Liar Game Mini Mafia - Page 13

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 30 2012 21:16 GMT

#241

Dis voting system.

It doesn't matter who's in the minority. Yeah, it's true a lot of people can die. We can sort that out during the down-sizing phase when we decide who we want to live. LOLOLOLOLOL

Anyone pushing an agenda that involves trying to control the minority phase looks super duper scummy to me right now ^^

Katina

United States454 Posts

April 30 2012 21:17 GMT

#242

Palmar thinks his whole "I'm the King, bow down and listen to me" plan is helping then that's pretty scummy or just bad town. It has brought nothing but a distraction to the thread. Everyone has been completely diverted by this plan of giving him all the power. All the time could have been spent looking for the Mafia instead of arguing that "Plan".

It would be ideal for the Mafia to cause this sort of distraction so they can easily hide under the attention that has been directed onto Palmar. In order to make a clear decision when vote time comes around the town needs to start building cases against possible Mafia and not getting sidetracked by such silliness.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

April 30 2012 21:17 GMT

#243

On May 01 2012 06:15 Cephiro wrote:

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I mean exactly what I said. I promise nothing to no-one as of that moment. Try and gain my trust if you want such to happen.

I've caught up on the thread.

I will not be agreeing with this whole "Palmar for King"-thingy.

I am already suspicious of a few people.

Well that is a completely pointless statement then but okay

Who are you suspicious of and why? Why did you find it important to point out you have suspicions and then didn't bother to name any?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 30 2012 21:18 GMT

#244

On May 01 2012 06:17 Katina wrote:
Palmar thinks his whole "I'm the King, bow down and listen to me" plan is helping then that's pretty scummy or just bad town. It has brought nothing but a distraction to the thread. Everyone has been completely diverted by this plan of giving him all the power. All the time could have been spent looking for the Mafia instead of arguing that "Plan".

It would be ideal for the Mafia to cause this sort of distraction so they can easily hide under the attention that has been directed onto Palmar. In order to make a clear decision when vote time comes around the town needs to start building cases against possible Mafia and not getting sidetracked by such silliness.

QFT - Time is a commod this game, the hosts say so!

Let's not waste anymore and find some scum! ^^

I found one! wherebugsgo

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

April 30 2012 21:18 GMT

#245

On May 01 2012 06:17 syllogism wrote:
Well that is a completely pointless statement then but okay

Who are you suspicious of and why? Why did you find it important to point out you have suspicions and then didn't bother to name any?

At the moment I am afraid to tell you I have no reason to share my reads with you.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

April 30 2012 21:21 GMT

#246

EBWOP: Oh, also anyone that has claimed to Palmar (or even more, syllo), should get their heads checked.

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

April 30 2012 21:21 GMT

#247

Um, the discussion it brought is pretty helpful? It started discussion? The plan itself sucks though and is very anti-town.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

April 30 2012 21:22 GMT

#248

I'm happy to tell you that I indeed have quite a few claims. I think some are mafia though

Mr. Wiggles

Canada5894 Posts

April 30 2012 21:22 GMT

#249

I'm voting yes. WIFOM about it all you want.

Also, why did this thread go to Hell in the last two pages? Palmar posted his list of reads after extensive discussion about his plan, and suddenly a whole bunch of people come running out of the woodwork to oppose it, and not in a calm and logical way, but instead in a sort of raving and foaming at the mouth way.

Liquid`Sheth

United States2095 Posts

April 30 2012 21:23 GMT

#250

Sandroba, why do you think I'm mafia? oo

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 30 2012 21:25 GMT

#251

This is a PM convo between myself and WBG. He lightly accuses one of my statements about "being on auto-pilot" to mean I'm excusing myself from scumhunting, but when I approach him in a manor that opens up the conversation to scumhunting he clams up. WBG is scum, and he should be one of our lynches today.
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Then we can't scumhunt can we?

Thanks for claiming scum to me Bugs, I thought that would be a lot harder. ^^

Die.

Original Message From wherebugsgo:
I have no reason to believe you are town and thus no real reason to tell you my scumreads.

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Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Just trying to get ANY of your reads. You talk about finding scum, but you're not very forthcoming with your reads...only answering specific questions I ask. While your answers generally satisfy what I'm asking, I'm not getting a read off you one way or the other because you're not giving me any extra information to work with. :S

It feels similar to your play in Storm, actually. It feels designed to leave me without a read of you, which is scummy to me.

When you wanna talk about who's scum, you hit me up bro.

Original Message From wherebugsgo:
Why would you come to the conclusion that I believe Palmar is town?

I don't have any sort of read on Palmar yet.

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
That's better.

Storm wasn't a PM game, but he was in PM contact with people. I thought it was a fair comparison, but I see what you're saying.

So should I assume that you think Palmar is town then? Syllo wouldn't be so aggressively defending Palmar's idea if he thought Palmar was scum and he's indicated that he thinks Palmar is "townie enough". What do you think?

