XLVII when i requested it. not counting requests (requested town in election mafia too i think) then i'm on like a 20 game town streak. beat that. always town never not town QED.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 01 2012 20:09 GMT
#464
honestly, i don't expect to live through the day. hopefully i'll have the energy to put more effort into this game tomorrow 'cause it's quite disappointing what i've done so far.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 02 2012 09:19 GMT
#614
poor VE

i made some illegal votes because i had like no idea what i was doing, showed up for like 20 mins and i asked who i should vote and only one person PMd me with advice that i just followed and then i spread my votes across players i thought were town and then i went to bed. i honestly had no idea that some of them were in minority so you should just treat me as if my intentions were to save those five (cause that was what my intentions were).

also, the illegal vote for sandroba was actually for syllogism, i can ask protactinium if they will fix that if you don't believe me. and thanks to radfield for saving my ass.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 02 2012 10:46 GMT
#619
On May 02 2012 19:28 Palmar wrote:
Can anyone explain the illegal votes?

uh i just did

i voted
1 palmar
1 syllogism
1 wiggles
1 radfield
1 gonzaw

and three of those votes were for people in the minority, not eligible for votes. illegal votes. it says that i voted for sandroba but i actually voted for syllogism.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#656
@BloodyC0bbler Who exactly are these "2 confortable red reads"?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 02 2012 22:21 GMT
#662
On May 03 2012 07:11 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 05:45 Foolishness wrote:
Ace
Palmar
Foolishnesss
Syllogism
Bloodyc0bbler
wherebugsgo
Katina
Gonzaw

There are at least 2 mafia in that list. I have a lot of town reads of people in that list and sadly you are one of the leftovers.


I could post the playerlist of the game and come to the same conclusion. Bullshit post with no reasoning on to how you got this. Scum.

it's the minority list kiddo

are you even reading the game?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 02 2012 22:35 GMT
#665
On May 03 2012 07:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 07:21 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:11 Ace wrote:
On May 03 2012 05:45 Foolishness wrote:
Ace
Palmar
Foolishnesss
Syllogism
Bloodyc0bbler
wherebugsgo
Katina
Gonzaw

There are at least 2 mafia in that list. I have a lot of town reads of people in that list and sadly you are one of the leftovers.


I could post the playerlist of the game and come to the same conclusion. Bullshit post with no reasoning on to how you got this. Scum.

it's the minority list kiddo

are you even reading the game?


It doesn't change the point of the post -_-.

well at the very least it changes the part where he says "with no reasoning on to how you got this."

also, i wanted to call ace "kiddo" and i think it was funny because i PM'd foolishness the same question and because i didn't read half the thread yet. i'm at page 15 with and then i read again from nightpost and then i read a few filters.

i think it's pretty rude of you that you're ignoring my PM. could you please tell me who your two comfortable scum reads are? you are even alluding that you already said it in the thread, why wont you repeat it to me when i'm asking you so nicely?

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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 03 2012 01:27 GMT
#683
On May 03 2012 10:17 Ace wrote:
good post. Quality assured. Moving you to my most likely town list after that one.

this seems rather hypocritical considering that

On May 01 2012 03:45 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 03:38 syllogism wrote:
On May 01 2012 03:37 Ace wrote:
On April 30 2012 23:30 syllogism wrote:
On April 30 2012 23:26 chaoser wrote:
On April 30 2012 23:13 syllogism wrote:
I can't say I'm even slightly surprised to see you on the wrong side of a decent plan.

This is off-topic, but perhaps you should stop joining games that have non-standard setups if you have no interest in actually figuring out the setup and utilizing it in the way that best benefits the town. That's the whole point.


How is it a decent plan again??? The plan is literally "let palmar control round one"

Because he seems townie enough and the alternative is basically random chance or worse. We aren't going to be able to democratically determine who should be in the minority and who shouldn't in 24 hours, especially on day 1.


[image loading]

Hello ace are you going to do anything useful at all this game?


no


On May 01 2012 06:52 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 06:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Look, I'm not getting into a pissing contest with either of you guys. I have a read. You think it's dumb. THANKS! LET'S MOVE ON BRO!


I've been drinking beer all day.

Let's do this.


On May 01 2012 06:57 Ace wrote:
Aye aye Captain!

*salutes*



On May 01 2012 08:24 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 08:19 gonzaw wrote:
On May 01 2012 08:16 Ace wrote:
K so the plan just needs a majority of Town to give up their individual brilliance, sheep a Yes/No vote and form a new pool of suspects: Except the method of creating this pool should be determined by 1 player.

Sounds awesome. Where do I sign up?


No, I said that the method for creating this pool should be done by the whole town with the Voting system I specified. Can you at least read my posts?

Also, I want you guys opinion on chaoser and Cephiro, we need to find scum too, not just talk about plans.


I haven't even read my role PM, what makes you think I'm gonna give your posts any attention?

[image loading]


On May 01 2012 08:47 Ace wrote:
I am actively committed to finding booze. Type ##DRINK! if you are with me!



