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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Even if I were scum, telling me that you think I am in PMs is pretty pointless and would only serve to weaken your own read if you were town. If you're town and expect to scumhunt this way don't get your hopes too high in regard to actually catching scum. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 01 2012 06:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Look, I'm not getting into a pissing contest with either of you guys. I have a read. You think it's dumb. THANKS! LET'S MOVE ON BRO! I've been drinking beer all day. Let's do this. | ||
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Motbob is great
Wales28 Posts
Ace you seem to have a handle on this situation, don't let Palmar run this into the ground. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
*salutes* | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I still new at this  | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On May 01 2012 06:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I wanna learn how to scumhunt without peoples' reads! X( I still new at this Thou shall empty your mind and look at each post objectively, find the hidden connections between them, or the lack of aforementioned. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Kalloh Kallay! If anyone wants to discuss their reads, my inbox is open. I'm done "prying" for my part. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh look, by golly it's like 4 or 5 hours til deadline and we've wasted all of Phase A talking about a plan that's not in effect and doesn't help us find scum! ^^ Kalloh Kallay! If anyone wants to discuss their reads, my inbox is open. I'm done "prying" for my part. Welcome to Day 1 of every new or involved setup. Go read any PYP game. None of this has been wasted. Palmar, I appreciate the vote of confidence, but I sent in my Yes a while ago. I also think it likely that the 'no's will end up in the majority. It's been stated several times that having relatively equal M/M ratios is optimal for town. This is due to town being able to both ensure that townies don't go unvoted, and that scummy players get lynched. It's far harder to control Round B if we have 17v1. I also agree with Foolishness' read on Chaoser. I think I'll just sheep people who have the time to actually play properly  On May 01 2012 06:17 Katina wrote: Palmar thinks his whole "I'm the King, bow down and listen to me" plan is helping then that's pretty scummy or just bad town. It has brought nothing but a distraction to the thread. Everyone has been completely diverted by this plan of giving him all the power. All the time could have been spent looking for the Mafia instead of arguing that "Plan". It would be ideal for the Mafia to cause this sort of distraction so they can easily hide under the attention that has been directed onto Palmar. In order to make a clear decision when vote time comes around the town needs to start building cases against possible Mafia and not getting sidetracked by such silliness. Please begin spending your time looking for mafia. Please start building cases against possible mafia. If not you then who? On May 01 2012 06:08 Ace wrote: chill dawg, remember him and Scumfield said that Palmar has an obscenely good Town radar. Game probably over by page 13 if we're lucky. I think I like wrongfield or badfield better. How come I have no motivation for Day 1 anymore? You've got the answers, so answer me that Ace. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On April 30 2012 13:11 Cephiro wrote: And how would that be useful? As nice as it would to believe people will vote for something co-operatively in a game of this size, it just won't happen. If you somehow manage to gather and confirm all townies, and ensure they vote in a certain pattern, that still enables scum to do whatever they want, and even if they outed themselves, they may still be able to get in the minority constantly. It's just not gonna work in a game where votes are hidden until the results. (Where it will be obvious who voted for what) I'm not expecting to see gamebreaking strategies (especially ensuring as making them work flawlessly is quite hard), so please concentrate on finding the scum instead of trying to come up with some epic plan. And don't get greedy. If we find someone that we are sure to be scum, then do everything possible to get that person killed or lynched. If we try to get greedy and be smartasses and try to lynch three scum at once, it'll most likely bite ourselves in the ass. Regarding PMs... anyone can PM me and say/ask anything they want, but I promise nothing to no-one as of yet. Why are you writing things that are blatantly obvious? Of course if we find scum we will do what we can to lynch them. Of course you don't have to promise anything to anyone. I haven't played with you before, but so far it seems like your writing things just for the sake of writing them. Also, to everyone talking about how scum will just blatantly hop onto the minority side of any plan, that's silly. The whole goal of the game is to figure out who the mafia are. Honestly, killing mafia is not going to be a problem. Imagine this, Protactinum publicly proclaims all the members of one team. Do you honestly think we'll struggle to get them killed? It might not happen all at once, but they'd be dead pretty quick. Likewise, if we all co-operate and form a list of likely townies, then put said townies on into the minority, scum are unable to just cross the line en masse. Townies should have no fear of getting lynched. Even if you are worried about being on the chopping block, it's far better for the town as a whole for you to just vote with the majority and try to defend yourself instead of jumping to the minority. Jumping ship only ensures that you will waste our vig shots. Shots we will undoubtedly need. We're a team, lets act like one. The problem with having so many experienced players is that everyone wants to measure their penis, and no one wants to back down. I guarantee this game is designed to punish poor play. Over-reliance on voting schemes, mass claims, comparing role names, role=alignment, low activity, refusal to co-operate, etc. That doesn't mean none of those things can be helpful, we simply need to keep it in mind. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
At best I'm going to bounce around reads with a few people in private, but my time is too limited for much else. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Also: Can we get a filter list? It's almost impossible to search the filter of some players | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
I mostly comes down to cooperation. Townies should cooperate, agree with the plan and sacrifice their vote and opportunity to be in the minority for the greater good. Just like in the manga people need to sacrifice their opportunity to earn profits to work together and save everybody. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
How you should vote will be determined after the "virtual deadline" is set, I'll explain more thoroughly in that post I'm making | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Ace is doing his usual and very useless "you can't have any reads on day1" thing. Then he's like "I'm just going to be an asshole no matter what you do" which is equally useless. All Ace can do day1 is yell at other people for having bad reads. I kinda like Mr. Wiggles but I don't exactly know why. I also like Foolishness and Palmogisfield. I don't have any scum reads. I feel like you're all speaking in russian. I'm looking forward to round B because then I'll have five votes like the rest of you that I can use however I want. Dunno. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On May 01 2012 07:41 Radfield wrote: Also, to everyone talking about how scum will just blatantly hop onto the minority side of any plan, that's silly. The whole goal of the game is to figure out who the mafia are. Honestly, killing mafia is not going to be a problem. Imagine this, Protactinum publicly proclaims all the members of one team. Do you honestly think we'll struggle to get them killed? It might not happen all at once, but they'd be dead pretty quick. Likewise, if we all co-operate and form a list of likely townies, then put said townies on into the minority, scum are unable to just cross the line en masse. Townies should have no fear of getting lynched. Even if you are worried about being on the chopping block, it's far better for the town as a whole for you to just vote with the majority and try to defend yourself instead of jumping to the minority. Jumping ship only ensures that you will waste our vig shots. Shots we will undoubtedly need. We're a team, lets act like one. The problem with having so many experienced players is that everyone wants to measure their penis, and no one wants to back down. I guarantee this game is designed to punish poor play. Over-reliance on voting schemes, mass claims, comparing role names, role=alignment, low activity, refusal to co-operate, etc. That doesn't mean none of those things can be helpful, we simply need to keep it in mind. You should never take killing mafia for granted. The more mistakes you make, the harder it becomes. That's why I wrote what I wrote as a reminder, I've seen such happen way too many times. On May 01 2012 07:41 Radfield wrote: Why are you writing things that are blatantly obvious? Could be said about your post also. Fact is, what someone considers obvious may not be obvious to everyone. It's better to bring it out and make sure everyone gets it, rather than assume everyone knows. | ||
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