Original Message From wherebugsgo:
1. storm wasn't a PM game and
2. syllo was bored out of his mind that game and wasn't even trying very hard.

Syllo and I had an hour+ argument in skype in PYP:I because we disagreed about sandro being town, as he was "with" the circle but used scummy reasons for it. Syllo argued that because sandro was with the circle we had no reason to believe he was scum and we disagreed heavily on it.

Sandro ended up being scum..

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
"crucify anyone against it" doesn't seem like standard syllo strategy. Take his play from Storm for example - you were able to convincingly manipulate his read of you via PMs, he didn't take a hardline stance for or against any plans that I recall.

Are you REALLY town or are you trying to pull a fast one on me? :S

Original Message From wherebugsgo:
Okay, fair enough.

Nothing really stands out to me for syllo, it's his standard PM game routine so far of "let's centralize town and then crucify anyone against it"

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
What I mean is I'm not trying to influence the minority round at all - I'm still observing and trying to find scum, but I'm not actually trying to influence anything in the game just yet.

What are your thoughts on syllogism?

Original Message From wherebugsgo:
How exactly would town ever control the minority round? It's nearly impossible to influence the answers such that no scum appear in the minority.

Anyway why are you on autopilot till then? Can't we find scum?

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Don't be an ass, that's just a greeting like "Sup?" or "How's it goin?"

I'm of the opinion that we're not going to be able to control this first minority round, so I'm just kinda on auto-pilot until the downsizing phase.

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*highfive*

One down! Let's kill wherebugsgo

Motbob is great

Wales28 Posts

April 30 2012 21:25 GMT

#252

On May 01 2012 06:22 syllogism wrote:
I'm happy to tell you that I indeed have quite a few claims. I think some are mafia though

If this is true then I fear for humanity.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 30 2012 21:26 GMT

#253

I can't wait till all these pretenders playing in PM land end up in the majority pool and have to beg for votes to save themselves from each other.

Katina

United States454 Posts

April 30 2012 21:28 GMT

#254

On May 01 2012 06:21 chaoser wrote:

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Um, the discussion it brought is pretty helpful? It started discussion? The plan itself sucks though and is very anti-town.

It started dicussion? Not really. It started confusion and the confusion started a "discussion" that wasted half the day.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 30 2012 21:30 GMT

#255

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Just trying to get ANY of your reads. You talk about finding scum, but you're not very forthcoming with your reads...only answering specific questions I ask

Not giving scum reads but answering specific questions asked of him = Scum.

Very frightening indeed.

Motbob is great

Wales28 Posts

April 30 2012 21:31 GMT

#256

On May 01 2012 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
This is a PM convo between myself and WBG. He lightly accuses one of my statements about "being on auto-pilot" to mean I'm excusing myself from scumhunting, but when I approach him in a manor that opens up the conversation to scumhunting he clams up. WBG is scum, and he should be one of our lynches today.
+ Show Spoiler +

Then we can't scumhunt can we?

Thanks for claiming scum to me Bugs, I thought that would be a lot harder. ^^

Die.

Original Message From wherebugsgo:
I have no reason to believe you are town and thus no real reason to tell you my scumreads.

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Original Message From wherebugsgo:
Why would you come to the conclusion that I believe Palmar is town?

I don't have any sort of read on Palmar yet.

*highfive*

One down! Let's kill wherebugsgo

hmm I actually don't think this is conclusive against WBG. It almost reads like you had premade your decision about his alignment and were just looking for something to justify that.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 30 2012 21:35 GMT

#257

That's not the case at all - I was trying to scumhunt with him as his first couple of posts seemed kinda townish, but he clammed up and like refused. That was very alarming to me indeed.

Anyway, it's conclusive enough for me. Stay tuned to the thread for further evidence of his guilt though ^^

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 30 2012 21:37 GMT

#258

His first few posts feel Townish to you.

He says he doesn't want to share his reads with you because he gets some scummy vibes from you even though he answered all the questions you asked him.

So you do a 180 and now feel he must be Scum. Even though he answered whatever you asked him. So it's not that you didn't like the answers to the questions you asked, but you don't like that he stopped cooperating with you even though he stated he got some Scum vibes from you.

K.

Motbob is great

Wales28 Posts

April 30 2012 21:42 GMT

#259

Look VE, I don't think you have very conclusive evidence yet. Perhaps WBG is being a little dodgy but remember it's still early in the game, if someone came prying like you idk if I'd answer too differently from WBG. The other problem I have is that it feels like you're manufacturing this case. While you may have been trying to scumhunt with him at first, it seemed like you were suspicious of him from the beginning and while it's fine to be suspicious of people I think you let this suspicion cloud your judgment.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 30 2012 21:46 GMT

#260

"Prying" huh? Trying to scumhunt is "prying".

Noted.

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