On May 01 2012 08:51 Ace wrote:
I don't need to stand up for myself though - people know I'm invincible to being lynched. #FinalBossStatus


On May 01 2012 11:22 Ace wrote:
lmao


On May 02 2012 10:55 Ace wrote:
Very pleased the way this game is going.


On May 03 2012 04:17 Ace wrote:
*yawn*

People are still alive in this game? What's taking so long to kill everyone?


On May 03 2012 04:27 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 04:22 Foolishness wrote:
On May 03 2012 04:17 Ace wrote:
*yawn*

People are still alive in this game? What's taking so long to kill everyone?

You check your role PM yet?


why? are you my scum buddy?


and i've been pretty conservative with your quotes here.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#685
make of it what you will
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 03 2012 20:22 GMT
#756
hey i have some pms with radfield and now that he's gone i thought i'd just post them 'cause even sloosh seems confused

i also asked radfield why he voted for me but he didn't answer (before he /out'ed) so i'm not gonna post those

+ Show Spoiler [pms with RADFIELD] +
Original Message From Radfield:
I don't know what you signed up for either, so lets figure it out

I'm just thinking that given the unwillingness of town right to work together right now, I see no reason for them to be willing to co-operate in round 2. So we need to gather up townies who are willing to work together, and use our votes in an intelligent fashion.

If everyone is just helter skelter voting in round 2, mafia have already won.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From prplhz:
dunno what i apparently just signed up to but if it makes sense then i'm probably going to like it!

Original Message From Radfield:
Fuck ya!

Lets be friends and have our own circle of co-operation We can add in other people who are like minded, and use our voting block to get things done in a pro-town fashion.

Original Message From prplhz:
yea!


subject was "you know i am" and it was in response to his post where he asked people to pm him if they wanted to cooperate.


also i
+ Show Spoiler [stumbled upon this] +

On May 01 2012 09:24 chaoser wrote:
here, let me ask a question to you radfield. What's the difference between people in the minority and the majority? Minority can't die right? Why would you take away a threat to a player like that? It makes no sense.

If you have a system in place to make it so that round 2 proceeds in an orderly manner then everything works out perfectly. I sent this to WBG already but I'll post it here as well.

for round two, it's based on whoever has the lowest points will be lynched right? so I was thinking of basing it on a gradient system. Most scummy, no points. We then have the rest pass points in a system following the player order.

so lets say it's like 5 people in the majority and 1 person in the minority. that's 25 points. lets say we think a is mafia. so the players are a, b, c, d, e, f

we think f is townie so he's in minority cause we need one. we move onto round 2.

b gives all his points to c, c gives all his points to d, d gives to e, e gives to b. If we all circle then a will have zero points. even if mafia was trying to save a, the two teams members would have to give 6 points total to save him. Because of the circle system, there's no way a can make back the deficient with his 5 points for both his teammates; one of his teammates will be adjacent to someone without 5 votes. That person is also mafia then.

f will be giving his votes, spread as evenly as possible, into the crowd of b, c, d, e. If things look wrong then f is suspicious.

WBG suggested to me that we do it so that everyone only cycles 4 votes and they give their one vote to whomever they want so that accountability would be an element and I agree. There's no way a would be able to get out of this situation unless his teammates out themselves.

and thought i'd comment even though it's old

if there's only 1 guy in minority then at least 2 of any scum team is in majority. say A is mafia but so is his mate, C. so A trades 4 votes to D so that they're not missing, C trades his 4 votes that was meant for D to A and now everybody has 4 votes, which is clearly not desirable. now people are going to die unless they get more votes and with a 1 person minority that's somewhat unlikely to happen. if chaoser had only suggested the 5 votes vote circle then we would have been even more screwed, everybody would die except the people F decided to trade and F himself.

in short, this strategy is broken/crazy isn't it? or did i miss something i'm bad with plans. it seems like it only appears to be working because he chose a rather small example, with 17 player majority and 1 player minority this strategy would be crazy. with 10/8 i'm a little unsure why it would be desirable to take so much accountability and power away from majority and give it to minority, when you are the same time don't want to try to implement a plan that would make it more likely that the minority was mostly town aligned. seems like a 10/8 split would kind of ruin the idea of circle trading since everybody would die if A has a scum buddy in the minority




is there any voting plan for round A today?

i'm catching up!
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 03 2012 20:49 GMT
#757
really, nobody want to talk about any of this?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 03 2012 22:08 GMT
#767
On May 04 2012 07:00 sandroba wrote:
It actually doesn't matter what I post in this tread. I made my suspicons clear and it doesn't matter how much I "explain" myself here. People are still dumb enough to think I'm mafia when evidence to the contrary is thrown in their faces. I'll do my best to get into minority so jubjubs + scum can't kill me. Then we proceed to kill sheth/mz/bc.

i don't get this

the case on you is that you are not contributing, and that this is in contrast to your meta

your excuse is a little odd!, while people would usually say "it's because i have too little spare time" you're actually saying "i've decided to do something else because i've got a lot of spare time"

might very well be true!... but i'm still a little worried as you might understand.

i thought it was weird that you'd vote for me as scum when i was looking to get no votes but that was before i read the thread and now it looks like a couple of people vouched to vote me before deadline so you already know i probably wasn't dying.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 03 2012 22:09 GMT
#768
On May 04 2012 06:50 Palmar wrote:
you guys, I'm just gonna announce right now that I'll be voting "No".

Do whatever you please with this information.

gonna put it on a tshirt and make billions
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 03 2012 23:24 GMT
#771
i'm saying that it doesn't work and the point of the 1 vote was accountability, so people were expected to vote for town reads. that could obviously leave a lot of townies in big trouble if the guy decided on as scum actually was scum and coordinated with his friends and this would leave absolutely no traces back to who helped him out.

i don't know what my conclusion is, i'm asking you if i'm seeing this right but nobody is answering so i guess it's irrelevant at best.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 04 2012 20:35 GMT
#880
hey i need someone to tell me who to vote or else i'm just going to do whatever i feel like (well, i still am but if you have some grand glorified plan that i need to know about then you need to tell me about it)
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 04 2012 21:23 GMT
#891
you're responsible for your own votes no matter what anybody said
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 05 2012 13:21 GMT
#929
i'm gonna 5 sandro next B
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 06 2012 13:14 GMT
#973
so what's going to happen today?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 07 2012 12:20 GMT
#1055
Word EchelonTee.

Alright, 5 guys in the majority we want to save so lets vote like this:

Cephiro
EchelonTee (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
Palmar (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
prplhz (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
sandroba
wherebugsgo (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
chaoser
gonzaw (2 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
Katina (1 gonzaw, 2 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
Liquid`Sheth
Meapak_Ziphh
Mr. Wiggles (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 2 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
slOosh (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 2 syllogism)
syllogism (2 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh)

Which gives us these votes in majority:

chaoser 0
gonzaw 9
Katina 9
Liquid`Sheth 0
Meapak_Ziphh 0
Mr. Wiggles 9
slOosh 9
syllogism 9

Unaccounted for: Cephiro, sandroba, chaoser, Liquid`Sheth, Meapak_Ziphh

The 2 person scum team can't save the scum in the minority and the three person scum team will have to seriously out themselves to do that. I mean it's just taking out 3 players and nothing else but I think it looks worth it.

Even if the two scum teams join up, they only have 25 votes and 3 people in the majority so they can't fuck everything up and what they can fuck up comes at a great cost of outing themselves. If some of these reads are wrong then any other townie, minority or majority, should just split his votes evenly over the greens in the majority.

This is really just a plan with the purpose of killing 3 people, there's probably not much else to get from it. So what about it?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 07 2012 13:26 GMT
#1058
On May 07 2012 22:05 Cephiro wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 07 2012 21:20 prplhz wrote:
Word EchelonTee.

Alright, 5 guys in the majority we want to save so lets vote like this:

Cephiro
EchelonTee (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
Palmar (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
prplhz (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
sandroba
wherebugsgo (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
chaoser
gonzaw (2 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
Katina (1 gonzaw, 2 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
Liquid`Sheth
Meapak_Ziphh
Mr. Wiggles (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 2 slOosh, 1 syllogism)
slOosh (1 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 2 syllogism)
syllogism (2 gonzaw, 1 Katina, 1 Mr. Wiggles, 1 slOosh)

Which gives us these votes in majority:

chaoser 0
gonzaw 9
Katina 9
Liquid`Sheth 0
Meapak_Ziphh 0
Mr. Wiggles 9
slOosh 9
syllogism 9

Unaccounted for: Cephiro, sandroba, chaoser, Liquid`Sheth, Meapak_Ziphh

The 2 person scum team can't save the scum in the minority and the three person scum team will have to seriously out themselves to do that. I mean it's just taking out 3 players and nothing else but I think it looks worth it.

Even if the two scum teams join up, they only have 25 votes and 3 people in the majority so they can't fuck everything up and what they can fuck up comes at a great cost of outing themselves. If some of these reads are wrong then any other townie, minority or majority, should just split his votes evenly over the greens in the majority.

This is really just a plan with the purpose of killing 3 people, there's probably not much else to get from it. So what about it?



Lol for suggesting a plan according to your reads, I'm very sure that you figured the remaining 5 scum out already. And you're cocky enough to go for a 3-kill at once? So naive.... You do realize how easy it would be even for me as a townie to mess that up just to piss you off, or if I felt you were scum?

I think you're painting a wrong picture of this situation when you say that it's according to "my reads", sounds like we're just doing whatever I feel like, which is not really true. I'm not claiming to have figured out the remaining 5 scum, I read the thread and listened to people and general consensus appears to be that those 5 are likely scum (and everybody else is likely town), so why not lynch them?

Yea, my plan actually accounts for how you, as a townie, might mess it up just to piss me off. You're in red. I don't really see why any townie would mess stuff up just to piss someone else off though. If you feel like somebody is scum or whatever then there are clearly better ways to go about than to just try to mess everything up.
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